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Original Impression - Is this for real?

I bought this Gtablet when my wife and I were out doing last minute Christmas shopping on Friday afternoon. No actual live unit on display or available at Sears so bought one based on hope. My first impressions were very mixed. It was painfully slow when I first booted it up while waiting for my wife who had gone into another store and I waited for her in the car (plugged in using inverter we carry with us). Later when we got home it downloaded the update and that helped the speed issue (but still sluggish) but I've run into all kinds of issues that have me ready to return this thing.
First thing I noticed is the number of times that apps force close on the GT including the browser built into the unit. That is about to drive me nuts but I discovered another even more major issue - for me. I planned to use this device to log into our webmail server when I'm travelling in order to get my mail. I can log into the webmail and I can bring up the mail but when I open a piece of email I cannot scroll the screen to read the entire email. I also have a Moto DX and I can read my email via web just fine on that (don't like it because of the small screen and keyboard). So, why does my DX work fine with our webmail client and the GT not work? I am clueless and ticked off.
I was going to return it today but my wife wants me to hold off and call Viewsonic support but I have my doubts that they will be of much help. So, I'm wondering if putting up a custom ROM might help because of using a different kernel?
I have a couple of weeks to return this but I want it either working or gone so I have a proposal. I'm new to Android and don't want to take the chance of bricking this and losing my money and I need this done quickly in order to make a decision. I"m willing to pay a modest fee for someone "KNOWLEDGEABLE" to possiby teamviewer into one of my machines to to root/rom this unit. There would absolutely have to be a return to stock method in case the new rom doesn't work either.
I have a Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit machine, Win 7 Prof. 64 bit and a Win XP 32 bit machine available to use. In reading through a number of threads here it seems that various iterations of Windows have issues with the drivers for this. You can PM me here.
R

Unless you mess around with the bootloader, you cant really brick it. Nobody has yet, and I doubt you would be the first.
Also I reccomend this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885940
It is like A lite eversoin of TNT lite. It speeds it upi while keeping it stockish.

Many of us understand your experience. Most of us acknowledge that the first software was not what it should have been.
I have a modded machine which is super. I have an OTA 3389 tablet which is more than acceptable.
From your comments, it sounds to me like your plan to return is the best course of action.
The G-Tablet can be a super machine, but not without some interest in working with and improving it on your part.
Sorry this is not better news. Maybe someone else will respond with a different idea.
Rev

bijan588 said:
Unless you mess around with the bootloader, you cant really brick it. Nobody has yet, and I doubt you would be the first.
Also I reccomend this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885940
It is like A lite eversoin of TNT lite. It speeds it upi while keeping it stockish.
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Yep, just check the dev forum for instructions on installing new custom firmware. I'd also recommend making sure that you install clockwork mod 0.8 to ease backup/restores.
...OTOH from what I've heard is that the new stock fw 3389 is quite a bit better than what it ships with. And from there you can add a few minor updates, rooting, maybe the performance pack, sideload some apps and possibly the market "fix" which might be good enough for you, but even then I'd really have to recommend installing clockwork mod simply for the ease of making an image of a nicely working modified system and then being able to restore that if something messes it up...
Tablet is really nice, stable, and fast once properly setup and it's not really too hard to do any of the above IF you FOLLOW the instructions and READ them ENTIRELY and the caveats BEFOREHAND.
Really it's almost plug and play...

racedog said:
I planned to use this device to log into our webmail server when I'm travelling in order to get my mail. I can log into the webmail and I can bring up the mail but when I open a piece of email I cannot scroll the screen to read the entire email. I also have a Moto DX and I can read my email via web just fine on that (don't like it because of the small screen and keyboard). So, why does my DX work fine with our webmail client and the GT not work? I am clueless and ticked off.
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Here's a trick that works for me: if I zoom in a little on the webmail page that I cannot scroll, after the zooming in I am able to scroll to view the entire email.
I guess that soon you'll find the lack of Copy/Paste. Apple was run out of town for this and Windows Phone 7 too. At least with the G Tablet the lack of Copy/Paste seems to be limited to the stock apps.

