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Hi all,
Sorry if this has been answered before!
Does anyone know if its possible to install an Android rom on the HTC HD2? That phone with android would be amaazing.
Thanks!
Not without a whole lot of work.
It is definitely a waste of that hardware to put wincrap on it.
The one reason I would NOT contribute to running android on that device is that every one of those devices that HTC sells, some amount of your $$ gets sent to microshaft, so strictly from the perspective of "I absolutely will NEVER give ONE THIN DIME to those greedy evil bastards", I would ignore the hardware and not do anything that could potentially boost its sales.
Always possible with XDA Dev...see this active thread in the Leo section:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578575
Thanks for the responses...
Yeah I would love to see Android 2.0 on a Snapdragon processor. I too have a distaste for contributing to MS by purchasing an HD2, but it would be worth it
I get the feeling the recently confirmed "Google Phone" will infact be a modification of the HD2. The thing is, it's so fricken perfect in terms of form factor, I hope they don't make it worse in an attempt to make it distinguishable different from the original
Fingers crossed. And thanks, Ill check out that link.
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Not without a whole lot of work.
It is definitely a waste of that hardware to put wincrap on it.
The one reason I would NOT contribute to running android on that device is that every one of those devices that HTC sells, some amount of your $$ gets sent to microshaft, so strictly from the perspective of "I absolutely will NEVER give ONE THIN DIME to those greedy evil bastards", I would ignore the hardware and not do anything that could potentially boost its sales.
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So do you own an HTC HD2 or not? If as you say you shouldn't have one, and how you would know if Android is not easy to install on HD2?
You can hate MS as we all do, but don't bad mouth a great piece of hardware, which maybe great if it runs Android.
wouldnt it easier to buy the nexus one ?
specs are close enough ....
maybe the release of this will make a port easier
http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2010/01/26/htc-supersonic-htc-a9292-render-and-live-picture/
I too, would like to see an android release on the HTC HD2... I really expected more from winmo 6.5
i hope there will be a port for winmo6.5 on hd2
We're all waiting for this mate.
Better be aware of who you support
lbcoder said:
Not without a whole lot of work.
It is definitely a waste of that hardware to put wincrap on it.
The one reason I would NOT contribute to running android on that device is that every one of those devices that HTC sells, some amount of your $$ gets sent to microshaft, so strictly from the perspective of "I absolutely will NEVER give ONE THIN DIME to those greedy evil bastards", I would ignore the hardware and not do anything that could potentially boost its sales.
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You complain about MS but think that Google is better? Really! You might want to check into the politics and beliefs of the Google CEO Eric Schmidt. In one of his most recent interviews he stated that he saw nothing wrong with controlling the news available to users via it's home page and search engine. Funnier yet is that they complain about China's censorship, I guess he beliefs censorship is ok as long as he is the censor.
Anyway, didn't mean for this to become a rant, but Google is no better than MS when it comes to attempting to control a market. Windows & Palm were first on the scene with smart phones and both of their operating systems have grown tremendously. I would even say that Apples iPhone OS would not be as intuitive today if it were not for MS and Palm.
Do you really want to port your own version of Android to HD2? It will never be as smooth and fast compared to say just buying an HTC Supersonic.
Also, what do you do with it when everybody has moved to Android 3.0? You won't have any support for it. The ROM Cook may no longer be interested with porting Android 3.0 to what would have been an old outdated piece of hardware in a year's time.
You're better off just buying an HTC Supersonic. At least you could pray that HTC would give you future Android versions when they become available.
I've played with a Nexus one and a HD2. The hardware is not close in my opinion. The supersonic (Evo) looks great but it's cdma.
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The supersonic (Evo) looks great but it's cdma.
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I'm sure (or at least hopeful) that a GSM version will be available later. It's a shame to have such an excellent spec hardware not available to the rest of the world.
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I'm sure (or at least hopeful) that a GSM version will be available later. It's a shame to have such an excellent spec hardware not available to the rest of the world.
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Really! I've gotten so tired of my Pro2 with WM 6.5, I would buy one in a heartbeat if it was GSM and supported my carrier's 3G. But of course, AT&T has to get the worst Android phones in history in its lineup while forgetting about HTC completely.
If the only thing to edit is the radio rom, shouldn't be such a big deal for all the developers here.
Really looking forward to my HD2 running android!!
