THANK YOU JOHAN DE KONING
This will explain how to make your computer fast enough to run ubuntu (a form of Linux). And how to download the android package. This will take up 7 to 8 gb of space.
THIS IS FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT UBUNTU (NOT VIRTUAL AND NOT DUAL IF DON'T WANT TO BE)*This could delete windows if you didn't partion your hard drive right
NOT FOR NOOBS BE WARNED
Go to the ubunutu download page given below and download the 700 mb iso image file. Iso is a cd formatted file u can open it with a zip appclation(but don't). When it is finished I recommand getting a dvd but maybe it could fit on a cd.(*Note that you don't have to burn on to cd u could extract to decktop and run the setup manually.) Burn the ubuntu on to the cd/dvd and than restart your computer with the cd/dvd still in the computer's cd/dvd rom. When the computer goes to a blink screen and asks you if want to boot from cd/dvd press enter. And than from here on follow the instractions.
STEP 1 (CLEAN COMPUTER)
*Note: for performance do this in safe mode.
First we need to make your computer fast as possible. Create a backup just in case you want to back up something. So go to download.com and download Advanced SystemCare Free(7 -10 mb). After you have installed click on the CARE! button to get started. This could depend on your computer usage space the bigger the longer it will take. It will wipe all internet data. If you don't want that to happen just go to maintain windows and click on the Privacy Sweep box to uncheck. Than scan. Than go to utilities and run all the following Disk Check, Disk Cleaner and install Smart defrag. After installing Smart Defrag click start on all the options in this order defrag only, deep optimize, and fast optimize.
STEP 2: RESTART COMPUTER
After restarting go back to System FreeCare and run game booster(install). Click game mode and a pop up will show. Click the button on the left side of the box. Check all boxes but not explore. than go to game mode.
STEP 3: Download virtualbox(68 mb download)
You could have a dual if you want. The download page is http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads. Download the correct version. (windows= *VirtualBox 3.0.4 for Windows hosts x86/amd64). than install it.
Install Virtualbox(takes from 5-30 minutes depending on your computer)
Next>accept>next>next>next>yes>install>continue anyway(i got this like 6 times so...)>finish(i think)>cancel>new>Next>name=ubuntu>next>Next>Next>Next>Next>Next>
when u get to the virtual size thing move the bar to 7.5 gb (min). this should be a little extra space. Next>Finish>Next>
STEP 4: Download UBUNTU(700 mb)
DOWNLOAD PAGE http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download and choose the ftp. than begin downloading. After download save the file to desktop and DON'T DO ANYTHING. go to the VirtualBox and click CD/DVD-ROM. Check the box and also ISO IMAGE FILE after that and mount to that image on the desktop. THAN OK. press CTRL+ALT+DELETE. go to processes and end explore(for speed). Click Start.
PART 2
OK. START by running VirtualBox with the mount on the ISO ubuntu and than click start on the top right hand side. press enter to leave language than enter again to install ubuntu. on the top of the bar it may pause alot so go to machine and resume it. if it total doesn't work just exit and power down and reboot with explore.exe gone and also no windows up and running. and than just follow the instructions to installing it about 1 hour to 2 hours depending. Make sure that it is completely partation to the virtual drive. After like forever when u reach the main desktop go to app... terminal and make sure u knoe your password. Than type
The rest is here http://www.johandekoning.nl/index.php/2009/06/07/building-android-15-build-environment/. How to bulid the enviroment and getting the libs and other tools together. After all that run.
Sudo apt-get autoremove
Sudo apt-get autoclean
Than on Saturday and Sunday I will teach u how to make a rom.
There is a kernel problem with johan's idea I think I know what it is
Was going to wipe one of my computers anyway. This gives me a reason to stop procrastinating! Will give this a try. Waiting for part 2!
I know I will never get into rom making but it is very interesting to read about.
P.S. Make the paypal link a bit bigger, I can't read it
I already turned my back on windows so I run ubuntu so this is useless to me but I am waiting for part 2 so I can learn more about this, prob won't ever use it but it is good to knowhow to
Already running Mint in VB .. runs just great. I am interested in reading the ROM part though
WTF? Why do you need to do all of this crap on your computer to run Ubuntu? If I was going to dual boot with windows I would not use the stuff you listed. Why not just explain how to use it create a ROM and let people figure out how to get Ubuntu on their computer.
this seems more like spam, an advertisement for those products he listed. Any sensible person would not use virtual box to build android from source (problems you run into with the jvm running out of memory).
