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[Q] Should I make the switch to Android?

Hi everyone!
As the title suggests, I'm thinking about making the switch to Android I'm currently at windows mobile, on a HD2. It's a great phone but I can't help but feel that WinMo just doesn't make such a great mobile OS.
Custom ROM's do improve the experience and all, but still, it's WinMo.. So, I thought "Okay, I'll sell my HD2 and buy myself a Desire". At this time of writing, someone is willing to pay € 250 (keep in mind that this phone is almost a year old and has some scratches on the side).
€ 250 is okay, but I'm aiming for € 300
But, now I'm getting second thoughts.. Should I wait to switch to android? Or should I keep the HD2? The Desire seems pretty solid and futureproof...
I really don't know anymore.. And since it involves quite a lot of money, I thought I could use someone else's take on this
So XDA, what do you think is best?

Wait for something better than the desire, and in the mean time, use the android rom for the hd2
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App

Yeah, that's why I'm having second thoughts There are a lot rumored phones which should out somewhere around the holidays I guess.. But, is it worth the wait? Because the rumored dual core cpu seems kinda overkill.. And 1.2 GHz cpu's don't really seem to make much difference to me.
I mean, 1GHz is already a lot of horse power for a phone :O
Edit: In the world of gadgets and technology, something new and better is released daily, I could keep on waiting for something better?

It depends what you want from your phone. I've had the desire since probably about April, and whilst it was already an amazing phone, I rooted it yesterday because I didn't want to wait around for froyo update. Now what was a great phone is a Stellar phone!
But that's just me. As others have said, HTC are bringing some new phones out but hardware wise they're not too dissimilar to turf desire. If you want either a 4+ inch screen an 8meg camera, or a slide out keyboard, then wait for the desire HD or the Desire Z.
If these are not essential, a desire will be future proof for a least a year yet id say. But hey I'm no.expert

narcoustic said:
It depends what you want from your phone. I've had the desire since probably about April, and whilst it was already an amazing phone, I rooted it yesterday because I didn't want to wait around for froyo update. Now what was a great phone is a Stellar phone!
But that's just me. As others have said, HTC are bringing some new phones out but hardware wise they're not too dissimilar to turf desire. If you want either a 4+ inch screen an 8meg camera, or a slide out keyboard, then wait for the desire HD or the Desire Z.
If these are not essential, a desire will be future proof for a least a year yet id say. But hey I'm no.expert
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I was kinda thinking the same thing Although I'm hoping to get by a little longer with such a phone, so that's why I want to make the right decision this time. I mean, the HD2 feels like a mistake.. It was and still is, a quite expensive phone so yeah..
En pff, a 4" screen is nice but I don't know.. It's probably going to be the same resolution? And the design of the Desire HD looks less attractive compared to the one of the HD2 or the Desire. Well, that's just my opinion
and oh, do you have any remarks on your Desire? Something that could've been done better or..?

I'd definitely make the switch. With the help of a friend, I was recently able to put Android (2.2) on my Acer L2R Geeksphone. Since then, I've just been addicted to the phone (mind you, my Tilt2 has got super specs in almost every single aspect than the Acer L2R).
Everything that wasn't available for me with Wm is now on Android. My Tilt2 has just been laying on the floor since I got Android on this device. Now I'm looking to get a Captivate.

I've been with Windows Mobile since PocketPC 2002 on my Toshiba e740. I liked the OS because it was hackable. Swap out components, make edits, and new features.
What I didn't like is the sluggishness.
Android on my Nexus One is amazing. Here are a few thoughts that I've come across. The trackball is better then an optical pad, but don't buy anything without either one of those. You could get by without it but the trackball has really been useful in games and emulaters. I'm not sure how the optical pad would suffice. I had a Samsung Epix with an optical sensor and 1 swipe was 1 direction. So gaming is out right there. Selecting text is a pain but better then nothing.
The larger screens may seems nice, but the same resolution things will start to look blocky/pixelized. My friend has an AT&T Captivate (Galaxy S) and the screen looks good. It is a bit too big for me. The bigness of the screen make the phone very thin. Which is a good/bad thing. The Galaxy S is sweet but it lacks a trackball/sensor that is very handy.
The Desire is basically the same as a Nexus One. If I could trade my Trackball for a few physical buttons... I wouldn't. The phone is responsive and fast enough to use the onscreen controls. Being able to hit the green send button to quickly bring up the dialpad would very sweet vs having to launch the dialer from my homescreen. Honestly I don't miss a physical button though.
Life is a trade off though:
Nexus One
Trackball is the best of the best if you want to do any kind of gaming.
Trackball Notifications is a treat, presenting 255 programmable different colors for various notifications.
I think they got the FM radio working on the Nexus One.
Software updates are glorious.
You can make the Nexus one look like the Desire (which is sexy)
Desire:
Physical buttons make it easy to bring up the dialer from anywhere to make a call. I've noticed on Android the End Key doesn't really do anything beside hang up a call. I guess some programs could remap those keys for other uses.
Optical sensor is middle grade. Makes gaming basically useless unless it is all touch controls. Given the quirky multitouch issues of the screen in the Desire/Nexus one, that is also limiting.
I think the Desire is sexy
Galaxy S
I'm not too sure about it yet. I recommended my friend by one, and he did. He complains about the battery being very very short (half a day on light use).
The screen has a blue/green hue. Very noticable.
The screen is easily visible in direct sunlight. Which is awesome.
No trackball/sensor. Ouch.
Hummingbird processor/GPU
Screen has a great multitouch screen. So multitouch gaming is easily possible.
Phone is so THIN that you could probably afford a thicker longer battery to make it last throughout the day.
My opinion... wait. If you want one now the Nexus will start to get Gingerbread probably starting in October (almost a month). Maybe try to find one second hand or cheap. Stay out of contract because some better phones with better processors will start coming out very soon.

