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HELP SOS!!! HELP SOS !!!

I need help urgently with my O2 XDAII.. i was loading a task manager prg after downloading the same.. http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/wisbar/download.html
(WisBar is the leading task management software(skinable) for the PocketPC.)
Just after running the program for the first time the PPC hardset itself wiping out all my data. When I restored from the back up file ..
I have three problems of very serious nature...!!!!!
1) When i did resotre from the back up file... it wont pick up the time and date and also still connects as GUEST and not with original profile. SO I am unable to syncronise the data.
2) It wont send/ receive SMS
3) The SMS inbox is all messed up... the sent items are in "deleted item folder" the received sms are in outbox folder... and i cant delet /move a single sms from any of the folders.
I tried to use file manager and deleting files from windows\ Messaging but it did not help at all. I tried delting files from windows..and i could not do that as i was getting messages which i cant understand.
Rest all programs are running fine without any aparant problems...
Can some one help me restore my handset...please....???
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Hello,
First of all, I'm not sure what's causing your device to Hardreset by using Wisbar, I have mine working perfectly. :?
What backup software are you using?
If using the pre-installed one you are bound to have some problems.
In my opinion, the best backup solution is Sprite Backup (not a free application but a great one).
I used to have the same restore problems with the included backup solution on my MDA (besides the backups where not compressed and it was not a selective backup/restore).
Next time try Sprite's Backup.
Google it!

As far as the active sync profile is concerned - simple delete the original profile on your pc and allow it to create a new one when you next connect. It will then sync all your data back again.

Help! backup MMS,SMS,email

hey have somebody a app for it ? (make a 1:1 copy of my mms,sms,emal)

I recommend SPB Backup: http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/backup/?en
It backs up to self-extracting file (ie you don't need SPB Backup to restore from them)
However, it is a commercial peice of software (although there is a 30 Day trial)
(NOTE: Backing up lots of email (especially with attachements) can take quite a bit of time with it)

give me your email and i will mail you a application it creates a backup file of mms sms mails call logs and events tasks and all but not your applications that you have installed in your phone and the best part is it restore all this even if you upgrade your rom in which the spb don't work and its a freeware

its a exe file which works on windows mobile and not on normal pc windows you can put it anywhere you want and when you want to restore it just click on the exe file and select restore where backup is coming select restore browse to the place where you keep the restore file and start it simple

mandy_bikerboy said:
give me your email and i will mail you a application it creates a backup file of mms sms mails call logs and events tasks and all but not your applications that you have installed in your phone and the best part is it restore all this even if you upgrade your rom in which the spb don't work and its a freeware
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I would be interested in this as well...what is the name of it?

hmmm
me too, what is the name of it ?

site www.dotfred.net the backup program is called PIM Backup
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Haven't used it yet but have read about it...still doesn't do MMS.

I too have been looking for something to export MMS messages and gave up not finding anything. So I created a makeshift one for myself instead:
http://wargolet.com/wm6
Check it out... hopefully it'll help you too!

WM6 address book/contacts deleted (after ActiveSync?) ?

Hi all,
First of all, I've seen F*!K, undelete contacts? - xda-developers, but I'm not sure it applies completely to me, so here it goes...
Somehow, all my contacts have disappeared - except for five: two on phone (and three others on the SIM). The only event I can think of, that may have caused this, is that I tried using ActiveSync on an EEE PC with one of those efw things active (which redirects all file writes to RAM), and no Microsoft Outlook installed.
I have found logs in \Windows\ActiveSync folder on the phone, called CtrlLogX.txt, posted the last entries here http://pastebin.com/f4ba24ed6 - however, the log refers to mypc1 (my usual PC, which also does not have Outlook installed, but never seemed to cause any problems like this), which is not the EEE PC above (that EEE PC doesn't seem to be referred to anywhere in these logs).
Additionally, I've found a pim.vol file, 580 KB, in the root of the phone, which if opened in a text editor, actually STILL seems contain old contacts... The phone has not been rebooted (I think) ever since that EEE syncing event (and some weeks before that)..
The SMSes still show contacts with names, however, when I click on the contact, it tells me "Confirm: This person is not in your contact list. Do you wish to create a new contact for this person?" I of course enter NO, because I'm afraid "yes" would overwrite the pim.vol file...
Can anyone explain what has happened, and how to possibly get the contacts back? In line with that, I'd also ask:
- Where are ActiveSync logs kept on the phone (that is, is there anything else than \Windows\ActiveSync\CtrlLogX.txt)
- How are contacts stored on WM6 (is it only the pim.vol file - or is there anything else? If contacts were saved as one file per contact, and if ActiveSync deletes these files - then would it be possible to undelete the contact files [given deletion on mobile device also works by deleting entries in partition table, but not zeroing the actual memory]?)
Thanks for any responses...