Besides, Johan already has a well posted blog about this:
http://www.johandekoning.nl/index.php/2009/06/07/building-android-15-build-environment/
but I would really recomend installing ubuntu through the windows installer (wubi) if you're a linux virgin, that way you don't risk anything in your windows partition, it's faster than virtualization, and eventually you'll drop windows once you learn how to use ubuntu at least.
Really, I think this is spam though.
jubeh said:
Really, I think this is spam though.
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I think you are right. I don't know if "part 2" is ever going to come, or if it will just be a copy/paste from the link you posted.
Wasn't it simpler to just install ubuntu as second os? If someone wants to dedicate himself to developement it would be better to have ubuntu not virtualized
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this seems more like spam, an advertisement for those products he listed. Any sensible person would not use virtual box to build android from source (problems you run into with the jvm running out of memory).
Besides, Johan already has a well posted blog about this:
http://www.johandekoning.nl/index.php/2009/06/07/building-android-15-build-environment/
but I would really recomend installing ubuntu through the windows installer (wubi) if you're a linux virgin, that way you don't risk anything in your windows partition, it's faster than virtualization, and eventually you'll drop windows once you learn how to use ubuntu at least.
Really, I think this is spam though.
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I am not sure if you have ever tried virtual box but it is quite responsive and seems too run better than wubi. I am sure it depends somewhat on the system a person is running, but with a quad and 4 gb of ram VB runs very well. While I have a dual boot with Ubuntu , I have still found it easier to do my android stuff in it's own virtual space. With a dedicated 75gb I can use it seamlessly with my Windows 7 install. You should try it it really works very well and I have had no memory problems at all and have manged to build from source without any difficulty whatsoever. My Ubuntu install stays clean and I can mess with my virtual Mint install as much as I like without ever affecting my Ubuntu partition.
Personally I have Ubuntu on a Prtition of My portable drive,which means I can boot it up anywhere (so long as the computer can USB Boot). I shall certainly be following the original info. The same guy has posted many good Android Articles.
As for the OP here, he only really needed to post a link, not copy the whole thing.
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I am not sure if you have ever tried virtual box but it is quite responsive and seems too run better than wubi. I am sure it depends somewhat on the system a person is running, but with a quad and 4 gb of ram VB runs very well. While I have a dual boot with Ubuntu , I have still found it easier to do my android stuff in it's own virtual space. With a dedicated 75gb I can use it seamlessly with my Windows 7 install. You should try it it really works very well and I have had no memory problems at all and have manged to build from source without any difficulty whatsoever. My Ubuntu install stays clean and I can mess with my virtual Mint install as much as I like without ever affecting my Ubuntu partition.
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Almost everything runs well with quad processors and 4GB of RAM. Oracle 10g runs well with that hardware. So that isn't saying much.
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Oracle 10g runs well with that hardware. So that isn't saying much.
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ha! this bit gave me a chuckle.
I freaking hate Oracle. I run a bunch of dbms' & 95% of my headaches come from them.
I prefer dual-booting, personally. I just started messing around with ubuntu (about 6 months maybe) and i love it, after using ubuntu i fully hate Windows Vista and all its sparkly, money-making horse-****. So now i have ubuntu and Windows both running smoothly on a compaq presario f700 laptop, and the only thing i really use my windows partition (i know thats not the correct technical terminology, just pay attention to the story) for is, well, basically just theming, and media storage. I use photoshop, and havent bothered to try using GIMP very much yet, and so i do all my theming (which isnt much really) in windows, which is where i also already have the autosign tools and draw9patch and other such things setup...and then all my music, pictures, whatever are all on my fat32 partition, and can all be accessed from either OS. aside from that, my computer boots into ubuntu by default. so if im using my computer, im doin it the ubuntu way, unless i NEED to use windows, for something like photoshop, and thats about it.
So long story short...(like its not already to late for that) im eagerly awaiting part 2 cuz ive been hitting some roadblocks...hope it helps!
-BMFC
mohsinkhan47 said:
Please donate and help me get a good ubuntu desktop from the case to the motherboard. Please donat.
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I'll get right on that. Is $500 enough?
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Almost everything runs well with quad processors and 4GB of RAM. Oracle 10g runs well with that hardware. So that isn't saying much.
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Ok Granted u are right about that and so it should.
