You see, I am having this problem where MMS's sent by someone to someone else are coming from my number and I called T-Mobile's G1 Support Dept and they want to sent me an OTA, but they need me to go into my settings and give them the exact firmware version I read there. Problem is I am jailbroken, so I didn't want to give them that, so I said I was on my cell and did not have another phone around I could use to call them back (which was actually true). So I have the following three questions:
1) Is anybody experiencing the same problem as me? Feel free to comment here or in the original post on HoFo.
2) What does the official build description read? I want to give them that one instead when I call back.
3) If I am jailbroken, is it OK to receive OTA's from T-Mobile? Will I even receive them? Will they install successfully? Will my jailbreak break?
Thanks a lot in advance!
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if you changed your phone to use the developer keyset (ie: JF's androidmod + modded rc 30), you should be fine even if they send it to you it wouldn't install because your phone now wants updates signed with the dev keys not the REAL tmob/htc keys...
I doubt it would fix your problem anyway, could somebody be "spoofing" the messages with "your caller id info" there are websites that will do this for txt, mms & even voice calls, that would be my guess.
Every once in a while the sms msg centers will just wig out and do wacky stuff from time to time, I have had messages show up hours and even days after they were sent, somebody the otherday msg'd me saying I had sent them a text, I hadn't (i checked sent msgs folder) so who knows it could have been just an anomolly.
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this occurred shortly after the initial launch of the G1. some suggested wiping the phone, but not sure if that fixed the issue. maybe you could reinstall jf's RC30 and then wipe and then restore your info.... might help?
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if you changed your phone to use the developer keyset (ie: JF's androidmod + modded rc 30), you should be fine even if they send it to you it wouldn't install because your phone now wants updates signed with the dev keys not the REAL tmob/htc keys...
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I think that's what I did, so I guess I won't be calling TMo back and I guess I'll have to live with this for now, having people I don't know message me weekly asking, "Who's this?" I just need to make sure I don't send anything compromising if I sent MMS's. *LOL*
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I doubt it would fix your problem anyway, could somebody be "spoofing" the messages with "your caller id info" there are websites that will do this for txt, mms & even voice calls, that would be my guess.
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Not at all. In both cases, the people asking who I was because they received a picture from my number confirmed they know the person who sent it to them and they did nothing special to send those messages, just use the native Messaging application.
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somebody the otherday msg'd me saying I had sent them a text, I hadn't (i checked sent msgs folder) so who knows it could have been just an anomolly.
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This sounds exactly like what I have been experiencing, only I have only seen it happen with MMS's, not SMS's.
korndub said:
this occurred shortly after the initial launch of the G1. some suggested wiping the phone, but not sure if that fixed the issue. maybe you could reinstall jf's RC30 and then wipe and then restore your info.... might help?
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I never saw reports of this before. Guess I missed them. See my response above. I will just wait and see what happens. Most likely, this is TMo screwing up and once enough people complain and TMo realizes the liability they have in their hands, they will move and fix this. Besides, I just saw in one of the threads that we should be able to install Cupcake, so I will explore that or wait for the next jailbreak update.
this was happening to me as well and it happened to be my father's iphone account weird, but yes i get really scared when i send my gf stuff now lol from my gmail account. i grabbed his phone to make sure he didn't see anything and just make sure it addressed to the right person when you send lol
i also input my contact into and when my father texts me (yes he just learned), the sender is my email address....odd
idk how to change it....
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I insist. 611 from your G1 and complain. T-Mobile needs to get the pressure to move enough resources to address this.
