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Hi all,
I am new to the forum and am in the process of updating my Next G phone. I am limited by time as my current phone [Blackberry Bold 9000] is fast becoming unusable and I will have to make a choice quickly, maybe tomorrow. The HD2 impressed me, especially with the Roms being developed and available. Making Windows more user friendly and taking the phone to its best. Talking with my phone provider - Telstra, they informed me that the HTC Desire is just now on the market and I am reading glowing reports on the latest Android system and the Desire... So I have been researching all I can on these 2 phones. I have only a little Windows mobile experience from some years ago with an Imate, however have no experience with the Android system.
I don't plan on returning to Blackberry and have narrowed my choice to ether the HD2 or the Desire... This phone will be on a renewed 24 month business contract, so is a phone I will "be with" for sometime! I do understand many of the criticisms of Windows mobile and the very positive reaction to the latest Android system. Also that the all new Windows 7 will be available later in the year. The Desire reads very well in its specs and the few reviews that are available have it as the one to beat for 2010? The HD2 has had much more reviews and comment available, having been on the market longer. Many people satisfied with the phone in standard form [and some not so] and many very happy with it in its modified form with custom Rom.... My decision doesn't seem easier.
Some areas I am thinking on are - Will the HD2 become dated quickly, with fewer windows 6.5 apps and less dev work once the totally new Windows 7 becomes available and the new handsets reach the market? Does this make the current Desire with its latest Android system a better long term option as it is not faced with the release of a whole new operating system just around the corner within its brand and apps and updates will continue to grow? Part of me is saying go with my original choice of the HD2 and its big screen, with a custom Rom. AND, part of me is saying go with the new Android Desire.... ohhh and yes I have read reference to Dev work being done on Windows 7 for the HD2 [That's a potential plus]
Unfortunately I am not in a situation of being able to handle and get to know these phones pre purchase. However would be interested to hear the thoughts of others ie: what would have you chose one over the other?
cheers,
Cam...
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I would prefer Leo
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I've had both What do you want it for? If you need WM for office use get the HD2 otherwise get the desire! Android is much better in a social aspect I would say. The only thing I like about the HD2 was the Sense overlay and it is the same if not better on the desire
Oh and there is a gameboy advanced emulator on the desire which works great... just in case that would be a deciding factor for you
pympster said:
I've had both What do you want it for? If you need WM for office use get the HD2 otherwise get the desire! Android is much better in a social aspect I would say. The only thing I like about the HD2 was the Sense overlay and it is the same if not better on the desire
Oh and there is a gameboy advanced emulator on the desire which works great... just in case that would be a deciding factor for you
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Morphgear and Fpsece work well on the HD2.
I must say I prefer the look of the HD2 and the bigger screen, but android is just that much better than WM and thus think you should get the desire.
I am a farmer/rancher and also have a small business importing workwear/casual wear from the USA. I will use the phone for accessing manufacturer websites. Storing photos of my products. Recording expenses, checking weather updates. Email and Instant messaging... I do travel from time to time and recently sat next to a guy on a flight who was wathcing James Bond movies on his Ipod touch. That was neat I did contact HTC Australia a month ago, to see if the HD2 would be released with Android here Down Under, but was told not planned at present and my contact and interest would be passed on. Of course thats what is always said. I have to think long term use out of this phone ie: to 24 months - The Desire seems a great choice, however would the HD2 with an aftermarket custom Rom be equally as good? Which is the best rom around right now? Will Windows 6.5 App availability continue to rise once Windows 7 hits the streets or will it taper off? Android Apps I am sure will continue to grow...
I have a Leo, so far i love it in every way possible. I had an android device before and i think they are a lot easier to use. Yet i still wouldn't trade my Leo for the world
Yes, my personal preference is Android. WM has always proved to be too slow and buggy for me. But hey, it's all about YOUR preference. You can't really go on what we say. 10/10 of us might say get one phone, and you might get it and hate it. Too bad you can't try before you buy on cell phones. :/
I totally agree and am not looking to be told what direction to take. More intertested in hearing why others would choose one phone over the other...