The wait for a new phone like desire hd or desire z is not to long and will be a big difference. But no one would blame you if you jumped the gun, especially if you like the design better and feel 1 ghz is enough.

Yeah, the Nexus One has crossed my mind already.. but it's a bit more expensive than the Desire and it's kinda hard to order one and get it shipped right here to Belgium.
I don't know why, but Google doesn't ship to Belgium. It did to the Netherlands but, Google has stopped shipping Nexus' and right now, I don't find a webshop which has cheap shipping or even the Nexus One.
And concerning the Desire HD/Z, I don't think there'll be much difference, the Z will have a physical keyboard and the HD will have a huge screen, just like de HD2 does. But, I noticed that with the HD2, holding the phone can be problematic sometimes. Operating the device with one hand can be kinda tricky, you could easily drop the phone that way..And oh, the Desire HD is not likely to have a trackbaal/sensor And just like player911 says, it's something which is very handy! Most of the time when I have a Android device in my hand, I use the trackball/sensor to switch screens etc.
Code:
http://htcpedia.com/news/995.html
(rumored spec's of the HTC HD, although I guess most of you already knew that )
Are there any more rumored Android devices? :O

One of the only things I would have improved on the desire would have been speed of the OS as it ran slightly slow at times. However now that I've upgraded to froyo I'm struggling to think of anything. The minor gripes I had before are mostly ironed out in froyo.
The biggest negative for The desire is the battery life, but this can be remedied in a # of different ways. I have a spare battery for instance. Also, froyo supposedly improves battery but I haven't run any tests personally.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

I'd wait for better and more powerful android devices as i can't see much difference or generation gap between the HD2 and Desire/Captivate etc.. HD2 is still a powerhouse device and it has great android rom ports. In addition, it looks like WM7 port will be available for HD2,too. So hd2 is also very flexible between different platforms.
Sems.

narcoustic said:
One of the only things I would have improved on the desire would have been speed of the OS as it ran slightly slow at times. However now that I've upgraded to froyo I'm struggling to think of anything. The minor gripes I had before are mostly ironed out in froyo.
The biggest negative for The desire is the battery life, but this can be remedied in a # of different ways. I have a spare battery for instance. Also, froyo supposedly improves battery but I haven't run any tests personally.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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Hmm, I've read about the battery life.. Is it really that bad? I mean, do you have troubles to get through the day with one charge?
Semseddin said:
I'd wait for better and more powerful android devices as i can't see much difference or generation gap between the HD2 and Desire/Captivate etc.. HD2 is still a powerhouse device and it has great android rom ports. In addition, it looks like WM7 port will be available for HD2,too. So hd2 is also very flexible between different platforms.
Sems.
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Good point. But the Android ports for the HD2 are nothing close to the real deal, it seems. No? And personally, I don't like WP7 at all.. Way to apple-ish for me. I want a phone which lets me do whatever I want to do with it. That's something which is not going to be possible with WP7 - unless it gets hacked, and it probably will, but still, I don't like it

Battery on desire will get you through about a day on a single charge (pre froyo) but its not drastically worse than other smart phones I don't think. I always charge my phone everyday anyway.
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I wouldn´t think on make the switch
My Leo is capable of having the best of both OS and still has same or even better specs than "newer" devices.
And now that WP7 is just around the corner, I´ll stay with WM/WP!

After owning an HD2 you won't to go back to anything with a smaller screen, i did and hated it, so bought a streak! So much better than the HTC in every department

Personally, I think 4" is the biggest screen size I find comfy. Anything bigger is a bit of a risk in the hand.
Ive had the Nexus one and the desire. ALthough near identical, I much appreciate the hard buttons as opposed t o the softkeys on the Nexus.
The Nexus Trackball acts funny after a few months of use (or did in my case) and the optical joystick on the desire randomly breaks with most CM based Roms. so
Btw HTC Sense has a pretty good text selection feature making it easy to deal w/o any sort of joystick/trackball.
I'd wait and get the next range of HTC phones or a samsung galaxy phone. Both will have huge android dev (galaxy coz they simply sold so many!) and HTC because the community has been built around HTC Devices.
The two biggest things on my Desire wish list include:
- better GPU not that I really play games , but hey! I would if I could!
- Multi touch issue (you wont notice it in the browser) but a lot of games are soooo frustrating because of the multi-touch bug
THe Nexus one had the following issues:
Power button has a mind of its own
hard to press soft keys
Bought a Galaxy S to review so will let you know what thats like. Im sure it'll have its quirks.
Hope this helped
Oz

[Q] galaxy s vs desire vs iphone 4

Hello,
Im choosing a phone from these 3 phones. I like samsung, but im confused because people still saying that desire is better than samsung. Samsung hardware is better. OS is the same. And samsung is getting 2,2froyo soon. HTC Sense UI is not important for me.
I think galaxy S is better, but i need gps and i heard that samsung galaxy S is bad with GPS. Samsung said that they fix this. Will they really fix? Its not the same when the apple tried to fix bad antenna with new iOS ?

