Salesguy in the store when I bought it said the spec he had said it had one... but there is no app for it... what app or where can I get one to try to access this "hidden" perhaps hardware?
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Maybe try searching for the captivate fm radio apk and see if it works. Look at the i9000 forums. They have a link to all the apk's
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I tried installing the fm radio apk from the galaxy s using the SDK. It would not install. AT&T may have taken it out the ability. Who knows.
I pulled apart the apk files and I have two xml files anyone know how to read Android XML files?
You probably need an external antenna for it to work. Possibly a wired headset would work.
AT&T's Fuze didn't have the radio software until a firmware update. (or load cabs found on xda-dev) Either way, the app wouldn't try to tune the radio without the special htc-headset connected. This htc headset included an antenna.
theres an att radio app, would that work? I also heard the shipped headsets that come with the phone should have an antenna. Again, i could be wrong.
Has anyone figured this out 100%?
I'm very seriously considering this phone, but would really like to have FM radio with me.
Either ATT did not install the app for it because they want you to use up all your data using the att radio app; which says that it uses a ton of data so make sure you have a data plan. It may also have a monthly charge idk.
Or the hardware was removed with the front facing camera (maybe they were on the same module or something).
I hope the hardware is in there and it just needs the software to run. The headphones they give you have 3 rings so they could be 4 conductor I guess.
Stereo left and right, voice, and antennae. Or the 4th could be ground.
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Either ATT did not install the app for it because they want you to use up all your data using the att radio app; which says that it uses a ton of data so make sure you have a data plan. It may also have a monthly charge idk.
Or the hardware was removed with the front facing camera (maybe they were on the same module or something).
I hope the hardware is in there and it just needs the software to run. The headphones they give you have 3 rings so they could be 4 conductor I guess.
Stereo left and right, voice, and antennae. Or the 4th could be ground.
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I believe they are four conductor for TV-Out functionality.
Radio doesn't use data
the ATT radio application sure does. Just try to launch it and it will tell you so. It is using internet radio.
We are also talking about thwe FM radio which wouldn't use any data. So either they hid it from us so we use thiers (and pay for data plus maybe a monthly fee). Or they removed the hardware so we are really f'ed.
I doubt ATT disabled it in software. The HTC Aria comes with a fully functional FM radio app, along with a bunch of featurephones (my wife's sony ericsson). Doesn't make much sense that they'd remove it for some marginal profits.
I'm betting the FM radio is in it.
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I'm betting the FM radio is in it.
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I agree. Cheaper to make the hardware all the same and just not support it.
no one has dismantled the phone yet?
You can be the 1st
Ok i work for at&t and i cannot find anything internally that supports the fm radio myths. Im far from any kind of app developer but anyone debunked this? Im ok with internet streaming but cant find any good local terrestrial radio apps. Any roms or apks to fix this?
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I installed the Htc Fm Radio Cab from this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521356 to work on my Sprint Htc Touch Pro2 but i can't get it to work the cab installs good and everthing but theres no sound being outputted
I've installed the Radio as well and cannot get any output. Tuner seems to not be able to find any stations. Tried multiple headsets but no joy.
I very well could be wrong, but I remember on the Specs for the Original Touch Pro, that if you were lucky enough to get one that had the FM Radio Built in, you had to use the Mini USB headphones that came with the Touch Pro. I still have mine from my TP, but have not tried it yet on the TP2.
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I tried mini usb with installed htc radio. But no luck on tp2 from Sprint. I need this radio very much.
same problem on the Verizon TP2 using the 3.5mm jack...radio does not find any stations, and manually tuning does not provide any sound.
The Sprint and Verizon models do not have a FM radio. I guess they had to make room when they made the phones both CDMA and GSM.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=2016&id2=1792&id3=1751
Look under the "Analog Radio:" row.
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The Sprint and Verizon models do not have a FM radio. I guess they had to make room when they made the phones both CDMA and GSM.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=2016&id2=1792&id3=1751
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didn't they say the GSM one didn't have an FM tuner also and yet this program exists to open it up.
