Hmm, ok, I'm here to learn some new things about Mobile Operating systems and software, so I figured a good way to start learning is to ask questions. Anyways, I have an old GPS, a Mio C310x to be exact, anyone who has used it before know's its dead and no longer useful. So, I want to give it another "life" as a possible PDA, or mobile computer workstations. I wanted to know how I can install a new, clean version of WINCE, hopefully someone knows what I'm talking about. It currently has a copy of WINCE 4.2 installed on it. I managed to boot it into factory management menu and found UPGRADE WINCE. Upon entering that screen, I found UPGRADE WINCE FROM USB and UPGRADE WINCE FROM SD. Well, not knowing what to do, I went with USB, apparently Win7 doesn't like it and wont understand it, perhaps I'm missing something? Is there a special software I need? Any help will be much appreciated.
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I just got my first pocket pc in the mail yesterday. First off, I absolutely love it. I got the wizard - it was a very good price on ebay for the features, even if it is a couple years old (I think?). Regardless, it's a huge upgrade from a standard cell phone for a small price.
I've never used one before nor used windows mobile. It came with WM5 and I've managed to unlock and update it to WM6. I read somewhere that TNT.1437 was a stable release, so I installed TNT.1437 with TouchFlo. It seems fine, except I still get clocknot.exe notification every time I start (even after disabling auto update for time).
My main question is this - is TNT.1437 still a good release or is it getting old? If I remember correctly the thread hadn't had posts in a while. Is the newer TNT release near the top of the forum stable?
I am mainly looking for a stable release that won't mess up my calls. Even WM5 had huge improvements and features over my basic phone I had, so having the 'newest' software isn't really needed (although I don't mind it if it's stable).
Anyways, I'm just wondering if I should stick with 1437 or upgrade to something else before I start diving into it and installing my own apps and setting the phone up. If I do stick with it (or upgrade and still have the issue), is there a way to get rid of that clocknot.exe notification besides turning auto-update for time off, which doesn't seem to have worked? I also installed the trial version of memmaid as that was recommended in the same thread, it didn't find any notification issues.
Thanks in advance.
1st thing to remember is that it's not a smartphone. it's a pocket pc. Smartphone apps won't work on this (most at least) and vice versa although there are a few.
Smartphone's don't have touch screens.
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Here's the thread containing the latest TNT ROM and a lot of info on it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=367534
I'm using v1 of the last build and am having lockups on occation when the PDA is in standby. That said a lot of the posts indicate that sometimes you have to flash a rom several times or downgrade to a stock rom first before weird things go away. There was another post that suggested doing a soft reset followed by a hard reset after each rom is loaded to avoid rom instability problems. Also there was another post I read that said stability problems can be solved by using a specific utility (sorry name excapes me)that backs up the rom you just installed to your memory card and then reloading it from the memory card. None of this makes sense but I'm going to try these things if I can't get my lockup problem to go away with the latest build of TNT.
As for the notifications problem I fixed my through trial and error. Appearently there is a notifications queue or database that gets all screwed up. There are many tools out there (I used one called CheckNotifications) that let you fix the queue but in doing so you may break activesync and other automation. If found an app (FixASRunAt) that puts the neccessary entries back. I don't recall my exact procces for getting it working right but I do recall it took several passes at using both apps.
Good luck with your upgrade!
Welcome, I've had my wizard for two years flashed 5 or 6 roms, "its right" make good stable rom packed with useful software. I would suggest you read lots about any rom you install as if there are any problems its reported and usually fixed in rom thread.
If I might suggest Jaguar 4.0 rom, it is very stable and only a few programs leaving lots of space for you to test and add programs of your choice, you will want to try different programs. Some you stick with others will not be of use to you, the fun is in trying new things.
If you feel a little braver try the rom in my signature, I've had a few teething troubles but nothing major, anyway I can always change back.
Keep operator settings and instructions to hand, to make it easier when flashing, I also keep a list of installed apps so it is easier next time to remember what I use most often.
Finally welcome, there's now turning back now, it's addictive you know!
It most certainly is addictive.
Thanks for the tips thus far. I have one major question left - seeing as how there are so many ROMS out there, should I ever want to change to another one due to problems with the current one, or just to experience it, is there an easy way to keep program data and settings saved? There are certain third party programs that I would like to keep on the unit regardless of which ROM is running, so I'd like to be able to simply install them again and restore them to the state they were at with the previous ROM. I'm not sure how WM software works.
