Got Sandisk ultra 16GB Class 2 instead of class 4!! - Galaxy S I9000 Accessories

greeting,
In my previous threads i stated that, i bought Kigstone 16GB Class 10 but fedex brought me my shipment without the sdCard!!!, until my claim is finish,
I ordered from Amazon.com (Ships from and sold by Komputerbay.)
Sandisk 16GB Ultra microSDHC CLASS 4 / MobileMate micro Reader (SDSDQY-016G, Retail Package) with cost me : $84.00 plus international shipping!.
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with model no: Item model number: SDSDQY-016G-S11M
and after 4 days what got from them is this :
Sandisk Ultra 16GB Class 2
printed on (2) which is mean CLASS 2,
also the back of the package contain CLASS 2 with the serial : SDSDQY-016G-E11M
every thing on the package is Class 2 except the invoice!.
now i got confused! mistake! they gave me class 2 sd instated of class 4!
i but it in my Galaxy s i9000 and made a test by SD card speed test
and result is
Read speed: 11MB.
Write speed : 8MB
and also test the copy speed
the read speed is good, but what about the write speed!!!!
comparing to this post :
Fredag said:
Yeah, I am not making it up. Here are the Swedish benchmarks:
This one is for 16 GB Kingston class 10:
This one is for 16GB Sandisc ultra class 4:
I am almost a bit offended that you actually lectured me with Wikipedia, lol!
But I was confused to, it turns out that it's a known mystery that Sandisc don't claim the higher classes. I almost got the inferior Kingston for a significantly larger price. As seen above, the Ultra is also better when only small bits of data is used, so there you go... I hope this helps!
EDIT:
Lol, I can't post pictures yet, you have to do the cut and paste magic... Can a mod please release me, as I'm trying to contribute to the site?
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i contacted the Komputerbay before Amazon and that was their response :
Hello,
Thank you for your email. Sandisk had a typo a few months back where they
printed Class 2 on cards that are actually Class 4. The card you received is
actually a Class 4.
Thank you,
Customer Service
AH
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here's a site mention that this model " SDSDQY-016G-E11M" is a CLASS 2 card!!
SanDisk Mobile Ultra • Flash memory card • 16 GB • Class 2 • microSDHC with MobileMate Micro Reader
Sandisk 16GB Micro SDHC Ultra Card + USB Reader - SDSDQY-016G-E11M
Did i get the right SD card or something fishy!
class 2 cost less than class4.
I know class 2 is fast but according to the member results I didn't get class 4 card!
I need an advice before my next step.
thank you.

I think they're lying. I have the exact same 16GB mobile Ultra Class 4 card & also the 16GB Class 2 one which came with my Dell Streak, in your picture. They're definately not the same. Return it for refund.

zen123 said:
I think they're lying. I have the exact same 16GB mobile Ultra Class 4 card & also the 16GB Class 2 one which came with my Dell Streak, in your picture. They're definately not the same. Return it for refund.
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Thank you zen123.
Can you give me you ur result of sd speed test.

Weird, I bought a class 6 16gb from Amazon for $43. You should return it because 1. overpriced, 2. wrong item.

Majed.y
i just had the same experience with KomputerBuy -
just posted the below in another thread:
okay - got my sandisk ultra 16GB micro SDHC in, and as opposed to the pictured class 4 symbol on the advertised unit, what came in is marked class 2
then i noticed the model number for the ultra 16GB adverstised on most seller's websites, including the one i ordered from, is SDSDQY-016G-A11M
and this one's model number is SDSDQY-016G-E11M, the difference being the last four characters
Note: sandisk, on their web, does not state class 2 or 4 for the ultra series micro sdhc
now it gets strange - called sandisk to see what they had to say about this, got to a level 2 tech, and all he would say was the last four digits referred to "production lot number" - which seems odd (i'm in mfgring, and i've never heard of a "rotating" model number - it would create a lot of confusion - how do vendors know what the "flavor" or current model number is, if they order the one used on previous order, and the current model number that comes in is different, there's going to be headaches with vendors calling in, yada yada
doesn't seem viable - suspect sandisk is using that as a cover story, similiar to apple's SOP
so i asked the level 2 tech, is this the same card, with just a different class number stenciled and all he would respond, oddly, was that the class number was simply the lowest read/write speed the card was guaranteed to demonstrate - i told him, i didn't ask for a definition of the class stencil meaning, but that i had asked WERE THEY THE SAME CARD? He just repeated the same answer
he did ask me to identify the seller (KomputerBuy on Amazon) and he confirmed he's a legit dealer
in testing mine, transfering a 662 MB file to the disk, it took 120 seconds exact = 5.51 MBs per second
in seeing the other tests, i'm returning the card
suspect something is going on in the memory market (engadget had an article that memory prices were getting ready to climb) but i have to be suspicious when someone shows me one product and delivers a different one - mine's going back
PS - and just checked Newegg's web, they're showing the next shipment of the correct class 4 card w/reader is due in 10/22/2010
there's got to be a memory shortage in the pipeline
on a sidenote, they have a class 2 16gb sandisk micro sdhc for $46, + $9 for the micro reader, means about $30 less than what i paid komputerbuy (aaaarggh)

