Case with kickstand? - Epic 4G Accessories

I know, the damn things not even out yet, but I figured I'd get the ball rolling in this section.
Coming from an EVO, I have to say that one of the things I'll miss most when I get the Epic is the kickstand. Has anyone seen cases with kickstands built in? Obviously not for the Epic yet, but for any phone? Do quality kickstand cases even exist? I've seen one or two on google, but they looked like crap. What do you think the odds are that there will be a kickstand case out for the Epic, considering it's being marketed as a multimedia powerhouse?

I've seen a pretty good looking case for the iPhone that had a built in kickstand, and some for the iPad, so I think that they'll make a kickstand case for the epic soon after it comes out.

BodyGlove made one for the Hero.
I made one my self for the hero out of a cheap-o snap on case I got of Amazon for 89 cents. Cut out a section of the back and hinged it with a piece of a paper clip...it was "Epic"

Kcarpenter said:
BodyGlove made one for the Hero.
I made one my self for the hero out of a cheap-o snap on case I got of Amazon for 89 cents. Cut out a section of the back and hinged it with a piece of a paper clip...it was "Epic"
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You never updated that thread did you

chococrazy said:
You never updated that thread did you
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HAHA Nope, completely forgot about it.
I'll go home tonight and at least snap a few pictures of it. It works pretty well, except the kickstand sometimes pops out when you try and pull it out of your pocket and gets hung.

Usually 3rd party case makers will release something like this, I know the orginal Droid had a case made with a kickstand long before the Evo.

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That looks hilarious, but I'd actually use it.

I do believe that Samsung's official case for the phone will act as a kickstand. I can't post a link to it, but googling "ET-0D700BLGHPW" should pull it up on Samsung's website.
"The magnetic snap closure enables you to lock your phone in or convert your case into a horizontal desk top display."

hydralisk said:
This is all you need:
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Perfect!!!!!

blakehess11 said:
I do believe that Samsung's official case for the phone will act as a kickstand. I can't post a link to it, but googling "ET-0D700BLGHPW" should pull it up on Samsung's website.
"The magnetic snap closure enables you to lock your phone in or convert your case into a horizontal desk top display."
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That case is incredibly ugly, and it wont work on the epic anyway.

yea, doesn't seem like it will work with the keyboard...and it's fugly.
i forgot about the iplunge, but it doesn't look like it'll be comfy in the pocket.

I'm reviving this thread. Just got my epic, and I want a kickstand so bad. I've done some googling and I can't find bunk.
Any news on this topic? Surely the iPlunge isn't our only solution.

chiefchief said:
I'm reviving this thread. Just got my epic, and I want a kickstand so bad. I've done some googling and I can't find bunk.
Any news on this topic? Surely the iPlunge isn't our only solution.
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The charging dock is tilted at the same angle as the EVO's kickstand. Only problem is, the dock's headphone jack doesn't work. Other than that, it works great. It's just.... not as portable.

Yea, I'm looking for something portable.
I did some research on tripods. They're more portable, cheaper, and can elevate the camera to eye level (as well as being posable).
Due to my account restrictions I can't post the links. Go to dealextreme[dot]com and search "Cell phone tripod".

hydralisk said:
The charging dock is tilted at the same angle as the EVO's kickstand. Only problem is, the dock's headphone jack doesn't work. Other than that, it works great. It's just.... not as portable.
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I'm pretty site I saw a thread or two about using the headphones with the dock.
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jacjyd said:
I'm pretty site I saw a thread or two about using the headphones with the dock.
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The audio out on the samsung desktop dock will not work until 2.2 is released for the epic.

Found it!
Ok, here you go. Easy, portable, keeps your phone standing.
It's not going to work with the keyboard out, but it's purty durn cool.
www amazon com/Crabble-Innovative-Folding-Blackberry-Similar/dp/B00278ZQBQ/ref=pd_sim_dbs_sg_4

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Got Tired of Waiting on the Car Dock...