Do we really think the FM radio hardware isn't in there or is it just a possibility that it is disabled?
What is the exact actions of the program? I not a programer, but I do understand how a lot of it works. To control the device the program is probably trying to write to various memory locations. If it's there, we just need to know what the memory map is. Based on it's actions I may be able to guess about what's happening. Also, I believe that writing to the wrong memory locations could create problems.
Any programers out there please feel free to correct me on this stuff.
Both programs (htc and power radio) seem like they work, but neither receives a signal. I can't tell if they seem to be actually running the FM hardware or if they are just "running blind" not actually doing anything. I know when I tried this on my Touch Pro, the software would error out, like the FM hardware wasn't even there. I know there's a spec sheet out there that says the FM radio is not supported, but at what level? Hardware, software or both? If it's software, there has to be a way around it.
Well if it makes a difference this is what the registry said on my Sprint TP2
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\FMRadio\FMPlayer]
"Channel"=dword:00015694
"AudioPath"=dword:00000000
"Deemphasis"=dword:00000000
"Stereo"=dword:00000000
"Threshold"=dword:00000009
"Band"=dword:00000000
"FMRadioFirst"=dword:00000000
"WaitTime"=dword:00000000
"MemSought"=dword:004e2000
"DelayUnmute"=dword:000005dc
"SupportWheel"=dword:00000000
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Lets get this working would be great!
I found out the FM radio for the Pro was integrated into the Bluetooth chipset. If that's true for the TP2 as well then once we get a teardown we should be able to find out if it's in there. I couldn't find a teardown for the GSM TP2. If someone can find it then we can probably make a good guess if the hardware is there. If it is again part of the same chip as the Bluetooth then I would bet a week's paycheck that it's the same chip in the CDMA variant.
I posted over on ppcgeeks and a response i got from a regular post says you need a gsm only phone in order for it to work.
if I'm not mistaken, the hardware isn't there, so you're wasting your time
Please read the posts. The FM radio in CDMA versions of TP2 does not work. Latest available information seems to indicate that the code to initialize the FM tuner during boot is either not there or blocked. (probably greedy careers trying to push users towards "data plan" oriented music services)
There is a sticky post on top with a link and further info.
just curious - i've got a vibrant and for some reason Tmo chose to de-activate it
tks in advance
I believe the chip is IN the phone, but likewise, AT&T in their infinite wisdom has disabled it.
Please post an FM App
Very disappointing about this. Please post a working FM Radio app for Captivate. Even if we need to sideload
I'm sure someone will figure out how to enable it eventually
Why would they do such a thing? What harm does having FM radio do?
Anyone know how to fix this?
Probably because they want you to PAY for their streaming music apps, instead of having the free over-the-air FM application. hayesb2: be patient. Someone will figure it out. If you don't want to be patient, go hack it yourself
Umm...radi0chik - I'm not sure how my post was taken as if I was demanding a resolution immediately...so you do not need to advise me to have patience or tell me to hack it myself. I am perfectly fine patiently waiting for a solution for this just like everyone else.
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Umm...radi0chik - I'm not sure how my post was taken as if I was demanding a resolution immediately...so you do not need to advise me to have patience or tell me to hack it myself. I am perfectly fine patiently waiting for a solution for this just like everyone else.
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She WINKED, as in she's just playing with you. Sheesh.
It's still unknown... The advertisement of this through ATT or samsung about an FM chip is non existent.
As far as the developers have been going about this, there have been a lot of signs that it's not existent. If you go about the threads, there are some posts about complete tear downs. Putting the two tear downs side by side, the FM chip hasn't been seen in the captivate where you would find in the galaxy-s (I believe the layout of the PCB is slightly different, but they couldn't find any chip that consisted of the proposed chip).
Also, if you try out the eclair i9000 rom, the FM app is included; however, the application states it fails to start the fm tuner.