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Really! I've gotten so tired of my Pro2 with WM 6.5, I would buy one in a heartbeat if it was GSM and supported my carrier's 3G. But of course, AT&T has to get the worst Android phones in history in its lineup while forgetting about HTC completely.
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I hope you know why At&t doesn't want htc smartphones on their lineup? The reason is because they dont want any htc phones to destroy the iphone. Which is true...sales will drop if a htc 4"3 screen showed up. Not to mention apple is sueing htc.
I just noticed the HTC desire has almost identical specs as the HD2, except for the screen size, most of it is the same, both are gsm....cant they port the android os from the desire on to the HD2..??
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I just noticed the HTC desire has almost identical specs as the HD2, except for the screen size, most of it is the same, both are gsm....cant they port the android os from the desire on to the HD2..??
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i want to know this as well .
Android for the hd2 ?
windows mobile isnt what i expected at all . A total failure (WM6.5 )actually IMHO
Think the Droid Incredible ROM would work on a HD2?? I don't know if it being from Verizon would make a difference or not. BTW - Droid Incredible is the strangest name for a phone EVER!!
Very shortly I will be binning my iPhone and purchasing a HTC device running Android.
I have chosen to go with HTC because of their Sense UI - no other manufacturer appears to have developed anything than can compete with this.
The only thing delaying this switch is my failure to yet decide which handset to go with.
I am looking for a top end device so the front runners at the moment are the Desire and Desire HD
Specification wise the Desire HD handset gets the win but this device isn't quite as portable as the original Desire and it appears to be agreed across the board that the HD's battery life isn't the best having only been afforded 1230 mAh whilst the original Desire has 1400 mAh, despite the HD having the larger screen and more processing power.
So its a toss up between the two, and I really am stuck.
I'd welcome any advice to help my decision or more importantly, bearing in mind the HD has been out for almost 4 months, surely there is a top end HTC Android device in the pipeline due for release in the very near future??
I have seen mention of Android 2.4 and 3.0 in other threads...has anyone come across mention of HTC releasing a handset this spring that will be running the new Android platform??
Well,you can expect them to announce the Desire HD2,aka Pyramid,at the MWC,but release date will probably be later on,most likely April or something.Right now,if you want a compromise between the DHD and the classical Desire(I have both and I can tell you the DHD is far superior performance wise,and battery isn't bad at all as second generation Snapdragons are much less power hungry) the Desire Z might be a good choice for you.Don't let the 800MHz processor fool you;it's as much a beast as the DHD is!Unless you can't put up with the hardware keyboard!
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Very shortly I will be binning my iPhone and purchasing a HTC device running Android.
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Good on you!
As for the battery life for Desire HD, it's not bad. I charge every night if I used the phone heavily through the day. For it's screen size battery is reasonable and I find phone very easy to carry around, it's quite slick.
New phones are just around the corner and I can't honestly say if right NOW is the best time to buy a new phone, especially such a expensive phone. If you don't mind then the Desire HD is one heck of a beast!
But these new phones will probably cost close to a grand, for that much you can build yourself a i7/i5 machine lol.
Yeah I've just read a few articles about HTC announcing the Desire 2 and Desire HD 2. Apparently both will be announced at the MWC tomorrow!!!
So you'd expect these new devices to hit UK shores around about April? I'll definitely wait until then for either the D2 or DHD2 although expect I'll have to fork out quite a bit for one of these sim-free!?!?
Looking forward to some HTC news following the MWC tomorrow!!
Smart move...HTC Rocks!
Just make sure it is Flashable (at least samsung has plans for signed bootloaders preventing custom firmware updates, so make sure your open platform really is open) Desire, Desire Z and DHD are, Desire2 or DHD2 i don't know but one could assume they are also. HTC would not do something as Apple-ish as this, would they?
The reason for this is that while android is the top system for now and sense is indeed great - but check my thread in general discussion - a possible announcement date for Meego, and you probably want to be able to flash to it once released (and ported functionally). All Android apps work on meego using JVM.
+ There are hidden powers in both the DHD and especially Z that is being wasted by 1) Android (whole os implementation, especially the lousy dalvik VM) 2) I have been told Z and DHD have essentially the same chip, the 200mhz difference is mainly market differentiation justifying DHD as the flagship even when lacking qwerty and not gaining much/any advantage from the bigger display since the resolution is the same. Quite the opposite, it makes it bulky and drains more battery... IMO the Z is the flagship model of the current gen and it has been clocked up to ~1,4 ghz stable that i know of)
I for one cannot wait to get Meego running on my Z and unleash the potential of the hardware.
