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well..changing new phone soon~ and these r two giant monsters which i kept my eyes on it.
hd2, winmo 6.5, big screen, terrific snapdragon, and bla bla bla. well, i'm a diamond user so i've already getting used to WinMo. it attracts me because of its fabulous 4.3 screen and its processor. well, rumor says it can be upgraded to winmo 7 though.
droid, android 2.0, 16M colours and 3.7 screen, a lil higher resoloution compare with hd2 but lost in the side of inches, 0.6'. and heard that it's using a so called newer technology processor, Cortex A8. 550Mhz processor but the speed is almost same with the iphone. One big holding back is the Android which i'm not familiar at all. oh ya, the crystal talk attracts me too.
So, can somebody tell me the good and the bad between this two? XD kinda in dilemma though.
share ur information and comments here!
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well guys, added another ANDROID phone in between choices now~
the NEXUS ONE. well, kinda appealing to me..=)
really kinda bored with WinMo as HD2 is using wm6.5 which i'm using now in diamond too. the only attractive thing is the super duper big screen, while going off to android, i'm a little skeptical as i really never ever hold an android-based phone.
ok~ sony Erricson X10~ another rumor-said amazing android phone~ a very high resolution-screened phone and high megapixel. but, wonder it can be upgrade to eclair or not...
hard choices..>.<
regards,
billy.
Stay with HTC!!
I would choose Leo or Rhodium
this two articles about the Motorola Milestone (Droid) might help you in your decision:
http://smartphoneblogging.com/2009/12/review-motorola-milestone-droid-android-2-0/
http://smartphoneblogging.com/2009/12/review-motorola-milestone-droid-hardware-impressions/
I have written both reviews, and especially the android 2.0 review should give you a good impression of what android offers on the Motorola Droid.
I wa using windows mobile devices since the mda magician, and switched to android (htc hero - i wrote a 5 part review series about the switch to android: http://smartphoneblogging.com/tag/htc-hero/) and didn't regret it. Android is really a great os, and if you get an htc android device you have xda devs support too, so you could also consider getting an htc hero or wait for the nextgen htc devices. I wouldn't get an HD2 at this point, because wm just isn't competitive the way it is right now, and nobody knows if wm7 will change anything.
I'm sure the Android OS is great but I believe it's some what restricting in allowing the user to go above and beyond the typical customizing.
If both are supported by xda, then that variable can be excluded.
But the variable that has everyone curious is the fact that WM7 is coming and the HD2 is in the lineup of devices that get a free upgrade to what might some are anticipating is Microsoft last chance in keeping there 8% market shares alive.
This might be an apple and oranges like comparison which typically means one of two things:
1) very easy choice
2) very hard choice
I would go to the HD2 world of things. Keep in mind with the fact that this device being fresh on the market simply means patience is needed before everything gets ironed out by the fantastic chefs here in this xda community.
Good Luck with it all.....
Lot could depend on your carrier & location. Even if you buy unlocked, it may not have 3G like the HD2 in the States right now...
I'm crossing over to the Nexus ONE!
well guys, added another ANDROID phone in between choices now~
the NEXUS ONE. well, kinda appealing to me..=)
really kinda bored with WinMo as HD2 is using wm6.5 which i'm using now in diamond too. the only attractive thing is the super duper big screen, while going off to android, i'm a little skeptical as i really never ever hold an android-based phone.
hard choices..>.<
Would you consider adding the X10 to this list?
I am considering all the above phones too, but my preferance for now is the X10.
It would save me starting what would basically be a replica of your post......
could anyone layout in terms of usage as well? i'm an engineer who basically deals with attachments from email (ms excel, word, powerpoint, pdf, etc) - maybe a bit of editing would be a plus =)
HD2 looks nice with the big screen + integration with microsoft, kinda lean me over to it but supposedly there must be 3rd party apps that can go with android, is there? how bout iphone?
love the part on phone tweaking too...so, any suggestion guys?
thanks!
-phone noob-
sneasel.. depends on wat u need actually.. n i dont really know whether android has those 3rd party or not as i'm winmoer XD but seems like hd2 suits u though.. =)
yup!
