Hello guys,
I have an iPAQ 914c with a strange problem.
I text the same contact all through out the day, and occasionally I get complaints that I'm sending the same message multiple times.
It turns out it'll be a message that I sent a day previous that comes back and decides to re-send itself 4-5 times for no apparent reason, It's definatly not a network problem, because it was Happening on Orange UK, and now I'm on T-Mobile UK and its still happening.
I really think its a software problem with windows mobile 6.1 on the device. I've done a hard-reset twice and still get the same problem. I have the latest ROM, which was on the phone stock. I havnt gone to the hassle of Re-flashing the ROM since Its the latest, and theres no other ROMS around to test.
What do you guys think? I've only had the phone a couple of weeks and I love it, but having a bug really drives me insane!
I had a similar problem and this is what I found out.
If you send a message and it doesn't go through (network errors, you get another text or call simultaneously, etc.) it remains in your outbox (or drafts can't remember which one). When you do a soft reset (even days later), windows mobile immediately sends those unsendable texts.
Fix:
Delete items from your drafts and/or outbox folder before doing a soft reset.
The strangest thing. I just ported my number from att to sprint two weeks ago, and I haven't received any texts, calls or voicemails in the last few days and have been so busy with work I didn't think anything of it. However today I randomly received 15 texts and 5 voicemails. A lot of them were angrily asking me why I was ignoring their calls and texts. I was on the phone with sprint technical support and they reset my settings with the network and I started to receive all kinds of random texts from the last two days in random order. The technician said he never saw anything like that before. It's just so strange. My emails never stopped coming in, only the things that are sent directly from my phone from the sprint network. elguapo76 pointed out that I should have my phone on hybrid instead of just evdo, which I did. And diesel556 said
"I believe that text messages queue on the server if the device is unreachable. The same thing would happen if you went out of range on the Verizon network.
Unless you have a legitimate bug with the service."
Any ideas about what I should do to fix this? Or can anyone get more into depth with what this is? If there is a way to permanently fix this I would love to know. Thanks in advance!
Did you recently apply the update patch? It could have fixed an issue with the system throwing up a flag when your ROM gets low on storage. This was usually perpetuated by a ROM leak that many of us have experienced. Basically what happens is that if you have used bluetooth and it gets stuck connecting (hard to tell at times) it will create a 6mb-15mb core dump. Over time this will fill up your ROM storage memory. After your ROM gets filled to a certain point (whether by the bluetooth ROM leak or user function) it will throw up the flag to the server telling it to halt all sms and voicemails. Before the patch you could hard reset and recover your ROM storage memory but the flag would not come down. I know for myself it took me a couple of days to figure out I was not receiving sms/voicemails after I got some upset people emailing me why I had not got back to them. With the recent MR these bugs have been resolved and the flag could have been taken down thus freeing all your sms and voicemails from the pits of sms and voicemail hell. That's just a possible theory.
Would you say there were a plethora of bugs?
Interesting. Two days ago, I used my moto bluetooth headset for the first time. Curiouser and curiouser. However, I did use the update the day that it came out. I restored with nandroid and upgraded that same night, so I shouldn't have had that problem. Actually, when I tried to connect before the update, I couldn't even connect that headset to my phone.
jonnythan said:
Would you say there were a plethora of bugs?
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A plethora! Jefe what is a plethora?
Yes I would say the Hero had a plethora of bugs!!! Thankfully HTC/Sprint gave us a sweater of an update!It's a sweater!!!
Now just fix the Android Market problem!
I have the Verizon Touch Pro2 and recently upgraded to Windows Mobile 6.5 using the official release.
I saw someone else have this problem (he posted a video of the issue) but I cannot find if he found a solution.
Normally, if you press the top button, the blacklight turns the device's backlight on or off. If off and you press the Power button, the device tells you "Backlight is off. Press button to turn on." and points to the top button with a little green arrow.
Well, something is wrong with mine. When the backlight is off, pressing the top button does nothing. The problem is intermittent and very frustrating.
Now the device is not locked/crashed because the power button will bring up the message. Also, if I call my phone, it comes up. If I txt my phone, it comes up. If I plug my phone into my computer via USB, it comes up. But pressing the top button doesnt make it come up.
I've flashed the phone 3 times to try to get rid of the problem. Originally the phone had the 6.1 stock Verizon ROM. I have not ever try to load a custom ROM on this phone. I have no special software installed on the phone. I am not using the Sense interface, I'm using the Windows Default.