[bump] any help? Still haven't rebooted the phone - perhaps there is some precautinary measure I could take before rebooting? Already backed up the pim.vol...

[bump] ok... decided to bite the bullet, and rebooted the phone - still no contacts, but the pim.vol file is still as big as before... So what should I make of this - that the pim.vol is corrupt? How could I repair it (short of copying all human-readable contents inside by hand)?
Anyone know anyone at Microsoft that could share the structure of the pim.vol file, LOL
By the way, if this is NOT the forum to ask questions like these - could someone at least suggest a forum where I could ask about my problem?
Thanks...

You can backup the pim.vol file first. And then you can download a problem called "spb Backup". You can view the pim.vol by this software.

WM6 address book/contacts deleted (after ActiveSync?) ? - corrupt pim.vol
Secguard, thanks for your response!
secguard said:
You can backup the pim.vol file first. And then you can download a problem called "spb Backup". You can view the pim.vol by this software.
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I trieb Spb Backup briefly, but I simply cannot see how it can view the pim.vol file - it can backup personal information data which is in the pim.vol.
Well, I finally managed to solve my problem thanks to an old Sprite backup I had, which had an uncorrupt pim.vol file. Those contacts that did show up (mentioned in OP) were apparently added later - after the original corruption occured?..
Anyways, I used the PIM Backup software (which besides being freeware, also saves data in human-parsable CSV like format) to backup these "later" contacts; then I restored the old Sprite backup with an uncorrupted pim.vol file, and then I used PIM Backup again to append the "later" contacts to the uncorrupted pim.vol. Finally, used PIM Backup to backup this appended pim.vol file, and I am not worried about contacts data that much!
Well, just wanted to write a bit about what I've found out so far about similar problems - maybe help out other lost souls like mine Searching for "corrupt pim.vol" does indeed return quite a bit of hits - I should've thought about that phrase earlier
Part 1
First of all, I am not the only one who has had a problem with a corrupt pim.vol file (see also post 578 - PIM Backup; Delete Active Sync Relationship deletes my Contacts =(; ActiveSync 3.x Troubleshooting Guide - Missing Calendar, Contacts ...; contacts recovery after active sync; ActiveSync Deleted my phone contacts , when i removed the profile ...):
Question: XDA Orbit 2 - Lost Contact List. Please help - 4WinMobile.com said:
http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/phone-edition-general/16269-xda-orbit-2-lost-contact-list-please-help.html
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I did not have "clicked" an option that it synchronize the contacts because I do not have Outlook installed on my computers. I do not know what is the reason that all my contacts gone
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NEW PIM Backup v2.8 NEW - Page 110 - xda-developers said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299705&page=110
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ActiveSync was delete ALL of my contacts when partnership was broken. I’ve open this “empty” pim.vol via HEX-editor and FOUND ALL deleted phone numbers…
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Same as me - except those are most likely not leftover deleted contacts, but parts of the call log, as noted here:
All contact names are lost . . . - Motorola Q Forum | Everything Q said:
http://www.everythingq.com/forum/motorola-q/all-contact-names-are-lost-15016.html
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After doing a lot of digging aroung on Google and looking at my pim.vol file in notepad, it did appear I lost all my CONTACTS info. The names and phone numbers that were still in the file were my RECENT CALLS.
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So, if pim.vol gets corrupted and contact data is missing, nothing can retrieve the missing data - my uncorrupted pim.vol is some 700 KB, the corrupted one is some 500 KB - as said before, those contacts that can be seen from a hex editor are most likely recent calls. In that case, it cannot be read neither by PIM Backup, nor anything else that reads pim.vol the usual way:
pocketpc developer Re: Retrieve contacts from database(EDB) API said:
http://www.eggheadcafe.com/conversation.aspx?messageid=30928125&threadid=30554221
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Pimbackup is good (great, even) if you can access your pim.vol, but I can't (via the mobile device).
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In my case too - Pim Backup could only retrieve the same three contacts from the corrupt pim.vol as I got shown in Contacts (probably since it uses poutlook to read the contacts?) ..