...and im officially a HD2 user! ;D
Dont go for any wm devices
look man ill put it straight. windows mobile have no sense of ownership of there own brand. They are lazy bunch of ppl out to make profits out of ****ty operating systems. I would recommend you to go with android operated systems cuz they are so much better, refined and have a sense of ownership not of what they create n you can see that on how well there operating systems look and operate. PERIOD
HTC systems are great but they are a waste when they're with windows mobile.
hurmm...from the looks of it, you are quite right, htc do have a great system...on android, i've never used one, so dont know anything bout it...since i got HD2 on my hand, hoping cud put in android to try em...
well...is like they say, what suits one, that will be the best~
Now that the HD2 is for a fact now coming to T-Mobile, and the Nexus One looms over head. What should I pick?
I love Android and WM. No doubt about it. I've been in both areas of rom development. I just cant decide. Since I can only get both on subsidy, 200 vs 180 isn't that big of a deal. I am not at all a new comer to this, and I just want to know from both perspectives. Since which ever I pick I will be happy.
My Needs:
- Battery that will last all the way to the night.
- Support(Both have them I know, I used to run a rom list for the HD2)
- Style (Both are sexy)
- Speed (Both are 1ghz)
- Ram, and efficient use of it
- Applications (I did not want to use the godawful word "apps")
- The feel in your hands
- Age
- Browser (I already know how awesome WM opera is) I have a large distaste for server side rendering since its cheating.
- Practicality of functions (like how well does a certain thing work, like the camera and speaker and call quality etc. .)
- Room for improvement (rom side)
They aren't exactly my needs but its a guideline that can help. Just provide your incite.
Anyone? I could use some incite .
here you go
htc stated the nexus one isnt made to be put in pockets...ppl have been complaining about cracked screens and so forth. if u plan on having ur phone in your pocket then get the hd2.
multitouch on the hd2 is much better than the nexus...has something to do with the nexus one screen
in terms of rom development i believe that windows mobile will yield the most in potential.
But be wary...if you are wanting the windows 7 upgrade for your hd2, hold off until microsoft says whether it will be possible. I know this is a deal breaker for some people
Hmmm, I forgot to list, hows the pocketability of the device?
pocketability? whats that lol?
I've no personal experience, but from everything I've seen and read, if you can carry an iPhone, you can carry this. While the HD2 is bigger, the size difference isn't drastically different between the two.
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pocketability? whats that lol?
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I think "how easy is to put it in your pocket"
I would go for Leo because WM
I am not Andoird fan...
Lol, whats up with WM users and android?
Nothing really, nothing personal
I just think that WM is more solid OS for business environment, Android is too young now...
Perhaps in the future I can consider it but now now
I get you. Have you had any experience with this phone?
Also, what improvements has xda brought us?
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htc stated the nexus one isnt made to be put in pockets...ppl have been complaining about cracked screens and so forth. if u plan on having ur phone in your pocket then get the hd2.
multitouch on the hd2 is much better than the nexus...has something to do with the nexus one screen
in terms of rom development i believe that windows mobile will yield the most in potential.
But be wary...if you are wanting the windows 7 upgrade for your hd2, hold off until microsoft says whether it will be possible. I know this is a deal breaker for some people
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I'm pretty sure that HTC meant that you shouldn't put the phone in your BACK pocket. I have my phone in my front pockets all the time. Also the phone slides into your front pockets real easy like.
It's really Android vs. WM.
I personally would choose Android. You want many/good applications - Android has them. On WM, you find an application for pretty much everything you want, but the quality of the applications is just MUCH better on Android.
And moreover, nobody is going to develop anymore for WM6.5 when WP7S is out. The Android Market is growing fast - WM's Marketplace is even shrinking and also outside of it, there's not much going to happen.
"Pocketability": Both are good (very thin, the Nexus is a bit lighter though, but 1mm thicker)
So that's my answer: If you don't need that huge 4.3" screen or dual LED flash, or a certain feature that only WM provides - get the Nexus One (or better: The HTC Desire).
I've had both and I am currently waiting for the HD2 to come out. I like the Nexus, but the response of the touch screen is a pain sometimes. I also like the hardware buttons on the HD2. Meaning, if I need to make a call, just hit the call button.
I love how the Nexus IS the google phone, so google integration is smooth. It does all the google maps/sync/voice etc nicely. The android market is nice, but the applications there aren't that great. The only thing I have downloaded that wasn't a widget and really use is slacker radio.