Welcome larryccf
I tried to contact KomputerBuy and sandisk but found my self wasting time, so asked for a return and returned mine and got full refund via amazon.
then picked one from Amazon it self, which is real (4).
bad expernice with KomputerBuy.
I took a lot of time searching for this card.

there's something going on in the memory market
as i explained, a) sandisk rep gave me a confusing / deflective answer while trying to tell me not to worry about the class 2 card i received
then when i bought a 8 GB class 4 from MacMall (another sandisk recommended dealer), what came in was the correct product number they had shown on their website, but where on their web they indicated by picture that it was class 4, it arrived and was a class 2
price though, was too cheap and i should have been suspicious ($27)
I've kept it, and will use it till memory shortages / price gouging dies down, and buy one in a local store so i can confirm it's class in person BEFORE i pay

larryccf said:
buy one in a local store so i can confirm it's class in person BEFORE i pay
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This is something I would advice most people when trying to buy Sandisk Ultra's.
Went to a local shop today and had them order a 16gb class 4(as the title of this thread says) + usb adapter for 77€ and explicitly let them pay attention to the class. They were even going to call to make sure they shipped a class 4.
Went back yesterday and as it turned out Sandisk still shipped a class 2 card...something very fishy is going on here...(almost feels like they can't get rid of their class 2's ^^)
Anyway; since I ordered at a shop (no deposit mind you), at least I don't have to worry about shipping the bloody card back and forth. And I don't have to deal with dodgy answers from Sandisk's customer-service.
Still waiting for the card though.
Kind regards! (and good luck to anyone trying to get a class 4 card)

i bought one here http://www.lowpricememory.co.uk/sandisk-16gb-ultra-micro-sd-card-c-29-p-292 and real genuine sandisk16gb classe 4 .

No typo
MAJED.y said:
greeting,
In my previous threads i stated that, i bought Kigstone 16GB Class 10 but fedex brought me my shipment without the sdCard!!!, until my claim is finish,
I ordered from Amazon.com (Ships from and sold by Komputerbay.)
Sandisk 16GB Ultra microSDHC CLASS 4 / MobileMate micro Reader (SDSDQY-016G, Retail Package) with cost me : $84.00 plus international shipping!.
with model no: Item model number: SDSDQY-016G-S11M
and after 4 days what got from them is this :
Sandisk Ultra 16GB Class 2
printed on (2) which is mean CLASS 2,
also the back of the package contain CLASS 2 with the serial : SDSDQY-016G-E11M
every thing on the package is Class 2 except the invoice!.
now i got confused! mistake! they gave me class 2 sd instated of class 4!
i but it in my Galaxy s i9000 and made a test by SD card speed test
and result is
Read speed: 11MB.
Write speed : 8MB
and also test the copy speed
the read speed is good, but what about the write speed!!!!
comparing to this post :
i contacted the Komputerbay before Amazon and that was their response :
here's a site mention that this model " SDSDQY-016G-E11M" is a CLASS 2 card!!
SanDisk Mobile Ultra • Flash memory card • 16 GB • Class 2 • microSDHC with MobileMate Micro Reader
Sandisk 16GB Micro SDHC Ultra Card + USB Reader - SDSDQY-016G-E11M
Did i get the right SD card or something fishy!
class 2 cost less than class4.
I know class 2 is fast but according to the member results I didn't get class 4 card!
I need an advice before my next step.
thank you.
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1 your card is normal class 2
2 that card can perform beter then 2mb sec write speed
3 class 6 guarantees minimal 6mb per sec.
4 class 2 does not perform the same when it's full or let say more then 50%
5 if you like to use half your capacity you buy class 2
6 if you like speed and size you must buy higher class card.
7 kingston is very high quality and fair priced
8 sorry for my bad english