Pleaser help to decide. What about ROMs for Galaxy S. quantity of them is smaller than desire, but maybe in the future they will increase ?

please people help to decide. i dont now much about them.

Please dont be so bad guys. Advice me. What phone to choose

Get the Galaxy S. You wont be sorry.

Galaxy S. Period

How about ROM's for galaxy S ? And i now that there's a OpenDesire for HTC Desire which makes desire super phone. Will be there something for samsung ? At least fixes or smthg?

Please answer me guys, i have a few hours to decide. I dont now much about androids

Galaxy S plus over Desire:
A bit larger Super Amoled screen
Storage
GPU
Cost
S/W Problems are getting fixed with new F/W updates
Battery life
Galaxy S negative points over desire:
Though the S/W problems are getting fixed with new f/w updates, they are being released too often, and often come with more problems.
The CPU "Hummingbird" has been called that it does 1,2x better on the same frequency as snapdragon. This is not truth anymore as latest builds are just as fast, for someone maybe a little more.
Somone said that the CPU might be overclockable to 1,6Ghz... NEVER. Well snapdragon is overclockable a bit higher then 1,4Ghz. But you need to overvolt it, NEVER use performance governor and basically... In short, the snapdragon CPU is H/W limited to a bit more then 1000 BogoMIPS. And it will cause problems. And so the hummingbird is. But because it's so optimized I can hardly think of any possibility why or how could it end-up with 1,6Ghz. It might go 1,4Ghz, but will have maybe even more problems then the snapdragon.
It looks iPhonish
It's support is... well come on it's still Samsung
H/W-wise it may be better, but just so in terms that you wanted a gaming phone, maybe movies phone. Everything else is the same.
It's bigger. Might be too wide for someone
The style isn't the right thing... Actually it's style I almost **** hate. 2cm on top and bottom, please kill me -.-' Though it may look good for someone, Desire looks better in terms of.. how do I call it... object placement?
The construction is good, but not as good as Desire's. (though some models shipped before summer had the the back side jarring/creaking. Unfortunately one of those is mine... but it stopped after I was pushing it/using it or what. Well it's okay now, in short. (Not a minus for desire)
It's pure plastic. Though really good plastic, clap clap for that. But it's plastic, so clap clap in Samsung's face.
Costs a liiitttleee more
Worser Custom roms.
Less accessories
A little worser community.. what am I talking about, it's just a bunch of whiney kids " GALAXY S IS BETTER YOU ***** MOTHERF*". Yeah about like that
And probably 1000 other reasons
Why Desire?
Better community, ROMs, speed, stabiliity, later battery life. Galaxy S maybe looks like less problems, but overall it's still the same thing, just a little bit enhanced. If you think you'll get more satisfaction with it, buy it. But if you don't specifically want a game phone, better get Desire...
Why NOT iPhone 4?
1.) Cost
2.) It's already very outdated
3.) Problems problems and problems
4.) iSheep
5.) The "awesome" Retina display is just the same decades old TFT display, it's so old, that's why they can make it higher DPI. But it's made by LG. In short LG = *************
6.) No changes from 3gs. And by changes I mean innovation. When I've heard about that there's new iPhone coming, I thought that it's gonna come with 2ghz-ish processor, 14mp cam... something for what it would be worth the money. And it's not. It's the same old CPU, just running 400Mhz faster frequency. iPhone 3gs 16MFlops, iPhone 4 19MFlops. (iPad 22-24Mflops)
7.) Loserphone
8.) Did I say loserphone?
9.) If even woman can use iPhone, what's the phone for men? Android TM
WAAAAAAAAAAAAIT A SECOND
What date is it??? OOOH DUDE!!! Get Desire HD or any of the new high-end HTC phone being announced 15th September. If it'll have Adreno 205 it'll be even faster then the galaxy s. Actually 1/3 times faster.

