Hi, guys, I've been using WM for a long time but this question has always interested me. Why "x" button doesn't close the apps but it rather kind of minimizes them? Ok, it's not problem for me, because I use software that makes "x" button close the apps, but why WM was designed that way? Most of the embedded apps in WM don't even have "exit" command in their menus. It's like WM is designed to has a lot of apps/processes running in the background? I always check Task Manager to verify that there isn't any parasitic app running that can heat up my device and drain the battery.
You can enable this in settings... by default it is set to minimise programs when you tap X, and close them when you tap and hold X. Go into settings, Task Manager, Button and you can set it to close programs buy just tapping X... no extra software needed. And yep, I guess it's designed that way so you can multi task.
when you close an application with ok/x button it doesn't close and stay in ram memory, so the next time you select the same application it will start immediately from the ram..
airprox said:
You can enable this in settings... by default it is set to minimise programs when you tap X, and close them when you tap and hold X. Go into settings, Task Manager, Button and you can set it to close programs buy just tapping X... no extra software needed. And yep, I guess it's designed that way so you can multi task.
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In Task Manager, there is no setting for the "x" button. At least not in the original WM 6.1/6.5
This is screen of Dutch Rom (6.1 and 6.5) with option as described above.
Moved as not software release.
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I'd tried out several "task close" programs and have rounded up the 2 better ones..
1 ) vjokbuttons
2 ) phmkeys "close task"
advantages of vjokbuttons is that, u can add trailing options for the different behavior
advantages of the phmkeys close task is that, when u keep on pressing the hw button assigned to this phmkey close task, and the moment u are in today screen already, the next button press will prompt a suspend ppc dialog.. ie power down.
This phmkey has been used very extensively by me due to its ability to prompt a shutdown after all apps have been closed.
however, this nifty little program also have its disadvantages..
it does close the task window.. but as applications have secondary and tertiary windows, the phmkeys close task may cause the app to behave strangely if the task close is activated in the application secondary window..
also, it causes control panel apps to not run again if the phm task close was used to close , eg , "memory" in control panel..
I remember in wisbar, its task close button will automatic detect between the need of an "OK" click and the need for the "Close" click.
Is that possible to be included in the vjokbutton?
ie if in secondary window of app [ eg options page ] to have the vjokbutton to simulate an "ok" click instead of close? and if it detects that it is in the primary window of application, to simulate a "close task" when the assigned hw button is clicked..
and of course, when in the today screen , the vjokbutton should prompt for a suspend window for shutdown
can the above features be included in your next release? vijay555?
farbird: just a quick response for now, I need to sleep:
VJOKButt does already check every time it's pressed if the window is an "OK" or an "X", and does the necessary (ie it doesn't just close every app, it pressed ok if it needs to). Hopefully. If it doesn't, please detail the app it doesn't do this in. Not all apps respond to my emulated "OK" correctly, so it may not be 100% native.
Currently, pressing VJOkButt will close the app (if it's closable). If it takes you to the today screen, pressing it again will skip to next app. Pressing again, will close it. Continuous pressing will thus close all running apps in a cycle. Ultimately you will end up on the Today screen with no other running apps.
If you want me to, I can then implement a shutdown screen, so that a subsequent press will permit shutdown. But I provide VJEschaton for shutdown related stuff really. I'm not sure it's logical to build this into VJOkButt, but if you want, I'll think about it.
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I have usually run Wisbar, and found it to be quite good, but really, the only thing I use it for is as a quick way to switch between running apps.
I already use PocketPlus, so I have a task manager that's still easy, but requires 1 long tap, and a short tap to switch.
What I would like is a task manager that will display the running applications in the task bar at the bottom of the today screen. Still 2 taps to get there I know, but ultimately, still easier, especially if I am using the device one handed or while walking around.
Any apps that do this?
(It's for a JasJar if WM5 or a VGA display make any difference)
yep. There's a tiny application called the 'Magic Button' which displays the running applications as icons on the title bar (not taskbar i'm afraid) near the start button. It's a really good little application. Got most features of any task managing app but still being very very light. It also makes the close button close apps. Only thing you gotta do in this is to tap the area where close button is supposed to be in the today screen and the display of running apps gets toggled on, then stays on until you tap the same place in the today screen again. Try it. You might find it useful.
And best of all, it's free! Here's a description from the manufacturer.
Description:
There are plenty of Task Managers available for Pocket PC. However if you are still searching for the right one, try this software.