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memory card help

are the new microsdch cards compatible with the touch pro
I've never heard of those, but micro sdhc cards work fine , I'm using an 8mb one
i think sdhc cards are min 4GB dont think anybody feel that 8MB cards are that high capacity
i dunno....it's pretty high capacity for something smaller than my little fingernail
I'm about to purchase a microsd for my HTC Touch pro and i'm between :
Kingston 8gb SDHC class 4
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=170972
and
SanDisk 8gb SDHC class 2
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=158255
and
Expansys 8gb SDHC class 2
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=164646
Now the question is will the HTC support any of the 3 and why the heck is the class 4 kingston lower cost than the other two seeing as its supposed to be faster ? :/
Dunno. Kingston are usually cheaper than sandisk anyway, and i wouldn't touch Expansys' own brand stuff with a bargepole.
Oh and yeah, it should work fine.
Firann said:
Now the question is will the HTC support any of the 3 and why the heck is the class 4 kingston lower cost than the other two seeing as its supposed to be faster ? :/
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Yep, they'll all work. Go for the Kingston. Class 4 is indeed faster. Probably cheaper because it's newer stock (you can tell from the Expansys stock code).
Expansys never seem to reduce prices on accessories like these. They go in at a certain price, and stay at the same price 'til they're all gone. By the way, hold out for a couple of weeks (hopefully?) and you should be able to pick up a 16Gb MicroSD for about £50...
Oh, and if you hit Google, you can usually find a £10 Expansys voucher knocking around for purchases over £20...
EDIT: Just looked at the links, The SanDisk one is Class 4 as well, so I'd probably go for that one, as they're the same price, and I've had loads of flawless SanDisk cards over the years...
sub69 said:
Yep, they'll all work. Go for the Kingston. Class 4 is indeed faster. Probably cheaper because it's newer stock (you can tell from the Expansys stock code).
Expansys never seem to reduce prices on accessories like these. They go in at a certain price, and stay at the same price 'til they're all gone. By the way, hold out for a couple of weeks (hopefully?) and you should be able to pick up a 16Gb MicroSD for about £50...
Oh, and if you hit Google, you can usually find a £10 Expansys voucher knocking around for purchases over £20...
EDIT: Just looked at the links, The SanDisk one is Class 4 as well, so I'd probably go for that one, as they're the same price, and I've had loads of flawless SanDisk cards over the years...
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Yeap noticed that aswell i'm changing the order to the Sandisk one
Yep sandisk ones are spot on, see if you can get one that includes the free red and black USB reader aswell, great little accessory.
Remember to format it with FAT32
Firann said:
I'm about to purchase a microsd for my HTC Touch pro and i'm between :
Kingston 8gb SDHC class 4
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=170972
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Yeah, Expansys are kinda expensive. Try mobymemory, I've always had an excellent experience with them.
http://www.mobymemory.com/micro-SD.asp
8GB Class 4 SanDisk WITH card reader, loads cheaper. Plus when they say it's in stock, you can be pretty certain that it actually is.
Hi, regarding the different speed classes of the micro sdhc cards:
Does it always make sense to use the fastest card and does this really affect the performance according the cards speed class?
I mean does anybody know about the maximum speed of the card interface of the touch pro? I'm thinking to buy the SanDisk Ultra (class 6)
Within the device itself, the class of the card won't matter too much. A class 4 is probably comparable to a class 6, and certainly wont make a difference when it comes to playing mp3s or viewing pictures. But a class 6 card will certainly make file transfers faster on to/off of the card using a PC (best results if you use a separate usb/card adapter and not "disk mode" on your Touch Pro).
For reference, I'm using A-DATA Class 6 8gb MicroSDHC, works perfectly and no errors. Available for $31 at Newegg (if you're in US).
sandisk class 4 sdhc microsd 8 GB is the fastest at the moment and you can get it for 33 euro.. works fantastic..