So far with TNT.1437 installed, I've just had a few problems, some of which may simply be the fact I'm new to WM and don't know what I am doing. It froze once or twice but that was it. It tends to run fine. The biggest issue I am wrestling with now is wifi connection. It always attempts to connect to previous wifi signals even when I am in a different location. If it would work as a laptop does (connect to a NEARBY wifi signal that you have provided a key for) then that would be great. But it keeps trying to connect to the campus network when I'm at my apartment, so I have to manually go in and figure out how to stop that and get it to connect to the apartment one here (out of like 10 options, which I only use one). Then I go to campus and I have the same issue and have to go in and make adjustments again. However, this is probably a WM issue and not a ROM problem.
As far as saving data or settings, I usually either back up the appropriate files to storage card or install to Storage card and just reinstall after hard reset. I don't think any back up utilities work if you change roms, but I'm sure some one will prove me wrong.
As for your second problem, I didn't even know it was one, so can't help you. Although thinking about it I've seen a program for assigning profiles to wifi connections or something along those lines, which is just what your looking for. Do a search. If I come across it will post a link for you.
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As far as saving data or settings, I usually either back up the appropriate files to storage card or install to Storage card and just reinstall after hard reset. I don't think any back up utilities work if you change roms, but I'm sure some one will prove me wrong.
As for your second problem, I didn't even know it was one, so can't help you. Although thinking about it I've seen a program for assigning profiles to wifi connections or something along those lines, which is just what your looking for. Do a search. If I come across it will post a link for you.
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Installing to a storage card seems like a good idea. When you install to a storage card, does it install the App there as well as data for the app? Do you even get a choice of where to do the install? Some files run as .exe on the desktop and then automatically install on the wizard. Others I have encountered have you copy a .cab file to the wizard and then just open it. Would you simply put the .cab file on the storage card and open from there? Is there a way to install via .exe to storage card?
I have a bunch of microSD cards around, so I'm waiting on a miniSD adapter to come in so I can actually use them with this phone. It will probably be easier to figure out once I have the adapter.
wow. ive had my wizard 5 months im still having problems understanding what i read about geting wm6 and touchflo. you experiance with do things allready?
Doesn't matter where you install from, when you get a storage card in, you are given a choice:- device or storage card.
Some don't like storage cards and after go on device memory, i.e. today plug ins. but its not written in stone, trial and error.
Thanks for all the help. It's a lot clearer than it was a few days ago now that I've played with installing some more.
My final question is this: I've learned how to install ROMS and search these forums for them (although I'm not sure on what each has to offer, as that will take some time). However, people mention when switching ROMs for whatever reason, the best thing to do is install an original ROM first, and then go on to whatever you want to install.
Where can I find the original ROMs for WM6? I've looked in the forums and did a search but didn't seem to come up with anything.
Would an original WM6 ROM work? Or would I need to flash back to a Cingular one with WM5 like it had when I first got it?
Anyways, just wondering about this. I imagine I just do it the same way I flashed the TNT ROM, but need to get a copy of the original ROM saved for future use.
Thanks.
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Thanks for all the help. It's a lot clearer than it was a few days ago now that I've played with installing some more.
My final question is this: I've learned how to install ROMS and search these forums for them (although I'm not sure on what each has to offer, as that will take some time). However, people mention when switching ROMs for whatever reason, the best thing to do is install an original ROM first, and then go on to whatever you want to install.
Where can I find the original ROMs for WM6? I've looked in the forums and did a search but didn't seem to come up with anything.
Would an original WM6 ROM work? Or would I need to flash back to a Cingular one with WM5 like it had when I first got it?
Anyways, just wondering about this. I imagine I just do it the same way I flashed the TNT ROM, but need to get a copy of the original ROM saved for future use.
Thanks.
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Although the wizard was tested my MS with wm6, it was never released as stock. For stability, always flash your carrier rom before a new rom (wm5... you can get it at htc)
Octavio's roms have been the most stable for me. 6.3 with wm6.1 works great. Also check out www.pointui.com for another type of touch interface. I think you would like it.
Oh... and don't become like us. I flash the rom now more then i use it. Dang things addictive.
Alright. When you say I can get it from HTC, are you referring to this URL?
HTC Download
I just want to make sure I am saving the correct version to revert back to in between ROMS. The site doesn't really provide much description about what it is.
Edit: I tried to install the ROM from the URL above, but it gave an error and said I need a newer update utility. Not sure why...Anyways...Can anyone provide a link to where I can find the original ROM I should flash to between other ROMs? If it makes a difference, I have Cingular (AT&T) - originally had WM5 now it has TNT.1437 (WM6) and I went through steps for hardSPL if that makes a difference (IPL 2.21.0001 SPL 2.21.01ip) as seen on the wiki. Phone is a G4 and works fine other than a few bugs / freezes up on ocassion, but I'd like to try other ROMs
EDIT: The ROM above did work, but I had to remove the HardSPL I had added earlier. That must've been the problem. After removing it, I installed stock ROM without any trouble - time to try a new ROM!