Fuzzy John said:
Here's a trick that works for me: if I zoom in a little on the webmail page that I cannot scroll, after the zooming in I am able to scroll to view the entire email.
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Thanks John for that suggestion!! It worked and I can read my email from the G. That makes me happy.
Now for a new issue, I formatted a 16gig SD (FAT32) and put that in, the unit says that it knows that it is there but when I connect the unit using the USB cable to my Win 7 (64) machine its finds the machine, I tell it to activate USB transfer mode but I don't see SD2 in there. I wanted to transfer a pile of music onto it but can't do that since I can't see it. I tried transferring the music directly to the sd and then putting it into the G but when I do that it doesn't find anything.
I didn't really find anything on point in searching so if I'm missing that please point me to the thread.
I think I will go ahead and work with this. I've used and moded Win Mobile phones for the last ten years but am new to Android.
The offer for help still stands if anyone wants to take advantage and I would like to use it as a learning experience as I get into Android.
Oh yeah, thanks to all for the super fast responses. That is really appreciated. Even though it only shows that I have 5 or six posts here that isn't quite accurate. Many years ago when this site first opened I found it because I was using XDA phones but those were all WinMO at the time. I drifted away for a long time and when I came back now I am a new member again here. No longer a WinMo user and I really don't like Windows Phone 7 so I bought a Moto DX and love the phone, got my wife an HTC Incredible (she gave up her iPhone for that and that took a LOT of convincing on my part) but I am pretty much really happy with the Android OS and where it seesm to be going.
What I do love about the G is the size, the Galaxy Tab is just too small and the 800 horizontal resolution is too small so when I found a 10" tablet with 1024 and only $379.95 it sounded like a great deal. The screen angle is a ***** but I can live with that but I am sorely missing the Market (GMarket is sad). Looking forward to getting this machine rooted and rom'ed and up and running like it should be.
R
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racedog said:
Fuzzy John said:
Here's a trick that works for me: if I zoom in a little on the webmail page that I cannot scroll, after the zooming in I am able to scroll to view the entire email.
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Thanks John for that suggestion!! It worked and I can read my email from the G. That makes me happy.
Now for a new issue, I formatted a 16gig SD (FAT32) and put that in, the unit says that it knows that it is there but when I connect the unit using the USB cable to my Win 7 (64) machine its finds the machine, I tell it to activate USB transfer mode but I don't see SD2 in there. I wanted to transfer a pile of music onto it but can't do that since I can't see it. I tried transferring the music directly to the sd and then putting it into the G but when I do that it doesn't find anything.
I didn't really find anything on point in searching so if I'm missing that please point me to the thread.
I think I will go ahead and work with this. I've used and moded Win Mobile phones for the last ten years but am new to Android.
The offer for help still stands if anyone wants to take advantage and I would like to use it as a learning experience as I get into Android.
Oh yeah, thanks to all for the super fast responses. That is really appreciated. Even though it only shows that I have 5 or six posts here that isn't quite accurate. Many years ago when this site first opened I found it because I was using XDA phones but those were all WinMO at the time. I drifted away for a long time and when I came back now I am a new member again here. No longer a WinMo user and I really don't like Windows Phone 7 so I bought a Moto DX and love the phone, got my wife an HTC Incredible (she gave up her iPhone for that and that took a LOT of convincing on my part) but I am pretty much really happy with the Android OS and where it seesm to be going.
What I do love about the G is the size, the Galaxy Tab is just too small and the 800 horizontal resolution is too small so when I found a 10" tablet with 1024 and only $379.95 it sounded like a great deal. The screen angle is a ***** but I can live with that but I am sorely missing the Market (GMarket is sad). Looking forward to getting this machine rooted and rom'ed and up and running like it should be.
R
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Install the latest update and do a factory restore inside the security section of settings.
Then if you want install the tnt enhancement pack from the device section. Don't worry about returning to stock because they don't even open the box when you return or exchange. If they did, they would have no idea what they would be looking at.
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racedog said:
Fuzzy John said:
Here's a trick that works for me: if I zoom in a little on the webmail page that I cannot scroll, after the zooming in I am able to scroll to view the entire email.
QUOTE]
Thanks John for that suggestion!! It worked and I can read my email from the G. That makes me happy.
Now for a new issue, I formatted a 16gig SD (FAT32) and put that in, the unit says that it knows that it is there but when I connect the unit using the USB cable to my Win 7 (64) machine its finds the machine, I tell it to activate USB transfer mode but I don't see SD2 in there. I wanted to transfer a pile of music onto it but can't do that since I can't see it. I tried transferring the music directly to the sd and then putting it into the G but when I do that it doesn't find anything.
I didn't really find anything on point in searching so if I'm missing that please point me to the thread.
I think I will go ahead and work with this. I've used and moded Win Mobile phones for the last ten years but am new to Android.
The offer for help still stands if anyone wants to take advantage and I would like to use it as a learning experience as I get into Android.
Oh yeah, thanks to all for the super fast responses. That is really appreciated. Even though it only shows that I have 5 or six posts here that isn't quite accurate. Many years ago when this site first opened I found it because I was using XDA phones but those were all WinMO at the time. I drifted away for a long time and when I came back now I am a new member again here. No longer a WinMo user and I really don't like Windows Phone 7 so I bought a Moto DX and love the phone, got my wife an HTC Incredible (she gave up her iPhone for that and that took a LOT of convincing on my part) but I am pretty much really happy with the Android OS and where it seesm to be going.
What I do love about the G is the size, the Galaxy Tab is just too small and the 800 horizontal resolution is too small so when I found a 10" tablet with 1024 and only $379.95 it sounded like a great deal. The screen angle is a ***** but I can live with that but I am sorely missing the Market (GMarket is sad). Looking forward to getting this machine rooted and rom'ed and up and running like it should be.
R
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You should be able to see the microsd on the Gtab using, for example, ES File explorer. It'll be at /sdcard2.
As for seeing /sdcard2 from your pc, I thought I saw a post saying that if you have winamp installed on the gtab, it has an option for mounting sdcard2, and when that's enabled you can see /sdcard2. Haven't tried that myself.
Jim
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racedog said:
Fuzzy John said:
Here's a trick that works for me: if I zoom in a little on the webmail page that I cannot scroll, after the zooming in I am able to scroll to view the entire email.
QUOTE]
Thanks John for that suggestion!! It worked and I can read my email from the G. That makes me happy.
Now for a new issue, I formatted a 16gig SD (FAT32) and put that in, the unit says that it knows that it is there but when I connect the unit using the USB cable to my Win 7 (64) machine its finds the machine, I tell it to activate USB transfer mode but I don't see SD2 in there. I wanted to transfer a pile of music onto it but can't do that since I can't see it. I tried transferring the music directly to the sd and then putting it into the G but when I do that it doesn't find anything.
I didn't really find anything on point in searching so if I'm missing that please point me to the thread.
I think I will go ahead and work with this. I've used and moded Win Mobile phones for the last ten years but am new to Android.
The offer for help still stands if anyone wants to take advantage and I would like to use it as a learning experience as I get into Android.
Oh yeah, thanks to all for the super fast responses. That is really appreciated. Even though it only shows that I have 5 or six posts here that isn't quite accurate. Many years ago when this site first opened I found it because I was using XDA phones but those were all WinMO at the time. I drifted away for a long time and when I came back now I am a new member again here. No longer a WinMo user and I really don't like Windows Phone 7 so I bought a Moto DX and love the phone, got my wife an HTC Incredible (she gave up her iPhone for that and that took a LOT of convincing on my part) but I am pretty much really happy with the Android OS and where it seesm to be going.
What I do love about the G is the size, the Galaxy Tab is just too small and the 800 horizontal resolution is too small so when I found a 10" tablet with 1024 and only $379.95 it sounded like a great deal. The screen angle is a ***** but I can live with that but I am sorely missing the Market (GMarket is sad). Looking forward to getting this machine rooted and rom'ed and up and running like it should be.
R
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If you join #tegratab on freenode, I or someone else would help you. Here is a web client: http://webchat.freenode.net/
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P.S. Here's the thread about winamp and sdcard2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=880237&highlight=winamp