Yep woud great to handle both phones and see them working. I live rural, tho did get into Telstra shop to take a look, but had nothing for me to see working.
Cheers.
cam0063 said:
I totally agree and am not looking to be told what direction to take. More intertested in hearing why others would choose one phone over the other...
Yep woud great to handle both phones and see them working. I live rural, tho did get into Telstra shop to take a look, but had nothing for me to see working.
Cheers.
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I never buy a phone I didn't get to at least play with first. All the videos and reviews in the world couldn't change that.
I like that policy too. However when u live rural, somethings are not possible and research is your best tool...
I would go with the Desire. The HD2 is running Windows Mobile 6.5, which is still pretty much the same underlying Windows CE kernel that's been in use since Windows Mobile 5. Because been confirmed that the HD2 will not recieve an offical Windows Mobile 7 upgrade, meaning your new shiny phone will be obsolete by the end of the year, you likely be stuck with this obsolete operating system forever if you buy this device. The only option would be an unofficial port of Windows Phone 7 to the HD2, but I'm not sure how that is coming along lately.
Conversely, Android is constantly undergoing development, and seeing as the Desire is a top of the line Android device, updates to the latest versions of Android are pretty much guaranteed for that device. The Desire will probably have support for longer than the HD2, considering it won't be obsolete only a few months after you bought it.
I don't think that you could go wrong when choosing a new device, as they're both top of the line smartphones with grade A hardware and XDA behind them, but IMO the Desire is the superior of the two.
cam0063 said:
I like that policy too. However when u live rural, somethings are not possible and research is your best tool...
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Lol, you're talking to a guy who would drive at least an hour no question, just to play with a phone to make sure I liked it. You can't be THAT rural. Can you? o.o
Thanks Dave, I do appreciate all you have said. I did read that Microsoft was not going to allow Windows 7 to be installed on the HD2 and that there were devs out there working on Windows 7 as an unofficial OS for the HD2. The desire is a great option and makes sense, especially for the obvious reasons you mention... I have managed to gain a couple of extra days to make a decision, as I will not be in a mobile service area and not in desperate need of the phone till Monday. Thanks again...
Hi R3s,
I take it you havent been to Australia? At present I am a 6 hour round trip from the nearest Telstra shop. [Telstra is the contracted provider of these phones right now.] Also a week ago, on a visit to the nearest Telstra shop to my home - a 2 hour return trip, I was informed there will be no shop demos available of these phones, only the non functioning store dummies! Which is the norm... I will travel 6 hours for a beer, but not 6 hours to look at a phone!, especially a store dummy So I will keep researching.
I have a choice between an HD2 or a Nexus one by trading someone for it. Which one should I get and why?
I'm gonna say nexus one even though the hd2 has android now by way of unnoficial means. I don't know if everything is fully working and will continue to work but windows mobile is pretty meh. Its always flustered t6he crap out of me albeit the hardware wasn't HD2 levels. But if you like windows or your one of those serious business types then HD2 for you.
I would really like the hd2 since Android is now possible on it. I just don't know how stable it is at the moment. Can anyone tell me what works on hd2 and what doesn't?
It's still a bit far from being fully compatible. Pretty much everything works but with certain conditions. For example, the Desire ROM IMO runs everything (even the camera), but it's not compatible with certain Windows Mobile Roms and even the factory ROM isn't fully compatible. The battery isn't lasting as long when running Android either. You're probably going to want to get a Class 6 Micro SD for it if you want some speed added to it too. IMO it's pretty damn close to being fully compatible and I feel glad I got the HD2 over the Nexus one after seeing how close it is to having Android ported to it. Still, don't go for it if THAT is the only reason you want it. Android will not be 100% done it. It'll still have moments where it could freeze and you have to manually reset it. For all we know, the developers could just get pissed and quit developing for it tomorrow so I suggest not depending on it being fully done.
I picked up Nexus three months ago...since I'm not that patient regarding firmware updating...Nexus being a real google phone relaly got me then, so after painfully deciding for something like, two weeks, i bought nexus...
if flashing newly cooked ROMS on a regular basis and feeling excited but whatever new things come out and eager to try them first, go nexus.