The files pim.vol and cemail.vol seem to be central to contacts and sms messages:
NEW PIM Backup v2.8 NEW - Page 13 - xda-developers said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1204075#post1204075
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Everything is retrieved from cemail.vol and pim.vol used by tmail.exe and poutlook.exe
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WM6 address book/contacts deleted (after ActiveSync?) ? - corrupt pim.vol
Part 2
Now, pim.vol and cemail.vol seem to be special files - not files as such, but instead databases:
Reading pim.vol / EDB-File on a PC - microsoft.public.pocketpc.developer | Google Groups said:
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.pocketpc.developer/browse_thread/thread/a1bb6e70c6c34479?fwc=1&pli=1
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pim.vol is a CEDB/EDB database. Use CeOpenDatabaseEx2 to open the database and other related functions to read record from it. Refer to http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms923930.aspx.
In particular, "clog.db" contains the call log history.
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pocketpc developer Reading pim.vol / EDB-File on a PC said:
http://www.eggheadcafe.com/software/aspnet/30208939/reading-pimvol--edbfil.aspx
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I want to read the data from a pim.vol-file on a desktop-Computer. (In my case, this file is from a PDA running Windows Mobile 05) What I already know is:
- pim.vol contains all contacts, Appointments and Tasks
- the data is saved in a EDB-Database-Format
- the easiest way to read it out is through the POOM-API (on the Windows Mobile device itself)
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Is the specification for the file-format publicly available somewhere? If so, I cold try to write my own parser for this file format. Or is there already any PC-Application that I could use to read this data?
http://www.eggheadcafe.com/conversation.aspx?messageid=30208950&threadid=30208939
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The format is not published and here you have two issues - both the .edb
file format and also the PIM data layout. You'd be better writing a simple
service provider for the device (calling POOM) which you can query from the
desktop over RAPI or sockets etc.
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In which PIM edb database my inbox is saved said:
http://forum.soft32.com/pda/PIM-edb-database-inbox-saved-ftopict58079.html
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The volume is "pim.vol" (Actually, the volume is not pim.vol. - cemail.vol) You can use a database viewer (try one at http://www.smartphonedn.com/libraries/dbviewsp.html) or just enumerate all databases at this volume from your program to find the database you are looking for.
You need to use CEDB (not eDB) to access your email database directly. However, it is recommended to use CEMAPI and not CEDB directly. The internal format can be changed or database can be moved from release to release. So if you access the database directly your application will be broken in this case.
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pim.vol format? - Mombu the Microsoft Forum said:
http://www.mombu.com/microsoft/pocket-pc-developer/t-pimvol-format-1531518.html
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The best way is to use POOM on the device and write your own app to interface with this data that you can use to talk over your activesync connection to a desktop component. The underlying format is EDB for the Windows Mobile 5.0 pim database, the APIs for which are documented in the WM5.0 SDK, but you'll find it much easier to use POOM to do the hard work for you.
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How to read a pim.vol file - Stack Overflow said:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/554578/how-to-read-a-pim-vol-file
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There is no desktop based way to read vol files.
Vol files are CE database files which can be in one of two formats (CEDB, EDB). The pim.vol file is in EDB format. There is no desktop database libraries for these formats.
You can write a Windows Mobile application to export any vol file (it's not that hard). The problems you will have is that the pim.vol database table format is different between the different versions of WM.
If you want something to be WM version agnostic, you could use the POOM API, which is the WM native API for getting access to the PIM data. It's a lot slower than the direct database access tho.
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Corrupt pim.vol file - xda-developers said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298798
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What you will need to do is to downgrade back to the AKU level that you were at when you saved the pim.vol. Then copy the pim.vol back to your phone and sync with Activesync so that everything is updated...