Desire HD with 4.3 . It will be very very big

I had a desire and now I'm using a I9000.
I must say that the Galaxy is lighter and faster. The screen looks amazing and the battery lasts much longer.
you won't regret buying either.
p.s. please stop spamming your thread

no spam no answers

Dany0 said:
Galaxy S plus over Desire:
A bit larger Super Amoled screen
Storage
GPU
Cost
S/W Problems are getting fixed with new F/W updates
Battery life
Galaxy S negative points over desire:
Though the S/W problems are getting fixed with new f/w updates, they are being released too often, and often come with more problems.
The CPU "Hummingbird" has been called that it does 1,2x better on the same frequency as snapdragon. This is not truth anymore as latest builds are just as fast, for someone maybe a little more.
Somone said that the CPU might be overclockable to 1,6Ghz... NEVER. Well snapdragon is overclockable a bit higher then 1,4Ghz. But you need to overvolt it, NEVER use performance governor and basically... In short, the snapdragon CPU is H/W limited to a bit more then 1000 BogoMIPS. And it will cause problems. And so the hummingbird is. But because it's so optimized I can hardly think of any possibility why or how could it end-up with 1,6Ghz. It might go 1,4Ghz, but will have maybe even more problems then the snapdragon.
It looks iPhonish
It's support is... well come on it's still Samsung
H/W-wise it may be better, but just so in terms that you wanted a gaming phone, maybe movies phone. Everything else is the same.
It's bigger. Might be too wide for someone
The style isn't the right thing... Actually it's style I almost **** hate. 2cm on top and bottom, please kill me -.-' Though it may look good for someone, Desire looks better in terms of.. how do I call it... object placement?
The construction is good, but not as good as Desire's. (though some models shipped before summer had the the back side jarring/creaking. Unfortunately one of those is mine... but it stopped after I was pushing it/using it or what. Well it's okay now, in short. (Not a minus for desire)
It's pure plastic. Though really good plastic, clap clap for that. But it's plastic, so clap clap in Samsung's face.
Costs a liiitttleee more
Worser Custom roms.
Less accessories
A little worser community.. what am I talking about, it's just a bunch of whiney kids " GALAXY S IS BETTER YOU ***** MOTHERF*". Yeah about like that
And probably 1000 other reasons
Why Desire?
Better community, ROMs, speed, stabiliity, later battery life. Galaxy S maybe looks like less problems, but overall it's still the same thing, just a little bit enhanced. If you think you'll get more satisfaction with it, buy it. But if you don't specifically want a game phone, better get Desire...
Why NOT iPhone 4?
1.) Cost
2.) It's already very outdated
3.) Problems problems and problems
4.) iSheep
5.) The "awesome" Retina display is just the same decades old TFT display, it's so old, that's why they can make it higher DPI. But it's made by LG. In short LG = *************
6.) No changes from 3gs. And by changes I mean innovation. When I've heard about that there's new iPhone coming, I thought that it's gonna come with 2ghz-ish processor, 14mp cam... something for what it would be worth the money. And it's not. It's the same old CPU, just running 400Mhz faster frequency. iPhone 3gs 16MFlops, iPhone 4 19MFlops. (iPad 22-24Mflops)
7.) Loserphone
8.) Did I say loserphone?
9.) If even woman can use iPhone, what's the phone for men? Android TM
WAAAAAAAAAAAAIT A SECOND
What date is it??? OOOH DUDE!!! Get Desire HD or any of the new high-end HTC phone being announced 15th September. If it'll have Adreno 205 it'll be even faster then the galaxy s. Actually 1/3 times faster.
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thank you very much ! Very helpfull post !

No problem, btw 4,3 is not big, my desire has 3,7' and I find it really small. (really)
And as far what I've seen, it will have really good construction.

Samsung galaxy S is a pretty solid phone it runs great it looks sleek its screen is what is known as gorilla glass which if you look up is pretty impressive kudos to samsung for choosing that as the screen had mine since the second day it was released and it barely has scratches on the screeen 2x kudos and i am very rough with my electronics, great resolution fast processor and highly modded it becomes a straight monster phone who cares if im running stock rom you would never beable to tell after all that i did to my phone the development section is small yes but there is so much you can do with it i cannot wait till more comes out for this phone
phone:samsung galaxy s*vibrant*
De-T-Mobiled, stock rom, launcher pro plus
euro boot screen,shutdown. lagfix *market*
Rock solid phone

cybertang said:
Samsung galaxy S is a pretty solid phone it runs great it looks sleek its screen is what is known as gorilla glass which if you look up is pretty impressive kudos to samsung for choosing that as the screen had mine since the second day it was released and it barely has scratches on the screeen 2x kudos and i am very rough with my electronics, great resolution fast processor and highly modded it becomes a straight monster phone who cares if im running stock rom you would never beable to tell after all that i did to my phone the development section is small yes but there is so much you can do with it i cannot wait till more comes out for this phone
phone:samsung galaxy s*vibrant*
De-T-Mobiled, stock rom, launcher pro plus
euro boot screen,shutdown. lagfix *market*
Rock solid phone
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See? that's exactly the type I was talking about...

MisterMonitor said:
Desire HD with 4.3 . It will be very very big
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Nope, the Desire HD will be about the same size as the Galaxy S. Look at the Evo, it's 2mm larger, 1 mm shorter than the Galaxy S, and 1 mm thicker (which is not really a sizable difference between the 2).
The Desire HD uses the whole space for the screen (where as the Galaxy S has 2 cm plastic at the top and 2 at the bottom).
I wanted to take the Galaxy S, but now I'm definitely waiting for the Desire HD.