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Then you'll be very disappointed with the HD2, I'm afraid... except if you're into things like PSX Emulators etc., those are really great on WM.
I am into Emulators and such lol. I have a source for WM applications just as I can get a source for android applications. I could care less as long as I have a good mobile experience. Applications are cool, but some I don't use. Most of the apps im gonna get are like Google Maps, and maybe the market MySpace app(Android or WM).
I am very familiar with the Nexus One's development and its reminiscent of the G1. What has kind of made me split my decision and leave me here is the fact that all these little problems are cropping up with the Nexus, like the touch screen and the Dust, and just all the other little things.
I just need an argument from both sides to help me decide better. Right now I'm in the middle, purgatory.
I would go for the HD2. While I like both OSes, WM is still my preference. That being said, with Android being open source and WM not, it will only be a matter of time before Android is fully up and running on the HD2, the best of both worlds. There isn't a lot of WM porting going on these days, and I'm not sure if its legal, so with the Nexus one you are stuck with Android, whereas with the HD2 you will likely have a choice.
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I would go for the HD2. While I like both OSes, WM is still my preference. That being said, with Android being open source and WM not, it will only be a matter of time before Android is fully up and running on the HD2, the best of both worlds. There isn't a lot of WM porting going on these days, and I'm not sure if its legal, so with the Nexus one you are stuck with Android, whereas with the HD2 you will likely have a choice.
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I read the thread about the android for it, it seems they are stuck.
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I am into Emulators and such lol. I have a source for WM applications just as I can get a source for android applications. I could care less as long as I have a good mobile experience. Applications are cool, but some I don't use. Most of the apps im gonna get are like Google Maps, and maybe the market MySpace app(Android or WM).
I am very familiar with the Nexus One's development and its reminiscent of the G1. What has kind of made me split my decision and leave me here is the fact that all these little problems are cropping up with the Nexus, like the touch screen and the Dust, and just all the other little things.
I just need an argument from both sides to help me decide better. Right now I'm in the middle, purgatory.
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Well, I say Nexus One, or HTC Desire, unless there's something you need that it can't do.
The quality of the applications on Android is really much better, but there are some things on WM that you don't get on Android, and you should check that before you make your decision.
(and of course, there are also things on Android that you don't get one WM)
Look at the things you're doing and search whether all of that is possible on Android/WM. Then decide.
The problems with the Nexus One? They're the same on the HD2. The touchscreen has the same issues, but nobody cares, cause there's no multitouch applications on WM anyways.
Everything I want I can do on both devices. So thats the reason I am stuck between the two. I wanted the HD2 before the Nexus One came out, but the price was really high. Then the Nexus came out and I was eying it as well. Now that both devices are available to me at reasonable prices I am stuck.
Hi All
Been playing with Desire on weekend, and uderstood that WM 6 is totaly out of date, I loved Android from first hour of use it has a lots of programs in Android market with very eyecatching UI. Is there a possibility to have Android on HD2 ? I heard somewhere that in some countrys there is a 4G Android version of HD2.
Are there technical possibilitys for Android in HD2 in the future, or I need thinking of changing my LEO.
Thank for Any opinion
Martynas
hey next time use the search, from what i gather the soonest release would be in 6 months but its likely that the phone wouldn't be fully functional, for example the wifi or camera might not work some people see a year or so but only time will tell.
Crossed wires
You have been misinformed if you believe WM6.5 is out of date.
It is state of the art and has many benefits, especially when it is underneath the HTC sense interface.
MartynasRex said:
Hi All
Been playing with Desire on weekend, and uderstood that WM 6 is totaly out of date, I loved Android from first hour of use it has a lots of programs in Android market with very eyecatching UI. Is there a possibility to have Android on HD2 ? I heard somewhere that in some countrys there is a 4G Android version of HD2.
Are there technical possibilitys for Android in HD2 in the future, or I need thinking of changing my LEO.
Thank for Any opinion
Martynas
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Xaddict said:
You have been misinformed if you believe WM6.5 is out of date.
It is state of the art and has many benefits, especially when it is underneath the HTC sense interface.
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i hope that was your atempt at humor
fabian21 said:
i hope that was your atempt at humor
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so, please tell me, in which aspects is winmo 6.5.x out of date?
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i hope that was your atempt at humor
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Ok I don't know about state of the art but take a hit of the ROM in my signature. And to MartynasRex download 'openmarket' check out some of those Apps and games, well ive got a fair few off the games list in these forums that keep up with the iphone!