From what we have found, pim.vol files cannot be used from other AKU roms. So, a pim.vol form 2.0 will not work with 3.3.
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Now, from all these it really does not seem that one can read pim.vol and cemail.vol short of programming an application for a mobile device. However, for pim.vol, one must mention user Sasha and his fantastic perl script that is a binary parser for pim.vol files:
pocketpc developer Parser for pim.vol said:
http://www.eggheadcafe.com/conversation.aspx?messageid=30999264&threadid=30208939
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I found the english text and numbers are plain text in pim.vol file. As result I made a small program that parse binary data well and gives tel numbers as result (first it gives numbers from last calls list and then contact list):
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The source is given in the post - and it even worked for me, for some corrupted entries - however, those are again, most likely call logs, and also, most of the stuff I got back was in the format:
Contacts Databasecol;12845087
so it didn't help me too much..
Also, one can use the great XdaUtils / itsutils command line utilities XDADeveloperWiki - Xda Utils, to browse the phone databases. Parts of the source mention:
http://nah6.com/~itsme/cvs-xdadevtools/itsutils/src/pdblist.cpp said:
http://nah6.com/~itsme/cvs-xdadevtools/itsutils/src/pdblist.cpp
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* on wm2005 the internal database api changed, and unfortunately the
* external database api was not changed. leading to a not working api
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Maybe that is why, when one executes "pdblist -v", one gets cemail.vol listed - but not pim.vol!! Thus, cemail can be browsed through these tools, but not pim.vol ("pdblist -v pim.vol" for me results with "ERROR: CeUnmountDBVol(pim.vol) - The parameter is incorrect."). However, all of the SMSes from cemail.vol - in fact all data from all acccessible databases - can be dumped and they are readable too (except this dump cannot be restored) from the command line by using:
Code:
pdblist -D -r>alldb.txt
alldb.txt will be some 2MB text file, which will also contain SMS text messages.. Apparently there are plans for these command line utilities to also offer restore:
http://nah6.com/~itsme/cvs-xdadevtools/itsutils/src/pdblist.cpp said:
http://nah6.com/~itsme/cvs-xdadevtools/itsutils/src/pdblist.cpp
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// todo:
// - add itsutils interface for wm2005 edb databases
// *DONE -> PoomInterface
// - add delete record function
// - add import database from text file function
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but who knows if that will get implemented..
Pretty much the same data given by XdaUtils (that is, cemail.vol yes, pim.vol no) can also be seen from dbviewsp (see above for link) running on the mobile phone.
It is possible to backup the pim.vol file on my phone directly - using a rename trick; but the same is not possible with cemail.vol:
Pim.vol for Contacts & Master Reset - PPCGeeks said:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=15671
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As far as i know you can copy the pim.vol file, but the phone will not let you paste it. I tried to do that with my cemail.vol file when I got my new phone so I could keep all my sms messages but it told me that the file is in use.
If you copied your old pim.vol file paste it in the new phone under file explorer/my device. if it wont allow you to paste it because of the old pim.vol file already in the new device, just rename the old file to pin then paste the new PIM file there and soft reset. after the soft reset you should be able to delete the pin file and you new contacts will be added
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The page Backup & Restore your Cemail . vol easily - xda-developers shows a MortScript that should theoretically save the cemail.vol file; it seems to work for some, didn't for me. Maybe because of this:
pocketpc developer Re: Backup / Restore cemail.vol said:
http://www.eggheadcafe.com/conversation.aspx?messageid=29338960&threadid=29338958
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You shouldn't try to directly backup/restore the databases because they contain links to Oids in other tables. Since Oids are assigned by the database engine and not persisted in a backup they will be invalid when you restore. You'd be better to use CEMAPI enumerate the accounts, folders and messages and persist in some format of your own choice, then use CEMAPI to write them back again. This would also allow you backup/restore across different OS versions.
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Well, that should be it - hope this helps someone..
Cheers !