But assuming I am not the only person with a quad and 4 gb of RAM, this may work just as well for others too. As as a relative newb with Linux, I can honestly say I have killed a few installations of Linux on my Hard Drive by breaking packages and other things that prevent it from working properly. Sometimes it is easier for me to reinstall the whole thing because I lack the knowledge to fix it.... in comes Virtual Box. I can totally screw it up as much as I want and my Linux partition on my hd remains intact with no errors.
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I am not sure if you have ever tried virtual box but it is quite responsive and seems too run better than wubi. I am sure it depends somewhat on the system a person is running, but with a quad and 4 gb of ram VB runs very well. While I have a dual boot with Ubuntu , I have still found it easier to do my android stuff in it's own virtual space. With a dedicated 75gb I can use it seamlessly with my Windows 7 install. You should try it it really works very well and I have had no memory problems at all and have manged to build from source without any difficulty whatsoever. My Ubuntu install stays clean and I can mess with my virtual Mint install as much as I like without ever affecting my Ubuntu partition.
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I do have virtualbox running on my linux box, my laptop's ubuntu side, and my laptop's win7 side. I also have a third computer that I have loaded with windows vista for the computer illiterate people in my house and a tiny dell mini 9 that I bought god-knows-why.
My main computer (since I can take it anywhere and my linux box i use mainly as a file server) is a gateway fx p-7805u. I won't have you google the specs, it's a 2.27 Ghz core 2 duo, 4 gb of ram, 320 gb main hard drive (plus I tossed a slow 5400 rpm 500 gb hd for files), so yeah, I can run virtualbox, but I mainly use it for running micro-xp on it for whatever else I need it.
I've used vb before like i said even configuring the vm with dual core support but there's no way it's as fast as a native system.
Anyway, wubi is not virtualization. It's an actual, loop-mounted image file/partition that fully utilizes the hardware it runs on. It's exactly the same as running a dual-booted system through partitioning, the only difference is that the ubuntu filesystem exists inside your ntfs partition rather than it's own partition, this has the effect of having a very slight hit on disk performance (much less than virtualization though), but everything else is running natively, even drivers. It's entirely safe for your host file-system and can be removed leaving no residual files anywhere on your system. It's also easy to share files with your host computer (with vb you have to set up a network share and then edit your /etc/init.d/rc.local to have it automount on startup, with wubi, it automatically creates a link to the host filesystem located at /host).
I've had to leave my computer building on vb overnight and then I come back to find that the process is stuck at some dex or java compilation, with an actual running system, this doesn't happen.
Give it a try, it costs nothing.
mohsinkhan47 said:
U guys are evil
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Wow thanks! I really appreciate your work and considering donating to you. Since you make your paypal link so large, it really inspires me to donate.
Thanks again!
edit: (hope this post isn't considered to be spam like the original post is)
Better if you do
sudo apt-get autoremove --purge
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I do have virtualbox running on my linux box, my laptop's ubuntu side, and my laptop's win7 side. I also have a third computer that I have loaded with windows vista for the computer illiterate people in my house and a tiny dell mini 9 that I bought god-knows-why.
My main computer (since I can take it anywhere and my linux box i use mainly as a file server) is a gateway fx p-7805u. I won't have you google the specs, it's a 2.27 Ghz core 2 duo, 4 gb of ram, 320 gb main hard drive (plus I tossed a slow 5400 rpm 500 gb hd for files), so yeah, I can run virtualbox, but I mainly use it for running micro-xp on it for whatever else I need it.
I've used vb before like i said even configuring the vm with dual core support but there's no way it's as fast as a native system.
Anyway, wubi is not virtualization. It's an actual, loop-mounted image file/partition that fully utilizes the hardware it runs on. It's exactly the same as running a dual-booted system through partitioning, the only difference is that the ubuntu filesystem exists inside your ntfs partition rather than it's own partition, this has the effect of having a very slight hit on disk performance (much less than virtualization though), but everything else is running natively, even drivers. It's entirely safe for your host file-system and can be removed leaving no residual files anywhere on your system. It's also easy to share files with your host computer (with vb you have to set up a network share and then edit your /etc/init.d/rc.local to have it automount on startup, with wubi, it automatically creates a link to the host filesystem located at /host).
I've had to leave my computer building on vb overnight and then I come back to find that the process is stuck at some dex or java compilation, with an actual running system, this doesn't happen.
Give it a try, it costs nothing.
