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[Q] Evil, Wrong & Immoral!

Ok, maybe the title is a little over the top, but does anyone else feel that this is just a crime?
Selling HD2 Android Upgrade!
I'm sure HTC probably doesn't like it. And I'm double sure the people who have worked to create the tools to do would like their share if it's going to be sold.
Just my 2 cents.

If people are stupid enough to buy it who cares...

I agree with both posters so far. See some of the prices of phones on that site? Holy ****.

Have any of the actual developers commented on this yet, or have they been made aware?
I would hope that these IP thieves get what's coming to them, but sadly they'll probably be able to carry on profiting from other peoples work.

Geeting an HD2 and play around with your own Android installation is fine.
Selling HD2 with pre-installed Android orpaid Android installing service is a violation of ethics and moral.
Those price...it is criminal!!!
I hope the authority will do something against this kind of act.

Does this mean we might not see Netflix on Gtab?

Hi,
I just ran across this:
http://mobiputing.com/2011/02/qualcomm-netflix-to-bring-streaming-tv-and-movies-to-android/
I'm not knowledgeable about DRM issues, but that sounds like Netflix might only do an app on Android tabs that use a Qualcomm chip?
Then again, Netflix has app for Ipad/IPod, so...?
Any thoughts on this?
Netflix is one of the things that I've been waiting for on my Gtab ...
Jim

Jim,
Could be. But I read elsewhere earlier today that "Playon" -- whatever that is -- is developing a way for other android users.
I think there even was a thread here where someone was doing something with Playon to get Netflix.
It will be a sad day if they abandon the rest of Androiddom!
Rev

Why are we sitting back taking such crap. I think we should all consider cancelling Netflix because of this. Why are they punishing us yet again?
If they are so worried about piracy, the service should not be on PCs.
I'm tired of companies trying to pull the wool over our eyes.
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goalweiser said:
Why are we sitting back taking such crap. I think we should all consider cancelling Netflix because of this. Why are they punishing us yet again?
If they are so worried about piracy, the service should not be on PCs.
I'm tired of companies trying to pull the wool over our eyes.
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Exactly! I just had this argument with my friend. There is way less of a piracy issue on android than on a PC. Are they scared of apple getting mad? Netflix didn't give a sh¡t about pissing on Microsoft when they broke the Xbox exclusive contract, so why they shy about android. You don't pee in bill gates eye and then all of a sudden be afraid of giving Steve jobs the finger.

butchconner said:
Jim,
Could be. But I read elsewhere earlier today that "Playon" -- whatever that is -- is developing a way for other android users.
I think there even was a thread here where someone was doing something with Playon to get Netflix.
It will be a sad day if they abandon the rest of Androiddom!
Rev
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Hi,
I've been following that thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=935616&highlight=netflix
but was/am really hoping that we'd see a 'native' Netflix that could run on the Gtab ...
I've also seen some comments that Honeycomb might have some DRM capabilities built-in that might get Netflix to allow an Android apparently.
Still hoping!!
Jim

Why no love from 3r party devs?

Is it me or does it seem that the hole world of third party devs hate the transformer? It seems that the galaxy tab is the the one that keeps getting the apps that matter to us. I cant unerstand why it has net flix and we dont. And i just think i read that the galaxy now has support for video calling on skype. What the heck. Our device is great and still no third party cases or hardware have been built for the little tab. Then agian it may just be me.

Netflix is working just fine for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178773&highlight=Netflix
Running on Prime 1.6 Netformer OC 1.4 Spent several hours on vacation watching movies.
Just a suggestion.....you might try using the Search function here. Might be surprised what you'll find.

I think it'd be a better quote if it was that "stupidity has limits." I want NetFlix, but I'm not ready to void my warranty either..

asdfuogh said:
I think it'd be a better quote if it was that "stupidity has limits." I want NetFlix, but I'm not ready to void my warranty either..
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Unroot? How hard?
Root? One click

The Galaxy Tab only has Netflix via root as well. Do we really need another one of these "why don't we have Netflix" threads?

asdfuogh said:
I think it'd be a better quote if it was that "stupidity has limits." I want NetFlix, but I'm not ready to void my warranty either..
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what root has to do with avoiding your warranty?

he said "void"...rooting voids your warranty. of course, he can always unroot, but technically, he has void his warranty...except asus wouldn't know it.
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To his credit though... for as well as the Transformer sold, the dev scene is kind of sparse for this device.