Just to bump this to the top, has there been any work on the FM Radio for the captivate or does nobody care?
i already have a galaxy S but bought a captivate because i prefer the design and it works on telstra here in Australia...but no FM radio is a dealbreaker for me, as i listen to the radio all the time.
if its the same hardware as the galaxy S, then surely it cant be that hard.
also have a samsung vibrant here which has also had the radio disabled...boy, T-mobile and AT&T are a real bunch of assholes.
AT&T truly sucks. Anyone that has the chance should run screaming as fast as they can.
As mentioned before, there are numerous other threads on this issue. No one can confirm that the phone has an FM radio - enabling it in software failed.
So until someone can prove it exists, most devs quit trying. Just saying that other SGS phones have it, doesn't prove the Captivate does; its mainboard is completely different then the SGS.
I just went from the Vibrant (Bell here in Canada) to Captivate (Rogers) as the Froyo update fried my Vibrant and Bell wont warranty the 16 day old phone as I bought it through a 3rd party retailer. so tomorrow going to Bell store and shoving the phone and the contract in their faces telling them to shove it.
as for Captivate im am missing the front facing camera and the FM Tuner too bad I loved the FM tuner while at work !
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I believe the chip is IN the phone, but likewise, AT&T in their infinite wisdom has disabled it.
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YA IK THEY BLOCKKK EEVVVVERRYYTHING! Im seriously thinking of switching to Verizon!
this doesnt seem to have anything to do with carrier im with rogers with the captivate and NO RADIO.
Dont forget that ALL cell companies are evil and the little ones are owed by the bigger ones. but dont blame them for stupid stuff the manufacturers are obviously doing.
I saw somewhere on XDA that users were excited that the Atrix has FM and that the Atrix is coming to att http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/motorola-atrix.jsp#fbid=UD87msbuCJZ but guess what, no mention of FM on att website! 'Cause they want everyone to pay for att radio.
The Motorola Atrix and the HTC Inspire both have FM built in and NOT disabled by AT&T.
I missed the FM radio my Tilt 2 had, as well, so I got one of these:
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Sony-Ericss...=140504706641&ps=63&clkid=7278726088471529708
It has FM radio built in and you don't need to have the phone connected to use it. Plus, you can use any headphones you want with it since the mic and phone controls are on the body. I prefer the in-ear stereo buds because they cut down wind noise on my mountain bike rides (and JVC headphones sound pretty damn good). My Motorola S9s were always moving around on my head and would plug up when sweat got into them. I paid $65 for it just 3 weeks ago. $49 is a steal.
I was hoping someone would figure this one out once and for all but I kidn of forgot about it months ago. Now this thread is back from the dead and I remembered how much I actually have ended up missing having an FM tuner! Boo!
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I was hoping someone would figure this one out once and for all but I kidn of forgot about it months ago. Now this thread is back from the dead and I remembered how much I actually have ended up missing having an FM tuner! Boo!
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.... This is why I bought an LG Quantum.
It has an FM radio.
And a keyboard.
And a flash camera.
And an awesome music player.
But I still like my captivate. I think it's funny that my $200 phone I bought on contract is now a backup phone for my $150 phone that I bought off contract. Hmm.
Hi! Does anyone know if it is possible to swap the top Lcd part of a european Tp2 on a Cdma board version? Will the 2 parts fit correctly when closing the slider? Will we be able to use the front cam when roaming in europe? Thanks!
If it was possable to fit (meaning if it was even possable for the board that would just plug in...) you still would have to deal with the boot up commands turning it on. Some where in the SPL it would need to be enabled. Never mind the software to use it.
Kind of like the FM radio on the CDMA TP2, it's there but, over all this time no one has got it enabled (one person claimed but, no proof yet).
Even if you could find the board and got it connected, I think the hard part is to enable it and get the software for it.
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Hi! Does anyone know if it is possible to swap the top Lcd part of a european Tp2 on a Cdma board version? Will the 2 parts fit correctly when closing the slider? Will we be able to use the front cam when roaming in europe? Thanks!