so I made my own...
My 1990 Jetta finally has navigation!
***REQUESTED HOW-TO***
First I make a car-specific mounting bracket (sorry, neglected to take many pics of this process):
Then I make the phone specific cradle:
Very cool man... what wallpaper is that?
Nice mod man. How did you make it? Can you post a little tutorial and can you make it rotate 90 degrees?
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Very cool man... what wallpaper is that?
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It is the Earth Live Wallpaper found on the market or at this forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623654 He just set the globe size pretty high so it zooms in I think.
Actually, the background was the World Tour app, but the one you guys mentioned is even cooler; just added it.
Sure, I can post up some of the "in process" pics for ya.
It doesn't rotate right now, as I never felt a reason for that, but if I were to source a hinge that rotates 90 degrees, it would. Thinking of that, I had a phone holster a few years ago that did that...
I'll post up those pics here in a few...
Velcro just in case eh? I really need to make one of these.
Dual lock.
Nice job! Looks like that will do the car dock nicely
Car dock spotted in this video at 1:10. http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2010/02/10/google-nexus-one-car-kit-on-show/
That is too EFF-ing cool man.
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Does anyone else see the 'Androd logo' in his pics?!
OrganizedFellow said:
That is too EFF-ing cool man.
Does anyone else see the 'Androd logo' in his pics?!
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I noticed this too.
Great job SANTilt. (the cloth padding and rounding the edges are nice finishing touches).
OrganizedFellow said:
That is too EFF-ing cool man.
Does anyone else see the 'Androd logo' in his pics?!
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LOL, that's awesome!
Glad you guys like...
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LOL, that's awesome!
Glad you guys like...
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YEAH!
You made me think of making my own.
Simple enough.
But what did you use for the backing? Is that aluminum? Cause it looks like you bent it fairly easy with the pliers.
OrganizedFellow said:
YEAH!
You made me think of making my own.
Simple enough.
But what did you use for the backing? Is that aluminum? Cause it looks like you bent it fairly easy with the pliers.
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Both the mounting bracket, and the phone cradle are made out of sheet aluminum; the mounting bracket is approximately 2mm thick, while the phone cradle is approximately 1mm thick.
The aluminum is strong enough to retain its shape, but flexible enough to allow the phone to slip in and out of the cradle and hold it there for years - I've used this method for five years now.
You add an external speaker and charging capabilities and you get the money I was going to give Google.
Really though... good job, very clever. I do wish that Google would hurry with theirs....
This is the one I'm using: Bracketron PHV-200-BL
http://www.amazon.com/Bracketron-PH...e-Holder/dp/B0014S5FVQ/ref=dp_cp_ob_e_title_1
Target has this one for $19.99. When I bought it from Amazon a month ago it was $12. It's $13.88 now. So far, it works really well and I'm really happy with it....until the official dock comes along. It's made mostly for regular GPS's but works with the Nexus One just fine without an issue.
EDIT: Just saw they have the PHV-202-BL for $5.73 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001B2PPYC/ref=oss_product
This is hardcore.
xombe said:
You add an external speaker and charging capabilities and you get the money I was going to give Google.
Really though... good job, very clever. I do wish that Google would hurry with theirs....
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Bluetooth is my external speaker, and the car charger provides my charging capabilities. You'll notice in the initial design pics, I blocked off the areas surrounding the phone that would cover a control button, or socket. I do that so I can still use the phone when it's in the cradle.
Thanks for the compliments.
mark925 said:
This is the one I'm using: Bracketron PHV-200-BL
So far, it works really well and I'm really happy with it....until the official dock comes along. It's made mostly for regular GPS's but works with the Nexus One just fine without an issue.
EDIT: Just saw they have the PHV-202-BL for $5.73
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Looks good...Is it very secure with air-vent mount? and whats the difference between the 200 vs the 202?
This is exactly what I had invisioned in my head what I would make if I did it myself. Very nice man. Where did you buy the metal at? Think menards, or home depot carries it?
mesajoejoe said:
This is exactly what I had invisioned in my head what I would make if I did it myself. Very nice man. Where did you buy the metal at? Think menards, or home depot carries it?
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I bought it at an industrial metal supply shop (they sell to the public also) for around 8 bucks for a sheet (approx. 4'X5').
I've never seen it at Home Depot. Never been to a Menards, sorry.
Thanks for the props!