(My advice is forget the old desire and since the next gens being announced don't seem to have a qwerty version go for the Z. It will be on sale or found cheap 2nd hand due to the new ones coming. (you must be a bit of a tech-geek since you are on these forums so you probably will come to appreciate the qwerty even if you don't realize it yet. Some linux desktop version + qwerty almost a laptop makes
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Just make sure it is Flashable (at least samsung has plans for signed bootloaders preventing custom firmware updates, so make sure your open platform really is open) Desire, Desire Z and DHD are, Desire2 or DHD2 i don't know but one could assume they are also. HTC would not do something as Apple-ish as this, would they?
The reason for this is that while android is the top system for now and sense is indeed great - but check my thread in general discussion - a possible announcement date for Meego, and you probably want to be able to flash to it once released (and ported). I for one cannot wait to get it on my Desire Z. Android is kinda messy from a technical POW and sub-optimal in performance.
(What ever you choose, do not let the desire z 800 mhz fool you to think its slower compared to DHD. I am told they have essentially the same chip, and is only market segmentation - The desire Z has been clocked to some 1,516 ghz stable...)
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Edited for accuracy.
OP good move on making the switch to Android, specifically a HTC device.
So I'm hoping for some big news from HTC at the MWC regarding the Desire 2 and/or Desire 2 HD....
I am in the UK so despite there being rumour of the 'Pyramid' seeing an April/May release in the US I am concerned that we will be waiting several months more to see any of these new top end HTC Android handsets over the pond here in the UK.
Any views on this? Or any idea on the wait we might have in UK to see these handsets?
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So I'm hoping for some big news from HTC at the MWC regarding the Desire 2 and/or Desire 2 HD....
I am in the UK so despite there being rumour of the 'Pyramid' seeing an April/May release in the US I am concerned that we will be waiting several months more to see any of these new top end HTC Android handsets over the pond here in the UK.
Any views on this? Or any idea on the wait we might have in UK to see these handsets?
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We seem to get the new HTC phones sooner in the UK than they do in the US so don't worry. More often than not we'll see the original (like the DHD), and then later they get a variety of carrier specific derivitaves like the Inspire 4G.
Personally i'm more interested to see where the Nexus line goes for it's next incarnation. Hopefully back to HTC with a killer Nexus 3
Congratulations, I think the Desire HD looks like a pretty awesome phone. Wish I would have waited a few months before buying the Desire to get the Desire HD.
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We seem to get the new HTC phones sooner in the UK than they do in the US so don't worry. More often than not we'll see the original (like the DHD), and then later they get a variety of carrier specific derivitaves like the Inspire 4G.
Personally i'm more interested to see where the Nexus line goes for it's next incarnation. Hopefully back to HTC with a killer Nexus 3
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With regards to the 4G, I've heard there is very little support for this in the UK?
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With regards to the 4G, I've heard there is very little support for this in the UK?
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NO support as yet. I've heard that some European countries have trials under way though.
Desire HD is cool, possibly a little on the big side coming from an iPhone, but you will soon get used to it. I find occasionally being used to the iPhone I have a bad habit of touching the sides of the screen and activating an app I had no intention of opening. But like I said you get used to it.
I also found that the voice quality of calls is higher than my 3gs used to be, and I have had some trouble getting used to the fact that up until I start to drop calls from bad signal the only loss of voice I get is a small crackle or pop and then a gap in the conversation. It's probably my only gripe. I would like to have less quality voice on degradation of signal, but not lose part of the conversation... still its a great phone and much more fun now I have rooted and modded it.
Hey everyone, I had an HD2, loved that it was hacked to the max with a million roms available, and that it was always updated to the newest android almost immedietly, unfortunately the wifi chip died 2 months later and i had to sell it.
Now im looking for a used phone on ebay basically, budget is max 250-300, the samsung vibrant looked good, but im affraid if i buy it ill be stuck on froyo or gingerbread, and not be able to update to android ice cream end of the year (while im sure the HD2 would be hacked to ice cream immedietly lol)
Seeing as the HD2 left a bad taste in my mouth so to speak, which phone would you recomend that has good dev support and most likely to be able to upgrade down the line? thanks
I have the HTC HD7 and I think you'll like it, the OS is AMAZING!!! And I saw it for 280* around Amazon.com
If you want android, but stick to the hTC family, they you should think about the hTC Desire HD. But if it's too expensive, the X10 from Sony will be also a good choice, and I saw it around 270* on Amazon. But the downside of Android is, that it is not sure when you get updates while WP7 (HTC HD7...) is.