Dany0 said:
See? that's exactly the type I was talking about...
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But i heard that samsung have a buggy OS. And have no costum ROMs and etc. There's a lot of good roms for Desire, including the OpenDesire which makes your phone super

ravi84m said:
I had a desire and now I'm using a I9000.
I must say that the Galaxy is lighter and faster. The screen looks amazing and the battery lasts much longer.
you won't regret buying either.
p.s. please stop spamming your thread
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the galaxy s isnt faster lol everyone knows about the galaxy's poor memory management, even galaxy owners complain about lag when using messeges or dialer ect, the fact of the matter is, if you have an xbox and dont care about playing games on you phone, get the desire its by far the superior device, if you want it for games get the iphone lol

i were almost buying Galaxy S, but then i heard about super thing called OpenDesire. And heard that samsung OS is buggy, laggy. And no costum ROMs

Which Smart Phone?

Hey guys, my first thread here.
I live in Canada, so I don't get much of smartphone selections up here.
Here's several phone that I think I will like, and I want you guys to help me decide.
Phones I think I would like, and some basic understanding from me of the pros and cons(I love the HTC Droid Incredible the best, too bad we dont have it up here :[ ):
HTC Desire
Pro:
Sense UI
No Cons
Galaxy S Vibrant [This actually should be a i9000, they call it vibrant up here]
Pro:
Super AMOLED Screen (Although I know that the iPhone 4 screen is brighter)
4" Display
Cons:
Lagging Issues
No Flash on camera
a lot of little software issues
Plasticy(a case or skin can cover that)
UPDATE: Galaxy S Captivate is coming to us this September, Same Pros and Cons except it doesnt have as much software issues?
iPhone 4
Pros:
Better Music Player
Great Support (Obviously a very popular phone)
Definitly a lot of better apps, for now
Cons:
No Adobe Flash
Blocking Signals, although I know from friends that it is not a big issue at all
if you got a good point that another phone might be better, i might change my mind

iphone, generally garbage, if you have any self respect dont get it
Sense UI sucks, everyone with a good phone like that flashes cyanogen or something like that
and galaxy S feels plasticky

Sler said:
Hey guys, my first thread here.
I live in Canada, so I don't get much of smartphone selections up here.
Here's several phone that I think I will like, and I want you guys to help me decide.
Phones I think I would like, and some basic understanding from me of the pros and cons(I love the HTC Droid Incredible the best, too bad we dont have it up here :[ ):
HTC Desire
Pro:
Sense UI
No Cons
Galaxy S Vibrant [This actually should be a i9000, they call it vibrant up here]
Pro:
Super AMOLED Screen (Although I know that the iPhone 4 screen is brighter)
4" Display
Cons:
Lagging Issues
No Flash on camera
a lot of little software issues
Plasticy(a case or skin can cover that)
UPDATE: Galaxy S Captivate is coming to us this September, Same Pros and Cons except it doesnt have as much software issues?
iPhone 4
Pros:
Better Music Player
Great Support (Obviously a very popular phone)
Definitly a lot of better apps, for now
Cons:
No Adobe Flash
Blocking Signals, although I know from friends that it is not a big issue at all
if you got a good point that another phone might be better, i might change my mind
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Id get the disire. as you said, no cons

HTC Supersonic

Yeah, I also say grab the HTC Desire.

Opinions Needed. Sgs II or HTC Sensation?

I just wanted to get an opinion before i jump and get a new phone. I like both the galaxy s 2 and the htc sensation (now that it will be coming to Bell Mobility meaning AT&T HSPA Bands). I'm just want to know the positives and negatives of each device. I want honest opinions.

I'd pick the SGSII. I think it'll have better capabilities in the future when it comes to modding.
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good point

gasolara2002 said:
I just wanted to get an opinion before i jump and get a new phone. I like both the galaxy s 2 and the htc sensation (now that it will be coming to Bell Mobility meaning AT&T HSPA Bands). I'm just want to know the positives and negatives of each device. I want honest opinions.
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From my play time with a Sensation, there is no other choice. . It's that good. Sense 3.0 is just superb. And the build quality, style and design of the Sensation pushes it over the top. The SGS2 may be a nice phone, but it just can't even approach the Sensation...in my opinion.

Another great point.

I had the same problem choosing between these two phones. My previous HTC phones had superb build quality and I still think HTC makes incredible devices but after reading some reviews I decided on the Galaxy S II. The screen is undeniably amazing, and even though it has a slightly lower resolution it honestly doesn't matter, the display is that good. Its very fast, thin, and has surprisingly good build quality for a Samsung phone (no creaks at all, like my Desire Z). I haven't been able to slow it down yet, and that's a first for any android phone I have had or tried. At the time hearing about the locked bootloader on the Sensation defiantly made a difference for me coming from the **** that was the Atrix, but HTC has resolved this issue now (I think). As far as Sense 3.0 or TouchWiz 4.0 go I await the day CM7 nighties start releasing so I dont have to deal with stupid manufacturer "improvements" to android. You will have to make the decision yourself, but I can tell you for sure if you get the Galaxy S II you wont be disappointed.

HTC all the way. But I a HTC fan not
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App

I would have to say SGSII
Samsung has it!