Car mount for Nexus

Compatible car mounts for the nexus anyone? suggestions with links plz ;D
http://tinyurl.com/yavd7jm
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http://tinyurl.com/yavd7jm
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Instead of being a total XXXX and posting that, you could post a link to something that is known to work well
Of course I googled it, I get results for all kinds of stuff. Reason why I ask a question on forums is so I don't wind up with some piece of XXXX Chinese plastic toy that breaks in a month.
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wait for their official car mount to be released.
soooo sorry, didn't realize you were a "pro"
here, try this one:
http://tinyurl.com/yesl8he
http://electronics.shop.ebay.com/i....=p3286.m270.l1313&_odkw=&_osacat=73353&bkBtn=
I use the 202 version with I got for 6 bucks on ebay...but seems the seller doesn't sell this anymore. It's a vent bracket. I like it cause it keep the phone cool while using GPS. Luckily I've no use for the heater down here in So. Cal.!
Did you even bother looking at the topics on the first page?
Lazy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=656280
Red MacGregor said:
http://tinyurl.com/yavd7jm
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GREAT INFORMATION!
Thanks!
Red MacGregor said:
soooo sorry, didn't realize you were a "pro"
here, try this one:
http://tinyurl.com/yesl8he
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*woot*woot*
Another great insightful link post by Red MacGregor
Thanks Man!
If you had a PayPal link, I'd donate to you!
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Compatible car mounts for the nexus anyone? suggestions with links plz ;D
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I have this for right now until the official car dock comes out from Google.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150409885541&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
Can get pretty expensive but varies from end user to end user.
http://www.proclipusa.com/
Pictures of a Nexus One mounted with a ProClip
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6070937&postcount=12
Everything else seems to be universal spring loaded vent car docks.
Another thread on car docks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6070832#post6070832
XFreeRollerX said:
Instead of being a total XXXX and posting that, you could post a link to something that is known to work well
Of course I googled it, I get results for all kinds of stuff. Reason why I ask a question on forums is so I don't wind up with some piece of XXXX Chinese plastic toy that breaks in a month.
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I've got one for you:
http://tinyurl.com/ykpd6d9
Well since the official car dock is out and its pricey+does not allow you to use a case...I just purchased this one off ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290412307083
$7.69 shipped.
Any reviews?
britoso said:
Well since the official car dock is out and its pricey+does not allow you to use a case...I just purchased this one off ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290412307083
$7.69 shipped.
Any reviews?
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I had one that looks identical to this.
It worked great for about 25 minutes...
The little gears that allow you to move the arms in and out (to grip the phone, and at least in the version I had) are terribly cheap and broke off with very normal use on the very first day. Now it's completely useless as there is no tension from the arms to actually hold something in place.
YMMV, tho.
That thing just looks atrocious! For such a slick device I would never use such a monster of a mount... it would consume the whole phone... and how do you charge?!
bmcclure937 said:
how do you charge?!
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The bottom part is open and I already have a 12v-USB cable.
I came from the iPhone 3GS and had a Griffin Window Seat for it. It works nicely with the N1...even with the case on it.
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britoso said:
Well since the official car dock is out and its pricey+does not allow you to use a case...I just purchased this one off ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290412307083
$7.69 shipped.
Any reviews?
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It also features a can opener and doubles as a neck brace!
Davidusr , might i ask what case you are using ?
Davidusr , might i ask what case you are using ?
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I bought it from TMo...TMo branded. Its clear, only protects the sides and back. Leaves the top and bottom unprotected. Not the best, but better than nothing.
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davidusr said:
I bought it from TMo...TMo branded. Its clear, only protects the sides and back. Leaves the top and bottom unprotected. Not the best, but better than nothing.
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Is it a wrap around removable case or just a clear adhesive shield on the phone?
I currently have the Vroom case from Case-mate, and it would not fit into the iPhone 3GS holder for this mount correctly. I also tried it without the case and it would not stay secured. Earlier today I ordered a Gelli case from Case-mate which is said to have a little more of a snug fit, and I am wondering if this one may fit better. I am hoping it will give it just the little bit more to keep it inside the holder.