Ahead of the game.
Hi racedog, actually I think you are ahead of the game. You seem to have made a lot of progress if you bought this Christmas eve.
How did you get it to run in the parking lot of the mall on Christmas eve? Even with a power inverter for power, hoe did you get a WiFi connection?
So far my G Tablet is stock and I am over-all happy with it. However, after Viewsonics post that they won't be providing any support for swapping the LCD screen, I feel they are missing the point. Their post said they would be anouncing some new products soon (my guess is at CES right after the first of the year).
I might end up taking my G Tablet back to Sears and waiting for the newer, more powerful and maybe more promising second generation tablets I am sure are to come at CES.
This tablet has been fun and I may keep it, but, I would really like to know the price points on the new models at CES.

Sucks out of the box.
Erase it and start over.
Load Clockwork Recovery Mod first! Put the update.zip on the sdcard, don't worry about the external SD method.
Once you have that boot mod, it's next to impossible to screw it up.
Flash that then get TNT lite 3.1.0 plus the supplement
Make sure you format the SDCARD using the advanced menu 2048 and 0 swap r it will crash on ya.
Do the full market fix. Download Dolphin HD and you will have a very usable tablet.
racedog said:
I bought this Gtablet when my wife and I were out doing last minute Christmas shopping on Friday afternoon. No actual live unit on display or available at Sears so bought one based on hope. My first impressions were very mixed. It was painfully slow when I first booted it up while waiting for my wife who had gone into another store and I waited for her in the car (plugged in using inverter we carry with us). Later when we got home it downloaded the update and that helped the speed issue (but still sluggish) but I've run into all kinds of issues that have me ready to return this thing.
First thing I noticed is the number of times that apps force close on the GT including the browser built into the unit. That is about to drive me nuts but I discovered another even more major issue - for me. I planned to use this device to log into our webmail server when I'm travelling in order to get my mail. I can log into the webmail and I can bring up the mail but when I open a piece of email I cannot scroll the screen to read the entire email. I also have a Moto DX and I can read my email via web just fine on that (don't like it because of the small screen and keyboard). So, why does my DX work fine with our webmail client and the GT not work? I am clueless and ticked off.
I was going to return it today but my wife wants me to hold off and call Viewsonic support but I have my doubts that they will be of much help. So, I'm wondering if putting up a custom ROM might help because of using a different kernel?
I have a couple of weeks to return this but I want it either working or gone so I have a proposal. I'm new to Android and don't want to take the chance of bricking this and losing my money and I need this done quickly in order to make a decision. I"m willing to pay a modest fee for someone "KNOWLEDGEABLE" to possiby teamviewer into one of my machines to to root/rom this unit. There would absolutely have to be a return to stock method in case the new rom doesn't work either.
I have a Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit machine, Win 7 Prof. 64 bit and a Win XP 32 bit machine available to use. In reading through a number of threads here it seems that various iterations of Windows have issues with the drivers for this. You can PM me here.
R
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I will be doing the clockwork mod and putting on a new rom. The question is about formatting the card. You mention above used "advanced menu 2048", I don't know where I would find that on android on the G, or are you referring to something else?
I didn't get it connected while in the car, I just had it plugged in so that I could take a look at it and start putting a charge on it. I didn't connect until I got home. However, I DID try connecting it in the car using my Moto DX with wireless tether. The dx showed that it was running but the G never found the signal from the phone. It did see a few other secured wifi connections but it didn't see the phone. I have no idea whether this was because I don't have wifi tethering setup correctly on the DX or what the deal is but I figured I would work with that later.
I don't really care if I have to tether via usb with the phone but wifi is a lot cleaner and easier if possible. I know that easy tether and pdanet are out there but I haven't checked to see if they have an android client yet, I've only used them on my Win 7 netbook.
R