Maybe, you should think about the iPhone, that thing has updates. And WP7 is also easy to update.
Since I don't know where you live and if you are a professional hacker or a noob, I just gave you recommendations that should fir almost anybody.
* New, unused price in EUR. Price may change depending on when you buy.
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EDIT As the guy abov333 said, The x10 is great too! But its best if you flash the miui rom that just came out for it
it adds multitouch and such stuff.
AND Miui On the desire has OTA updates!! :3
The HD2 is an amazing device,
so many hacks available for it c:
i had one But traded it since the size was a little to big for what i like,
I would for sure check if you can get an new HD2 (i mean used x3)
Or maybe the desire HD
Just as the Desire! I have one its an good size and there are tons of roms
just as CM7 and miui
even a sense 3.0 rom is out!
I would look for those since they will help you to continue with hacking in the future
Moon c:
THanks
thanks guys will check them out
I've had a HD2 for over a year and a half now, and have been using Android on it for nearly half that time. I've also played with WP7 on it, and was utterly disappointed. I loved WM6.5 so I expected a LOT from WP7, but it simply didn't deliver.
The Desire HD is the closest thing to a HD2 out there, but is obviously a native Android device. Android does get updated regularly (especially if you're a regular on this site), as I'm sure you know. Seriously, no disrespect to Tuskuno's opinion - I just disagree with it.
I'm just about to get a Samsung Galaxy S II on contract, but if I were going for an off-the-shelf stock phone, it would probably be the Desire HD.
You can't go wrong with getting a Nexus. A Nexus One is like $260 on ebay and has a great development community along with frequent updates because it's a google experience.
Nexus
That was my first choice, then I read about how its not truely multitouch and is problamatic in multitouch games, so i decided against it.
the desire Z (tmobile g2) looks like a viable option, priced around 200 on ebay
If you want to have the latest version of android in your phone, i suggest you pick one supported by Cyanogen. I dont have enought posts yet to include links, but there's a relevant list over at "cyanogenmod dot com slash devices".
its simple just go for the EU version of the Samsung Galaxy S.
sounds good
would love to but its too out of my budget, cant spend a dime over 300
Dude believe me and just stick with the hd2 a lot of development space towork with plus u get the best of three words wp7, wm, Android. The hd7 is virtually the same thing as the hd2 with there old school screens but the hd7 lacks development at the moment.
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Dude believe me and just stick with the hd2 a lot of development space towork with plus u get the best of three words wp7, wm, Android. The hd7 is virtually the same thing as the hd2 with there old school screens but the hd7 lacks development at the moment.
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Have to second that.
Until something as good as the HD2 comes along, I can't think what I'll go for next.
Last year we had the Original Desire, it wasn't long before it was rooted and had plenty of support.
This year we had the Incredible S, The Desire S and the Sensation and its like the Desire S has been forgotten about.
I think it's because the phone is so similar to the incredible s with the incredible s being slightly better. Also by naming it desire s you expect it to carry on the legacy of the original desire which i don't think it pulled off that well.
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I think it's because the phone is so similar to the incredible s with the incredible s being slightly better. Also by naming it desire s you expect it to carry on the legacy of the original desire which i don't think it pulled off that well.
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It didn't carry the legacy of the Desire at all, I'm regretting getting it, it is a fantastic phone but its never gonna get any decent level of support.
Spoke to someone in the trade.They think the desire s will be abandoned by htc meaning no support or updates.Its a major flop hence the cheap deals.They cant give them away.
Problem is it was released at the wrong time, there will be little to no support from hackers either I suspect.
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still a sick phone though.
prolly once the s-off-ing gets released, more people will develop/port to desire S.
my guess is most roms could be ported over easily to DS from IS and DHD
I wonder is the Incredible S having the same issues thanks to the Sensation? I think the Galaxy SII is the Desire of 2011, it'll be the one getting all the support I reckon.
I just hope it'll get S-Off'd so I can root my device
That's all and people are doing that
It's a mid-range phone, so most people will get it, but very little of the dev community on xda will get it unless they are trying to make major developments on it which sucks D:
Is HTC not supposed to be unlocking the boot loader? Or is this just going to be on new phones?