heads up on class 2 micro sdhc cards sold as class 4

a followup to an earlier post that might save others some frustraton and headaches
i had ordered a 16GB Sandisk Ultra class 4 card from KomputerBuy on amazon (Sandisk lists amazon as an authorized dealer or "a where to buy" dealer).
Their product descript showed a pix of a class 4 card - what arrived was class 2, but a different product number as the one showing class 4.
Called sandisk to see what they'd say, and the CSR did a fancy deflective word dance telling me that what the class numbers meant yada yada, but it was surreal, he would never answer directly the question "okay, are you telling me that the NEW class 2 cards are the same read/write speeds as a class 4?". and during the conversation he did ask who the vendor was, and i identified KomputerBuy and he confirmed they were an authorized vendor.
but i left that conversation looking for an aspirin bottle
contacted komputerbuy, and as someone else described, komputerbuy emailed me back responding that "sandisk had a problem earlier with stenciling the wrong class number on their cards".
I took issue with that indicating: 1) customers should be advised of this BEFORE they've processed the order, 2) that description does not reconcile with the fact that the product ordered and the product received had different model numbers, so there was an unauthorized subsitution and 3) when i tested the write speeds, it was approximately 1/3rd slower than class 4s (ie write spd was 5.1MB a second)
now i'm dealing with their attempt to charge me "shipping and handling charges".
i went out and found an 8GB class 4 card at MacMall (also a Sandisk recommended dealer) - i actually called them, asked them to confirm it was a class 4 card, salesman went and picked it up, had it in his hand and said "yes, it's a class 4"
price was suspiciously low ($27) considering the memory card shortage that apparently exists in the industry
well, it came in today - its a class 2 as well
this time, the model number on the card is the same as the one on their website, so there was no product substitution, but having a second seller describe it as class 4 ("in his hand") coupled with Sandisk's deflective obsfuscating answer, tells me there's a shortage of class 4 sandisk mem cards, and sandisk is coordinating, suggesting, motivating sellers to distort product descriptions to move class 2 cards out.
personally, i still want a sandisk card, but will now buy it in a store, with the frigging card in hand
in case anyone thinks i'm smoking home rolled cigarettes, i've got some shots posted at http://s816.photobucket.com/albums/zz81/vze86qtl/8GB Sandisk class 2/, including a shot of the unopened packaging, a closeup of the card, a shot of the pkging model number and a copy of the vendor's web description
as an aside, newegg.com, who i trust (bought quite a bit from them), on their web indicate 10/22/2010 for expected delivery of 16GB Ultra cards (there's no guarantee they'll be class 4, but hopefully)
If you look here Got Sandisk ultra 16GB Class 2 instead of class 4!!.
The same thing happened to me, i returned the product and got the full refund, and picked another one with the "SDSDQY-016G-A11M" from amazon itself to be sure, good it's really (4) with the same serial but tagged at the back of package "Class 2" here was i think the truth about what KomputerBuy told me "Sandisk misprinted the class number"!. okay missing one tag not all the product with class 2 tags from the card it self to the serial and the package!!
the fact was the card with "E11M" is Class 2 not 4.
so you have received the new one, and it is stenciled as a class 4 on the card itself?
have you tested it on write speeds? -
I returned it, and buy another one, from Amazon direct with the code "A11M" (4).
And yes I tested the write speed and it was 14~ 15MB and 19~20MB in read using crystal disk mark.
MAJED.y said:
I returned it, and buy another one, from Amazon direct with the code "A11M" (4).
And yes I tested the write speed and it was 14~ 15MB and 19~20MB in read using crystal disk mark.
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Interesting.......... from wiki.......
The following are the ratings of some currently available cards:
Class 2: 2 MB/s
Class 4: 4 MB/s
Class 6: 6 MB/s
Class 10: 10 MB/s
I have a class 4 (but it is just a generic/no brand one) and it matches the 4MB/s.
Do really get those speeds? If so I may stump up the cash for 'premium' brand.
If it is of any use I have attached a program that I use to rest with. Best done on a new card with no DATA or an old one with data backed up and card wiped. It will verify size and speed. As with anything please run this through your virus checkers first although mine have shown it to be clean and I have used it successfully myself. No install just save to desktop and double click.K.
I think wiki is wrong, as I know that the fastest sd card (class 10), is the same speed as the slowest compact flash cards used in cameras which is 30mbs
larryccf said:
when i tested the write speeds, it was approximately 1/3rd slower than class 4s (ie write spd was 5.1MB a second)
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Quoting Sandisk:
The SD Speed Class Ratings specify a minimum sustained write speed for SDHC/miniSDHC/microSDHC cards (Class 2: 2 MB/s; Class 4: 4 MB/s; Class 6: 6 MB/s*).
*1 megabyte (MB) = 1 million bytes; 1 gigabyte (GB) = 1 billion bytes.
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source : http://www.sandisk.com/Assets/File/pdf/retail/SDHC1.pdf
Technically speaking you are getting Class 4 speeds, but having said that, my Sandisk Class 2 , 16GB card can reach write speeds of up to 10MB/s when copying files over USB. I just tested by copying a 600MB movie using a micro SD card adaptor, it took 58 seconds meaning an average speed of 10.34MB/s. Read speed is around 17MB/s. I bought this card last year. Don't have the packaging anymore, so cant confirm the product code.
EDIT: I also have a spare Class 2, 8GB Card which i got bundled with my Previous Nokia 5800, Not sure who the original manufacturer is, because it only says Nokia 8GB Class 2. Did the same test and got 5.2MB/s write and 12MB/s read speeds. I'm not sure about the exact speed ratings, Sandisk and many others web sites say Class number corresponds to the minimum sustained write speed, maybe if I copy a combination of large and small files filling up the entire disk , I might get lower write speeds. but right now I get more than dowuble of what the minimum guaranteed write speed. Perhaps the key point here is not the average or maximum speed, rather the Minimum sustained write speed, which means at no time it should drop below the specified speed (which might cause problems for apps like video recording) but I can't find any official documentation specifying the average or maximum write / read speeds...