racedog said:
I will be doing the clockwork mod and putting on a new rom. The question is about formatting the card. You mention above used "advanced menu 2048", I don't know where I would find that on android on the G, or are you referring to something else?
I didn't get it connected while in the car, I just had it plugged in so that I could take a look at it and start putting a charge on it. I didn't connect until I got home. However, I DID try connecting it in the car using my Moto DX with wireless tether. The dx showed that it was running but the G never found the signal from the phone. It did see a few other secured wifi connections but it didn't see the phone. I have no idea whether this was because I don't have wifi tethering setup correctly on the DX or what the deal is but I figured I would work with that later.
I don't really care if I have to tether via usb with the phone but wifi is a lot cleaner and easier if possible. I know that easy tether and pdanet are out there but I haven't checked to see if they have an android client yet, I've only used them on my Win 7 netbook.
R
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Offer is still open on IRC

racedog said:
I will be doing the clockwork mod and putting on a new rom. The question is about formatting the card. You mention above used "advanced menu 2048", I don't know where I would find that on android on the G, or are you referring to something else?
I didn't get it connected while in the car, I just had it plugged in so that I could take a look at it and start putting a charge on it. I didn't connect until I got home. However, I DID try connecting it in the car using my Moto DX with wireless tether. The dx showed that it was running but the G never found the signal from the phone. It did see a few other secured wifi connections but it didn't see the phone. I have no idea whether this was because I don't have wifi tethering setup correctly on the DX or what the deal is but I figured I would work with that later.
I don't really care if I have to tether via usb with the phone but wifi is a lot cleaner and easier if possible. I know that easy tether and pdanet are out there but I haven't checked to see if they have an android client yet, I've only used them on my Win 7 netbook.
R
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I found that the stock rom cannot use ad-hoc networks. I had to use the hack for the 3G Hotspot app on the DX to get it working on the Gtab. Once I upgraded to TnT lite than I was able to use Wireless Tether and stopped getting all the drops and reconnects too.
I really think that you will be happy with this as soon as you mod it with what's here in this community. I have only been here for less than a week and have found answers to all my questions. Good luck.

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Offer is still open on IRC
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I appreciate the offer but because of the holidays I won't be able to take you up on it until probably Tuesday, maybe tomorrow Monday if I get REALLY lucky. I going to be trying to do as much as I can myself until them.
I wondered if the problem might be that the stock rom did not recognize ad hoc networks because I looked for the option to select it and it was not there. Thanks for that info.
R

Forgot, the winamp solution didn't work. I selected the mount option in winamp but it did nothing. I will get back to this issue once I get the greater issue of the rom and wifi connect to my phone fixed. Those are the real biggies that need fixing first.
R

Thanks to rothnic this new G has CWM installed and tnt like running on it along with Market and other apps that I've downloaded from it. What a huge difference this makes, my constant FC's seem to have stopped happening and I am now very happy with this unit. What a world of difference.
The screen is still a major issue but I can live with it (for now, will keep watching the screen swapping thread) but the device is fast, functional and completely usable whereas 24 hours ago I was set to return it to Sears but my wife talked me out of that and to try fixing it.
Again, special thanks to rothnic for all the "above and beyond" help and patience and also to all of the Gtab community here for the help and suggestions.
R

[Q] will the transformer suit my needs/expectations?

im in the market for a tablet and I keep coming back to the transformer.ive done some research but I just need a few questions answered by actual owners to make me take the leap. i need the following in my tab:
eye candy
hdmi out
cwm/roms
no annoying bugs. ( by annoying i mean reboots and such. no stock g2x crap )
from the threads i know it has the 1st 3. but ill need some clarification on the bugs part. now to the deal breakers. I NEED certain apps to work on this bad boy
hbo go
netflix
longevity ( it doesnt have to be as good as the lets say HD2 but u get the point)
ps3 sixaxis controller (ESPECIALLY THIS ONE, ill pass if it doesn't)
also all in all are you guys happy with the tablet? would you prefer another one and if so why? any features that just make you want to smash it against the wall? lol thanks