This same thing has been happening to me. I am using an iPhone with SwirlyMMS. I did notice that when people responded to me with a MMS asking me "Who is this?", according to my.t-mobile.com my texts were originating from India or Russia, but were from people's real cell phone numbers in the US. I know this, because one of the numbers in question called me and they were from NYC.
this has happend to my girlfriend a few months back and she has a tmo sidekick 3. Also, about 8 months ago my roomate was getting phone calls from all over the U.S. from people trying to reach other peole after about 10 phone calls i called his phone from mine (tmo wing at the time) and it went to someone else. I then hung up and tried a few minutes later and it went to someone different. He called t-mobile and they said they havnt recieved any other complaints and told him to restart his phone. He did, it did nothing. but over the next few days it seemed to fix itself, of t-mobile had found the problem. But back to the mms, My girlfriend now owns a G1 and just a few days ago i sent her a picture of my dog and it said it came from someone else. we both have G1's mine has root hers does not so i dont think it has anything to do with your phone.
this happened to my wife and I right around x-mas and it only lasted a few days. she relied to a text I sent and it went to NY, 'cause they called back and told us where they were from... and they had t-mobile. It quit after a couple of days and haven't had a problem with it since then.
Shocker on my latest phonebill. My phone have sent allot of sms too 0020000001 (egypt) since 2011-09-28 too 2011-10-18. Seems to have stopped now when I use senseless. Used bulletproof before if there was some app incuded in that relese. :-/
I've been using all of the ROMs available in the dev section.
Still have zero text messages and 1 phone call (test on the day I got it, to my other cell) on my whole account history.
Confirmed with t-mobile.
Outgoing, which is the issue I assume - get text messages from T-mo, working on putting a stop to this.
It took some serious effort and a threat of cancellation to t-mo to get them to stop calling me, but the only incoming calls I've ever had to this phone were from t-mo, and I never answered.
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Shocker on my latest phonebill. My phone have sent allot of sms too 0020000001 (egypt) since 2011-09-28 too 2011-10-18. Seems to have stopped now when I use senseless. Used bulletproof before if there was some app incuded in that relese. :-/
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You shoulda flashed my security patch in dev section. I dont know why romanbb never updated his rom with the security patch? I was all over that the day of.
Sent from my Senseless Doubleshot using xda premium
Strange it is anyway. Found this thread where they mentioned the same number. I don't use T-Mobile though.
http://t-mobilesupportalcommunity2.hosted.jivesoftware.com/thread/2323?start=0&tstart=0
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http://support.t-mobile.com/message/45799
But they all say from egypt. Not sent to?
i'm also having the problem, but i did apply the fix and even after that, i still have this sms. In my case is worse then people from t-mobile, because o2 dont have a "real time" or almost real time controll, which means that i need to wait the bill to see the crap. they dont have any controll for people who had plans, only pre paid. this month was 5 euros only with this ****..
i readed the posts on tmobile forum, its seems to be a program, but i'm not sure.. nobody is.
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i'm also having the problem, but i did apply the fix and even after that, i still have this sms. In my case is worse then people from t-mobile, because o2 dont have a "real time" or almost real time controll, which means that i need to wait the bill to see the crap. they dont have any controll for people who had plans, only pre paid. this month was 5 euros only with this ****..
i readed the posts on tmobile forum, its seems to be a program, but i'm not sure.. nobody is.
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Check ALL of your installed applications for any that have permission to send SMS messages:
http://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission.html#SEND_SMS
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Post them ALL here, then DELETE.
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Check ALL of your installed applications for any that have permission to send SMS messages:
http://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission.html#SEND_SMS
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Post them ALL here, then DELETE.
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i'll take a look and tell you back, but just more information: Before my MT4GS i had a Desire HD and i NEVER had this kind of problem with it. and so far i remember, i used the same programs on Desire HD, so.. it shouldnt be a programm problem, at least not which i had installed.
Now i'm using the virtual unity rom, which doesnt had the zipwhip thing, which the people on tmobile/tcom forum accused be the problem.
the programs that i used so far was: öffi, call meter ng, safewallet, ebuddy, foursquare, facebook, twitter, quickboot, sms back and restore, viber, whatsapp, heywire, adfree. I also had on the device but i dont use frequently: convertpad, currencyconverter, dein taxi, weather bug, androzip, mytaxi, barcodescan, scan life barcode, roboform, wm ftp client, db navigator, es explorer, skype, shazam.
and yesterday i also installed autorunmanager and super manager, to try to disable or uninstall the zipwhip thing.
i'll look the permissions on all this apps and i'll post here. The thing is, since i install yesterday a new rom and i didnt put every program back, can i see this on google market?
