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Meizu M8 MiniOne

Is this thing for real?
http://www.meizu-minione.info/m8_iphone_comparison.php
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/cellphon...g-8gb-first-gets-70-price-increase-285800.php
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/03/05/details-emerge-on-meizu-m8-minione-pricing/
http://www.intoiphone.com/apple-iphone-competitors-killers
I mean..
>500MHz
720x480 x 24bpp screen
integrated storage >8GB
Windows Mobile 6
WCDMA and GSM
and it starts at $195?
is this some kind of fantasy?

It is real, but it is far from $195, closer to $800. According to them it is scheduled to come out in December but you won't see it until next year.

May i remind you that i've never heard of Meizu before, its a newcomer, expect bugs and even shortcuts...

ayakabob said:
May i remind you that i've never heard of Meizu before, its a newcomer, expect bugs and even shortcuts...
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Meizu has been making MP3 players ( http://en.meizu.com/ ) for 4 years, but that's true: they hasn't made any Windows CE based device ever, until now.

I supose this Phone has Windows CE 6.0 Core, and own GUI so it can be uncompatible with Windows Mobile 6 stuff (CE 5.2)

They are offering another Iphone clone for 169 Euros in the NL. The CECT Clone. So the pricing could be correct.
This will run probably CE 5.2 so we can take all the goodies we have to this phone and from this phone!

croco_64 said:
I supose this Phone has Windows CE 6.0 Core, and own GUI so it can be uncompatible with Windows Mobile 6 stuff (CE 5.2)
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Yes, As I read it doesn't run WM6 but Windows CE 6.0 under a special miniOne GUI so it can't run conventional Pocket PC apps. Unless the miniOne GUI only an app which runs on WM6 but I haven't read about this anywhere, so it isn't likely.

It can run most PPC apps, that's real.

Yeah, multitouch and USB Host / Client
now that's what i call an iPhone killer :O
the functions / ui of the apple phone + the things i love about wm (great community, so much programs, etc.)

I just stopped into a Meizu store today (I live in china) and saw this phone and heard of it for the first time. It looks very cool though. The price is around $350 US and has 8GB and is multi-touch. I think I want one

it definitely looks as the best PMP player and phone together.
if only it could run WM apps, it would rock..

Apps on Meizu
I got my hands on one of these devices and it is pretty slick. There are still lots of bugs in the os, but new versions are still being put out there. It sucks that it does not run WM apps. I have found 2 that work. Coreplayer and TCPMP run well on it, but really are not needed because the integrated player works well.
I am hoping someone will develop a Windows Mobile rom that will run on this device. It would really rock.

i really want this phone. It may not be an HTC phone but Meizu has some big potential.

csasek said:
I just stopped into a Meizu store today (I live in china) and saw this phone and heard of it for the first time. It looks very cool though. The price is around $350 US and has 8GB and is multi-touch. I think I want one
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M8 only GSM, no 3G?
And still in beta version not public market for sell

heehee2001hk said:
M8 only GSM, no 3G?
And still in beta version not public market for sell
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just ordered on of these phones from best deals online in singapore. £689 SGD or bout £311. not sure if i trust site so i put COD. see what happens.someone will develop a rom for that which make it rock. still only available as beta as stated previously due to licensing probs. don't know how they can sell it but i want one. so much potential

M8
you all should look at www.meizume.com

it rocks or not
have seen this Phone
before i am out
to buy my HTC TP2
in some Onlinestore`s
the Technical Data Rocks,
soo i ll say ,
but think, its a big Problem,
with runing, all the Win CE / WIMO
Software, and on a lot of Threads i
read, that the Bugs almost not
solved from one to another Firmware
they always only put
only new Options in
and didnt Solve the Bugs
USB Host OTG i am not sure that is implemtet,
and TV Out, also too not implementet yet.
will wait and give Meizu
a Chance to come with a good Concept !
Stable and Bugfree Sortware and OS
greetings
sad_but_true

WM 7?

Anyone know any specifics about release dates etc? Wouldn't mind changing 6.5 for something a little newer. If I hadn't absolutely hated Nokia and Mac I would've started looking for something else by now
Cheers!

tiwas said:
Anyone know any specifics about release dates etc? Wouldn't mind changing 6.5 for something a little newer. If I hadn't absolutely hated Nokia and Mac I would've started looking for something else by now
Cheers!
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October to November is currently the best guess.
Recent rumours are suggesting that there may be two different versions of WM7, a stripped down "Business" version and a richer "Media" one, with Business being out Q4 this year, and Media not till next year.

if they split it up like that then I wonder why they'd need 6.5 anymore....
I recall first plans were WM 6.5 for media hype and WM 7 for business. Even if I thought this didn't make a lot sense to not have the new OS for media bimm bamm.