I go for Samsung Galaxy S II.
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I forgot to mention, don't forget about the horrific GPS problems Samsung phones have. Plus the build quality is spotty at best. HTC phones are a proven and sure bet.

Id go SGSII I loved my original Galaxy variation, and the SGSII looks like a beast

Have you seen the GS2's screen next to the sensation? Samsung is infinitely better.

MartyLK said:
I forgot to mention, don't forget about the horrific GPS problems Samsung phones have. Plus the build quality is spotty at best. HTC phones are a proven and sure bet.
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GPS is perfect here, much better than the DHD, stable lock on seconds, build quality is on par with HTC
Add on the huge development teams involved with sgs2 and u can't touch it! I was a HTC fanboy
Sgs2 is a different animal
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I think Samsung Galaxy S II

SII - Brilliant screen and no doubt about that, very good performance and pretty good battery life too. GPS problems seems to be exist in this one too, but when is comes to performance, no compromises, always a better phone, unless you are hooked up to HTC Sense UI
HTC Sensation - super LCD lacks that brilliance that samsung AMOLED holds, but still read that pretty good battery life with idle state, and comfortably survive for 2 days. HTC Sense UI with latest changes does have some lag in the phone, so if you are looking at absolute performance, this might not be the phone.

I totally agree witg ajvasudhar.
The big problem is that Touchwiz is no where near the beauty of Sense UI.
...I wonder if (S*ns* porting to SII)...naaahhh...forget it...

HTC off caurse does not have concurrents. this is true

SGS II is better

Difficult choice, indeed, and I am standing in front of the exactly same dilema... I really dont like TouchWiz, and I really love HTC Sense... but I've read HTC Sense has some issues with smoothnes... I'd say its even here.
Display on SGSII is SAMOLED+, that would be +1 for me, however for 4.3inches, I am afraid that same resolution as on 3.7 inches amoled screen wont look that sharp. HTC on other hand has qHD resolution, but only S-LCD screen, which is not bad, but not as bright as Amoled(yea, I am very afraid of the 'gray' black on S-LCD). its still even fight on this point
Design of SGSII is weird, I dont like it, its like a brick, square, huge. On other hand, HTC came with very interresting design, I like the screen design, its very original. This round owns HTC.
Quality of materials, here again, just as with SGS I, SGSII has been made out of cheap looking plastics, and I dont like it. I have also heard that after two weeks of use, the back cover is making weird noise... on other hand, HTC has again aluminium unibody, where you put the phone into this body. GREAT... +1 for HTC.
Controls, I dont like the Samsung way of doing it, on/off button on side, three buttons, pretty far from each other... its my own opinion, I dont like it, but I guess I'd get used to that(but I still prefer unlocking phone from top) HTC has keys I am used to, but those are again sensors only, not real buttons.. I dont like this, so here its SGSII who takes point, where at least the home button is real +1
HW and performance, so far what I've seen benchmarks(I know its not perfectly accurate) and other stuff, SGSII is way better, it may be caused by SENSE, which is eating really a lot of performance, and may get improved by custom roms, but here I have to give points to SGSII, which has even more memory So far we have it 2:2 for each device
Now, I got into point, that no other things makes any difference for me... each phones have their own issues, SGS is loosing GPS signal, HTC is loosing WiFi and BT while not holding properly. I have also heard that first bunch of HTC's had issue with pocket lint/dust getting under the screen, however HTC is solving this responsibly and fixing the phones straight away.
So, if you ask me, for me its gonna be the one that goes cheaper... so far I can get Sensation for cca 220eur and SGSII for 300eur(both with 18months contract, which I'd take anyways), which makes HTC the winner, just because of the pricing.
Dont take this as a guide, this is bunch of my own opinions and preferences, why I chose HTC over Samsung, you might have different preferences, and performance could be far more important for you than look of the phone as for me, so still this is your choice... If you have chance, get into store and let them borrow you both working phones, put them next to each other and play with them for a moment, then you'll see which one is your champion

I read tons of reviews and comparison videos and went with the SGSII. The SGSII came out on top in most reviews. Loving mine!

[Q] Upgrade to which phone?

Hey guys,
I really want to upgrade my phone. Currently I have a Desire S but the screen is far to small for my needs :/
So i want to upgrade. There are 3 phones were i'm interested in: the Galaxy S2, the Galaxy Nexus and the normal Sensation.
I really like the speed of the S2 and the hardware home button, but the resolution is incredible low on this device Against that there is the Nexus, its a bit slower from what i've heard but has a beautiful screen in my opinion. Did any of you guys know if the decrease in speed is noticeable in daily use? I really like that it is also supported directly from Google and get the updates asap.
There are also the Sensation because i like the aluminium case from HTC.
I prefer the Nexus and the S2 a bit over the Sensation. So which phone you recommend for me?
- Cheers Jahai