Why Magic Button worth considering to download and replace your existing one:
- It is free.
- Does not take up any of your screen real estate, yet easy to access.
- Located on title bar but does not cover any standard info, i.e. Sound icon, notification icon.
- Very small foot print (memory usage). Only 71 KB executable file does it all (help file is 8 KB extra).
- Makes close button really close applications. Just in case you haven't noticed, the default one only minimizes them.
- Compatible with latest and greatest Windows Mobile 5.0 (new in version 2.0).
Magic Button looks clean and blends surprisingly well with Pocket PC OS. For those who do not want too fancy or too complicated Task Manager, this is for you.
If you have installed the software, here is how to master the tool:
- To unload (shutdown) Magic Button: Tap and hold on Close button, then tap and hold on Home icon.
- To show/hide the taskbar: tap and hold the OK/Minimize/Close button.
- To show the application menu that has Settings and Exit menu items: tap and hold Today (Home) icon when it is visible.
- Map a PocketPC application button to Magic Button software then you can show/hide the bar easier by pressing the button.
- To close an individual window: tap and hold its window icon on the task bar.
- To change Close Button behaviour (Close instead of Minimize) for an application: tap and hold on the app icon and select "Keep Alive" option.
Magic Button runs on Pocket PC 2002, 2003, 2003SE and Windows Mobile 5.0. VGA screen is supported.
Yeah, no better than WisBar then as it's on the title bar
I do specifically want to display it in the task bar, or else I may as well continue to use WisBar.
Is there any way I can configure the 'back' button on my Pro to actually, close programs instead of just leaving them running in the background eating up resources???
I've set the "tap x to close programs" setting but it doesn't seem to make any difference and I really hate having to press that little "x" key in the top right corner with my big thumbs!!! I also checked out the "Raphael Tweaks" but nothing on there either.
Anyone got any ideas????
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Is there any way I can configure the 'back' button on my Pro to actually, close programs instead of just leaving them running in the background eating up resources???
I've set the "tap x to close programs" setting but it doesn't seem to make any difference and I really hate having to press that little "x" key in the top right corner with my big thumbs!!! I also checked out the "Raphael Tweaks" but nothing on there either.
Anyone got any ideas????
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I use WkTask manager that actually close programs with back button.
Disable HTC task manager and install WkTask (freeware).
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I use WkTask manager that actually close programs with back button.
Disable HTC task manager and install WkTask (freeware).
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Cheers mate. This may be a stupid question but how do I disable the HTC task manager?
I use QuickMenu to close task with the back button.
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Cheers mate. This may be a stupid question but how do I disable the HTC task manager?
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Start -> Settings -> System -> Task Manager
Select "Button" from the tabs and uncheck both check boxes.
Done.
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I use QuickMenu to close task with the back button.
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I think every task manager which does it's job will do that, exept the HTC Task Manager crap.
OK this is really getting me down now!!!
these various task managers, like the default HTC app, all close the application when you TOUCH the 'x' button but they don't do it if you press the hardware <- 'back' button??
I also notice that unlike my Artemis when you go into settings -> buttons only 1 button action, Button 1 (hold), is available. where the other 3 buttons are is a mystery button 1 btw turns out to be the phone send button.
So my question is two fold, before I throw my TP out the nearest window...
1. does anybody know of a way to configure a TP so that when you press the back button it actually closes the application?
2. anybody know if there is a registry key or someway to add the other 3 hardware buttons to the settings -> buttons configuration app??
Pls help before I go totally MAD!!!
-Axel
Hooooo Rahhhhhhhh I found a solution... and it's called HandySwitcher from Dinar Soft and it works perfectly. You have to pay for it but I would willingly pay 10 times the 10 Euro price tag to keep my sanity!!!
You could try AE Button Plus to map different functions to existing buttons (including single, double, triple click and long press).
I've never used wktask, omg.. Why?
Its so nice... thanks for this thread lol
only thing I miss is the memory usage in % that htc task manager got
Not tried AE Buttton but I did try WKTask and I thought the interface was a bit "clunky" to be honest but more importantly the hardware mode didn't work so using the <- button didn't actually close the applications which was what I was looking for.