Case with Kickstand

Has anyone seen a case with a kickstand for the DHD, I have seen a similar product for the SGS.
Maybe the DHD is too new to the market?
yo, just wondering for what purpose? i've just bought a Breffo Spiderpodium which is £15 and can double as a holder for your next device or any other devices and even in your car, i will see how it goes and let you know if you want
Humz said:
yo, just wondering for what purpose? i've just bought a Breffo Spiderpodium which is £15 and can double as a holder for your next device or any other devices and even in your car, i will see how it goes and let you know if you want
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So I can stick my phone on the table at work and watch a video handsfree, while eating my delicious dinner at the same time
StellaDel said:
So I can stick my phone on the table at work and watch a video handsfree, while eating my delicious dinner at the same time
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Hehaha!! Nice, None out so far, I'm keeping my eye out on the Desire HD accessories, they're pretty rare at the moment, cos the phone is pretty hard to get a hold of, if I come across one, I'll be sure to let you now.
sounds like the Spiderpodium would be ideal for you...obviously it is a bit more to carry around...but it does look pretty cool!
Humz said:
sounds like the Spiderpodium would be ideal for you...obviously it is a bit more to carry around...but it does look pretty cool!
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I have a fear of Spiders, there is no way I could have that on my desk, er I mean the table in the canteen, although it would do the job
And untill one comes out, you can always make one yourself. You just need some cardboard like packaging of coockies or something, a knife, some tape and some folding skills...
and that one, you can even put in your wallet
it doesn't always have to cost a lot of money, and having a seperate kickstand (wether it's cardboard or plastic) gives you a lot of more options to choose from when looking for a pouch or case (where the kickstand is no longer a criteria)
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And untill one comes out, you can always make one yourself. You just need some cardboard like packaging of coockies or something, a knife, some tape and some folding skills...
and that one, you can even put in your wallet
it doesn't always have to cost a lot of money, and having a seperate kickstand (wether it's cardboard or plastic) gives you a lot of more options to choose from when looking for a pouch or case (where the kickstand is no longer a criteria)
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Or maybe I could get my mate to fabricate one out of empty Stella cans
Not sure you ever got your answer, but here you go:
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/htc-desire-hd-hard-case-with-kickstand-hc-k550-p27766.htm
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was researching this very same thing and came up on this thread, so I figured I'd help you out.
Chaptop said:
was researching this very same thing and came up on this thread, so I figured I'd help you out.
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That is EXACTLY what I was looking for, just ordered it now 2-3 week wait but I'm not complaining
Ordered
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Looks very good
I can't believe that there are only a few cases available. Can't find anything useful on Amazon Germany....
EDIT: Page is available in German too. But it looks some kind of thick. Paulplex please rate it for us!
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I can't believe that there are only a few cases available. Can't find anything useful on Amazon Germany....
EDIT: Page is available in German too. But it looks some kind of thick. Paulplex please rate it for us!
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mobilefun.co.uk take orders from foreign customers and they have loads of cases including this one. Excellent retailer as well!
Unortunately they don't ship to the US
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Unortunately they don't ship to the US
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Would of thought there would be plenty of places in the US to get this case from, you normally get everything before we do
Also ordered. Hopefully I can get it within 2 weeks so I can enjoy it in the plain, but I'm guessing not
I got an email from Mobilefun saying my order is shipped!
I ordered my case yesterday
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I got an email from Mobilefun saying my order is shipped!
I ordered my case yesterday
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Hurumph; it's still awaiting delivery when I checked my order
...still, I will take some photos and put up a quick review when it arrives: I'm certainly looking forward to it - I'm using an old Nokia phone stand which isn't really big enough for the Desire HD. The phone keeps slipping out over the back of it
Been keeping an eye on the stock status before I ordered one. Expansys and HTC website says they're not in stock till 24th march. Sorry to be a kill joy! Guess I'll have to wait till they're in stock before bothering to order mine.

Kickstand case

Anyone here get this yet? I just bought it after being disappointed with the tpu cases i've gotten
http://androidcommunity.com/lg-g2x-kickstand-case-accessory-looks-pretty-nifty-20110420/
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If i had a desk job id be all over that. Only problem is it doesnt seem like you can charge while its on the kickstand.
It has cutouts for all the holes you need
http://www.expansys-usa.com/lg-lg-optimus-2x-kick-stand-case-209192/
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Landscape mode?
Mine was shipped today through expansys. I'll post up some pics when it arrives.
It'll be like dressing up a corpse since my stupid phone is dead
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Landscape mode?
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I read that you can set it up horizontally and vertically.
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Would be nice if someone made a battery door replacement with a kickstand in it.
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Mine was shipped today through expansys. I'll post up some pics when it arrives.
It'll be like dressing up a corpse since my stupid phone is dead
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yes finally.mine was shipped too. it was back ordered for awhile. looks like the rep kept his word sucks about your phone bro. ill post a review up when it gets here as well
I just order mine... Let's see how it is.....
I spoke to a rep and it definitely does landscape mode
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I spoke to a rep and it definitely does landscape mode
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its funny cuz i wondered this after ordering. thanks for confirming!
rizzxx7 said:
Anyone here get this yet? I just bought it after being disappointed with the tpu cases i've gotten
http://androidcommunity.com/lg-g2x-kickstand-case-accessory-looks-pretty-nifty-20110420/
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this is my first time seeing that one. i went to the tmobile store to buy my hdmi cable(of course they didnt have) and i saw the kickstand case. its similar to the one for the g2. i wasnt impressed. so ill hold out. i have some accessories coming in the mail today. zagg, tpu, and hard case for now.
I have it. It's really a nice case - fits the phone perfectly and allows just a hint of the stainless trim to show adding a bit of style. The edging around the corners is a bit raised for protection. It leaves the entire front of the phone exposed though so if you put it down on it's face or drop it it'll get damaged. The kickstand isn't rotatable, the wide end props the phone up vertically and the edge horizontally. In the vertical position the phone's really low in relation to the surface its on. The kickstand itself feels a bit flimsy so I don't know how long it'll last. I use it as my "indoor" case. If I'm taking the phone out I use the Body Glove case which provides much better all-around protection.
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this is my first time seeing that one. i went to the tmobile store to buy my hdmi cable(of course they didnt have) and i saw the kickstand case. its similar to the one for the g2. i wasnt impressed. so ill hold out. i have some accessories coming in the mail today. zagg, tpu, and hard case for now.
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They sell this case in T-Mobile stores?
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I was thinking about buying this stand, what do you guys think? It's from:
http://www.gogostand.com/
It fits in your wallet, and has 3 different configurations to allow for portrait and landscape orientations.
i posted somewhere on here that daydeal has the same case,with a cover that protects the front of the phone.....for less money. sorry i couldn't catch you all before you bought yours. mines a nice,snug fit.
http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=52415&cat=66
only difference is that it doesn't have the metal strip on the back.
edit...ok, expansys dropped their price a couple bucks since last time i checked. i still like daydeals better though.
Can someone that has the case post pictures please? I would like to see it on the phone before committing 23 dollars Thanks!
Here ya' go...
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That's exactly what I wanted
ooohh thats sexy. cant wait for mines to get here!!!