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Check ALL of your installed applications for any that have permission to send SMS messages:
http://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission.html#SEND_SMS
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So, i recovered the old rom backup with the old programs, took off my simcard and installed a few permission viewer programs.
The list from Permission Explorer to send sms permissions are:
brcmbluetoothservices (com.broadcom.bt.app.system), doubleshotandroidzipgroups (com.zipwhip.zipgroups.doubleshot -this is the one from zipwhip, which people think, that the problem is), dragon dictation (com.nuance.vsuite - no idea what is it),mail (com.htc.android.mail), messages (com.android.mms), messages app group tab (com.zipwhip.zipgroups.doubleshot.plugins.messages), messages widget (com.htc.htcmsgwidget3d), my account (com.nuanc.nmc.sihome), phone (com.android.phone), plugin sample(com.android.messagetab), scanlife(com.scanlife), t-mobile device carbon(com.zipwhip.devicecarbon.tmobile), viber(com.viber.voip), whatsapp(com.whatsapp), voice search(com.google.android.voicesearch).
it was kind of weird that scanlife, something to scan barcodes just can send sms, but i had this program since the desire hd without problems, so.. i'm not sure that could be the problem anyway..
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Well i did some tests with a prepaid o2 card (then i can check the credits) and after i uninstalled viber and whatsapp, restarted the cell, i still have the problem. Then, uninstalled the scanlife, restart, still the problem. Then i uninstalled everything with doubleshotandroidzipgroups, zipgroup, zipwhip.. and again restart.. credits didnt change, so its seems, people have right, this program cause the sms problem. but i can understand why not everyone had the problem, since in almost all roms (except the virtuous rom ported from desire s) had this software.
I asked to a few friends, who used android gingerbread, but not a MT4GS and any of then had this zipwhip programs or anything like this..
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So, i recovered the old rom backup with the old programs, took off my simcard and installed a few permission viewer programs.
The list from Permission Explorer to send sms permissions are:
brcmbluetoothservices (com.broadcom.bt.app.system), doubleshotandroidzipgroups (com.zipwhip.zipgroups.doubleshot -this is the one from zipwhip, which people think, that the problem is), dragon dictation (com.nuance.vsuite - no idea what is it),mail (com.htc.android.mail), messages (com.android.mms), messages app group tab (com.zipwhip.zipgroups.doubleshot.plugins.messages), messages widget (com.htc.htcmsgwidget3d), my account (com.nuanc.nmc.sihome), phone (com.android.phone), plugin sample(com.android.messagetab), scanlife(com.scanlife), t-mobile device carbon(com.zipwhip.devicecarbon.tmobile), viber(com.viber.voip), whatsapp(com.whatsapp), voice search(com.google.android.voicesearch).
it was kind of weird that scanlife, something to scan barcodes just can send sms, but i had this program since the desire hd without problems, so.. i'm not sure that could be the problem anyway..
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Well i did some tests with a prepaid o2 card (then i can check the credits) and after i uninstalled viber and whatsapp, restarted the cell, i still have the problem. Then, uninstalled the scanlife, restart, still the problem. Then i uninstalled everything with doubleshotandroidzipgroups, zipgroup, zipwhip.. and again restart.. credits didnt change, so its seems, people have right, this program cause the sms problem. but i can understand why not everyone had the problem, since in almost all roms (except the virtuous rom ported from desire s) had this software.
I asked to a few friends, who used android gingerbread, but not a MT4GS and any of then had this zipwhip programs or anything like this..
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Ok, so looks like you've tracked down the malware. WTF is a "zipwhip"?