I thought it was just new phones.
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Spoke to someone in the trade.They think the desire s will be abandoned by htc meaning no support or updates.Its a major flop hence the cheap deals.They cant give them away.
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I doubt that very much. The Desire S is stable with no generic problems, updates to sense 3.0 will come in due course, it is something they are working on. Incredible S has not received any updates since the 2.3 update, while the Desire S launched with 2.3. I fail to understand what the fuss is all about
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I doubt that very much. The Desire S is stable with no generic problems, updates to sense 3.0 will come in due course, it is something they are working on. Incredible S has not received any updates since the 2.3 update, while the Desire S launched with 2.3. I fail to understand what the fuss is all about
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@others i am pretty sure the phone will get updates in the future...
& alpharevX team is working on software s-off & have succeeded they will release it in public soon...
Alsoo you can't say anything about it not getting updates no more
I recieved an OTA update just now (like literally 15 minutes ago) and all it adds is **** i don't want. (bloatware). Yayyyy
new software number now = 1.47.161.2
I, like others on this forum, don't really see what the problem is. I came from a Hero and got the Desire S based on its merits as a handset straight out of the box, not what it could be with rooting and modding. As a straight out of the box experience, I've been overjoyed with the performance, look 'n' feel and general use of this phone. I did pay to borrow an XTC clip and s-off'd it quite quickly and as a tinkering handset, it's even better. The important thing is I would have been happy with it as it was... the s-off and root just makes a great handset even greater
The recent (albiet buggy) ports of Miui and Gingerbread/CM7 are evidence that the Desire S has a rich and rommy future
I'm guessing that everyone posting in this thread has a Desire S in which case...
If as me you like the device (which was why I bought it in the first place) then great, I can't see any need to continue adding to this thread.
If you don't - then buy another device or IMO don't continue adding negative posts to threads like this that will mainly be read only by other Desire S owners. It's still too early to predict/guess the level of support the device will get in the future and as the last month should have shown us no-one can accurately predict what HTC will do!
We all have the device and probably will all have it for at least one year, in some cases maybe two so either way we'll have to live with. So let's at least try to be positive!
Best phone Iv had. Coming from the HD2, and more recently the Galaxy S2, I cam honestly say this phone is near perfect. I diched the Galaxy S2 in the end because the touchwiz was in my opinion behind the HTC sense interface. The S2 was buggy and battery life lousy. The des S's build quality it brilliant, has a really quality feel to it. The 3.7 inch screen is also just right.. Hits the sweetspot between portability and usability. Personally I feel the 4" plus screens make the handset to big... Feels like taking a step back. Sure, the S2s hardware beats the desires in everyway, but when it comes to usability.. The desire kills it. For starters, theres no lag when waking up the phone..shockingly there is with the s2 which boasts a dual core processor. To sum up, I feel that the desire s is an awesome handset, not the most powerful, but it's reliable, does the things you want it to and more outa the box..and once s-off'd and sense 3 components added, I feel the phones near perfect. If I had to suggest just one improvement, I'd say keep the phone exactly as it is..but add some dual core muscle.
There.. That's my two pence worth.
No phone will get manufacturer support for more than 18 months or so in the new retail world. As to whether enough modders buy it to make it better, I really don't care much. I'd like HTC to fix a few niggles, but basically that's about it. I don't particularly care if it is upgraded to Android 3.0 either.
I came from the original Desire which I rooted and tried numerous different roms infact I got addicted to flashing not one week would go past without me trying a new Rom
My main qualms with the desire were lack of internal memory and I couldn't wait for gingerbread and sense 2.1
Now the DS has all these features as standard and people are still not happy in time all the custom roms will come you will be able to root and be s-off I'm sure when the original desire came out all these didn't turn up over night
So people please be patient
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I feel that the Desire S is the most attractive HTC phone in general.
I agree, it's pretty looking, robust, not too big.
Hey everyone. So I would like to bring you some discussion here about on what the future holds for our HTC Desire S when it respects to the official HTC support.
The main question here is, what do you think that HTC will do with the Desire S? Will they bring ICS to it? Will they try to be soft and bring just Sense 3.5? Or is our Desire S done and no more updates will come? It would be quite interesting to see what everyone thinks that may happen in the next few months
i doubt very much we will see anymore major official updates ,just maye a few revisions.htc support there phones pretty badly tbh,and as much as i love my desire s and this community i doubt very much i would purchase another one of the htc phones as it will carry on the same legacy i expect .