uploder said:
im in the market for a tablet and I keep coming back to the transformer.ive done some research but I just need a few questions answered by actual owners to make me take the leap. i need the following in my tab:
eye candy
hdmi out
cwm/roms
no annoying bugs. ( by annoying i mean reboots and such. no stock g2x crap )
from the threads i know it has the 1st 3. but ill need some clarification on the bugs part. now to the deal breakers. I NEED certain apps to work on this bad boy
hbo go
netflix
longevity ( it doesnt have to be as good as the lets say HD2 but u get the point)
ps3 sixaxis controller (ESPECIALLY THIS ONE, ill pass if it doesn't)
also all in all are you guys happy with the tablet? would you prefer another one and if so why? any features that just make you want to smash it against the wall? lol thanks
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Does HDMI well, there is CWM and ROMS but the newer models have a different secure key so regular root methods may not work...but when you do get root, the custom roms fix all those bugs. And if not, request it!
As for eye candy, I love showing it off. The key is having it in the dock. Then undocking blows their mind. they go, woah!!! I need to get one! haha.
Havent tried hbo go, sorry.
I hear the last update enables netflix without root!
last long i suppose, no one knows since its been out for a few months. but you could RMA.
The PS3 controller works. Tried it. that was one of the first things I did. I hear they even have an app for the wireless, you dont need the usb cable plugged in to the dock. Wii works too. Not sure about xbox.
Love the tablet. best thing ive bought in a while. use it all the time. its an extension of my main gadgets. My desktop, tablet and phone have all the same stuff, all synced. And when i leave my desktop, my tablet has the things the desktop was doing (either by chrome to phone or remote desktop). The thing makes calls too. And google voice works, so text and voicemail. Overall, I see this as the future. Dock when you need to type fast/add precision. undock for portability/touchscreen. smoooooth. best of both worlds. remoting into windows works perfect, remote RDP supports right click. splashtop is better for streaming however, plays videos like a boss. everyone will get one of these eventually.

thanks for the insight. im definitely looking into this tab

1 have not tried hbo go
2 stock firmware has netflix support now, find the .apk installer in google and download then install
3 longevity, don't know to early to tell, it is not that old. but i would think so because it is a low price and has a unique dock.
4 havent tried this one but honeycomb should just recognize it. somewhere i saw an app to let you connect through bluetooth, but you needed root.
as far as rooting goes some b70 models all ones above were changed so you couldnt root them at the moment. the people who rooted it the first time are trying to get a working root for the newer models to. he may get them to be rootable again and asus may block it again. only time will tell.
some b70's becouse ming was rootable.

Very happy with this tab. I dwelled for hours on it - trying to chose between this and the acer iconia. Both have their merits but in the end decided its rather have this for the dock. At times a proper keyboard can be handy and the extra battery life is also nice. I don't envisage bring away from power more than a couple of hours but good to know I can go probably a few days without needing to look at a charger if I had to.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

yeah i plan on getting it from amazon so im assuming I would get a newer model b70 or b80. hopefully these will be rootable in the near future....i have plans for this bad boy

Well, I'm not... Asus support sucks, mine has been broken since mid July and asus have failed to fix it twice now. Waste of money its spending all its time broken.

^^^^^^^what exactly is broken on yours?

get an ipad.

^^cant....im not a sheep

uploder said:
yeah i plan on getting it from amazon so im assuming I would get a newer model b70 or b80. hopefully these will be rootable in the near future....i have plans for this bad boy
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Just bought mine yesterday from a local best buy store and it happened to be a B60 model. So excited when I saw this. Used it all last night and really love the thing. Best buy I have made in a long time.

[Q] Skytex Primer Pocket

So I have a Skytex Primer Pocket, little 4.3" thing running Android 2.2. No market, no official Google apps, and, above all, no mention of it anywhere except for brief reviews. So I'm looking into rooting it, or just getting the Market onto it (and maybe the Gmail app). It comes with GetJar, which, as I've just learned, is a ****ty alternative app store full of spam and ads. I'm also learning that if you wanna have a half way decent experience you NEED the Market, which this doesn't have. I've had very little experience with Android (never owned an Android device before this), so please bear with me if I say or said something stupid. What would yall smart people suggest?

Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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oops! sorry

I just got a pocket primer for my three year old to play with (navigates my EVO 4G better than my wife). In it's stock form he can play videos and basic angry birds but even he will get frustrated if I can't get the same apps on that thing as the rest of his family has,......and he beats me.

haha wow i'd given up on this thread. I've actually pretty much given up on my device entirely and use it almost exclusively as an mp3 player. The browser doesn't open anymore (it displays a message stating that it crashed whenever I open it), the wifi doesn't turn on and it's just a ****ing piece of ****.

thefinn93 said:
haha wow i'd given up on this thread. I've actually pretty much given up on my device entirely and use it almost exclusively as an mp3 player. The browser doesn't open anymore (it displays a message stating that it crashed whenever I open it), the wifi doesn't turn on and it's just a ****ing piece of ****.
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The problems you are having can most likely be resolved by hitting the reset button, as I have had to do once or twice. Also, if you wanted it to have all the things you mentioned, why did you buy this device? The ad states pretty clearly that the apps market that this device uses is Getjar. And, once again, you get what you pay for. BTW, there are many apps on the Amazon Apps Market that work just fine.