Well I have absolutely no need for Netflix on a tablet, however remember that the Android tablet scene is still fairly young - especially with Honeycomb. Same thing happened with the phones, in the beginning people scoffed and stuff wasn't available. Now as we know they are outselling anything else everywhere

Drybonz said:
To his credit though... for as well as the Transformer sold, the dev scene is kind of sparse for this device.
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This.
Not too much interest

Wow, why are you do some forum members get pissy when someone ask a question? I really didn't know that the galaxy had to be rooted. I was also expressing that we don't even have case options for the thing. Usually there are sleeve silicone cover and hard cases. I'm not seeing much support, hell I don't even see the thing sold in large stores like staples Wal-Mart or best buy on the floor. Seems like Samsung has cornered the market some how thats all I'm saying. As for Netflix yes i would like it. Its not a deal breaker, No I have not rooted yet because I'm new to the device and don't fully understand the ramifications of doing it. I really wanted a device that would work out of the box as advertised. I should not have to root when there web site said NETFLIX. Like i said not a deal breaker and I love the device. It is an amazing machine but it seems like a lot of apps/3rd party add-ons are not available for our device.

skeeterpro said:
Netflix is working just fine for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178773&highlight=Netflix
Running on Prime 1.6 Netformer OC 1.4 Spent several hours on vacation watching movies.
Just a suggestion.....you might try using the Search function here. Might be surprised what you'll find.
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Ill take a look at this! Thank you for the link. I have been looking at Rooting my device but im confused on what a root is versus a rom and how it all works. Im reading the forums to gain a better understanding.

nego_0 said:
Wow, why are you do some forum members get pissy when someone ask a question? I really didn't know that the galaxy had to be rooted. I was also expressing that we don't even have case options for the thing. Usually there are sleeve silicone cover and hard cases. I'm not seeing much support, hell I don't even see the thing sold in large stores like staples Wal-Mart or best buy on the floor. Seems like Samsung has cornered the market some how thats all I'm saying. As for Netflix yes i would like it. Its not a deal breaker, No I have not rooted yet because I'm new to the device and don't fully understand the ramifications of doing it. I really wanted a device that would work out of the box as advertised. I should not have to root when there web site said NETFLIX. Like i said not a deal breaker and I love the device. It is an amazing machine but it seems like a lot of apps/3rd party add-ons are not available for our device.
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My best buy has them also office depot has them also but I don't know about Walmart I dont go there.

Exclusive: Someone Is Getting All Your Data And We Know How To Stop Them!

Well well well we just found out all your data is going to an Amazon server if you updated to the new 2.3.4 EVO and Sensation users. How long you use an app, What app you are using, The fact that you are rooted, the location you are using it from etc etc (without QIC) is being uploaded to an Amazon server un-encrypted. How's that for security? However thanks to Synergy team developer TrevE users of Synergy and the upcoming Eternity ROM from Virus will be secure against this obvious infringement of your privacy. What is HTC up to? And furthermore what other manufacturers are using similar methods? One thing Trev pointed out was your warranty can be voided immediately. They know you are rooted! The repercussions of this are astounding and frankly I am proud to be breaking this story with all of the work I have done here recently speaking out when I find are data being wrongly horded and used in nefarious ways. Kudos to TrevE and Virus for showing me this and helping the community find a way to put a stop to it. This is an ongoing game people and it is the aftermarket guys like Team Synergy and even journalist like myself who are a pretty good line of defense when crap like this comes up. They have your IMEI they know your location from the cell towers in hex and they know you are rooted. The best way to defend yourself is by rooting and flashing these guys ROMS period and that's a win win. Top of the line performance and defense against heinous invasion of your privacy.
for technical details including the nefarious code you can go HERE. The user behavior logs and other info are right in the thread of our sister site InfectedROM.com
The Synergy team and Revolution for the win... oh and when your using Synergy ROM and Eternity ROM this is what HTC will see..... Beat By Team Synergy. Jokes on them. I'm certainly laughing.
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Someone pointed this out to me so I thought I'd share it with you all.
Link to article

The reason it's going to Amazon is because HTC has servers with Amazon obviously... Damn this is a dumb, FUD-spreading, post.

persiansown said:
The reason it's going to Amazon is because HTC has servers with Amazon obviously... Damn this is a dumb, FUD-spreading, post.
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I dont think so...I am curious to know also....What are they doing with this data that they have NOT asked us to collect.

I think the op is going way overboard assuming these STATISTICS are being used " nefariously " sure, point it out, bit don't start throwing out accusations without evidence that harmful acts are being perpetrated and scaring the community into a state of paranoia.

I think the OP just copied and pasted the article, so no need to blame him.
And yea, the way the article is written just makes it seem like a rant and not very credible...

dear Op,
please tell us about the services activated under account and sync. then disabled them all and see, how like magic that traffic then is gone...