looking for class 6 and above owners

hi.
i'm trying to find out how fast can the i9000 write to the sd card.
so if you own a class 6 or class 10 card i want to know how fast does it write while being connected directly to the computer (no use of an adapter).
please write the card model and the writing speed
thank you
None have this cards? No way..
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there were test results posted before
just do some searching, this was discussed many many times
Are there any class 6 micro sd cards?
I haven't come across any of them yet.
Actualy i did search...but couldent find anything about it...not only on xda....
Can u please post a link?
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sgsI9003 said:
Are there any class 6 micro sd cards?
I haven't come across any of them yet.
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Class 6
http://shop.ebay.com.au/i.html?_nkw=microsd+32gb+class+6&_sacat=0&_odkw=microsd+32gb+class+10&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313
why go class 6 when there is:
Class 10
http://shop.ebay.com.au/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3692.m570.l1313&_nkw=microsd+32gb+class+10&_sacat=See-All-Categories
But honestly, I'd rather have a kingston/sandisk class 4 than a generic class 10 brand. That's a lot of data to lose if something goes wrong. Besides, based on reviews, Sandisk underrates their cards. my 16gb class 4 sandisk is actually benchmarked as a class 6.
here: Class 4
http://shop.ebay.com.au/i.html?_nkw=microsd+32gb+class+4&_sacat=0&_dmpt=AU_Electronics_Memory_Cards&_odkw=microsd+32gb+class+6&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313
If the links dont work, just search them up on EBAY. Sorry my search results are australian based. Just change it.
if you use Apps2SD you definitely want a minimum a Class 6 card
ideally get a Class 10, you can easily feel (time) the difference between a class 4 vs class 6 in real life usage
I have a Class 6 16gb card,transfer rate on windows 7 between 5mb and 7mb sometimes don't have enough time to convert a movie and just copy the 2.5gb or 4gb the movie str8 to sd card and the phone plays it flawless if you're a camera addict or just want a good SD Card buy a Class 6 or above some users are ok with class 1 to
I have 16GB class 10. Actual speed when writing on it from my laptop hard-drive through USB cable is 6-8 MB/sec.
fransarj said:
Class 6
http://shop.ebay.com.au/i.html?_nkw=microsd+32gb+class+6&_sacat=0&_odkw=microsd+32gb+class+10&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313
why go class 6 when there is:
Class 10
http://shop.ebay.com.au/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3692.m570.l1313&_nkw=microsd+32gb+class+10&_sacat=See-All-Categories
But honestly, I'd rather have a kingston/sandisk class 4 than a generic class 10 brand. That's a lot of data to lose if something goes wrong. Besides, based on reviews, Sandisk underrates their cards. my 16gb class 4 sandisk is actually benchmarked as a class 6.
here: Class 4
http://shop.ebay.com.au/i.html?_nkw=microsd+32gb+class+4&_sacat=0&_dmpt=AU_Electronics_Memory_Cards&_odkw=microsd+32gb+class+6&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313
If the links dont work, just search them up on EBAY. Sorry my search results are australian based. Just change it.
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what do you think of Kingmax?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Kingmax-16GB-16...emory_Cards&hash=item2eb3693d51#ht_2062wt_825
alijanismayilov said:
I have 16GB class 10. Actual speed when writing on it from my laptop hard-drive through USB cable is 6-8 MB/sec.
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what brand is it?
I have a Transcend 4gb class 6 card, it averaged ~7.4mb/s from my laptop by the micro usb cable.
tizaktizak said:
what do you think of Kingmax?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Kingmax-16GB-16...emory_Cards&hash=item2eb3693d51#ht_2062wt_825
what brand is it?
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I do not know what brand but it says - Micro SD HC class10 . Bought it from EBAY more than 3-months ago, still working and really fast. I have all my music 13gb on it because I am listening this music in my car through the Bluetooth car-stereo. I had slower card class 6 and it was lagging when listening music, but not anymore. Hope this info was helpful.
alijanismayilov said:
I do not know what brand but it says - Micro SD HC class10 . Bought it from EBAY more than 3-months ago, still working and really fast. I have all my music 13gb on it because I am listening this music in my car through the Bluetooth car-stereo. I had slower card class 6 and it was lagging when listening music, but not anymore. Hope this info was helpful.
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Your card should write faster..it's class 10 witch means a minimum of 10MB per second....this is y i want to know the brand of it...so i can avoid this cards.
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do not buy microSD cards from ebay 90% of the time are fakes speed, or fake size or fake both
AllGamer said:
do not buy microSD cards from ebay 90% of the time are fakes speed, or fake size or fake both
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My Lexar Class 10 32GB from Amazon UK certainly writes as it should. I am getting the occasional glitch after writing to it from my Mac - not sure if it is the card or the SD card management. Not a major issue at the moment - wait and see if it gets worse.
Amazon is safer than eBay that's for sure, as long as you buy only the ones that are sold by "Amazon" itself, not the "others" cheaper retailers
back then i purchased some collector DVDs, and they sent me fake ones, but i paid for original ones, of course i though the cheaper available ones were also legit, but boy was i wrong
since then i learned to not pick any of the sellers on Amazon, and buy from Amazon retail only
i just tested my sandisk 16gb class 4 with crystaldisc mark..
i get 5.9MB from the adapter but only 3.2MB from the phone
y is it like this?
AllGamer said:
Amazon is safer than eBay that's for sure, as long as you buy only the ones that are sold by "Amazon" itself, not the "others" cheaper retailers
back then i purchased some collector DVDs, and they sent me fake ones, but i paid for original ones, of course i though the cheaper available ones were also legit, but boy was i wrong
since then i learned to not pick any of the sellers on Amazon, and buy from Amazon retail only
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On Ebay depends on the vender you buy, I purchase RAM from Australia to Portugal, and it works fine.
But of course Amazon is faster and more reliable.