Infuse case with built-in kickstand

Has anyone seen or found a case for the Samsung Infuse that has a kick-stand in it?
This would allow you to place the phone on a table and not have to lean it against things to watch movies or whatever.
Thanks
I've seen them on e-bay.
Cranky...
there does not appear to be anyone currently offering them ...I too have seen them..but can not seem to find one now
Yeah the only ones I found with anything resembling a kick stand was the one or two that had that plunger looking thing you attach. Thanks
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This is mind boggling. I thought for sure a kickstand case would be out by now.
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They can easily make a battery back that houses a kickstand just make it a little thicker.
Bronk93 said:
This is mind boggling. I thought for sure a kickstand case would be out by now.
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We need to make one.
Popsicle Stick and Glue - Have at it.
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Popsicle Stick and Glue - Have at it.
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bahahahahaha
Trying it now.
I haven't seen one.... Got a link? That's more the kinda case in looking for.
Sent from my Samsung Infuse 4G - 1.6ghz
Found this, not really a case with kickstand, looks like you set your phone in it and use it like that. Battery charger, with kickstand made for Infuse. Sorry, I'm new to this Xda, so they wont let me post a link. Go to CellularAccessory.com and search Samsung Infuse Kickstand.
Bronk93 said:
This is mind boggling. I thought for sure a kickstand case would be out by now.
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I just use a $2 black metal business card holder from Office Max, works great!
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http://www.cellularaccessory.com/et-cgpk002gsta.html
This is the link. Its a battery charger that you set your phone in, designed for the infuse
Infuse case with kickstand
Bronk93 said:
This is mind boggling. I thought for sure a kickstand case would be out by now.
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If you had looked two messages up you would have seen that I had posted that they are on E-Bay.
Since nobody seemed to want to do a search for themselves, here's the link:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CASE-SCREEN-PROTECTOR-BELT-CLIP-HOLSTER-INFUSE-4G-/300598915882?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item45fd17732a
thanks, been looking for one.
Sprint has a very nice carbon fiber case with a built in kick stand for their sgs2. I know the screen size is the same as the infuse but I believe its thinner and the form factor is more curved, not sure if it will fit.
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Jep56 said:
I just use a $2 black metal business card holder from Office Max, works great!
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i have the exact same thing at home for my nightstand!
While it is not a case I found something that works well for me. I use 2 binder clips as it makes a great stand for me and I can keep it in my pocket for when I need it.
Take a Large Clip and 1 Medium binder clip.
The large one keep like normal while the medium one you turn both of the silver rings to one side so you have a backwards L with the back part sticking straight up.
Then take the large clips and clip it on the silver rings as clost to the black as you can.
This holds the phone very very well and I am able to watch movies during my lunch with a normal head set pluged into it. So this does mean my head truns some but not to much and it does not move at all. This works with or without the silicon ruber thing around the phone. With out the rubber you can also do it with the small and medium binders to make it even smaller. I think lifehacker has pic on doing this.
I hope this will help someone.
i keep this in my wallet..
http://www.gogostand.com/

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