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Thanks for the info... now I know you have a lot of computers in your household But seriously, I am not trying to put anyone's opinion down here... so there is no need to be quite so elitist I am just pointing out my own experiences with Virtual Box which have been very good. If it doesn't work for you... fine.. but you are suggesting to everyone else that it doesn't work properly or well and I can quite definitively say that yes it does.. and very well too.
I would imagine that your system from what you say may not be powerful enough to handle it as well... so maybe a quad is needed to make it run the way it does for me, I don't profess to know the answer... only that it works great on my system.. it is not slow.... does not have errors and compiles Android source quite easily using Mint Linux (another Debian based Linux Distro for those that are unfamiliar with it)
I don't think I ever mentioned it was as fast as a native system... all I am saying is that it runs well and for a noob it can be run without messing anything else up as it runs in it's own little environment.
i love ubuntu on my laptop but cant play with it much cuz im in photoshop most the time so am mostly in windows. i was wondering how it was on the gtab? and how to apps work with it? i assume no android market? can anyone give me some pros and cons? and how does it work with the touch screen?
Following work done on the vega, I've gotten ubuntu 11.04 running. You have to use the 2.6.32 kernel and touchscreen works. I'm trying to sort out why wireless and sound do not work. The vega folks have made much more headway at this time but they have several linux distros running on the tab.
it sounds very promising, but until the wifi is working, i can't see this as a viable os. What do you think? The lack of connectivity makes the device a stand alone - right?
I have added the driver for a usb ethernet dongle and it works. As time allows, I'm trying to sort out the wireless issue.
Considering how useful ubuntu is, if you can get everything to work with ubuntu, I'm putting ubuntu on as soon as I get the gtab.
I'm not really sure what the point of putting Ubuntu on the GTab is. I suppose there are linux apps that just aren't available in Android, but most of those are the heavy hitting apps that you'd never want to run on the GTab anyway. just trying to figure out what the point is.
There are things you can do with a linux load that android cannot do. And being a risc processor, it can do more in less memory than on a x86 processor. I want to be able to run librioffice on the tab at meetings rather than having to depend on a wireless connection to the cloud.
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There are things you can do with a linux load that android cannot do. And being a risc processor, it can do more in less memory than on a x86 processor. I want to be able to run librioffice on the tab at meetings rather than having to depend on a wireless connection to the cloud.
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Have you seen the "office" apps available in this forum, that came from the Notion Ink? You can do that with Android. That's kind of my point. The apps exist for the most part... Unless you want to run GIMP or some sort of CAD, which is silly to run on a tablet to start with *I* personally think.
You could theoretically install Eclipse/Android SDK and develop on the tablet.
Support usb modem $ ethernet Android -No, Linux -yes
Support cut/past between pdf and odf docs -- Android No Linux -yes
Ability to use the same linux apps that are on my netbook -- Android -No
Faster program action in linux not inside the java VM in android.
And Google may have several legal issues about stripping out the GPL2 headers out of source code.
If you want android and it's apps, that's fine. There are those of us who want a full OS and apps on our tabs. We'll work to get what we want running the way we want. Try that with an Ipad.
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I'm not really sure what the point of putting Ubuntu on the GTab is. I suppose there are linux apps that just aren't available in Android, but most of those are the heavy hitting apps that you'd never want to run on the GTab anyway. just trying to figure out what the point is.
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Because some of us are considering using the gtab for work. I'm sure most people see it as a toy. I intend to use it for much more than a toy. A full os like ubuntu will get the job done.
unfortunately not a full OS
Look I want Ubuntu as much as anyone and I am starting my own business in Photography so another one for the work aspect...
However, it will be limited and not a full OS at least IMO until Ubuntu on the Gtablet can:
run wine (optional but not necessary) may not even work at all since wine is for windows programs and gtab is arm processor
have Flash for video and the web (would this idea have a chance at working http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=994433)
able to connect--read and hopefully write to CD/DVD (obviously drivers needed)
there are other limitations that we will discover too I am sure but without at least the last two from above, Ubuntu on the Gtablet will not be a full OS, a darn handy mobile one but not a full one IMO!
thanks NMCBR600 for your work on this and jersacct whos version (no touch screen has wireless) I am currently using.