Somebody must have been in a simular situation to this: My main computer went to the land of fried cpu's and until money and time permit I am stuck running Win98 on an old laptop (a good exercise in humility )..
So my question is, how do you get a wm6 PDA (running the blackdiamond rom myself) to "talk to the pc"? Win98 will only run Activesync up to 3.8, and thus when I connect from Wm6 I get an "upgrade Activesync on your destktop message". This is not an option. Was wondering if I could install Activesync 3.8 on the PDA, but can't find any cabs or so anywhere... Tried finding third party software (Soti, etc) but none will run on win98.
Maybe a stupid question, but after hours and hours searching the forums and googling about I still haven't found an answer... Oh, and I'm not even interested in "syncing" mainly just transfering files.
Any tips would be greatly appreciated!
If you just need to move files back and forth, you should be able to do that over infrared, that doesn't require Activesync. Even an older laptop should have an IR port.
Hmm- looks closely at computer- indeed it does! Never used IR for anything so I didn't think of that Will give it a try! Thnx!
sooo, because i'm a cheap basta*d i'm going to buy a dvd player with gps for my car on ebay and i've noticed a lot of them, or even all of them?, run on windows ce. So here's my question, will any cab run on windows ce? i mean, winmo 5, 6, 6.1 and everything before that ran on windows ce right? so how easy would it be?
Picture this, a 8-16gb sd card, jam it into the card reader and start up S2P (slide to play) for one bad ass cover flowin' music center! obviously other thing would be useful to, and since these bad boys are only like $300 buckaroos it isn't a bad idea, especially for us gadget pr0n guys right?
what about flashing a rom from a SD card (only heard rumors/speculation about that, probably not possible)? or just loading up manila 2d/3d via throttle launcher and getting the think looking pimp? no phone antenna, no problem, just sync it through the bluetooth and make calls (new app required i'm guessing, or at least adapt/beautify some existing cab/exe). get internet sharing to work on it somehow and you're seriously looking at a pretty cool carputer. well, with all i'd want to use one for anyways. Who wants to do more than what a good rom on one of our phones can do while in a car anyways?
I'm not sure if it will run out of the box like that, with nothing more than some cabs on and sd card, or if you have to do something else (file explorer and whatnot), but i figured xda would be the best place to start for the right answers. I've never gone wrong before with you guys, so speak up! let's see what we come up with!
or at least give me a link to a better place if you know of one and i'll get off my soapbox...
anyways, i've got access to a few vogues, a wing/herald, and a touch pro to do testing with, along with the dvd player/win CE unit--in about a week or two that is--so i'm more than happy to put it on the table.
Man i hope you guys are reading this and as pumped as i am.
anyways, pm me with anything, or i'll just keep looking to see if anyone else posts here
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does anyone know if this would even work?
This could work.
First of all, you need to look up how to disable OEM's shell (factory "software" of the player) and enable Windows CE interface.
Next you either install Handheld PC apps, or install libraries which allow you to run applications from PocketPC.
Myself I tried it with a cheap GPS. Yeah, WinCE + apps are a major step up from maps only, but it is not anywhere close to even a non-phone PPC. Because of, for example, lack of WiFi. The big advantage is, that I can install any WinCE compatible map instead of outdated OEM maps.
Hope I am right, and this helps
Where did you find information about your GPS? I just got one, model# TID-7626GPS that I'm going to try to mod, but i can't find information about how to get the WinCE.
if you could pass on any links to places i could look it would help a ton. For how do disable the factory OEM and those libraries?
First you need to find out real manufacturer of your device. I googled model name you said but there's nothing
Or, connect that device via ActiveSync (yes, the same) and see if there's a file \Windows\autorun.inf
If it exists, backup it. Then change it so it will load \Windows\explorer.exe
That should unlock WinCE UI.
However, the file may not exist. In this case you have to look for instructions over the web.
I'm very sad and I'm hoping someone can help me with ANY idea that might work. I just bought a LifeView FlyPresenter CF card for my pda because I heard awesome things about it. Unfortunately any and all attempts to install the card so far have been unsuccessful with any driver version I could find. Plugging the card in hangs the pda until I remove it and soft-resetting with the card in hangs the boot process...when I remove it the thing boots normally and then gives me an error box saying it can't recognize the card (which I pulled out) and is looking for me to tell it what driver to use. I tried typing the driver name in the box but that did nothing, probably because I can't get the error box and have the card plugged in simultaneously. The Card is supposedly written for PPC 2002 and 2003 and I figured that it'd be compatible with WM6 but maybe I was mistaken....the software seemed to install normally and the app shows up on the programs list though.