I wan't android too, and WM is indeed out of date... There are no Apps, you get everyday freezes, its out of date... Android have 50000 Apps, and it fast like a charm...
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I wan't android too, and WM is indeed out of date... There are no Apps, you get everyday freezes, its out of date... Android have 50000 Apps, and it fast like a charm...
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i think there are even more apps out for winmo than for iphone and android!
(unfortunately??) they're not concentrated at one single spot, like the appstore.
and what aspect makes winmo out of date?!
just saying "it's out of date" isn't a serious argument
I agree with WinMo 6.5 being way out of date, especially now compared to Android & Iphone. Winmo hides behind HTC Sense but if you strip that away its still just boring WinMo. WinMo 7 should be lots better though but I still get lots of fun out of my HD2, Loads of apps available to download from certain websites and you can play around with this thing to your hearts content, I mean I have flashed so many ROM's now its crazy but I love the fact I get to choose how my HD2 looks...... Be great to have android on this thing though.
windows
i thing you are right whit windows mobile is out of date . hd2 is great best ever for me , find your way try soft and trick on xda and you can make a perfect phone. you can also wait for evo 4g whit android but i think this phone is to big
the hd2 size are limit for bring on pocket . its a choice, many are happy whit iphone 3gs me after 2 days i sell mine i keep my omnia and wait for tmo hd2
and now i love hd2
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in which points is the iphone (android) superior to winmo? multitasking? customizability? look&feel? speed? features? extendibility? application-memory-limitation?
and once again the same old story. use forum search.
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in which points is the iphone (android) superior to winmo? multitasking? customizability? look&feel? speed? features? extendibility? application-memory-limitation?
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Nafi33 said:
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concerning what?
iphone (android) means "iphone and/or android"
I ACTUALLY PEFER WINDOWS 6.5 WITH HTC SENSE MORE THAN ANDRIOD O.S. TO BE HONEST THE ONLY REASON WHY I LIKE THE ANDRIOD IS THERE APPS. I LIKE THE HTC HD2 BECUZ I CAN MAKE THE PHONE JUST LIKE I WANT IT. I WANT A IPHONE LOCKSCREEN WITH A WINDOWS MOBILE 7 INTERFACE AND A PIC OF A WATER PIPE MAKING A WATER PIPE SOUND EVERYTIME I TURN ON MY PHONE WELL THATS JUST SICK AND ESPECIALLY PRETTY MUCH HAVENT SEEN A PHONE THAT IS SO CUSTOMIZABLE ITS CRAZY. I HAVE TO SAY I DONT LIKE THE GAMES SOME ARE TO IPHONE STANDARDS BUT MOST ARE LADY KAKA . LETS ALL ADMIT ITS REALLY NOT ABOUT SELLING THE FASTEST DOPEST HARDWARE ITS ACTUALLY THE SOFTWARE. PEOPLE BUY IPHONES WHY?? BECUZ THERE USER FRIENDLY BUT MAINLY THE APPS AND ACESS TO CONTENT. SAME THING WITH ANDRIOD PHONES. BOTTOM LINE IN THIS DAY AND AGE GIMICS OR NEW HARWARE FEATURES(CAMERA,VIDEO RECORDER,WIFI,) WONT WORK ANYMORE ITS HOW MANY APPS THAT ARE IN THERE VIRTUA STORE THAT SUIT YOUR NEEDS
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I wan't android too, and WM is indeed out of date... There are no Apps, you get everyday freezes, its out of date... Android have 50000 Apps, and it fast like a charm...
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Being Android user for about half year now, i can say it's crazy unskinable. And about apps i can say most of them are bull****, some wallpaper apps, puzzle and copycat apps of others. Also keep in mind that many of the apps are not working on every android, they give you constantly Force closes everytime.
But at the end it ain't bad os, but not superior. Winmo need's some small update of 6.5 with better system optimization of buttons for better finger experience.
Regards. Gjizaqin
@ gjizaqin You are a troll, sorry to deliver these bad news to you.
www.youtube.com/user/exclusivegslick
Go see how to use android the real way. Sub while you are at it, I'll allow your trolling there.
Btw android has over 55k apps and it already outsells iphone OS. Windows is outdated in every possible way, and until win 7 mobile releases they are dead at least in the US. Thx.