Transfer data from WM to Android

Hi all,
I'm using O2 Atom Life (Windows Mobile), now I just buy one G1, and I want to transfer my data (contact + messages) to G1 but I don't know how to do it
Please give me advice
Thank

try sprite migrate
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-spritemobile-migrate-qiFz.aspx

oh thank
and i want to find an app that can use touchscreen to control some features (such as suspend, restart, ... like iHome on iPhone); do you know it?

As a note sprite migrate does not yet transfer sms if you have a WM palm phone or using the palm sms.

did you use it? Sprite said it can?
Sprite Migrate is the easiest way to bring all your mobile data over to Android.
Sprite Migrate can transfer your data from Windows Mobile, Symbian(Nokia) and Blackberry to Android. Currently we transfer Contacts, SMS, Call Logs and Bookmarks, with more content coming soon...
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I have, but again if you have the PALM thread SMS installed it won't transfer it. I have spoke to them about this and they said they will add it. The regular WM SMS should just transfer over fine.

GMKcz said:
try sprite migrate
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thank but I think this app not work for O2 Atom Life, do you know others?

What or why is not specifically working? I only ask because that is so far the only App I have seen to do what your asking for.

in my O2 Atom Life, when I press start to begin transferring my data, after the step "Finallizing...", then it stands up and don't process anything; it lags my phone; I waited for 10 mins and I had to reboot my phone

temp304 said:
thank but I think this app not work for O2 Atom Life, do you know others?
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I don`t , I just found thisone when checking new apps on market. I didn`t tryed that so please don`t PM me with questions
Another way could be transfering sms to some xml format and then import them via some android backup apk. Contacts, mails etc could be ported via ms office and then via gmail acc.

ok, thank you

temp304 said:
Hi all,
I'm using O2 Atom Life (Windows Mobile), now I just buy one G1, and I want to transfer my data (contact + messages) to G1 but I don't know how to do it
Please give me advice
Thank
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Consider to download "SMS Migrator" from Android Market

sorry to asking, there is no blutooth between windows & android

Try SMS Migrator http://www.androlib.com/android.application.org-baole-mainimporter-iCDt.aspx
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***SMS Migrator works well with around 1000 SMSes, if you have more than that number, consider to break into smaller files and import one by one***
Features
* A utility helps you to migrate SMS from almost of phone. Support exporting softwares: Missing Sync, iPhone-iSMS (free), Window Mobile SMS Import (free), Nokia PC Suite (free), MOBILedit, ipddump (free), custom,... (please contact me if you need other format).
Step by Step to migrate
- Step 1: Check your operating system of your phone first. Then download and install an exporting software that works with your phone:
* iPhone: iPhone-iSMS (free), Missing Sync, iSMSExporter (available from AppStore, please uncheck "Use AddressBook")
* Nokia series/Symbian: Nokia PC Suite (free)
* Window Mobile phone: Window Mobile SMS Import (free)
* BlackBerry: ipddump (free), Missing Sync
* Sony Ericson: MyPhoneExplorer (free - export to CSV format)
* Other phone models: MOBILedit (this software support almost of phone models,export SMS into XML format)
Free one works with almost phone.
- Step 2: Export SMS from your phone with installed software.
- Step 3: Copy exported file to the SDCard of your Android Phone.
- Step 4: Open SMS Migrator, configure carefully parameters (especially Export Software and Encoding that you had used during exporting process), and select your sms file on SDCard (don't forget to turn off USB storage for your SDcard on your Android phone). DONE
Step 1, 2 work on your old phone and PC (or Mac/Linux), step 3 works on your Android phone plugged on your PC, step 4 works with SMS Migrator on your Android Phone.
Notes
- If your phone is not supported by above software, drop me a few lines with the detail of your phone (such as phone model, OS, etc.)
- If you use other software to export your SMS, please contact me.