So....I'm hoping somebody can help me either A) get the thing working or B) tell me how to trick the device into acting like a ppc 2003 or something crazy like that so that I can use the card in some limited way. It has a lot of awesome software and full motion video out that I want to take advantage of. Thank you for your kind support.
IPAQ 210 Enterprise
WM6 Classic (non cooked)
81 MB free RAM
39 MB free space on the device
Anybody? I'm totally helpless at this point...
hi there, the drivers are imcompatible i have a Lifview cam, its a noshow on my 6.1 custom, you need 2003/se for it to work.
Sorry
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Aww ****..... Is there anyway to emulate the OS on a wm6 device? I don't care how complicated or weird it is....any means of running the hardware would be better than having to sell this thing after I just bought it.
gahhhrrrlic said:
Aww ****..... Is there anyway to emulate the OS on a wm6 device? I don't care how complicated or weird it is....any means of running the hardware would be better than having to sell this thing after I just bought it.
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Sorry, i don't thinks its possible.
Hey have you seen on their website that they have SDK software? I just saw it now. Apparently it allows you to write drivers for whatever platform you want by simply using their dll files and writing the drivers for them. Problem is the link is 404 and I can't find the sdk anywhere else. I know they have the same software for the flycam too. Maybe if we each are able to find our respective versions of the SDK we can both use our hardware again.
Any ideas where I could find the SDK? My methods of searching for things are limited to google but you might know where else such things are likely to be found...
Badwolve1 said:
hi there, the drivers are imcompatible i have a Lifview cam, its a noshow on my 6.1 custom, you need 2003/se for it to work.
Sorry
Badwolve1
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Try this Software: http://www.wincesoft.de/html/cecam.html It may work for you.
I been having trouble trying to run Quake 3 Arena CE on my Dell X51V PDA. I did exactly what the install notes say but I get this
"The file 'Q3CE' cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found. You might need to reinstall or restore this file."
I have basically converted the PAK0 file already using the converter it came with and put that in the baseq3 folder. I got the PAK0 file from the full game of Quake 3 Arena on my PC so it should work fine. All I can say that even after I converted the PAK0 file it still is around 440mb so it's a big file but I used a 2GB SD card so I have enough room. The PAK0 file is updated since I was using the latest version of the game on my PC.
I have Windows Mobile 5 on my PDA now basically the original OS that came with the X51V. Also I took the libgles_cm.dll file out since my PDA has hardware acceleration.
This is what I have inside my Q3A folder on my 2GB SD card but doesn't work for some reason.
q3ce.exe
gx.dll
baseq3\q3config.cfg
baseq3\pak0.pk3
baseq3\cgamearm.dll
baseq3\qagamearm.dll
baseq3\uiarm.dll
If someone can help me on this I would truly appreciate it. I would want to play this game when I goto Japan in 2 months from now.
I tried using WM 6.1 and it still shows the same error message. I don't know if the 6.1 version will run better than 5.0 eatherway but both don't run the game. Just wondering but does Quake 3 run better on Windows Mobile 5.0 or 6.1 Pro? That's if I do somehow make the game run that is.
Is there anyone here that knows how to run this game? I see a lot of views on this topic but no replys? I really want to make this game work. Please help me.
Btw I did restore back to WM 5.0 since that was the original OS that came with the PDA. I did only wanted to test to see if the 6.1 would work but it didn't same thing happened.
Now there must be something wrong that I did since it doesn't work but all I know is that I put the q3ce.exe and gx.dll file in the Q3A folder and made a new folder called baseq3 and put q3config.cfg, pak0.pk3, cgamearm.dll, qagamearm.dll, uiarm.dll
But that seems to not work since I got the error message. I really need help on this guys. Thanks
Does anyone know how to make this game run on my PDA? What did I need to do exactly to make it run on WM 5.0?
I trust that no one is ignoring me here since I know people here are to help each other but it's strange I get no replies back. Did I post this question on a wrong forum?
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I trust that no one is ignoring me here since I know people here are to help each other but it's strange I get no replies back. Did I post this question on a wrong forum?
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I can see from Google that you have posted exactly the same question on at least 5 different computing forums. You're not being ignored, but I suspect that nobody knows, or really cares, about the answer. XDA is, primarily, an Android development site and you are asking about a Windows CE - I suspect that you are going to get no answers to this anywhere unless you are extremely lucky.