Edit: Holy crap, just read their website. Might not be malware (or it might be), but definitely a braindead idea since it does weird multi-directional SMS insanity.
Anyway, the reason it doesn't happen with Undeadk9's rom is that he stripped that crap out of it.
Somebody at HTC and/or tmobile need to be FIRED for this one.
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Ok, so looks like you've tracked down the malware. WTF is a "zipwhip"?
Edit: Holy crap, just read their website. Might not be malware (or it might be), but definitely a braindead idea since it does weird multi-directional SMS insanity.
Anyway, the reason it doesn't happen with Undeadk9's rom is that he stripped that crap out of it.
Somebody at HTC and/or tmobile need to be FIRED for this one.
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i cannot say for sure, but the roms sense on crack and senseless still have this one (at least, until the roms from yesterday, because i downloaded then for a test).
The weird thing is that doesnt happen with ALL people. but tmobile is experiencing a lot of problems with this crap. but since i bought the cellphone in USA and live in germany and my operator here is o2, maybe they will say: isnt our problem and make me paid this 6 euros this time..
Nice to know what the reason was. Will stick to Undeahk9's roms then.
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i cannot say for sure, but the roms sense on crack and senseless still have this one (at least, until the roms from yesterday, because i downloaded then for a test).
The weird thing is that doesnt happen with ALL people. but tmobile is experiencing a lot of problems with this crap. but since i bought the cellphone in USA and live in germany and my operator here is o2, maybe they will say: isnt our problem and make me paid this 6 euros this time..
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Have tried with my operator. That was exactly what they said. They refereed to: http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/6619?start=75&tstart=0 Said follow the outcome, it is T-Mobiles problem or change to another phone.
Last month i wrote to o2, complaining about it and requesting a solution and from where or who this number was.. they gave me a credit after a few lines like: it could be cause by a bad software, blablabla, you are responsable for everything that you install on yout phone, blablabla, but since you are a good costumer and we want you happy, we will give you the credit.
Now i'm waiting the new answer about the problem, since i wrote asking for a SOLUTION and not just a credit and they just said we will give you a credit and thats it.. they didnt offer me to put the number in a blacklist, or any kind of solution. then i'll try to at least become the credit back. and if they dont give me, i'll complain with t-mobile USA, because this is a big mistake and could be avoided.
did you tried contact with tmobile us?
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Last month i wrote to o2, complaining about it and requesting a solution and from where or who this number was.. they gave me a credit after a few lines like: it could be cause by a bad software, blablabla, you are responsable for everything that you install on yout phone, blablabla, but since you are a good costumer and we want you happy, we will give you the credit.
Now i'm waiting the new answer about the problem, since i wrote asking for a SOLUTION and not just a credit and they just said we will give you a credit and thats it.. they didnt offer me to put the number in a blacklist, or any kind of solution. then i'll try to at least become the credit back. and if they dont give me, i'll complain with t-mobile USA, because this is a big mistake and could be avoided.
did you tried contact with tmobile us?
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No I haven't. But I finally got compensation as goodwill. If if happens again I think I have to contact T-mobile.
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No I haven't. But I finally got compensation as goodwill. If if happens again I think I have to contact T-mobile.
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thats great. lets see what happen with me.
what i dont get it why it just happen with some MT4GS and not everyone who use one..
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thats great. lets see what happen with me.
what i dont get it why it just happen with some MT4GS and not everyone who use one..
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This puzzles me as well.
I've definitely checked, and rechecked with T-Mo to make sure i'm not having this issue, especially after reading through this thread and all the links provided.
Seems like many people are having the issue, yet many others are not.
Hopefully if people keep posting little details they come across about the problem we can eventually find a common link that binds together all the people having issues.
Stuff like this is of concern to me, and while I haven't been posting because i've had nothing else constructive to add, i've been keeping up and playing along looking for an opportunity to help.
Best of luck to all of you, keep sharing and we'll get to the bottom of it eventually.