[Q] Samsung Micro SDHC Plus Class 10 - Anyone using / recommend ?

Hi..
I'm a noob and yes I have searched the threads for info but it seems that so many of you Samsung Galaxy owners are using every other card apart from Samsung Cards in your phones... I wondered why ?
Speed Rating For the Samsung Plus Micro SDHC cards MB-MP8GA (Sorry can't post a link as a noob)
• Speed (read) : 24MB/s
• Speed (write) : 21MB/s
• Speed Class : Class 10
The card is for my neighbour who asked me for a recommendation and I said I would look for the best card Price Vs Features. Seeing as the higher end cards give good warranties I also considered "Futureproof" ie taking the card to the next generation of phones as the Samsung cards now include Class 10 SDHC I thought this would be the one to purchase.
I've always used Sandisk SD/HC in my cameras and have relied upon the Sandisk warranty and they stepped up and replaced my faulty card with no problem, so I was about to go with Sandisk until I noticed a good price on Samsung Micro cards.. £15 ($24) for 8GB and £25 ($40) for 16GB.
What I'm asking is can anyone recommend Samsung cards, and are the write speeds as good as they state...?
Many thanks in anticipation. Nut
Hi Nut Magnet,
I use a 16gb Lexar class 6 in my Galaxy S and the Asus Transformer, with no problem at so far. Even if Lexar marked them as a class 6 product, You may find reviews stating they have class 10 performance.
Regards
Davide
Hi Davide,
Many thanks for the reply. ..
I went ahead and purchased the Samsung 8gb card this morning.
Noticed the price had dropped nearly £2.00 to £12.75
The stores seem to have dropped the class 6 Lexar and now stock the newer class 10 Lexar® High-Performance Mobile Solution cards.... 16GB & 32 GB with a 10-year limited warranty for microSDHC™
They don't state any read / write speeds that I can see on the lexar site.
Will see how the Samsung card works and maybe update the thread..
Thanks again
Nut
someone test this samsung class 10 card please
LuXuEuX said:
someone test this samsung class 10 card please
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Hi LuXuEuX
The card I purchased arrived Monday retail packaged so I passed it straight to my neighbour. Unfortunately I can't test it as it's no longer in my possession. It was also a gift for the neighbours granddaughter so it has been passed on again.
I can tell you it works OK.. not much help I know with read / write speeds.
I can also tell you the price has gone up from £12.75 to £17.95 at the eBay store I purchased it from.. item No: 130567093565
Nut
hy guys,
i have the Samsung MB-MPAGA/EU (16GB) installed and i can confirm that it works fine. I have no benchmarks or so, but the card's i/o speed is great.
realy fast if copying internal data, fast enough if copying from pc to card via usb.
I payed sth. rd. 50€ at amazon.de now they are sold for 33€. it's a god working, fast and stable card.
regards chris
The 32gb microSD MB-MSBGAEU card from Samsung works fine for me.
I paid around 35€ at Amazon.
I tested the speed with Antutu and scored about 9mb/s writing and 17 mb/s reading