Rumours are also that it's no longer based on Windows CE, but on the Zune HD kernel instead; that it WON'T be backwards compatible with earlier versions, and won't run on 99.9% of existing WM devices.

FloatingFatMan said:
Rumours are also that it's no longer based on Windows CE, but on the Zune HD kernel instead; that it WON'T be backwards compatible with earlier versions, and won't run on 99.9% of existing WM devices.
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Well if that rumor turns out to be true then I can only imagine the disappointment of some.

cerebralgenius said:
Well if that rumor turns out to be true then I can only imagine the disappointment of some.
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IF the rumours are true, it'll be a blow for existing software BUT, a good step for Microsof to take. I mean, have you seen the Zune HD's UI? WM7 is meant to be using that, and if so, iPhone is in trouble.

well if it runs .net then at least some apps would work

There is even newer rumor or supposedly unofficial response from microsoft, about this CE rumor. Ant it states, that Wm 7 bill be using CE7. And CE7 was already offcialy announced as to it will be using ARMv6 arhitecture.
And there is a Microsoft Commercial, where you can see some WM7-style thing beeing run on HTC touch Pro, and Xperia X1. So ported it will be, but how fast will it work on such devices, having only MSM7200.

FloatingFatMan said:
Rumours are also that it's no longer based on Windows CE, but on the Zune HD kernel instead; that it WON'T be backwards compatible with earlier versions, and won't run on 99.9% of existing WM devices.
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It's false.
I don't know if it definitely CE7, though it probably is. I am hearing that it can run 6.x apps so long as they are the same resolution. Trying to get more info.

RAMMANN said:
if they split it up like that then I wonder why they'd need 6.5 anymore....
I recall first plans were WM 6.5 for media hype and WM 7 for business. Even if I thought this didn't make a lot sense to not have the new OS for media bimm bamm.
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6.5 is for cheaper, lower-specification hardware. Remember that the HD2 represents the least powerful, lowest resolution device capable of running WM7. Any new WM phone with a hardware spec in any way inferior to the HD2 will run WM6.5 instead of 7.

read this:
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=12237
there's only 1 choice left for us: 100% stable android rom.

Shasarak said:
6.5 is for cheaper, lower-specification hardware. Remember that the HD2 represents the least powerful, lowest resolution device capable of running WM7. Any new WM phone with a hardware spec in any way inferior to the HD2 will run WM6.5 instead of 7.
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I think that Windows Mobile 7 will be ported and modded to run on older HTC devices too

Win_XP said:
I think that Windows Mobile 7 will be ported and modded to run on older HTC devices too
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Yeah, I reeeeeally don't think there will be an official WM7 rom for my Fuze, but I'm hoping the chefs here will be able to make a stripped down version.

Win_XP said:
I think that Windows Mobile 7 will be ported and modded to run on older HTC devices too
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I'm not 100% sure about that. The problem is that Windows Mobile 7 will run on either Windows CE 6 or 7, as opposed to the Windows CE 5 comprising Windows Mobile 5.x and 6.x. Someone will likely have to create nearly every low level component from scratch, so the OS will support the older unsupported hardware. It might be doable, but it won't be as simple as running 6.5 on a WM 6 device. There's a thread here which goes into more detail concerning Windows Mobile 7 on a current generation device (Touch Pro2), and it doesn't look good.

malatesta said:
It's false.
I don't know if it definitely CE7, though it probably is. I am hearing that it can run 6.x apps so long as they are the same resolution. Trying to get more info.
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Until MS officially announce something, everything we hear about WM7 is going to be rumour; and one rumour can't refute another because they're both just that, rumours.
We'll have to see if they drop any more info in Feb.

DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
I'm not 100% sure about that. The problem is that Windows Mobile 7 will run on either Windows CE 6 or 7, as opposed to the Windows CE 5 comprising Windows Mobile 5.x and 6.x. Someone will likely have to create nearly every low level component from scratch, so the OS will support the older unsupported hardware. It might be doable, but it won't be as simple as running 6.5 on a WM 6 device.
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Well it was also possible to run 6.5 on PPC 2003 devices. Probably not really stable but it was possible. but anyway I don't really care. 6.5.x will stay on my Topaz and I'll pick up a new phone for WM 7 of course

http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/01/18/everything-you-need-to-know-about-windows-mobile-7/