Please help! & Thanks to all you gurus!
I've only noticed this problem when my device gets too hot, so try to keep it out of the sun/heat. I've been on Mighty Mike rom for the past week and have had no issues.
i dont think its the heat..
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I've only noticed this problem when my device gets too hot, so try to keep it out of the sun/heat. I've been on Mighty Mike rom for the past week and have had no issues.
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i have not noticed any heat issues. the problem has occurred both when the device was plugged in and not plugged in. in rooms with temperatures from 68° to 76° F and never in direct sunlight..
i think the problem has something to do with email.
i have it setup to check my yahoomail via imap. its downloading messages from years ago, even though its been setup to do only the past 30 days, how is this possible?
ive seen it say 2000+ new emails on the today screen, and dating back to 2003 the last time i was able to turn the backlight on via USB, the yahoomail account was in a perpetual disconnecting... sometimes erroring at being unable to synchronize at all..
also the error reporting service has told me that "tmail.exe" keeps crashing.. im assuming its crashing cause its getting overloaded with too many emails.. can any provide some input?
ive deleted the yahoomail account for now and will see if it happens again..
update
almost 24 hours later, no locking up. device is running smooth.
i fear that the issue is related to the email problem.
it downloading 2000+ emails must have been it.. im assuming
has anyone else had the backlight issue? and have you found it may be related to email?
im going to wait 2 more days and re-add the yahoomail account and see what happens.
That is very interesting. Have you tried using seven for your mail?
http://www.seven.com/
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That is very interesting. Have you tried using seven for your mail?
http://www.seven.com/
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no ive never heard of it.. it looks like id have to join a beta to get it for my phone..
and although i enjoy the idea of using something that works i dont like just giving up on the whatever is wrong with the software.
and...
almost 48 hours later the phone has not at all locked up.. i fear the issue is directly related to whatever it was doing with my yahoomail account.
the settings were: imap yahoomail, html, 2kb, 30days, no attachments.. i think thats all thats relevant.. and it was downloading well over 2000 messages from as far back as 2003
im going to add the mail account back tonight to see what happens..
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no ive never heard of it.. it looks like id have to join a beta to get it for my phone..
and although i enjoy the idea of using something that works i dont like just giving up on the whatever is wrong with the software.
and...
almost 48 hours later the phone has not at all locked up.. i fear the issue is directly related to whatever it was doing with my yahoomail account.
the settings were: imap yahoomail, html, 2kb, 30days, no attachments.. i think thats all thats relevant.. and it was downloading well over 2000 messages from as far back as 2003
im going to add the mail account back tonight to see what happens..
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Since you mentioned it I was mulling it over...I really think you are onto something with that mail message, because the two times I did that I had a message waiting.
Seven should be free, I've posted the cab below.
Same thing with mine...
I've had the same thing happening with my TouchPro 2. I found a quasi-work around that helps limit the number of freezes, but it sure increases the number of pocket-dials I make. In the advanced section of the power settings deselect the "turn off backlight if device is not used for" box. Then decrease the "turn off device if not used for" box to 1 minute. I'm still getting really good battery life (lasts all day) and it's not a new battery.
I sure hope there's some sort of update or fix for this issue soon, because this is only a work-around.
Backlight issue on Verizon
I was having the same problem. I do not know if you have mobile email installed. I did. I removed it and so far so good. You will have to hold the back light button for about three seconds sometimes but it always works. No more soft resets. The only issue is that you have to contact Verizon and have them stop the text notifications from OZ Mail. The way Mobile E mail works is the third party software company sends a text which you never see because mobile email software gets it and uses it to give you the notification that you have new mail. Tech support had to create a trouble ticket in order to stop these text messages. Every time I got a email I would get a text from OZ mail with about 20 something alphanumeric numbers. SO far so good!
I had this problem with mine and it appeared to have something to do with my 3.5 audio jack... it was like it thought there was somthing plugged in there but there wasn't. as soon as i plugged in my headphones the screen came right on...
update - and semi-isolation
so after days of not having my yahoomail account configured, and my phone not locking up once, i added it back with the following settings:
imap, 7days, 2kb, no attachments. (the original issue occurred with similar settings, only 30day past messages and not 7)
it worked for a few days, then when i was leaving work today i took my phone out of my locker and noticed the backlight was on. an alarm had gone off.
then i looked at yahoomail and it said i had 2000+ new messages.. the first message dated from august 2008
i turned the backlight off. when i tried to turn it back on it worked. but later in the evening it did not. it hung like it was doing when i started this thread. and it was in the process of "downloading headers" for hours. upon clicking "send/receive" to make it disconnect, it sat on disconnect for a long time, without doing anything.
something is clearly wrong with yahoomail or perhaps simply the imap service
who should be contacted? someone at verizon?