You can also download 1 Mobile Market as a good alternative, much better than Getjar...

warneso said:
The problems you are having can most likely be resolved by hitting the reset button, as I have had to do once or twice. Also, if you wanted it to have all the things you mentioned, why did you buy this device? The ad states pretty clearly that the apps market that this device uses is Getjar. And, once again, you get what you pay for. BTW, there are many apps on the Amazon Apps Market that work just fine.
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Yeah I had mine given to me and wasn't really sure what to expect, but wasn't terribly impressed. It makes an OK media player. And yes, I ended up resetting it and getting the browser back.
As for 1 Mobile Market, good to know, will try it. Thanks. For everyone who has it: is it "pre rooted"? like, when you connect with ADB do you get a root shell, or do i have a weird one?

hmmm I wonder if SlideMe market would work as well, I think all skytex devices come with root already its one of there monkiers, I just wish the dev community would pick a couple up and throw ROM's at em cheap devices that work well as gifts but have crappy stock roms
right now my daughter is using one as mp3 player and using amazon market on it but she calls me everyday and I have to tell her reset, Im just going to start answering the phone, "reset it"

I have tried myself with the Gapps and i managed to install them by installing the market vending. Youtube doesnt work, and by that I mean that the video doesnt play. Which I cant understand because mobile youtube can play just fine. Plus from what I can remember it disables its own lockscreen and the home button ceases to work and a factory reset is the only answer. Defiantly a unique situation and ridiculous as well. How does all that happen from just installing the market? A clusterf**k of BS is all I can say about it. These low grade tablets are mostly hopeless to get properly suited with G apps so Im at a loss for anything else to do.

[Q] Poor screen response?

I've just got back from looking at the Galaxy Tab 2 7.0" on display in the Carphone Warehouse.
Has anybody else noticed that the screen doesn't respond smoothly to pinch-to-zoom gestures in Google Maps? I tried exactly the same thing on a couple of other tablets on display - e.g. TF Prime, Galaxy Tab 7.7 and they responded exactly as I would expect. The errant behaviour I noticed was that the zoom didn't always change the way I expected it to - some gestures resulted in wildly different zoom levels than I was expecting, and it just didn't do a good job of tracking two fingers at once. (Just sweeping one finger over the screen was okay so far as I could see.)
For some reason, the stock web browser seemed to be pretty well behaved. I tried rebooting the device, but that didn't seem to make any difference. Have Samsung cheaped out on the input digitiser, or was the unit in the store faulty?
I'd appreciate any feedback - at £200 I was walking into the store ready to buy one, but my experience with Google Maps really put me off.

I would never use a store model as a performance benchmark. They are good for getting a physical feel for the device but when you have a popular device that just came out that tons of people are using, installing different (Possibly malicious) apps, and just basically abusing they tend to never perform the way they will when you actually own the device.
I will test out maps myself but I believe this device is plenty fast enough for anything you throw at it.

Thanks for taking the time to reply, and for agreeing to give it a go - I look forward to hearing your impressions...

I don't have any issues with Google Maps on my tablet. I haven't used it that often, but I don't notice anything unusual when zooming in and out.

I made a video and went to post it to youtube but it's not letting me. Basically Maps is smooth as butter. I had no trouble zooming in and out and moving around the entire map. No lag at all.

Thank you both for your responses, it's been very helpful to get some real world opinions! I clearly need to give this tablet a second chance.
I'll report back soon once I've made a second visit to the shop...

BodHack said:
Thank you both for your responses, it's been very helpful to get some real world opinions! I clearly need to give this tablet a second chance.
I'll report back soon once I've made a second visit to the shop...
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I would definitely say at least restart the tablet before you start using it. Makes a world of difference.

It's my experience that this tablets screen is a little unresponsive. My phone has a very responsive screen as compared to the tablet and when I use the tablet with a mouse all the issues go away. I use a Logitech mouse (M110) I bought locally for under $10.00 with this tablet. When using the mouse there is no lag and unresponsiveness.
I still think this tablet is great and am very happy using it daily especially with the app "tablet talk" installed.

bark777 said:
It's my experience that this tablets screen is a little unresponsive.
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I have to agree. Sometimes it's perfect. Sometimes it acts like it's doing something else and too busy to respond. It seems to be most prominent in the all the different browsers I've tried. And it seems to get worse as I add more apps - though I never get past more than half-a-dozen or so before it becomes so bad that I give up and start over. I've tried to isolate it to one specific app, but it even does it in a box-stock configuration. Performing a factory reset fixes it for a time, and then it gradually starts to degrade again.
Sadly, I'm returning it.

wellersl said:
I have to agree. Sometimes it's perfect. Sometimes it acts like it's doing something else and too busy to respond. It seems to be most prominent in the all the different browsers I've tried. And it seems to get worse as I add more apps - though I never get past more than half-a-dozen or so before it becomes so bad that I give up and start over. I've tried to isolate it to one specific app, but it even does it in a box-stock configuration. Performing a factory reset fixes it for a time, and then it gradually starts to degrade again.
Sadly, I'm returning it.
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wow never had anything close to this
I notice a stutter sometimes when I am loading the screen up from sleep with the widgets, but after that its fine and I purposely never reboot just to see how it all lasts.