LOL. This is really written in such a sensational way that it's pretty funny that I really am fifty fifty believing this post. It's like the posts on the web that mention gain six pack ABS in six weeks no exercise. Ah well. Good thing I'm rooted and failed the update.
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OK, I'm calling BS, or at the very least calling it inaccurate. If you look up those IPs, they belong to amazonaws.com. If you look this up, you get Amazon Web Services. It's basically a bunch of cloud/database services they offer, for people and other companies to utilize. So while it may go to an Amazon server, it is most likely not actually going to Amazon. It is still just HTC, nothing different, just a different server. Also, WHO THE HELL CARES? It's not like it is constantly sending this data all the time. In fact, I'd be willing to bet this only gets sent when you actually submit one of those 'Tell HTC' forms that show up sometimes.

Well, one more spying us is not a problem

What an interesting post. Is there any kind of independent watchdog group who goes over all the code in these roms to see what is actually going on? I assume it's all open source, so they can't really hide what they're doing. How it works in the real world, however, I don't know.

"Exclusive: Someone Is Getting All Your Data And We Know How To Stop Them!"
Really?
This is an internet forum, not a tabloid newspaper/self-help magazine.

sound like to me that you just want people to download and use your rom. because if you knew a way to stop this why not post the fix ,no instead you want us to use your rom go suck and egg.bs

Now I get it...
Posts like these, thats what the 10 post minimum was all about. Too bad it missed this clown. If you've got a fix, post it. Shove your weak ROM and your weak tabloid marketing in your very loose arse. Jive... Is this where XDA is heading?

z3r0d3vil said:
Posts like these, thats what the 10 post minimum was all about. Too bad it missed this clown. If you've got a fix, post it. Shove your weak ROM and your weak tabloid marketing in your very loose arse. Jive... Is this where XDA is heading?
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you my good sir... are exactly what we need around here hahaha hilarious

Can they even do that as in htc? Isnt it like trespassing other people privacy?
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MxFadzil92 said:
Can they even do that as in htc? Isnt it like trespassing other people privacy?
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA Premium App
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Apparently they can, take a look in setting > about phone > legal information > HTC legal, its all there..
HTC Swyped from my Sensation using XDA Premium

*damo* said:
Apparently they can, take a look in setting > about phone > legal information > HTC legal, its all there..
HTC Swyped from my Sensation using XDA Premium
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well that is one clever move made by htc. -.- wthell man. no privacy !!! anyway thanks for the info though... cant believe that they did this kind of thing to their customer.

persiansown said:
The reason it's going to Amazon is because HTC has servers with Amazon obviously... Damn this is a dumb, FUD-spreading, post.
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The article is not questioning Amazon but HTC. And its a fact so FUD spreading I think not

Setting the Record Straight.
For the record I would never post anything that I wrote here on XDA i'm not responsible for the post. To the people who were interested in the information imparted in said post. Glad it helped. To the folks who think it's FUD. Too bad. To the folks who think I write a tabloid... well thats for the people reading it to decide. To the folks who think the fix isn't in the piece. Get your reading glasses. Oh and to the folks who don't like the fact that I promoted the developers who created the fix and think Synergy is a crappy ROM take that up with the developer of said ROMs. Thanks a million and have a blessed day.

daman215 said:
sound like to me that you just want people to download and use your rom. because if you knew a way to stop this why not post the fix ,no instead you want us to use your rom go suck and egg.bs
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z3r0d3vil said:
Posts like these, thats what the 10 post minimum was all about. Too bad it missed this clown. If you've got a fix, post it. Shove your weak ROM and your weak tabloid marketing in your very loose arse. Jive... Is this where XDA is heading?
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I don't necessarily believe it either but I wonder if you guys even clicked on the link because there's actually a bunch of source there, and explanations of what happens when you delete certain files that are harvesting info, and the source code that was used to "defeat" the info harvesting behaviors. I think this is interesting at the very least, if not true even if it was definitely presented in a sensational way.
I don't particularly care WHERE the data is going, I want to know WHY it's being collected in the first place, especially if it is not vital to the functioning of our mobile devices, which it seems pretty clear to all of us, it isn't. Even if YOU don't care about your info and data being harvested by google, some of us do and many of us find it very disconcerting.
Also, a guy with 14 posts trolling and asking where "XDA is heading" am I the only one that appreciates how ridiculous that is?