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I had this problem with mine and it appeared to have something to do with my 3.5 audio jack... it was like it thought there was somthing plugged in there but there wasn't. as soon as i plugged in my headphones the screen came right on...
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i noticed my screen coming back on this evening when i got out of my car. i have bluetooth set up from my car deck to my phone for audio streaming and hands free.. it automatically connects when i turn the car on and disconnects when i turn the car off. upon disconnect the phone usually displays an error saying that the hands-free device has been disconnected.
it looks like the phone will respond when any kind of event happens (ie plug/unplug of headphones, phone call, txt message, alarm, etc..) so whatever the hell is wrong the phone is not actually crashed, just the backlight wont respond to the top button..
What your describing bis not new... nor is it limited the the TP2 or HTC phones. Commonly referred to as "failure to wake" or "sleep of death" (do ba search). Potentially effects all WinMo devices.
Frequently attributed to programs running in the background as the phone goes into sleep mode. By Programs, this could mean an active applicationyou initiated, a system program running invisibly in the background or an event that creats a notification while the phone was asleep.
Workaround is similar to what you've already tried: Extend the amount of time it takes for the device to go to sleep (+ve found 3 minutes sufficient, allowing for more time to multitask with multiple programs running).
Try not to put the phone to sleep with known programs running under the task manager.
Use Lumos to conserve battery life, since youre possibly keeping the device on for longer periods.
Keep availible RAM using a RAM cleaner and clean up duplicate notifications. I use MemMade for both.
This is a software issue and the circumstances are descibed in Microsoft's documentation for software developers. They test for programs that contribute,or create this problem before they go into the marketplace.
Sorry for the typos. In class banging out a hasty responce.
I've been having the same issue too, intermitantly maybe twice a month. I can't find any pattern.
I use Google Latitude, Batti, and I sync email every 30 minutes (Exchange to my univeristy, and IMAP to AOL) but I also have my computer set to download messages and erase messages after 2 days so I never have more than about 100 messages to sync.
WM 6.5 Verizon ROM (it came preloaded out of the box)
Sometimes, it locks up immediately after bootup (as a moment ago) sometimes it will run great for weeks before having problems. I can't find a pattern.
ever since i loaded dexter's froyo, i get this message when i boot up my phone. its in a big grey bar at the bottom, and doesnt go away, get its the way of typing/ reading messages
im not 100 percent sure but it seems like it appears every 2nd boot. i will reboot the phone, and the message will appear and not go away. if i reboot the phone again, the message will appear, but go away after a few minutes.
the message says "currently unable to download. please try again later." there is nothing actually wrong with my connectivity - i can download / browse the web and make /receive phone calls.
if anyone's interested ill make a screenshot, but yeah just wondering if anyone else is having the issue / knows of any fixes.
thanks,
I have exactly the same problem with my Motorola Milestone since my software updated.
I think it may be a Marketplace issue as loading the Market and going to 'My Apps' seems to get rid of the message. I can't promise that will work though as my phone has so many issues that it's hard to tell where one ends and another begins.
Hi guys,
I've been having my text messages fail on me for no apparent reason. It just happens sporadically, and when it happens, it keeps happening for a while.
There's no issues with reception at the time it happens. I have no clue what could cause it, and I have never been able to pick up on a pattern either.
I've had it happen here and there before (i'd say 5%-10%) of my msg's but in the last week, it's been doing it for atleast 50% of my outgoing texts.
I just get a "message not sent" notification every time I try.
If it helps, I'm currently Undead's ICS Splashed v2.0
.. but I just dont think it's the rom itself, as I remember experiencing something similar with my Captivate, and if my memory serves correct, it also happened once in a while to my G1.
But over 50% of sms failing, is just absolutely terrible.
.. if anyone has any idea how I could resolve this issue, it be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Its probably due to size. Over 160 characters and it will fail. Click the little error triangle, delete til its only on sms and resend.