Samsung 32GB Class 10 for $33

Samsung Class 10 32GB microSD card for $33 at Fry's starting later today. That's a great deal. Cheaper than the same-spec Patriot card I bought on sale recently.
http://slickdeals.net/f/4277364-SAM...10-33-in-store-or-35-Shipped-starts-4-27-frys
Good deal
I saw a similar deal on ebay, but i thought it was sketchy and went with a class 4 32gb SD for $21 from a trusted seller instead. Is the class 10 card speed incredible?
Wickidmasshole said:
I saw a similar deal on ebay, but i thought it was sketchy and went with a class 4 32gb SD for $21 from a trusted seller instead. Is the class 10 card speed incredible?
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Class 2 = 2 MB/s
Class 4 = 4 MB/s
Class 6 = 6 MB/s
Class 10 = 10 MB/s
So just think of transfer speeds, the bigger the files the longer it'll take. For example say I had a 4MB picture or file and I transfer it to the Class 4 SD card, it will take 1 second. If I had a 100MB file on a Class 10 it will take 10 seconds to transfer while on a Class 4 it will take 25 seconds. If waiting time doesnt bother you then Class speeds wont matter as much but if you do transfer a lot of files or media all the time then they're really important (HD videos etc...). It also helps if you like to update your phone with ROMs and data files frequently. Some of the files range up 200-300+MB in sizes so having a Class 10 will help in transfer speeds. So thats the only difference between the classes, they're guaranteed write speeds under ideal conditions.
CZ Eddie said:
Samsung Class 10 32GB microSD card for $33 at Fry's starting later today. That's a great deal. Cheaper than the same-spec Patriot card I bought on sale recently.
http://slickdeals.net/f/4277364-SAM...10-33-in-store-or-35-Shipped-starts-4-27-frys
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That is a great deal! I payed $38 for the same thing
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Class 2 = 2 MB/s
Class 4 = 4 MB/s
Class 6 = 6 MB/s
Class 10 = 10 MB/s
So just think of transfer speeds, the bigger the files the longer it'll take. For example say I had a 4MB picture or file and I transfer it to the Class 4 SD card, it will take 1 second. If I had a 100MB file on a Class 10 it will take 10 seconds to transfer while on a Class 4 it will take 25 seconds. If waiting time doesnt bother you then Class speeds wont matter as much but if you do transfer a lot of files or media all the time then they're really important (HD videos etc...). It also helps if you like to update your phone with ROMs and data files frequently. Some of the files range up 200-300+MB in sizes so having a Class 10 will help in transfer speeds. So thats the only difference between the classes, they're guaranteed write speeds under ideal conditions.
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I bet you also think the 6GB/s transfer speeds SATA6G claims means you actually get 6GB/s rates as well!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1150369
Let's all stop spreading wrong information, please? I was minutes away from getting a Class 10 MicroSD card last week when I read that post.... saved some money since I bought three Class 4's for $60 instead of two Class 10's for the same price!
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I bet you also think the 6GB/s transfer speeds SATA6G claims means you actually get 6GB/s rates as well!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1150369
Let's all stop spreading wrong information, please? I was minutes away from getting a Class 10 MicroSD card last week when I read that post.... saved some money since I bought three Class 4's for $60 instead of two Class 10's for the same price!
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Congrats, you got a slower card.
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Congrats, you got a slower card.
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You know, if you click links, you learn stuff!
Class 2 and 4 cards have better random access speed and random read/write than class 6 or 10 cards in general. To get higher sequential write speeds, manufacturers sacrifice the random access speeds. That's just how it is.
The best all around card I've ever found is Sandisk class 4.
My 32gb Sandisk class 4 outperforms any other class 10 or 2 32gb card I've tested in the random access and random read/write speeds. That's what's most important when using with WP7 or Android when using it for apps or OS files that need to be accessed quickly. Class 6 and 10 cards are setup to initialize the area of the card that is about to be used to make the sequential write/read quicker, but it takes extra time in the beginning to do the initialization. If your using the card where you need to access small bits of info from various parts of card quickly, you will do best with class 2 or 4.
Most people seem to assume that the higher the class, the better the card is for everything, but that's not how it is. Different purposes need different kinds of speed... cards with higher sequential speeds have lower random speeds.
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You know, if you click links, you learn stuff!
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Samsung class 10 all day
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You know, if you click links, you learn stuff!
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If you try doing things on your own, you also learn stuff. Better stuff.
I use my SD card for storing files.
I back up my ROM to it.
I pull ROM's off it.
99% of the time I access my external SD card, it's to write a large file or read a large file.
So I guess my Class 10 SD card is faster than the best Class 4, 99% of the time for me. \