AndroidGuy31 touchpad youtube vid was a fake

Guy who posted a few days ago that he was going to release Android on touchpad instuctions via youtube faked it. Today he posted a new video ending in "go buy an Ipad". The whole thing was a setup.
Kinda crappy if you asked me.
Here is his channel. I say everyone give him a thumbs down.
http://www.youtube.com/user/AndroidGuy31

OMFG.......I was so excited about this and now...........sigh.......

let's not be so darn absolute
that was one user not indicative of any users on rootzwiki who do have natively running android versions on their touchpad thanks to qualcomm
the title is very misleading

The guy was full of BS from day one. He had no proof unlike the guy who has actual video (3 in fact) showing android running on his TP. A good dev should be able to rip that thing apart and get what we need to build an android os. I'm just glad that tablet ended up in the hands of someone who knew it was special. It could have been given to a 6 year old girl to watch Barbie movies on and parents who would not know the difference. Can you imagine if it fell into the hands of Tosh? FOURRRRRRRR!

domineus said:
let's not be so darn absolute
that was one user not indicative of any users on rootzwiki who do have natively running android versions on their touchpad thanks to qualcomm
the title is very misleading
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Nothing was absolute. My post was about the idiot who scammed everyone. Not anyone on rootzwiki.
Btw, I changed title just for you.

haha i knew that first video was BS
there's no way a dev would go through the effort of making a stupid teaser video without showing off ANY of their work.

Drawing and quartering is too good for that AndroidGuy31 person. He's probably been hacked so many times he's regretting leading folks on though at this point.

This thread title is a bit misleading. Edit?
On day 1 there were no less than 2-3 videos showing android running on the Touchpad. While a few called fake at the top of their lungs (and this android31 guy or whatever seems to be fake as hell) the other video was 100% legit.
Qualcomm Innovations apparently was using blank Touchpads as a work platform for software testing for an upcoming HTC tablet with very similar specs. Meaning they had a nearly fully functional port of android running on it. A number of these have made it out to the market somehow in this firesale, and at least one guy in TX has already posted willing to upload an image of his build.
edit for links:
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=3327&page=6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTLZHH50V7

skywalker6705 said:
This thread title is a bit misleading. Edit?
On day 1 there were no less than 2-3 videos showing android running on the Touchpad. While a few called fake at the top of their lungs (and this android31 guy or whatever seems to be fake as hell) the other video was 100% legit.
Qualcomm Innovations apparently was using blank Touchpads as a work platform for software testing for an upcoming HTC tablet with very similar specs. Meaning they had a nearly fully functional port of android running on it. A number of these have made it out to the market somehow in this firesale, and at least one guy in TX has already posted willing to upload an image of his build.
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http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=3327&page=6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTLZHH50V7
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Im not changing the title every time someone thinks its misleading. Thats why you open it and READ it. I posted a link to the video I am refering to in my OP.

dubie76 said:
Im not changing the title every time someone thinks its misleading. Thats why you open it and READ it. I posted a link to the video I am refering to in my OP.
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Your title makes it sound like there is just one video out there making this claim. That's the only reason I took issue with it, because it misleads people slightly. Someone just cross-posted in the thread I just made about the qualcomm port saying offhand that the other two videos I was discussing were faked. I don't think they are, and in any case they're entirely different from the video you're talking about.
AndroidGuy31 made a fake vid. More impressive is that there are now 3 videos of a functional android 2.2.1 port on youtube, one android touchpad listed on ebay, and one guy offering to image his for the community on a dev board. So either 3 people all spontaneously decided to hoax people with the same Android builds and situations, or maybe HP really did let some of the QI tablets out into the wild during this firesale, during which their shipping could barely handle demand. I really don't think the guys at the HP warehouses were paying attention what stack the box came from.
It's your thread though, I won't bring it up again. Just figured I'd ask since it'd be helpful.

skywalker6705 said:
Your title makes it sound like there is just one video out there making this claim. That's the only reason I took issue with it, because it misleads people slightly. Someone just cross-posted in the thread I just made about the qualcomm port saying offhand that the other two videos I was discussing were faked. I don't think they are, and in any case they're entirely different from the video you're talking about.
AndroidGuy31 made a fake vid. More impressive is that there are now 3 videos of a functional android 2.2.1 port on youtube, one android touchpad listed on ebay, and one guy offering to image his for the community on a dev board. So either 3 people all spontaneously decided to hoax people with the same Android builds and situations, or maybe HP really did let some of the QI tablets out into the wild during this firesale, during which their shipping could barely handle demand. I really don't think the guys at the HP warehouses were paying attention what stack the box came from.
It's your thread though, I won't bring it up again. Just figured I'd ask since it'd be helpful.
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Were cool bro. I am as excited about the port as you are. I guess I put too much hope into that guys vid and expected too much. Now I am still skeptical about these guys who have magically received tablets with android already on them. Seems a bit far fetched, but thats just my oppinion.
You also have a valid point about the other vids. Until they are proven fake, I guess we have to go with them. I do not want to spread false rumors or info so I went ahead and changed the title again.

Apparently the videos from that one guy may have been fake but the fact that someone had a touchpad with android on it is not fake. The dump of android 2.2.1 from a touchpad has now been posted on another dev forum. Let the waiting and anticipation continue!