Reboots seriously do help me though. My home screen will be laggy about hallway through the day but I reboot and then, its smooth.
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Poor screen response on mine too. I'm gonna jump over to Samsung threads and see if any reports are being discussed there. Will post findings :banghead:
Soooo, nothing at samsung
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Thank you all for taking the time to respond. It almost sounds like there could be a couple of hardware versions out there. Is there any way to find out, as one does with Device Manager in Windows, what the exact hardware configuration is of an Android device? A useful app from the market?
Does ICS come with an easily accessed CPU usage monitor? It sounds like the screen response might be worse when the processor is loaded up...?
(I'm also not familiar enough with Linux to know what command lines might work, if there's no app which would show hardware configuration.)
I'm hoping to get back to the Carphone Warehouse tomorrow, and will ask the salesperson nicely if it's possible to try a new device that hasn't been put out on display...

I'm pretty sure it's bad form to keep replying to your own topic, but here goes anyway!
My plans changed at the last minute this morning and I had another chance to visit the shop. I discovered the CPU usage overlay in the developer options, and noted that when idle there didn't seem to be any gremlins sucking up all the CPU time. Maps was still a problem, and the gallery was a bit wonky too. It might just be me, but I also found precision selection (e.g. picking a hyperlink out of small text in the browser) to be a little less likely to succeed than I expected.
I wanted to speak to the staff about looking at another example of the P3110, but they were generally uninterested and I had to get back to work after hanging around for 20-30 minutes. Anyway, after looking at their returns policy, it seems like you have no rights to a return an item you buy in-store unless there is a fault which you can convince the staff about. Given their lack of interest in the problem when I brought it up on my last visit, I'm not really willing to risk that!
I'd suggest that anyone interested in buying one of these tablets does so over the phone or internet, because you then have a 14 day return period. The Carphone Warehouse terms and conditions state that if you want to return a tablet ordered online or on the phone that you must adhere to the following:
"Tablets:
* You can turn the tablet on and try it out. But you can't make any calls or send texts or emails, or add anything to its memory (such as saving numbers or taking a photo)
* The tablet must be returned in its original condition"
...So presumably, keep it clean and do a factory reset before you take it back!
For my part, I wouldn't want to buy one without a get-out clause, so I will be considering this option.
To conclude:
After this second visit, I think that many people would be fine with the device - it does respond to your inputs, it's just that under some circumstances it might take two or three goes to get the desired response. With a little patience this is not a problem at all, and considering the price point it's probably acceptable.
Unfortunately, I guess I'm not so patient as I once was - I'm too used to the way that my Galaxy S (Stock 2.3.5 ROM, XXJVT) responds to inputs, and I'd rather not take a step backwards. Ultimately, I'm now considering combining my desire to have a small ICS tablet with a mobile phone upgrade, in order to justify a Galaxy S III with its larger display (once the blue version is fixed/available).
Samsung would probably be happy with this outcome - after all, I'm now talking myself into spending £500 on one of their products instead of 'just' £200!

BodHack said:
It sounds like the screen response might be worse when the processor is loaded up...?
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Intuitively, the first thing I checked. In my case, nothing obvious indicated by the built-in task manager. I even tried using the setting Developer Options -> Do not Keep Activities
I hadn't seen that before, but it didn't help.
BodHack said:
Unfortunately, I guess I'm not so patient as I once was - I'm too used to the way that my Galaxy S (Stock 2.3.5 ROM, XXJVT) responds to inputs, and I'd rather not take a step backwards.
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I guess I'm in the same boat. I'm really looking for a 7-inch Droid X - without the phone.

Seems like some of us are having issues and some of us aren't, might it be a faulty hardware thing or a bad batch?

androidpixar said:
Seems like some of us are having issues and some of us aren't, might it be a faulty hardware thing or a bad batch?
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I just bought mine over the weekend so it is possible I got a newer revision than others who bought it in early May.
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miketoasty said:
I just bought mine over the weekend so it is possible I got a newer revision than others who bought it in early May.
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You having issues? I got mine last week and no issues so far.
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androidpixar said:
You having issues? I got mine last week and no issues so far.
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No, I am not having issues. Sorry said that earlier in the post.
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androidpixar said:
Seems like some of us are having issues and some of us aren't, might it be a faulty hardware thing or a bad batch?
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It reminds me of the first attempt by VZW/Moto at rolling out GB on for the Droid X. Some people praised it. Others cursed it. Some people got a new X2.
I was a cusser. Happily humming along now, still on FroYo.
It's true, though. Hardware continually gets revised and updated - not always for good. It could be as simple as changes in tolerances, or supplier's manufacturing processes.

[Q] zeki netflix

How can I get netflix to run on a zeki tablet. I have flashed it so it will now run google play but I can't seem to get netflix

nolan1945 said:
How can I get netflix to run on a zeki tablet. I have flashed it so it will now run google play but I can't seem to get netflix
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I also have google play flashed and google voice search.
I downloaded netflix and it installed without errors yet when I open it, it shows a black screen for a second and then closes. I still see it under the open apps window and clicking on it also goes black and closes.
I have seen postes saying it works bit is laggy but I can't eve get into it.
So I would like to BuMp this thread to a solution!