I think HTC will do nothing. They can't support all the phones they released which is why they've decided to take it slow
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I hope that HTC is still going to release an ICS update for Desire S, but that's probably false hope. HTC has released too many phones (about 5 different versions of the Sensation?) to provide support for every phone. They will just concentrate on the higher-end models, which unfortunately the Desire S isn't. Luckily there is a great community working hard to provide us with future updates
The current/typical market trend IS to take advantage of the thirst for the bleeding-edge OS and the cutting-edge hardware, and as businesses, they'd be mugs for not exploiting that. There is no way HTC had any serious plans for giving the Desire S official ICS ROM. However...
They (HTC) have gotten the balance wrong this year and they know it. Too much quantity, not enough quality. Sooner or later, even the rich kids will get fed up of being 'expected' to upgrade a handset every 8 months to stay 'on trend'.
At least HTC seem to have taken note of this...
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/26/htcs-uk-ceo-wants-to-ease-off-the-new-product-gas-focus-on-am/
Don't forget the original Desire did eventually (through popular demand) get an official gingerbread update, just that HTC never designed the phone's hardware to cope with the increased size of the OS over Froyo. So disclaimers were required should we then complain that there were only enough room for 10 apps once 2.3.3 was installed!
But on the flip-side this is why you chose Android. This is why you chose XDA. You want something that comes out of the box, and gives you the opportunity to improve it in your own way, to your own liking. To take the initiative. We almost need HTC to drop the ball so we can pick it up and run with it.
The day a stock Android phone comes out of the box perfect to everyone's needs for years after its purchase will be a sad day for XDA.
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The current/typical market trend IS to take advantage of the thirst for the bleeding-edge OS and the cutting-edge hardware, and as businesses, they'd be mugs for not exploiting that. There is no way HTC had any serious plans for giving the Desire S official ICS ROM. However...
They (HTC) have gotten the balance wrong this year and they know it. Too much quantity, not enough quality. Sooner or later, even the rich kids will get fed up of being 'expected' to upgrade a handset every 8 months to stay 'on trend'.
At least HTC seem to have taken note of this...
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/26/htcs-uk-ceo-wants-to-ease-off-the-new-product-gas-focus-on-am/
Don't forget the original Desire did eventually (through popular demand) get an official gingerbread update, just that HTC never designed the phone's hardware to cope with the increased size of the OS over Froyo. So disclaimers were required should we then complain that there were only enough room for 10 apps once 2.3.3 was installed!
But on the flip-side this is why you chose Android. This is why you chose XDA. You want something that comes out of the box, and gives you the opportunity to improve it in your own way, to your own liking. To take the initiative. We almost need HTC to drop the ball so we can pick it up and run with it.
The day a stock Android phone comes out of the box perfect to everyone's needs for years after its purchase will be a sad day for XDA.
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what he said..... hit the nail on the head with that one
Fair enough, I would have believed HTC if they released a official statement about Desire S not meeting hardware requirements.
However, hearing that the Sensation XL is receiving ICS really got me annoyed. It proves the hardware is capable.
The XL is almost identical to us, apart from the OC'ed chip, and thats getting ICS.
I don't see why we can't get the upgrade.
Where is HTC's announcement of the second wave of devices that are getting ICS too? We are still yet to hear from them.
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Sorry, i wasn't suggesting that the desire s couldn't cope. I'm pretty sure it could. Just saying that in my opinion it's unlikely HTC will be in a hurry to stop us buying more handsets, and it will be good to see what the devs here manage to port for us.
This week a friend asked me what he should upgrade to this march. He has an old desire, and isn't a heavy user. Not interested in dual cores or massive screens. I looked at all the options and it was still the desire s or the Xperia Ray.
The only reason i recommended the xperia ray was because he HAS to have a Vodafone upgrade. Vodafone's stock ROM on the desire s has that ludicrous 'pocket mode' forced on, and you can't turn it off. 8 hours battery life max. My dad ended up sending his back for that reason. He wouldn't let me root it!
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wnp_79 said:
Sorry, i wasn't suggesting that the desire s couldn't cope. I'm pretty sure it could. Just saying that in my opinion it's unlikely HTC will be in a hurry to stop us buying more handsets, and it will be good to see what the devs here manage to port for us.