Leo all the way!
You have all the benefits of a mature stable business OS: WM, plus the chance to test young funny Android
I Agree with orb... I thought about selling my leo and getting nexus, but the leo seems to like me more. ;D
Leo!!
And I forgot to mention it´s great super screen!!
Nexus one ftw!!!
I'd get an HD2 since they don't make the Nexus anymore.
I am a HD2 owner, but if I had the chance to go back in the past, I would probably choose the Nexus One. However, I like both very much, but the "Google Experience" is much more attractive than win mobile 6.5.
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I'd get an HD2 since they don't make the Nexus anymore.
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I'm trading someone for a Nexus One if I choose to do so. I primarily want Android on my phone btw.
Bump, I'm leaning towards the hd2 at the moment
Keep leaning cause its the most bad ass phone I've ever used or seen. Its guarantee'd to be a show stopper at work and make all your iphoney coworkers slink off into a corner with their iapps to make themselves feel better.
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Bump, I'm leaning towards the hd2 at the moment
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Keep on Leo´s line!!
Now you can have Android on it
If you want to use Android, go for nexus. Yes you can have Android on HD2. I tried it on my TD2 also, but the battery life was horrible, and the phone gets really really hot, when used, and no call sounds at all.
Hopefully this will get better, but nobody can be sure if the port to android for WM devices will be fully functional in the future at all.
You will have a better android 2.2 FroYo experience on the Nexus.
They both have problems, nexus one is cursed with touch button problem (not sure in the new ones) anyway, the one I had was cursed with the problem. Hd2 i can not say, but will be receiving one soon. only problem is with the hd2 that People can't use windows Mobile and cry about " I want android" other than that its a good phone.
I have both.
Touchscreen on HD2 is kinda flaky at best even after hacking, but the HUGE screen is a big plus for reading e-books.
Nexus one has Trad Chinese interface out of the box, no custom ROM required. All you have to do is to get IME.
It's all about mobile OS preference. If you prefer Android 2.2, go for nexus one, but if you're T-Mobile US customer, wait for HTC Vanguard.
I bought an HD2 through upgrading my mobile contract last week and I returned it in six days for a Nexus one (bought from a private seller). Windows Mobile home screen looks nice but that's about it. The layout of OS is extremely confusing and takes a long while to get use to. The screen is very nice but wasnt enough to keep me from returning the phone. I also installed Android on the phone but it will still be a while to fix all the bugs and there are plenty and it just never feels right in terms of stability. Go with the nexus one. It is awesome. If the HD2 initially came with official android, HD2 all they way.
I am trying to decide on a new phone. The carrier is not an issue, I've had a rooted mytouch, a rooted nexus one, stock evo4g, and currently now have an epic 4g. Multimedia and apps are very important to me, the iphone4 looks good, but my current phone my be better. Am thinking about a windows phone but don't know anything about them. Any suggestions?
If you are looking to mod/play with your phone do not choose a winmo7 phone.. Not quite yet. It simply is what it is and they are so new the apps are not there yet. As far as apps the iPhone in sheer quantity has the most but Android is where the devs are turning to more and more. There are also a lot of apps on android that are not on an iPhone. The new Nexus S is an amazing fast device as I have been playing around with mine and the SAMOLED with its curves and anti smear screen IMO out plays the iPhone4s smaller not quite as bright seeming screen. I work at att and see the thing every day and still feel Samsung has really got the best screen (apps). Windows has done well with this new operating system but is still very new, Apple will be Apple, blackberry is great for non-Gmail email and Android will let people play with what they wanna play with. Depends totally what you plan on doing beyond media and apps
I say go for the HTC Leo. Great perfomance, great screen, and it runs WM 6.5, WM 6.5.x, Android, and soon hopefully WP7
frenkieh said:
I say go for the HTC Leo. Great perfomance, great screen, and it runs WM 6.5, WM 6.5.x, Android, and soon hopefully WP7
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Buying a device with the intent of running two officially unsupported OSs probably isn't the best idea...
Have a look on my signature link you can see what is member prefferences on the best device of 2010
Leo here
Nexus S.