Got no issues with the Zipwhip "Groups" software.
I can confirm that I've had this issue show up this month, and I'm using UndeadK9's AOSP Gone Crazy on Sense ROM. I don't run anything outside the norm for a superuser (memory manager, task killer, busybox, spare parts etc).
I have similar problems in my MT4GS. Soon after receiving the phone few days back, I started noticing the charges for incoming messages from Egypt on my online account. These messages never show up in the phone, I only see the charges on line. T-mobile officially announced (support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-2882) that they will not give customer any credit back for the messages, even though it is generated by some bloatware they installed on device.
These messages created $2 charged in 5 days...in this rate I would end up paying $12 to t-mobile for nothing. In fact, I found this forum while desperately looking for a solution. It is a t-mobile phone, it is a t-mobile service, it is a t-mobile installed bloatware and they will charge customers $12 a month. Is it sort of technique to force customers to signup for $10 unlimited text service?
Reading this forum gave me some hope. I guess I will have to root the phone and use Titanium Backup to freeze all ZipWhip apps. One of my neighbors said that he was successful in stopping these charges by freezing all ZipWhip apps.
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I have similar problems in my MT4GS. Soon after receiving the phone few days back, I started noticing the charges for incoming messages from Egypt on my online account. These messages never show up in the phone, I only see the charges on line. T-mobile officially announced (support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-2882) that they will not give customer any credit back for the messages, even though it is generated by some bloatware they installed on device.
These messages created $2 charged in 5 days...in this rate I would end up paying $12 to t-mobile for nothing. In fact, I found this forum while desperately looking for a solution. It is a t-mobile phone, it is a t-mobile service, it is a t-mobile installed bloatware and they will charge customers $12 a month. Is it sort of technique to force customers to signup for $10 unlimited text service?
Reading this forum gave me some hope. I guess I will have to root the phone and use Titanium Backup to freeze all ZipWhip apps. One of my neighbors said that he was successful in stopping these charges by freezing all ZipWhip apps.
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if you need some help, just write to me. i removed everything from this **** on my cellphone, even before i change to another rom.
my problem was: i HAVE unlimited text messages on my cellphone (its already on my o2 contract) but this DOESNT cover the international sms, whats mean that problably t-mobile also had something like it, you will pay for unlimited sms but not international one, whats mean, that you still have to paid for their crap work.
i didnt know that they said, that they wouldnt give the money back.. people from usa, who had this issue should suit tmobile. i would.
Hi again!
I have a bricked S3 that I have to send back to Verizon, as they shipped me a new one that is working
I am concerned about them being able to access files and texts that are saved on the internal phone memory. Since I cannot get my phone started to delete these, is there anything I should be concerned with, or anything I can do to make sure they will definitely NOT be able to access these?
I am anal when it comes to stuff like this, I have a ton of saved passwords and everything... all it takes is the wrong person to be the one handling my phone there
Any ideas/advice is appreciated!
Meliette said:
Hi again!
I have a bricked S3 that I have to send back to Verizon, as they shipped me a new one that is working
I am concerned about them being able to access files and texts that are saved on the internal phone memory. Since I cannot get my phone started to delete these, is there anything I should be concerned with, or anything I can do to make sure they will definitely NOT be able to access these?
I am anal when it comes to stuff like this, I have a ton of saved passwords and everything... all it takes is the wrong person to be the one handling my phone there
Any ideas/advice is appreciated!
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I doubt they will look at your files. They most likely determine the issue, fix it, and then get the phone ready to be used as CPO.
there is nothing you can do if it won't boot, short of microwaving it or using a hammer. It is possible that someone could J-Tag the phone and restore operation and possibly find your porn, but unlikely that Verizon will bother taking the time.... unless its really good porn.
I was scared for a bit too when I returned my old phone, but nothing happened. I'm sure it's not allowed. And even if it was it's just unnecessary effort, Samsung gets ALOT of phones in, it would be a huge waste to crawl through every one