Jahai said:
Hey guys,
I really want to upgrade my phone. Currently I have a Desire S but the screen is far to small for my needs :/
So i want to upgrade. There are 3 phones were i'm interested in: the Galaxy S2, the Galaxy Nexus and the normal Sensation.
I really like the speed of the S2 and the hardware home button, but the resolution is incredible low on this device Against that there is the Nexus, its a bit slower from what i've heard but has a beautiful screen in my opinion. Did any of you guys know if the decrease in speed is noticeable in daily use? I really like that it is also supported directly from Google and get the updates asap.
There are also the Sensation because i like the aluminium case from HTC.
I prefer the Nexus and the S2 a bit over the Sensation. So which phone you recommend for me?
- Cheers Jahai
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I'm sorry to tell you, but I think you are at the wrong place. Everyone here likes his desire s.
If you need a big screen, try galaxy note or use pc
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Jahai said:
Hey guys,
I really want to upgrade my phone. Currently I have a Desire S but the screen is far to small for my needs :/
So i want to upgrade. There are 3 phones were i'm interested in: the Galaxy S2, the Galaxy Nexus and the normal Sensation.
I really like the speed of the S2 and the hardware home button, but the resolution is incredible low on this device Against that there is the Nexus, its a bit slower from what i've heard but has a beautiful screen in my opinion. Did any of you guys know if the decrease in speed is noticeable in daily use? I really like that it is also supported directly from Google and get the updates asap.
There are also the Sensation because i like the aluminium case from HTC.
I prefer the Nexus and the S2 a bit over the Sensation. So which phone you recommend for me?
- Cheers Jahai
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I would advise you to wait for the Mobile World Congress before upgrading... you'll have many more options within a couple of months...
But if you still want to upgrade now, here's my input :
1. Sensation : ? Why would you want to consider that? It's an average phone, and from whatever time i've spent on it on my friend's phone, it's nothing to write hone about. Does anyone even remember the original Sensation anymore (Especially after the XL and the XE?)
2. The SGS2 is a very very fast phone, with great hardware, but i have two issues with it : The screen has a bluish tinge to it, and colour reproduction is inaccurate across the spectrum. Secondly, it looks like a plastic business card holder
3. The Galaxy Nexus is a lovely looking device, the form factor is very attractive. In my discussions with zeekiz (who bricked his DS and migrated to the GN) he says he loves the phone and it's not slow or anything like you mentioned. Plus, you'll be the first person to get the next Android version update (Jellybean). Thirdly, it always makes sense to go for the newer device, both for the gains in hardware, as well as company support that comes more easily and lasts longer for newer (especially) flagship phones.
Best of luck choosing your next device!!

Jahai said:
Hey guys,
I really want to upgrade my phone. Currently I have a Desire S but the screen is far to small for my needs :/
So i want to upgrade. There are 3 phones were i'm interested in: the Galaxy S2, the Galaxy Nexus and the normal Sensation.
I really like the speed of the S2 and the hardware home button, but the resolution is incredible low on this device Against that there is the Nexus, its a bit slower from what i've heard but has a beautiful screen in my opinion. Did any of you guys know if the decrease in speed is noticeable in daily use? I really like that it is also supported directly from Google and get the updates asap.
There are also the Sensation because i like the aluminium case from HTC.
I prefer the Nexus and the S2 a bit over the Sensation. So which phone you recommend for me?
- Cheers Jahai
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Just a small note here, with my experiance the 3.7' of the Desire S is the largest screen size for a mobile that I can -almost- fully use with one hand, whenever you go beyond that, you may have to get used to work with both hands, and that made me drop the sensation in favor of my DS
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I came from a HTC Sensation to the Desire S as i found the Sensation too big. Surprisingly i have found the Desire S not much slower.

I would also wait for the MWC...but if you can't wait, IMHO Sensation is a good device especially after it's rooted and equipped with the custom ICS based roms made for the XE version (with CPU at 1.5 Ghz)...i think capy's work.
Anyway you have a lot of roms to try even with ICS out there.
Regarding the SGSII it's ok if you want a plastic phone....
Galaxy Nexus has a good screen and it's not slow but i think it's a little big, you will clearly need 2 hands if you want to use it properly.

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Regarding the SGSII it's ok if you want a plastic phone....
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No-go for me... Plastic toy feeling
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eyahl said:
No-go for me... Plastic toy feeling
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Right on! Exactly my thoughts about the SGS2. It feels like a business card holder!

Wait for mwc and HTC edge if price isn't the big deal
Otherwise, i personaly would buy a sensation, the gs2 is sure a nice device, but like mentioned above the screen isn't the best and the plastic body feels weird.
The galaxy nexus isn't a device for me, there are 2 dealbreakers at my opinion, even if the resolution is better than at the gs2 the grapic chip is wors and there is no sd slot.
The update cycle is sure a point and the nfc also, but for my opinion it's a pure developer phone.
The sensation is from hardware almost the same like the sensation xe and every rom can be exchanged between those 2 devices, there is no nfc, for sure, but the gs2 also haven't got one, so this isn't a point of interest for you i think.
Also even if all of them have them same frequenzies the sensation runs at a stock speed of 1.5 ghz with an xe rom, so it got the highest frequency of those phones.
Swifted from my Desire S far away from my PC

yeah i'd wait for MWC but if not galaxy nexus for all the reasons above. It is definitely not a slow phone, especially since google probably built ICS for the nexus. The only thing i hate about the nexus phones is the fact that they're always released at awkward times. By awkward, i mean right before all the new hardware comes out. My brother has an S2 and it does have a horrible plasticky feeling. While the galaxy nexus is the same, it seems to hide it better. The white S2 is even worse! It has no grip on the back which makes it absolutely horrible to hold, not to mention a liability too.