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my answer would be no because i think the camera connect to the motherboad, and i dont think you could switch the motherboard, i could be wrong tho
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Hi! Does anyone know if it is possible to swap the top Lcd part of a european Tp2 on a Cdma board version? Will the 2 parts fit correctly when closing the slider? Will we be able to use the front cam when roaming in europe? Thanks!
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Im pretty sure you can. However the camera will not work. The parts will not fit perfectly.
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Hi! Does anyone know if it is possible to swap the top Lcd part of a european Tp2 on a Cdma board version? Will the 2 parts fit correctly when closing the slider? Will we be able to use the front cam when roaming in europe? Thanks!
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Hi i have stripped my tp 2 and installed the camera(with the felx since original flex dnt have a socket to fit the camera)and installed rotastrain dialer. but still no luck.
i think it should be enabled from SPL or Radio. i have sim unlocked phone but cannot install patched radio it gives an error. please let me know your thoughts some times we can get spl or radio edited to work video calls.
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Parts fits perfectly.
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Hi i have stripped my tp 2 and installed the camera(with the felx since original flex dnt have a socket to fit the camera)and installed rotastrain dialer. but still no luck.
i think it should be enabled from SPL or Radio. i have sim unlocked phone but cannot install patched radio it gives an error. please let me know your thoughts some times we can get spl or radio edited to work video calls.
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Parts fits perfectly.
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Interesting... As it's been said before, HTC makes one main board for the TP2/Tilt2. Then everything else is plugged in or enabled via the SPL, kind of like the bios of a computer.
It should fit fine, as you found out but, enabliing it is a whole different story. Just like the FM radio we have been trying to enable on the US CDMA version of the phone and people have been trying from the release of the phone. It's all disabled in the software.
Getting it to fit would be the easy part, getting it to be enabled, unless your a major HTC programmer or OEM, is going to be the really hard part. Sad to say...
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Interesting... As it's been said before, HTC makes one main board for the TP2/Tilt2. Then everything else is plugged in or enabled via the SPL, kind of like the bios of a computer.
It should fit fine, as you found out but, enabliing it is a whole different story. Just like the FM radio we have been trying to enable on the US CDMA version of the phone and people have been trying from the release of the phone. It's all disabled in the software.
Getting it to fit would be the easy part, getting it to be enabled, unless your a major HTC programmer or OEM, is going to be the really hard part. Sad to say...
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Well... I thought installing HSPL will do the trick... any how i need to learn about spl and how to alter it. can you please tel me where can i get a start??? (i think)if they using one mobo then we can enable all the features since rhod 100 have all of them.
I was wondering the same thing and if I bought the eauropean version with the front camera already installed, will it work here in the U.S. ?
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I was wondering the same thing and if I bought the eauropean version with the front camera already installed, will it work here in the U.S. ?
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I don't think so... unless the operator support 2100 band. I think US networks are 1900...
are there any diff between qualcomm msm 7200A archi and 7600??? if anyone know about that??? Worldphone use 7600 and gsm version use 7200A... So i dont think that they use the same mobo....
Just curious... if someone did get the front cam working... what software would actually work with it?
Can/has it be used for video chat?
well the Tilt2 screen fits on a European TP2 board and vice-versa. Thing is that if you put the TP2 screen on the Tilt2 board, you lose the front cam functionality since it cannot be unlocked. Whenever you tried to open the front cam feature via the settings, a black screen is shown with an error message and then the volume gets messed up and you had to reboot. But definitely everything is working except the front cam.
This is literally the SAME issue as the FM Radio (which i so desire greatly)...
Somewhere, Radio/SPL something... they are disabled or missing the code to initialize/use these great and WANTED features... I offered to pay (in my jobless state) $40 to anyone who could modify whatever it was that needed modifying so i could get FM Radio, but thats almost 2 years ago now and still nada... problem with devs is new devices come out so quick they move on without a care to the "average joe" whos stuck on the phone they where previously developing for
Now, I know there has been a lot of discussion in the past, and I wanted to reply to a previous post, but my post count is not high enough (at least post count is more than a bragging right here).