Please go and learn how to research before buying a product, then you wont buy a device and then start crying its "out of date" and be asking for another OS to be ported to it.
I would say WinMo is not as pretty and sometimes unstable. But it's only unstable because it can do so many things.
It would be cool to use Android on this though. I think Android is going to be too much for WinMo7 to overcome.
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Being Android user for about half year now, i can say it's crazy unskinable. And about apps i can say most of them are bull****, some wallpaper apps, puzzle and copycat apps of others. Also keep in mind that many of the apps are not working on every android, they give you constantly Force closes everytime.
But at the end it ain't bad os, but not superior. Winmo need's some small update of 6.5 with better system optimization of buttons for better finger experience.
Regards. Gjizaqin
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I tried two Android phones The Hero wich I sold and the Nexus One (still with me but will sell it very soon).
Android is Good,very good but in matter of applications and Especially Memory management WinMo beats it.
The HD2 is so much more customizable
Help me to choose! The main thing is to choose between WM or Android. Plaese give me some pieses of advise
HTC Desire! It is more compact, lighter, has AMOLED screen.
Most importantly, it has the modern Android 2.1 (soon 2.2 Froyo), which offers so much better user experience than the old WM 6.5.
Go for Leo!
Windows Mobile in combination with powerful 1ghz processor is amazing!
And that big screen is so nice
Android is too young and limited yet
HD2 is one of the most amazing piece of hardware kit I've seen in a phone in the last couple of years. Get it even if it's just for the build quality.
Desire is the way forward my friend.
Think of it like this:
Desire is a beautiful highway with multiple exits.
HD2 is a dead end in a crappy neighbourhood.
How interesting!
Question for me too! The fact that Android is so very nearly on the Leo isn't helping!
Take it from someone who has had both, well, I got rid of the HD2 for an N1(The N1 is essentially the Desire..)
I loved the huge screen, it was beautiful, I hated WinMo. I had a G1 before the HD2, and the Shadow(Juno) before that. So I've experienced both OS's..
Personally, I love Android, I kept waiting and waiting for android to be ported to the HD2 but that didn't happen, until recently, and by then I had already gotten tired of it and traded the HD2+100 for the N1.
So I'd say go with the N1.
Comes down to what you want to use it for, if you want a business oriented phone go wimo. If your looking for something more polished and entertainment based go android. I prefer wimo over android personally. But I think I'm gonna make hte jump to droid when WP7 gets released. If I'm gonna have to pic an new school OS its gonna be Android. But for the next year or two I can see stayign with wimo. Once you get your prefered rom installed and get your tweaks installed its my HD2 on 6.5 is bullet proof. Haven't even reset it in 9 days.
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Take it from someone who has had both, well, I got rid of the HD2 for an N1(The N1 is essentially the Desire..)
I loved the huge screen, it was beautiful, I hated WinMo. I had a G1 before the HD2, and the Shadow(Juno) before that. So I've experienced both OS's..
Personally, I love Android, I kept waiting and waiting for android to be ported to the HD2 but that didn't happen, until recently, and by then I had already gotten tired of it and traded the HD2+100 for the N1.
So I'd say go with the N1.
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Totally agree...and with Android 2.2 FRF91 it just keeps getting better!
I prefer entertainment and I also own Topaz now and I think I had enough of WM. It lacks cool games and apps. Ive tried them all already, and I dont think that its wise to use these expensive and powerful devices only for making calls and sending sms, so android is better I guess, it has plenty of great apps.
Hello World,
I really don't understand why, but I know there are some people that want WP7 on their "old" devices like HD2 and that some great gurus on XDA are working hard to do it
Yet personally I just hate WP7 and I would like to know if the opposite initiative exists or would be possible : I would like to have good old WinMo 6.5 on newer hardware
I'd love to have something with at least 1 ghz horsepower like HD2, a big capacitive screen but also with a hardware keyboard like desire Z or HTC 7 pro ... running WinMo.
Do you know if there are some hacking attempts to make work wm 6.5 on new devices designed for wp7 or android ?
Cheers,
Nibbler.
Doubt it, WM is about the only OS versatile enough to launch a different OS altogether. I personally wouldnt touch 6.5 again with a 10 foot pole, I dont want to modify my phone for a week before it gains some functionality.