This week a friend asked me what he should upgrade to this march. He has an old desire, and isn't a heavy user. Not interested in dual cores or massive screens. I looked at all the options and it was still the desire s or the Xperia Ray.
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No mate, I wasn't ranting at you
I was criticizing HTC for their poor decision. If the XL is getting ICS, we should get it. We have the same specs.
Heck, even the 2010 phone, Desire HD has near identical specs as the XL. Even that, should get ICS..
Silly move by HTC.
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olyloh6696 said:
Fair enough, I would have believed HTC if they released a official statement about Desire S not meeting hardware requirements.
However, hearing that the Sensation XL is receiving ICS really got me annoyed. It proves the hardware is capable.
The XL is almost identical to us, apart from the OC'ed chip, and thats getting ICS.
I don't see why we can't get the upgrade.
Where is HTC's announcement of the second wave of devices that are getting ICS too? We are still yet to hear from them.
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HTC has done many contradictions in the past and sometimes they had to go back in what they said.
First when the Sensation came out people asked if Sense 3.0 would come to older devices then HTC quickly stated that older devices could not run it due to hardware restrictions. Then they released the HTC Rhyme with !GHz CPU and 768MB of RAM running even newer version Sense 3.5. So HTC gave us Sense 3.0 as it was evident that it could run it.
After that we had the Desire 2.3 update. HTC telling people the phone didn't have enough memory for Gingerbread and they had just released the Wildfire S with even worse hardware running Gingerbread from start. So HTC gave people with Desire the 2.3 update.
Then now with ICS. It is obvious that the Desire S can run it (Nexus S...) but with Sense over it and HTC's hesitations over support may lead to no update.
My theory is that when a phone is released it has to be updated to at least one version of Android. The Desire S came out with 2.3 from start so we can believe that it will come to ICS. We will get the answer when HTC reveals the second wave of updates to us.
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HTC has done many contradictions in the past and sometimes they had to go back in what they said.
First when the Sensation came out people asked if Sense 3.0 would come to older devices then HTC quickly stated that older devices could not run it due to hardware restrictions. Then they released the HTC Rhyme with !GHz CPU and 768MB of RAM running even newer version Sense 3.5. So HTC gave us Sense 3.0 as it was evident that it could run it.
After that we had the Desire 2.3 update. HTC telling people the phone didn't have enough memory for Gingerbread and they had just released the Wildfire S with even worse hardware running Gingerbread from start. So HTC gave people with Desire the 2.3 update.
Then now with ICS. It is obvious that the Desire S can run it (Nexus S...) but with Sense over it and HTC's hesitations over support may lead to no update.
My theory is that when a phone is released it has to be updated to at least one version of Android. The Desire S came out with 2.3 from start so we can believe that it will come to ICS. We will get the answer when HTC reveals the second wave of updates to us.
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Very good explanation!
I really do hope that's the case!
I think the DHD is a lucky device... It started with 2.2, got 2.3.3 + New sense 2.1, then another update to 2.3.5 + sense 3.0. If we get ICS, the DHD will have to get ICS (same specs). I don't think HTC want to give the dhd anymore updates
So HTC might choose not to give us ICS for that reason otherwise they would also have to update the DHD.
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olyloh6696 said:
Very good explanation!
I really do hope that's the case!
I think the DHD is a lucky device... It started with 2.2, got 2.3.3 + New sense 2.1, then another update to 2.3.5 + sense 3.0. If we get ICS, the DHD will have to get ICS (same specs). I don't think HTC want to give the dhd anymore updates
So HTC might choose not to give us ICS for that reason otherwise they would also have to update the DHD.
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I may be wrong, but my feeling is that all devices from Desire HD and Desire Z and later will receive the update. The Desire HD was the top phone for HTC of it's time and I don't think HTC will kill it if they decide to give Desire S the update.
The only question here is the all mighty Sense UI and that is HTC's fault because they built a so deeply integrated UI. Honestly I can live without the 3D transitions as ICS actually has its own ones. It will up to what HTC will do with Sense UI.