I am greatly hoping NMCBR600 gets wireless going on his so I can get touch going on my tablet. Sorry that I may have ideas of my own and love what the Devs come up with here but I am helpless to do any of this myself because I am not that advanced, wish I was, I wish I was.
doihaveto said:
run wine (optional but not necessary) may not even work at all since wine is for windows programs and gtab is arm processor
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Actually, I can live without wine. I've never had to use it.
have Flash for video and the web (would this idea have a chance at working http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=994433)
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No problem, me thinks.
able to connect--read and hopefully write to CD/DVD (obviously drivers needed)
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USB to external drive.
true about usb external drive but in my photography business I plan to be giving customers who pay for the option a cd/dvd with everything they order on it and so hence the cd/dvd function
and the flash part is there any dev who may happen to read this thread have any ideas to get flash working on arm ubuntu
thanks
Hellburger said:
You could theoretically install Eclipse/Android SDK and develop on the tablet.
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This is actually something that I would want (Eclipse), so touche.
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run wine (optional but not necessary) may not even work at all since wine is for windows programs and gtab is arm processor
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This actually just opened my eyes to a new potential... VMWare has already shown VM's running on Android. Running a Linux VM from within Android would be utterly awesome.
wine will probably never make it to Android, because of the processor architecture issue... well, at least until vendors start shipping x86 tablets that run on recent Android versions (Wind River is working on it)
doihaveto said:
true about usb external drive but in my photography business I plan to be giving customers who pay for the option a cd/dvd with everything they order on it and so hence the cd/dvd function
and the flash part is there any dev who may happen to read this thread have any ideas to get flash working on arm ubuntu
thanks
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But we're talking about a tablet. They have to keep the thickness around half an inch. So, I suspect that no tablet will ever have an internal cd/dvd drive. Just get an external one and carry that around. DVDs are cheaper than dirt these days anyway.
that us what I mean I have an external usb dvdrw drive but ubuntu on the gtablet will not mount anything off of it in other words it will not read/write off of the usb external drive
I can only hope that support will be able to be added with proper drivers unfortunately I don't know how that works so it won't be coming from me.
With the iso support compiled for the kernel, a linux load will see a cd/dvd. It may need external power as the tab may not provide enough through the usb port.
i have to concur
While android is a great tool for social apps, email, light webbrowsing. It fails at something as simple as copying an address from a website to spread sheet. The programs for linux are far more robust. Actually where is android gimp? The touch screen does not work as a mouse. And the key board is missing things as simple as ctrl left tohighlight
I am wondering if anyone knows of any way or if someone is working on a way to get ICS or JB to boot on a home-built PC? My PC is AMD 64, 8G RAM, etc. I have seen some instructions online, but they failed to mention that you must have a certain laptop or tablet. I would like to be able to tri-boot Android and run it whenever I feel like (probably use it the most). Thank you for any input.
Massive overkill. Why not simply run VMware and stick Android in a virtual machine?
android-x86
There is a project called "android-x86" - this might help you.
I tried android-x86. That is where I found out after several failures that you can only use a handful of specific Lenovo devices to boot into Android. Apparently there is a way to use Android 1.6, but who wants that.
As far as the overkill thing. Well I did build it as a workhorse PC. And I could run VM. But I would rather boot into it. I think it would be great for average tasks.
How difficult would it be to make it work for myself from AOSP?
Kernel build, hardware support etc. That's why I just run a VM for mime when I want to play. Also means I can access all my synched days such as SMS messages easily on my PC.
Sent from the darkest corner of my mind.
So the other day I found a nextbook Ares 8 basically in the trash. Within 10 minutes of being home I fixed and rooted it and fiddled around with it. Its got a 4 core atom that runs at 1.83GHz, 2mb cache, and I think 1 gig of ram? Either way it should handle android a lot better than it does. If I make android do anything more than a web browser or SNES emulator it completely crashes and turns off and all I can say is that the ROM is just garbage.
Being that its a 64 bit intel processor I would think I can put linux on it. I have a keyboard case with it so thats not a concern really. Is there a way to flash a conventional UEFI to it rather than TWRP? Or the android bootloader? Theres other roms out there than are just AOSP android but I'd rather not have it run that.
Any suggestions are appreciated.
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Have you yet discovered it's bios? These things are kinda cool, but somewhat of an ass pain. OTG cable with a keyboard can get you to BIOS with Esc on boot. A USB Hub (powered if possible, i've seen unpowered work though) and a bootable usb like any normal pc for the good stuff.
I've had Windows 8 running on one of these Cherry/Baytrail x86_64 guys (NX16A10132). The Ares8a and 10a seem to have almost the same if not THE same bios settings. Definitely the same "InsydeH20 Setup Utility" bios. But if you haven't already discovered all this, these things are way more of a mini/tablet pc than an Android device. They all have settings for running Windows in bios.