At any rate, during my day job I work with software defined radios and am very interested in working with the radio on my Android phone. From my brief reading I understand that several phones (including my Atrix) include the Braudcom BCM4329 FM transceiver chip. Unfortunately these discussions have been fragmented across multiple device-specific threads.
My question is, has any serious development of an FM transmitter taken place? I see the main difficulty is obtaining hardware documentation, but it would be nice if we had a device-agnostic thread concerning a chip like the BCM4329. It would be nice to have up-to-date info from across XDA detailing the efforts toward utilizing one of these chips.
If documentation were obtainable, by whatever means, I would love to dive in and see what I can do. However, I am not prepared to fully reverse engineer the device.
So, is there anything new happening here?
So what you're saying is the FM reciever can be turned into a transmitter? If so, that is pretty cool! Expecially for in the car
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So what you're saying is the FM reciever can be turned into a transmitter? If so, that is pretty cool! Expecially for in the car
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Yes, at least the chip in question, the Braudcom BCM4329 is. The questions are:
Does this include all the hardware? Which devices (Evo, Atrix, etc)?
Can we get documentation?
There are of course many other considerations, but these are the main ones preventing further investigation.
However, my fear is that Braudcom will never provide the documentation.
Yes please! Count me and my Atrix down for fm transmitting! I wonder if this post might get any more attention in the Atrix forums. Possibly a dev request?
I've done a lot of research on this myself, and as far as I have been able to tell, it is possible with most chips but it takes a ton of development and causes problems when it has been done before. It has to be cooked into a kernel to make things work right. Most chips do have the capability, but it's almost not worth the time.
Sent from my CM7 SCH-i500
if it does have to be baked into the kernel then that would def be a reason to choose one rom over the others. I do think there would be a market for this. Not just the novelty. Even if it has to be used with a market app where they charge $5 or so. In the end it would still be cheaper then buying a fm transmitter on amazon.
I'm officially defibrillating this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725870
Full instructions are there one how to make the app, the problem is you have to reverse-engineer it for yourself.
actually it does exist
I flashed slimkat rom on my sony xperia sp a few days ago and on of the inbuily apps was a fm transmitter whoch actually worked usig the headphone cable as the antennae (as the fm receiver does) and it transmitted to around 10-15 feet and sound quality was quite good. Since then i have reverted back to cm11 but forgot to extract the apk and save it and am unable to find it elsewhere. So in conclusopn, such an app exists and works. Generically
can u share me your fm transmit app from slim kitkat?
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I flashed slimkat rom on my sony xperia sp a few days ago and on of the inbuily apps was a fm transmitter whoch actually worked usig the headphone cable as the antennae (as the fm receiver does) and it transmitted to around 10-15 feet and sound quality was quite good. Since then i have reverted back to cm11 but forgot to extract the apk and save it and am unable to find it elsewhere. So in conclusopn, such an app exists and works. Generically
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I've done a little AOSP building/roming on the Galaxy Nexus and I just picked up used SGS3 to use as an mp3 player. My question is, is it a doable operation to surgically remove all the cell components (drivers, etc) so that the device is no longer aware it has a cell radio? Right now I just use airplane mode with wifi on but I'd rather it just act completely like a GS3 version of the Galaxy Player.
When building AOSP for the Gnex I had to specifically extract the proprietary binaries for stuff like the CDMA radio and stuff. I'm assuming these are also proprietary binaries on the SGS3. Would removing them have the desired effect?
If this is possible, I could see benefit in doing this and releasing it as a "media player ROM". I can't imagine I'm the only one who would want to use the SGS3 for this.
I'll be upgrading soon and this is exactly what I had in mind for the gs3, I hope you get some insight as all i have is a file that disables the antenna.