Win_XP said:
I think that Windows Mobile 7 will be ported and modded to run on older HTC devices too
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DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
I'm not 100% sure about that. The problem is that Windows Mobile 7 will run on either Windows CE 6 or 7, as opposed to the Windows CE 5 comprising Windows Mobile 5.x and 6.x. Someone will likely have to create nearly every low level component from scratch, so the OS will support the older unsupported hardware. It might be doable, but it won't be as simple as running 6.5 on a WM 6 device. There's a thread here which goes into more detail concerning Windows Mobile 7 on a current generation device (Touch Pro2), and it doesn't look good.
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RAMMANN said:
Well it was also possible to run 6.5 on PPC 2003 devices. Probably not really stable but it was possible. but anyway I don't really care. 6.5.x will stay on my Topaz and I'll pick up a new phone for WM 7 of course
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Yes, but every version of Windows Mobile from 5.0 onwards has been based on the same Windows CE kernel; that's one reason why other OSes (like Android) run so much faster than WinMo on the same hardware, and permit 720p video recording, etc. - a lot of the underlying code in WinMo hasn't been upgraded in six years.
To put it in desktop PC terms, going from Windows Mobile 5.0 all the way up to WinMo 6.5 is the equivalent of going from Windows 95 to Windows ME - it's still basically the same OS, just with a few tweaks to the UI. By contrast, going to WM7 will be like going from Windows ME to Windows Vista - a completely different operating system kernel, with a completely different driver model.
The drivers will be the biggest problem. Unless there is some device out there that officially runs WM7 and which uses exactly the same component as one on your target platform, there simply won't be anywhere you can get a driver file from; and even if such a thing exists, piecing together complete support for every component of a device by picking and choosing driver files from many different platforms would be an enormous effort.
There is a reasonable chance that we will see WM7 running on the HD2, even if there isn't an official release; that's because HTC is apparently using the HD2 as a WM7 development platform, so if someone leaks the ROM they use for testing, the cooks here could probably cobble together something reasonable using it as a basis. But for any other device, realistically there is no chance at all.

Look Here
Its CE 7.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618631

odd would be the first time ever ms made a wm release based on a ce core not available already and tested for stability

What OS do you prefer: Android 2 or Win Phone 7?

What OS do you prefer: Android 2 or Win Phone 7

how will we know? no-one got ttheir hands on either yet?
its a completely subjective and pointless questin (IMHO)

google is the wolf in sheeps clothing. they call MS the bad guy while they own the world's info.
I'll take a windows HTC phone since this community will support it way better

Considering no one has WM7 how do you expect to get a decent tally from the poll at this point?
With that being said - IF the older windows mobile software will run on WM7, then I will stick with windows mobile simply because there are more apps avail.

WP7S looks much sexier than Android.

imagine if possible, what you chose?

The Android 2.x has multitasking (rather than The Android 1.x which has no multitasking)
In contrast, the Windows Phone 7 has no multitasking (while the older Windows Mobile/Phone has multitasking, including the oldest Pocket PC)..
And I REALLY NEED MULTITASKING, so I choose the Android

web 2.0 crap
i hate social networks...
stay on windows phone classic
hmm update:
android gets me
still hatin social networks....

currently the chances to be able to move any current htc device to wm7 are much much smaller then moving them to android 2
wm7 is not a follow up for wm6.X it's a different branch's which don't run wm6.x programs and require hardware other wm6.X devices don't have
so chances are if you really really like wm7 you need to get a new device
and hope that many developers head in that direction rather then android, iphone or nokia n900
because old pocketpc apps don't work

Rudegar said:
currently the chances to be able to move any current htc device to wm7 are much much smaller then moving them to android 2
wm7 is not a follow up for wm6.X it's a different branch's which don't run wm6.x programs and require hardware other wm6.X devices don't have
so chances are if you really really like wm7 you need to get a new device
and hope that many developers head in that direction rather then android, iphone or nokia n900
because old pocketpc apps don't work
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Windows Embedded CE 6.0 features a completely redesigned kernel, which supports over 32,768 processes, up from 32 process support of the previous versions. Each process receives 2GB of virtual address space, up from 32MB.
well, seems like the only choice we've left is android.
& wm 6.xx is terrible.