There are plenty of people, like myself, who would love to trade our HD2's for an HD7. Different strokes.
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Doubt it, WM is about the only OS versatile enough to launch a different OS altogether. I personally wouldnt touch 6.5 again with a 10 foot pole, I dont want to modify my phone for a week before it gains some functionality.
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i think you will find android is just as able to launch a diffrent os .... linux based os's like ubuntu can be easly launched from android
Linux on top of linux isnt that impressive... and linux itself is kinda a letdown as is. I mean I know that its capable of a bunch of cool additional features but just like android you have to tinker with it for forever before it's usable.
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There are plenty of people, like myself, who would love to trade our HD2's for an HD7. Different strokes.
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Give it time and I'm sure there will be plenty of people you can swap with
Old?
LOL, it´s funny how now we are used to call "old" to a year old device
I prefer Leo because I can switch between Android and WM and soon with WP7 and that´s the freedom I want on a phone.
Doubt WP7 will have the option to load WM but if I´m wrong probably then and only then I should consider it.
I agree, I would love to have the "option" to put 6.5 on a WP7 phone...just gota figure out that flash card thing !
Just because every app for 6.5 is not available for WP7 yet and won't be for a long time, basic stuff like RDC is not there yet and I need it.
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Doubt it, WM is about the only OS versatile enough to launch a different OS altogether. I personally wouldnt touch 6.5 again with a 10 foot pole, I dont want to modify my phone for a week before it gains some functionality.
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I agree with you on both points : WM is the most versatile mobile OS ... and yes most of the time you have to tweak it a lot. Yet from my point of view, WM as a core and some graphical user friendly interface above like Sense gives to the user "the best of the two worlds" : a powerful and tweakable machine but also user friendly out of the box
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Old?
LOL, it´s funny how now we are used to call "old" to a year old device
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I've also double quoted "Old" in my post
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I agree, I would love to have the "option" to put 6.5 on a WP7 phone...just gota figure out that flash card thing !
Just because every app for 6.5 is not available for WP7 yet and won't be for a long time, basic stuff like RDC is not there yet and I need it.
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Definitely
Now that I´ve tested WP7 on my leo I must confess I prefer Windows Mobile
Read my article tomorrow in the Portal to know more
Just to try to clarify my thought :
even if certainly difficult, would it be possible or totally unthinkable to "cross-flash" let's say a tweaked HD2 rom, with some touch pro 2 keyboard drivers cooked inside, over a HD7pro or Desire Z machine if the hardware between HD2 and HD7pro/Desire Z are quite similar ?
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Now that I´ve tested WP7 on my leo I must confess I prefer Windows Mobile
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I also think WM is just 10000 better and more powerful than WP7
Personally I just don't understand why WP7 is making such a buzz ... and even inside the techno-geeks people community
What makes me sad it is not that m$ has made WP7 ... (if some people are willing to pay to have a uglier and not customizable OS with less features, it's after all their choice ) ... what makes me sad is that WM a much more capable and versatile OS is dying
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Now that I´ve tested WP7 on my leo I must confess I prefer Windows Mobile
Read my article tomorrow in the Portal to know more
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One day working with WP7 on a hacked device gives you a firm base to run a compare of the two? I don't think so mate, that would be poor journalism at best.
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I also think WM is just 10000 better and more powerful than WP7
Personally I just don't understand why WP7 is making such a buzz ... and even inside the techno-geeks people community
What makes me sad it is not that m$ has made WP7 ... (if some people are willing to pay to have a uglier and not customizable OS with less features, it's after all their choice ) ... what makes me sad is that WM a much more capable and versatile OS is dying
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Eh, I agree except the uglier part. People for the most part arent members of XDA developers. Who wants a phone that you have to tweak for days before it becomes something functional? Maybe an XDA member. Who wants a phone that you still have to bust a stylus out sometimes to hit some menu options? Maybe an XDA member. I would trade all of that in any day for the most fluid UI, intelligent keyboard, and music interface on a phone to date.
The reason for this is ......... just because.
The HTC HD2 is an awesome phone, that should be the basis of any number of other phones. Its very hackable, its stable, it works well, its epically user-friendly and it doesn't have any significant downsides. Its also very easy to change the bootloader on and we've seen the effectiveness of MAGLDR and other options.