Dont know about you guys but HTC has always been keep-the-customer-in-dark with Desire S. IMHO I dont know why they do it... I mean it came with sense 2.1 and 2.3 when I bought. After a while some patches and fotas were there but when we got sense 3.0 it was some guys phone which got updated made the news not a disclosure or say news by HTC that its been updated and which makes my geeky mind cheer in the doubt of my mind that we may recieve ICS officially
Now about the thing that here are devs that are doing a hard job to get ICS on ours and imo they have been succesful as in there-was-no-way-but-they-did-it successful. But think if theres an official update what might happen then? I am no dev or **** but as I understand that would made works on other roms ports a heck lot easier...
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I may be wrong, but my feeling is that all devices from Desire HD and Desire Z and later will receive the update. The Desire HD was the top phone for HTC of it's time and I don't think HTC will kill it if they decide to give Desire S the update.
The only question here is the all mighty Sense UI and that is HTC's fault because they built a so deeply integrated UI. Honestly I can live without the 3D transitions as ICS actually has its own ones. It will up to what HTC will do with Sense UI.
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Good explanation, but keep in mind, the Desire Z did not receive the official Sense 3.0 update.
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olyloh6696 said:
Fair enough, I would have believed HTC if they released a official statement about Desire S not meeting hardware requirements.
However, hearing that the Sensation XL is receiving ICS really got me annoyed. It proves the hardware is capable.
The XL is almost identical to us, apart from the OC'ed chip, and thats getting ICS.
I don't see why we can't get the upgrade.
Where is HTC's announcement of the second wave of devices that are getting ICS too? We are still yet to hear from them.
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This is pretty sad, if HTC won't upgrade our Desire S to ICS. I mean, Sony Ericsson has announced and committed to ICS upgrades for their 2011 lineup--and those have the same chipsets as our Desire S! SE's flagship for last year, the Xperia Arc, was launched around the same time frame as our Desire S, with virtually the same Qualcomm chipset. No way HTC can use that excuse, and they know it.
18 months is not yet up for this phone, so if Google is right, we should expect support/updates till around September or so of 2012. As much as I dislike Sense, HTC ought to be ashamed of itself if they won't give us ICS. I can imagine they're in a bind, because they are compelled to give us ICS, but don't want us playing around with the ICS'ed Sense 4.0 and would rather have us get newer, more expensive 4 inch slabs
Come on, HTC. Gain some goodwill among us. Roll out ICS and the latest Sense. You know it makes Sense
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Sony Ericsson has announced and committed to ICS upgrades for their 2011 lineup
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That's the way to go, but just as always magic will not happen and HTC Desire S probably will not get ICS update because of that politic, meanwhile Sony Ericsson goes more democratical way and releases updates for customers, not only "top list'' customers as HTC do. I respect HTC, but the point how they sorts updates by devices is to drastic, just too painful for user like us, who knows what their device is able to do, but they simply do not feed it. To be honest, if HTC Desire S will get official ICS update, then it will mean that HTC is changing their political statement and magic is happening.
You guys havent read the internal leak that confirmed ICS for desire s?
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You guys havent read the internal leak that confirmed ICS for desire s?
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dude, our posts are from days before the leak came out
But thanks for the effort I guess there will hopefully be a strong future for us!
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The current/typical market trend IS to take advantage of the thirst for the bleeding-edge OS and the cutting-edge hardware, and as businesses, they'd be mugs for not exploiting that. There is no way HTC had any serious plans for giving the Desire S official ICS ROM. However...
They (HTC) have gotten the balance wrong this year and they know it. Too much quantity, not enough quality. Sooner or later, even the rich kids will get fed up of being 'expected' to upgrade a handset every 8 months to stay 'on trend'.
At least HTC seem to have taken note of this...
Don't forget the original Desire did eventually (through popular demand) get an official gingerbread update, just that HTC never designed the phone's hardware to cope with the increased size of the OS over Froyo. So disclaimers were required should we then complain that there were only enough room for 10 apps once 2.3.3 was installed!
But on the flip-side this is why you chose Android. This is why you chose XDA. You want something that comes out of the box, and gives you the opportunity to improve it in your own way, to your own liking. To take the initiative. We almost need HTC to drop the ball so we can pick it up and run with it.
The day a stock Android phone comes out of the box perfect to everyone's needs for years after its purchase will be a sad day for XDA.
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He already said what I wanted to said
I like the line "This is why you choose Android and XDA"
Akishima said:
He already said what I wanted to said
I like the line "This is why you choose Android and XDA"
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Well good news anyway:
HTC announced ICS officially for us!
YIPPEE!!!