Judging from what i saw at MWC 2010 i'll personally stick
to winmo "classic", that's what they are calling WM6.X now.
WM 7 looked very lame and boring to me. Look like it's
bound to be a major setback for MS and a significant
growth in the Android arena. A change to radical.

patrick_spd4u said:
The Android 2.x has multitasking (rather than The Android 1.x which has no multitasking)
In contrast, the Windows Phone 7 has no multitasking (while the older Windows Mobile/Phone has multitasking, including the oldest Pocket PC)..
And I REALLY NEED MULTITASKING, so I choose the Android
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1.6 DOES multitasking.
Anyway, Android is better than WM in many aspects..
From Touch Pro to HTC Hero. Too bad it has the same qualcomm crappy procesor, but it's faster than WM and way more handy (notification bar simply rocks).
And about WM7.. I don't like it. A total downgrade.. IMO. RIP WM
So yes, i vote for Android 2

RIP Windows Mobile... I originally got you because you were so hackable and customizable, but this new version just sounds like an iPhone clone two years too late....
Android is definitely going to be where it's at for the phone hacker community (it seems...)

i will not be surprised if someone in XDA-DEV managed to cook a rom for touch pro that will support windows mobile 7..even now,with their help,we are able to boot our touch pro with android OS..just wait and see..

switch symbian os to windows os

hey guys
i am new to the fourm and i want to ask about a strange thing
i have htc hd2 runing windows mobile
then i bought a samsung hd phone runing symbian
and i want to erase the symbian and install any windows mobile version
can any one help me about that
i can pay for this
thank you all for you time

Not possible

archi_mahmoud said:
hey guys
i am new to the fourm and i want to ask about a strange thing
i have htc hd2 runing windows mobile
then i bought a samsung hd phone runing symbian
and i want to erase the symbian and install any windows mobile version
can any one help me about that
i can pay for this
thank you all for you time
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officially impossible.
non-officially: talk to the ROM chefs to come up with a decent cooked ROM

OmniaHD? Way to downgrade.
Symbian S60 is god-awful, especially S60V5.. what were they thinking? It's so locked down. Give me my WinMo and cooked rom flexibility any day of the week!

Actually, there was an insider ROM for WM7 which was used by Microsoft for showoff reasons.
But it is prolly gonna be like Cobalt for the Tungsten T3 - it will never leak out...

IIRC, the phone used by microsoft was different to the Omnia I8910HD. It did however look very similar, but the case was different at least. (That doesn't mean it wasn't one, but I doubt it, and expect it to simply be a ad hoc demo device, apposed to a ROM that will never be released).
On a side note, I do agree, S60 is somewhat crap, I can't stand the full screen QWERTY keyboard, and is very locked down. It can be hacked to run some apps from the OVI store etc though, like OVI maps (about the only good thing). But then again, it does shoot good quality video.

why you choose android not wm?

such as title

Since Microsoft doesn't bring out anything new or exciting to the Windows Mobile 6.5 and its Windows Phone 7 being in the 'beta-like' stage with no apps to do everything like in Android yet, its Android meanwhile.

Hamsn said:
Since Microsoft doesn't bring out anything new or exciting to the Windows Mobile 6.5 and its Windows Phone 7 being in the 'beta-like' stage with no apps to do everything like in Android yet, its Android meanwhile.
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simply OPEN SOURCE CODE based on LINUX.....i don´t need anymore....

WM is dying, but it still has some awesome games, Quake, Pocket UFO, Civilisation, Crayon physics so ill continue to use it.
Android is currently the closest thing to what WM was (With bonus spying and adds from Google) and it is fun to play around with and visually stimulating. Hopefully one day some of the awesome games can be remade/ported for android.

ppclike said:
such as title
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That's an easy one for me, I got an HTC HD2 with WinMo 6.5 and had many problems almost all related to the OS. I flashed it to Windows Phone 7 (Thanks, XDAdevelopers!) and liked it even less.
I flashed an Android 2.2xx NAND and flashed an Android boot screen and the phone is now very close to perfect for my use!
You can go to the T-Mobile forums and read non-stop complaints about just how bad the HD2 really is but it's all the OS, once changed to Android, it's a great phone. Of course Android can't fix the phone's two major problems which are no 4G and no WiFi calling but that's hardware limitations.

Simply I hate Windows World, open-source rules!!!!!!!!!

Not ready yet...
Hamsn said:
Since Microsoft doesn't bring out anything new or exciting to the Windows Mobile 6.5 and its Windows Phone 7 being in the 'beta-like' stage with no apps to do everything like in Android yet, its Android meanwhile.
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This exactly. To add to that, Win 7 also lacks the customization available in Android. Half the dev team in my IT department have Win Phone 7's because they're MS junkies (and I say that with love lol) but the other half have Android phones because it gives them more control over their mobile platform.
Personally, if Win Phone 8 is enough of an improvement, and Nokia comes out with a good phone running it, on Verizon, I'll be very tempted to switch... The Office integration would be a huge benefit to me for work purposes.