10char
AdrianK said:
Buying a device with the intent of running two officially unsupported OSs probably isn't the best idea...
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If they work why not? He already rooted his old phone so I dont think he ios adverse to playing around and bringing out a phones true potential.
I would say the MyTouch 4G.
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The branded galaxy S phones have the best multimedia support but you already got one so...
Best apps however, go for an iPhone 4. Unfortunately, you can't have the best of both worlds.
samsung galaxy S
Blackberry 9700
Blackberry 9700 Bold.
If you like to experiment with different OS buy Leo and if you don't like it, soon you'll like
HTC of Iphone, anything else is a dissapointment
Well if you don't mind waiting this summer there are going to be a ton of dual core phones our for us to choose from.
Right now I'm rocking a Nexus 1 with 233; I'm going to wait a bit and see what comes out later and see what comes.
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Atrix 4G or Motorola Droid Bionic. Better than the iPhone 4 I am using
evo 3d looks great
You can post for opinions and help in the which should be my next phone thread.
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Hello everyone;
hope you keeping well, I have HTC Touch Pro in mean time and I wanna replace it, so with what I should replace it, HD7 or Hd2 or HTC Touch Pro2 ? Please help me decide one and why?
Thanks in advanced
You really want WP7 without basic features? For example: No SD Card support, no copy and paste, no default browser selection, no multitasking.
WM6.5 is not supported by Microsoft, so there willn't be any new updates.
Think about alternative platforms Android, Bada OS.
But if you really want Windows, I'd choose HD2.
First of all are you a tmobile customer? Most likely I'd say. But give some more options to choose from. Hd2 and touch pro 2 are both outdated already. Even though hd 7 looks pretty tempting but nah windows phone 7 is still a pretty weak platform. Consider buy a g2 or my touch 4g or vibrant 4g instead. But here of you decide the vibrant make sure it's vibrant 4g not the original one ok?
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out of those two id choose the hd7..its much more current hardware wise and it has the newer version of the windows mobile os...also in response to AdmcPL, those features arent available now but they will be released in a major update due out this spring, and even more features will be out in another update later this year
Why not go with the HTC Desire HD?
It's basically the same phone as the HD2, but comes with FroYo
I'd say HD7 is good , but not good enough .. wait and get something like dual core with better screen .. because soon HD2 & HD7 will be last gen. smartphones.
good luck anyway
If you have only these 3 options I'd go for the HD2 without any hesitation (I had one before my Z and had a Touch Pro before that one). You'll be able to flash all kinds of ROMS and install almost every OS on it (Android, WP7 etc.). There's a lot of support for this device.
Touch Pro2: only if you want to keep both a hard keyboard and WM. Otherwise forget it. Too old as already said by a previous poster.
HD7: I really don't like WP7. It looks so boring and ugly. Will there be as much applications and development as for Android or WM? I don't think so but that's just my opinion.
On the other way if you are not against other options I'd suggest you to buy an Android device like the Desire Z or HD as Android is really the best OS. You could install it on the HD2 but IMO the physical buttons are not appropriate and make the user experience less pleasant than with the soft keys on Android devices. I noticed immediately the difference when I switched from my HD2/Android to my Desire Z.
Hope it'll be helpful
GYIVIjuNkY said:
out of those two id choose the hd7..its much more current hardware wise and it has the newer version of the windows mobile os...also in response to AdmcPL, those features arent available now but they will be released in a major update due out this spring, and even more features will be out in another update later this year
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I doubt that there is any difference in hardware between HD7 and HD2 except for the kickstand in HD7.
But if anybody would ask me I will tell then to get HD2.
It can run WM6.5, Android and WP7 as good as any other phone.
@all thank u so much guys seriously I'm so greatful , and yes I will go and buy the HD2 today. I'll give my touch pro away I really liked the keyboard on it, guess ill buy external keyboard for the HD2 and for andorid I don't know didn't really use it that much but ill give it a shoot on my next HD2 hehe ... Thank you so so much
Which phone can be a good replacement for my HD2 phone ?