It's been a while since I did a megga-post.....
From what I'm hearing about HTC's line-up for MWC, I hope they also announce a sensible phone. At the moment I really don't know what I'll get, as the current rumours all seem to have several problems for me.
1. Screens too big.
I have a non-upgradable 2.5" thumb. I've spoken to my network provider but they wont give me a larger one. I do not want to have to change grip or use two hands to turn screen on/off. The DS screen size is perfect. It is fine watching films on Netflix.
2. Quad core. Really?
Does anyone remember the Coca-Cola/Sprite stunt yo-yo's from the eighties? (Bear with me here, work is a little slow today and I feel a rant coming on.) They were a massive craze when I was at school. They came in two versions. "Standard" and "Pro". The Pro ones cost nearly twice as much. Why was that? It was because the Pro version had "Pro" written on the side. That was it. They were the same size and weight as the standard version. But every kid in my class practically sold a kidney to get the pro version, because to show up in the playground with the standard version stood you out for ridicule, and everyone was certain the Pro version could do better stunts. What is quad core going to give us? How often is it going to be running on more than 2 cores? Can it do better stunts? My single core phone can render web pages quickly, run any game I've asked it to, record 720p video at 30fps, and has a smooth and lag free UI. It just doesn't have "Pro" written all over it. That word seems to brain-wash kids into doling out dosh! Kids love the idea of being "Pro". Look at what every premium version of any app on the Android Marketplace is called.
3. Skinny form-factors
Leading to phones being bendy and having a non-removable battery. I like my solid aluminium DS. I've held the SGS2. It feels like a kinder surpise egg. Squeeze it too hard and I worry it'd break. Plus if we are having to have a (pro) Quad Core phone don't we need a bigger battery? Did you know the HTC Edge has a fifth core (super pro) that is a very low power companion core for when the phone is off in your pocket? Turn your phone on (without dropping it changing your grip to reach the button) and expect laptop battery life from the 40nm chip. Will it come with a Pro Charger?
4. No SD Card slot.
OK most of the phones with these also claim built-in 32GB storage which is fine for capacity, but what if I brick my phone larking about on XDA? What if it just packs in? Currently all my music/photos/documents would simply be removed and put into another phone. If it's built-in and your phone wont boot.....Are the cloud-storage sites encouraging phone manufacturers to do this?
5. Build Quality.
HTC seem to have really dropped the ball with this one. They used to be fantastic. However I know 3 people who have bought the DS since September (on my recommendation) and all of them have been back for repair at least once. One of them died for the second time two nights ago with the dreaded eMMC chip failure again! WTF? Did they replace the faulty board with another one prone with the same weakness? She also waited 6 weeks to get that phone back the first time. I feel guilty now. Also check Amazon for the reviews of the DS. Since September it's started getting a load of 1 star reviews and they all read the same. It seems I was lucky in buying my DS on it's release, before it seems HTC moved production to the local wine bar/crack house. There is no way I'm spending £450 on something I'm not confident will last a year or will take me 6 weeks to get repaired.
If HTC...no if ANYONE announce a phone that has: A screen under 4", solid build, removable battery, SD card slot, improved camera optics, decent amount of RAM, reasonable battery life and justifiable processing power, then I'll get my wallet out. Or if it comes with a free Pro Yo-Yo. They do better stunts.
Basically I want a DS with a nicer camera and bigger battery. And a sticker that says "Pro" on it.

wnp_79 said:
It's been a while since I did a megga-post.....
(Bear with me here, work is a little slow today and I feel a rant coming on.)
Basically I want a DS with a nicer camera and bigger battery. And a sticker that says "Pro" on it.
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Brilliant!
Love the rant (and i thought i was the only one with this illness)
I agree on mostly everything you've said above... especially HTC screwing up on its strengths... build quality, sub-par components, and progressively bloat-ier (i know that's not a word) Sense... Though i'd still buy an HTC instead of a Samsung, all things set aside, they do better stunts!!

Yeah. Your words seem to come right from my mind.
a desire s pro would be really cool
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If i had the choice, i'd choose the sensation in a heartbeat.
First, it has the beat build IMO. The SGS 2 is too plasticky and since it's far too thin, it feels weird in my hand. The galaxy nexus is waaaaaay to big. The sensation is perfect
Second, HTC Sense. It is just too good and i can't get a device that has no chance of getting Sense. Besides, touchwiz sucks and the stock experience on the nexus can be acieved through an AOSP ROM.
That said, the super amoled screen is quiet good ad a plus point of both sammys.
That said, i recommend you wait till MWC. Something awesome will surely come up. There is a thread, full of leaks on the two upcoming htc devices, the One X and the One S.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1476788

it has to be the htc amaze, i think its a great phone, in addition to that htc has quality in its build, as in our desire s the aluminum feel is way better than the plastic in most samsungs