I've tested the times and measured the write times at least.
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I bet you also think the 6GB/s transfer speeds SATA6G claims means you actually get 6GB/s rates as well!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1150369
Let's all stop spreading wrong information, please? I was minutes away from getting a Class 10 MicroSD card last week when I read that post.... saved some money since I bought three Class 4's for $60 instead of two Class 10's for the same price!
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lol those are theoretical write speeds "sustained" (minimum meaning "at least")I posted, if I could paste links before I wouldve done it but I couldnt. Its not my fault that other companies rebrands their stuff so they don't have to make multiple models to save money. Yes companies do that too. And no when I think SATA6G i think Gigabits not gigabytes, if thats what you're thinking gigabytes then sorry bro.
I'm not giving wrong information you're just misinterpreting it because you don't understand it. I'm going based on the definition that they listed, not by benchmarks. If the benchmark shows that Class 6 outperforms Class 10 then thats awesome everyone should buy Class 6 then. But I'm not going to list that Class 6 performs 20MB/s and Class 10 performs 19MB/s... Like I said they're not all going to be the same because companies do that they will slap on whatever class to save money. The link you showed me click on it and read it, people will have various results how come the guy that bought 8 of the same memory got 22, 19 and 11MB/s on his results?
Speed Classes 2, 4, and 6 assert that the card supports the respective number of MB/s as a minimum sustained write speed for a card in a fragmented state. Class 10 asserts that the card supports 10 MB/s as a minimum non-fragmented sequential write speed.
http://www.sdcard.org/downloads/pls...ified_Specification_Ver_3.01_Final_100518.pdf
If you want to buy a lower class rating memory then thats up to you congrats you bought one! Just know that benchmarks are benchmarks just because they give you a big number doesn't mean its always better in real life scenarios. (Meaning most likely the card is empty when they do the benchmarks, not full).
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http://www.memorycardzoo.com/blog/5/What-is-Class-Speed-Rating/
You know what that means? "minimum" it doesnt say "maximum". Two different words. Anyways have fun with your purchase
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lol those are theoretical write speeds "sustained" (minimum meaning "at least")I posted, if I could paste links before I wouldve done it but I couldnt. Its not my fault that other companies rebrands their stuff so they don't have to make multiple models to save money. Yes companies do that too. And no when I think SATA6G i think Gigabits not gigabytes, if thats what you're thinking gigabytes then sorry bro.
I'm not giving wrong information you're just misinterpreting it because you don't understand it. I'm going based on the definition that they listed, not by benchmarks. If the benchmark shows that Class 6 outperforms Class 10 then thats awesome everyone should buy Class 6 then. But I'm not going to list that Class 6 performs 20MB/s and Class 10 performs 19MB/s... Like I said they're not all going to be the same because companies do that they will slap on whatever class to save money. The link you showed me click on it and read it, people will have various results how come the guy that bought 8 of the same memory got 22, 19 and 11MB/s on his results?
Speed Classes 2, 4, and 6 assert that the card supports the respective number of MB/s as a minimum sustained write speed for a card in a fragmented state. Class 10 asserts that the card supports 10 MB/s as a minimum non-fragmented sequential write speed.
http://www.sdcard.org/downloads/pls...ified_Specification_Ver_3.01_Final_100518.pdf
If you want to buy a lower class rating memory then thats up to you congrats you bought one! Just know that benchmarks are benchmarks just because they give you a big number doesn't mean its always better in real life scenarios. (Meaning most likely the card is empty when they do the benchmarks, not full).
http://www.memorycardzoo.com/blog/5/What-is-Class-Speed-Rating/
You know what that means? "minimum" it doesnt say "maximum". Two different words. Anyways have fun with your purchase
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It's ok, kryptos doesn't understand. I was enjoying that he was thinking his cards were faster. Oh well, now he knows.
Got one yesterday, thanks for the heads up
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Picked one up yesterday, thanks for the link!
Was thnkn of gettn one during this sale but i held off.....im glad i did.....bought a 32gb class 6 sd card for 10 bucks off craigslist.....
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jyazzie110 said:
Was thnkn of gettn one during this sale but i held off.....im glad i did.....bought a 32gb class 6 sd card for 10 bucks off craigslist.....
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What brand? All are not created equal
I got a 32 gb sandisk of eBay
Tapd on my skyrocket
xcrazydx said:
What brand? All are not created equal
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Samsung
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Samsung
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nice!
For anyone that may be wondering, the Class 10 Samsung has -
Read: Max 24MB/s
Write: Max 13MB/s
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For anyone that may be wondering, the Class 10 Samsung has -
Read: Max 24MB/s
Write: Max 13MB/s
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