Not to take over the thread but I also have a question about this but mine is different than the previous posts.
What about when it comes to Calendar events how do you transfer these from WM to Android? I dont use exchange nor Outlook I inputted all these using my phone which I have hundreds of them, is there anyway to do this?
TIA

Zero_Shadow said:
Not to take over the thread but I also have a question about this but mine is different than the previous posts.
What about when it comes to Calendar events how do you transfer these from WM to Android? I dont use exchange nor Outlook I inputted all these using my phone which I have hundreds of them, is there anyway to do this?
TIA
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On your old phone sync with your google calendar. Its a type of exhange sync that google put up to make this easier.
info is here http://www.google.com/support/calendar/bin/topic.py?hl=en&topic=15305
and then once on your new android they will be pulled back down just fine when you setup your phone with your gmail account.

Backing up Mail Account settings?

Is there a tool that allows the saving and restoration of mail account settings.
Would save some time after a hard reset.

Try app Microsoft My Phone!!

You can use Makisu to store your mail settings in an xml file and use Sashimi to restore your settings after flashing.
http://www.winmo-experts.com/

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You can use Makisu to store your mail settings in an xml file and use Sashimi to restore your settings after flashing.
http://www.winmo-experts.com/
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I agree, I used the same method and I can restore the mail from zero to configured in 2 seconds

anhphe076 said:
Try app Microsoft My Phone!!
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Where do I find that Sync Point! Possible that in the German Version it is missing?

Niker84 said:
Where do I find that Sync Point! Possible that in the German Version it is missing?
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You can't backup your e-mail with MyPhone? Or are you looking for an extra option to sync e-mail setup information? AFAIK MyPhone will not only save your e-mails but your account information as well! But I'm not a big fan of MyPhone (it always messes up syncing with my PC), so I'm not sure.
YAAAAY! My 1000th post!

I have contacts, calender, tasks, sms, favorites, photos, videos, music, documents and storage card. Nothing more...

SPB backup does the trick for me!
I like the fact you can pick and choose what you can restore from a previous backup, hence if there where anything conflicting you can leave it out!
Awesome piece of kit!

spb backup can backup/restore the email-setting and/or just the emails?

That's a good question! +1

Yes it does!
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spb backup can backup/restore the email-setting and/or just the emails?
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When I first got it I wasn't sure but sure enough, After a hard reset and a full back up everything (and I mean everything) was back to how it was! great piece of kit!
Only thing I had a problem was had a couple of errors with SPBtv but still seemed to work fine.
So I Can confirm it will back up:
Registry
Mail accounts
Wifi settings/configurations
mail (both sms & email)
Bookmarks in Opera
and so the list goes on..
One word of warning, when it asks if the time is the same as on your phone, you need to make sure it is as only made that mistake once
Phone kept glitchin away till my next hard reset...
No long term damage done tho so all is good!
Well worth the money personally!

Is there no simple tool to back-up and restore only email account settings?

No tool? ;D

Okay. Wherre are the mail account settings stored.
Eg accounts and server settings?

SPB Backup works for me.
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SPB Backup
I installed SPB backup and had a play.
There is no option for backing up just mail settings.
Do I need to perform a system backup or email backup? Note I don't care about the emails, I just want the account settings.
When I do a restore does it give me more options?

you could use provisional xml to backup email only. It's a bit complicated but after you do it once you'll get the hang of it.

Not interested in the email.
After a flash I find it a pain having to re-setup my email accounts (3). Would be cool to just restore the settings only. They all sync via Exchange and IMAP so no need to backup.

Provisional XML backs up the settings, not the emails themselves

Thanks McKenna
Followed these instructions
Thanks for posting you guys, Complete noob to this,
1. So I install vinny's app ( Storage Card )
2. Copy & Paste Shogunmarks files to pc
3. Edit xml files to include my info
4. Copy to same folder as 1. on ppc.
5. After Hard reset just run Vinnys app.
from
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362684