Netflix & Zeki's
Yep, we're all hitting the issue and I'm getting it exactly as you describe!
Apparently it's a Netflix update to ICS and they're fully aware of it, it's not
ZEKI's doing as far as I can find. I personally love this tab, picked up the
10" because the 7" were near impossible to find since they're both on
sale right now.
I'm still digging, but I'm reading several bits on alternate download sites
as the version from the Google Play store could be buggy enough to be
our entire problem. This includes downloading it from an alternate
Netflix site and from Amazon's store instead. Checking the revision #'s
to see if there's any difference...
The Netflix alternative download for US on ICS ONLY: tinyurl.com/nflx180
[Sorry Noob settings restricting URL's are good and stupid at the same time ]
Gotta do that from the browser on the tablet! Suck it down and make sure
you've not only removed the other version you have but get into your
Downloads area(s) and make sure any apk's are gone too so it doesn't
confuse anything!
I'm attempting both fixes now, alternate first, I'll post anything I find.

works great!
The Netflix alternative download for US on ICS ONLY: tinyurl.com/nflx180
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Via --- PSCGOhio
Works great for me! Thanks a lot!

thanks from an android noob
PSCGOhio said:
Yep, we're all hitting the issue and I'm getting it exactly as you describe!
Apparently it's a Netflix update to ICS and they're fully aware of it, it's not
ZEKI's doing as far as I can find. I personally love this tab, picked up the
10" because the 7" were near impossible to find since they're both on
sale right now.
I'm still digging, but I'm reading several bits on alternate download sites
as the version from the Google Play store could be buggy enough to be
our entire problem. This includes downloading it from an alternate
Netflix site and from Amazon's store instead. Checking the revision #'s
to see if there's any difference...
The Netflix alternative download for US on ICS ONLY: tinyurl.com/nflx180
[Sorry Noob settings restricting URL's are good and stupid at the same time ]
Gotta do that from the browser on the tablet! Suck it down and make sure
you've not only removed the other version you have but get into your
Downloads area(s) and make sure any apk's are gone too so it doesn't
confuse anything!
I'm attempting both fixes now, alternate first, I'll post anything I find.
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This is my first tablet. Thought I broke it. Thanks loads.

Netflix & Zeki's
Glad it worked for both of ya! I had some connection issues I finally got over but it does fly.
I bought the 10" because the 7's were long gone but I love the extra USB on it and graphics upgrade
so I don't regret the upgrade one bit. I'd found the ad, then went and researched the $99 sale model
before I just ran out and blew money. All the reviews I found said this was the most factory-made
hackable unit out there and while there's been some quirks it's rooted out of the box and ready for
anything. Just like my Samsung Instinct, it's all in learning the hack process and sideloading with
APK's frmo various sources. It's all out there, just a matter of finding it and patience in loading it
properly.
More stuff I find I'll make sure I update here on XDA!

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PSCGOhio said:
Glad it worked for both of ya! I had some connection issues I finally got over but it does fly.
I bought the 10" because the 7's were long gone but I love the extra USB on it and graphics upgrade
so I don't regret the upgrade one bit. I'd found the ad, then went and researched the $99 sale model
before I just ran out and blew money. All the reviews I found said this was the most factory-made
hackable unit out there and while there's been some quirks it's rooted out of the box and ready for
anything. Just like my Samsung Instinct, it's all in learning the hack process and sideloading with
APK's frmo various sources. It's all out there, just a matter of finding it and patience in loading it
properly.
More stuff I find I'll make sure I update here on XDA!
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Thank you for fixing Netflix for me too!! But I have a question that you may be able to answer.
I have a TB782B FID:CF Android 4.0.4 out of the box
- but am unable to get to recovery screen. Was there a hardware change since these postings? I was able to get into safe mode just not the recovery - tried holding vol up power then tried vol down power just boots to normal android screen. Any thoughts?

Whoops!
dbsii8 said:
Thank you for fixing Netflix for me too!! But I have a question that you may be able to answer.
I have a TB782B FID:CF Android 4.0.4 out of the box
- but am unable to get to recovery screen. Was there a hardware change since these postings? I was able to get into safe mode just not the recovery - tried holding vol up power then tried vol down power just boots to normal android screen. Any thoughts?
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Sorry about that! Somehow it didn't send me the update e-mail so I knew this was here and
I just found it...
I've always followed the instruction threads here on XDA for stuff like that and it's never failed - IF I
read the whole post with replies and didn't skim. I've done that before and nailed myself.
I'm not aware of anything Zeki ever changed, they have somewhat stagnated on development
and upgrades/improvements so I've pulled the new versions from here instead of them, lot
more stable too and allows things here to work far better. The hardware I think came from a
factory overseas with multiple names on it since I've seen hardware with the same internal
stuff but some other Mfg. name on it. All based on the same core and internal chipsets tho.
The buttons are a PIA, sometimes too long is as bad as too short so ensure you try at
various lengths and see if you get lucky, then note that for the future. I think I wasn't doing
it long enough and I mean I was holding it a long time for me even!