I just switched to 6.5 from 6.1. The one thing I am noticing here is that in 6.1 most programs ended when I hit the x button on the right. On 6.5 though, when I hit the OK button on the bottom right, most programs remain open. I would love to be able to close by hitting the OK button. I have the option checked to close programs when the x button is hit. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
The reason programs closed when the X button was tapped on 6.5.0, 6.1, and all WM builds prevously was because the X button was in the top right corner. By default, WM will NOT close applications with the X button, but HTC's Task Manager did. However, now that the X button has been moved, HTC task manager can no longer close programs from the X button.
As of now, there's no known solution to this, other than manually closing the programs from the Quick Menu on the Today Screen (tap the top right corner on the today screen, and make sure it's enabled in "Task Manager" under System Settings) or going to any task manager and closing all of the programs.
program minimize rather then closing because
pda's generally have slower io then pc's so keeping then open mean if one start them again mean they start much faster
it's a common misconception that having more memory makes a faster pda
as programs don't use more mem then they require
the system will close unused apps if new started apps require more mem
then is free at the moment
the whole deal really comes down to people not fully understanding how ppc's
working and knows a bit more about how pc's work and assume it's the same deal
thanks for the clarification all
I've tried a bunch of new 6.5 UI roms and I am facing this problem with all of them.
1. The OK button (bottom right) does not close applications. It simply minimizes them. This is really frustrating since I dont know what apps are open until i pull up the task manager. This also drains battery life. How do i make the OK button close an app? (detailed instructions appreciated)
2. The earlier UI used to have a quick task manager on the top right corner from which we could switch apps and close them. that doesnt come anymore, instead i get this new and useless notification bar. How do i make it show the quick task manager? (detailed instructions appreciated)
The above 2 make it really annoying to switch/close apps because once u minimize, the only way to go back to them it seems is to pull up dot fred task manager.
3. Pressing the home button on the device while running an app (the home iconed hardware button under the screen) takes me to the opened start menu not the home screen. when i exit out of the start menu it takes me back to the app, so i cannot access my homescreen unless i press ok on the app and minimize it, is there any way to make the hom button take me to the homescreen?
Thank you in advance?
1 & 2 : use showcase : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4030896
3 : use end button instead of home (which is an HTC non-sense, get the start menu like your rom is configured is really a better idea)
fantastic app - showcase. that solves my task manager problem, but i still have to press start, go to apps and press showcase to bring it up, can i have it mapped on the notification area so i can simply fire it up without having to go to the start menu?
thanks.
I have been having issues with Showcase not wanting to install or run properly on the newest 6.5 build 23071. If I load v1.0.1 It will work for the most part and I can configure it to still to close a program by clicking on the clock.. How ever when I switch to the newer 1.1.0 build I can not get the lower X to close thing like it should by either holding it or by setting to single tap.
I'm currently doing a hard reset because of trying taskfacade and trying to go back to Showcase.
i just installed 1.1.0 and it seems to be working fine. i even managed to figure out how to bring it up from any app. just tap and hold the win key and it comes up. very nice software.
Ya I have it back up and working. The only other issue to look forward to with Showcase is that some report it closing tmail.exe from time to time. I also map my PTT short press to open it for those programs that take the full screen and do not have the Windows icon.
You can also check out AEButton+. You have to pay for it, but it's pretty cheap. I got it last week, and have no idea why I didn't get it sooner. Haven't tried it on the newer com3 builds yet (still using com2), but I'm pretty sure it will close things. It isn't tied into the displaced 'X' button like a lot of task managers. You can close apps with a button push, and it also has a nice little task manager pop-up that you can also map to a button push (similar to the htc quick menu). You also get ~dozen more mappable button pushes on a fuze. It's really worth it, although I haven't tried a com3/4 6.5 build yet.
Newer WM6.5.1 builds such as 23071... clicking on the clock brings up the new drop down taskbar...
Running HTC Task Manager, you have to tap and hold, then release to get the task manager to shop up. Does Showcase experience this as well?
It seems to be with the new builds. I would assume Showcase would function the same.
Why don't you people just use inbuilt taskmanager.exe from Windows folder? I've configured it to open with long press "send" key (talk button), and it's working great.
I use aebutton and tie it to my Ok/Back key to close apps and it's working like a treat. that's the best way to really close apps I feel
i have a custom winmo 6.5 rom aslo, everything runs good on it, except the onscreen keyboard is useless now, all i can seem to enter are numbers only and i have messed with the input settings to see if that can correct it and so far to no avail or maybe im just one of the weird people who actualy use the onscreen compact qwerty i dunno.