What matters for me:
1- Screen size (I got used to big screens, no way to go smaller again )
2- speed
3- Android
4- Bugs free
5- Excellent battery life
6- budget (400-600 USD)
Nakkoush said:
Which phone can be a good replacement for my HD2 phone ?
What matters for me:
1- Screen size (I got used to big screens, no way to go smaller again )
2- speed
3- Android
4- Bugs free
5- Excellent battery life
6- budget (400-600 USD)
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How are you bored with an HD2? If you want Android you can install it on it (either dual-boot or permanent install). No bugs or anything at all. You can even install WP7 OS on it.
Which provider do you have now?
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Nakkoush said:
Which phone can be a good replacement for my HD2 phone ?
What matters for me:
1- Screen size (I got used to big screens, no way to go smaller again )
2- speed
3- Android
4- Bugs free
5- Excellent battery life
6- budget (400-600 USD)
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I highly recommend the HTC Inspire. I feel it is the only phone that is an actual upgrade to the venerable HD2. But you might look into a Sensation before buying an Inspire. The Sensation is supposed to be HTC's newest flagship phone. The Inspire (aka Desire HD) was HTC's previous flagship phone.
Your kidding right? the HD2 can do EVERYTHING why would you want any other phone that can only do just 1 OS?
Nakkoush said:
Which phone can be a good replacement for my HD2 phone ?
What matters for me:
1- Screen size (I got used to big screens, no way to go smaller again )
2- speed
3- Android
4- Bugs free
5- Excellent battery life
6- budget (400-600 USD)
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Okay how can you just throw this phone away and switch just like that? There's nothing wrong with your HD2 as far as you've let on and it's capable of doing every one of those things. It may not have the greatest battery life, but you can always get another battery or an extended battery for less than $100.00 instead of shelling out $400.00 or even $600.00 for an entirely new phone. The HD2 can run Android, and it can run Gingerbread while a large majority of the current Android smartphones don't even have Gingerbread and can't even be fully unlocked down to the bootloader. And now you're complaining about this? How do you know if you spend all that money on a brand new phone you're not just going to get bored of that one? The HD2 is also bugs free, you just have to read the forums and use the search to solve all your problems if you encounter any. As well as reading the first post. It upsets me when I see someone that can get so quickly bored and switch to a device that will probably not nearly have any potential that sizes up to the HD2. Windows Phone, Windows Mobile, Android, Ubuntu, it's incredible that all of those things bore you.
I agree with all of the above comments expounding the HD2's virtues.
I'm at the end of my current contract (in the UK phones tend to be bundled with contracts using the curious work "free") and shopping around I haven't found a phone that gives a good reason to loose the flexibility that my HD2 offers. Yes, I would like a front facing camera and perhaps some more internal memory (Euro HD2's aren't blessed with 1GB) but that's about it.
If your bored with it, change it for an HD2 running one of many different flavours. In Android, experiment with launchers.
Bugs? In the Android world, it looks like AGPS is almost cracked and a few drivers aren't terribly efficent - I'm trying to think what other bugs still remain that I've stumbled upon but don't see it.
What is it your trying to achieve?
If it's the `newness` thing... question your motivation before leaping to something else but if you find something right for you, seize it and enjoy it.
If you really must buy a new cell phone I would go with the new Galaxy S2. I have't used it yet but it looks amazing.
I agree with the comments above though, if there is nothing wrong with it just stick with it until it dies or we get quad core in our phones .
Samsung Galaxy S II
Yeah, Samsung galaxy S II would be a great one and a long term investment.
6- Front camera (forgot to add)
I've been using my HD2 for more than a year, on a daily bases on site and it is becoming old & full of scratches... you know
My wife recently got the Galaxy S2, amazing phone, incredibly fast and I am simply jealous
I though initially of buying another HD2 but come on... life moves on
I found myself eventually using only Android... so having Windows mobile / Windows Phone / Ubunto / etc.. are not an issue for me anymore... I need an atomic Android phone that can be rooted, tweaked, modded and hacked doesn't matter whether it is HTC or not.
However thanks dudes for your hot & tempting replies, I may change my mind now and just replace my HD2 cover & screen protector and keep it again for another while