Asking why is sort of like asking why Linux exists. It exists because its something people find useful and interesting. Some people find it awesome to hack, some find it great to use. Most don't know about it and never change their phone in any way.
I'm personally waiting to see iOS4 running on the HD2. That will be interestingly epic.
Probably the reason is WM6.5 is pretty much dead, and WP7 isn't. You aren't going to see any new apps or new development for WM6.5. All the latest apps are going to be for iPhone, Android, and WP7.
It's kind of a shame, I think 6.5 seems quite fluid and finger-friendly on my Touch Diamond running Energy ROM. However, none of the games and apps I have for iPhone and Android are available for WM6.5.
z33dev33l said:
Eh, I agree except the uglier part. People for the most part arent members of XDA developers. Who wants a phone that you have to tweak for days before it becomes something functional? Maybe an XDA member. Who wants a phone that you still have to bust a stylus out sometimes to hit some menu options? Maybe an XDA member. I would trade all of that in any day for the most fluid UI, intelligent keyboard, and music interface on a phone to date.
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Just two points :
- In fact uglier or not uglier is just a matter of taste, so I wont argue on that even if I found the WP7 interface horrible ... The real point that is really ugly is that fact that m$ is becoming dictatorial and decided to prevent people to have the right to change it or customize it to suit their needs Personally I will never pay for an OS that will prevent me to do what I want to do. The OS must suit my needs, not the contrary
- And as for the tweaking ... if you take a phone like the HD2 WM+Sense, you have a pretty good power over user friendliness balance, certainly far far better than any of the WP7 devices...
zedd_D1abl0 said:
The reason for this is ......... just because.
The HTC HD2 is an awesome phone, that should be the basis of any number of other phones. Its very hackable, its stable, it works well, its epically user-friendly and it doesn't have any significant downsides. Its also very easy to change the bootloader on and we've seen the effectiveness of MAGLDR and other options.
Asking why is sort of like asking why Linux exists. It exists because its something people find useful and interesting. Some people find it awesome to hack, some find it great to use. Most don't know about it and never change their phone in any way.
I'm personally waiting to see iOS4 running on the HD2. That will be interestingly epic.
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I think you've maybe misunderstood me : I don't ask "why HD2 ?" because I also think it is by far the best smartphone on the market even today or why hacking which is more and more logical and legitimate when major companies try to restrict features as much as possible just to try to sell you a shiny new new revolutionary "copy & paste" upgrade a few month later...
My point is : for now I won't change my HD2, I don't think that I will find a better phone on the market in the near future...
I mean, hardware is improving and some really nice 1 ghz+ sliding keyboard like HD7 pro will be soon available... but for me WP7 is just a wobbly dumbphone OS that will prevent me to buy such phone.
But HD2 won't last forever ... so I was just trying to know if there would be a chance that the creativity of the xda gurus could be orientated to try to keep alive WM on newer hardware, as m$ certainly won't do it, as it is more profitable for them to push forward Wobbly Phone 7
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Probably the reason is WM6.5 is pretty much dead, and WP7 isn't. You aren't going to see any new apps or new development for WM6.5. All the latest apps are going to be for iPhone, Android, and WP7.
It's kind of a shame, I think 6.5 seems quite fluid and finger-friendly on my Touch Diamond running Energy ROM. However, none of the games and apps I have for iPhone and Android are available for WM6.5.
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And it's even better on a HD2 than on a diamond
The fact is that even if WM6.5 is dying ... there are still a lot more apps on WM6.5 than WP7 and you also find apps on WM that you won't find on Android or iPhone.
And developers are stopping to develop on WM6.5 because they think that there is no future...
But maybe if WP7 sales are very low, and power users still try to keep alive WM6.5 and show that they won't accept this forced regression ... maybe m$ will change their minds and they will give us back some power features, customisation and compatibility with WM6.5. After all, WP7 core is still windows CE based so it is just an artificial and arbitrary tie up.
They ditched all the easy access for a UI that's not terrible without a stylus. Fair trade in my opinion. I like 6.5 but I didn't like building up my hd2 with custom everything before I could call it functional. Complain about c & p all you want I never used it. I did however use the keyboard, the menus, the dialer, the SMS programs, email integration, etc. None of which could be considered useful if even functional on 6.5. I'll take an os i don't have to mod to make it awesome over one i can mod in a number of ways any time.