Related
I've just received a new T-Mobile G1 and I am pretty desperate to update to a cupcake build. There's loads of guide here that will walk me through it no problem, but there are some things they don't explain fully (or at least, I can't find them).
Will I lose all my contacts and messages when I update? Will I lose all my T-Mobile data (like message settings, 3G settings etc.?). Will Market and everything else still work? What will stop functioning correctly when I do upgrade, specifically for T-Mobile in the UK?
Thanks a lot!
Tony
Funkstar De Luxe said:
I've just received a new T-Mobile G1 and I am pretty desperate to update to a cupcake build. There's loads of guide here that will walk me through it no problem, but there are some things they don't explain fully (or at least, I can't find them).
Will I lose all my contacts and messages when I update? Will I lose all my T-Mobile data (like message settings, 3G settings etc.?). Will Market and everything else still work? What will stop functioning correctly when I do upgrade, specifically for T-Mobile in the UK?
Thanks a lot!
Tony
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You will lose messages, you will not lose any T-Mobile data, you will not lose any contacts. I suggest you check out Haykuro's thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=498026
You will need root. And I suggest you go with haykuro's 4.5 build. I won't go in to any more detail, just do some research in haykuro's thread and others on how to get root, etc. Good luck.
Wel.. Where can i start? The cupcake your possibly reading about isnt fully working on G1 Yet..
I recomend you try one of the magic roms ported to G1, Preferbly 5.0H
Root is easy to achieve, Just read around.. Plenty ahve asked how to do this before, so please dont make new threads, Just read please
If you are referring to the ''Cupcake'' that T-Mobile is releasing this Easter then all these guys are wrong. If you do update to HTC Sapphire it will void your warranty and there's a small(Or large if you don't follow directions) that you could brick your brand new G1. The ''Cupcake'' that T-Mobile will release or at least hoping it will, will be coming in the next days. This update is 100% safe and will not do anything harmful to your g1. It wont even delete anything.
Mast3rmatt said:
If you are referring to the ''Cupcake'' that T-Mobile is releasing this Easter then all these guys are wrong. If you do update to HTC Sapphire it will void your warranty and there's a small(Or large if you don't follow directions) that you could brick your brand new G1. The ''Cupcake'' that T-Mobile will release or at least hoping it will, will be coming in the next days. This update is 100% safe and will not do anything harmful to your g1. It wont even delete anything.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
And as I've said in other threads re: Cupcake, I say we wait for JF to do his thing with it.
blackknightavalon said:
And as I've said in other threads re: Cupcake, I say we wait for JF to do his thing with it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's exactly what I'm planning to do. I was hard set against root when I first got my g1, but I have seen the light and enjoyed my rooted g1. Thank goodness for the jfupdater app
blackknightavalon said:
And as I've said in other threads re: Cupcake, I say we wait for JF to do his thing with it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Huh? That has nothing to do with my post other. My post was answering his question about ''CupCake'' from T-Mobile and not some other Rooted Cupcake. I understand that there are other cupcakes but the best will be T-Mobile for the time being.
I think I said CupCake enough times
Mast3rmatt said:
Huh? That has nothing to do with my post other. My post was answering his question about ''CupCake'' from T-Mobile and not some other Rooted Cupcake.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually, he asked about *a* Cupcake build - he made no mention of an official build, therefore it is reasonable to presume that he is referring to *one that is available* and not *one that isn't*.
I understand that there are other cupcakes but the best will be T-Mobile for the time being.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Really? For the time being, there is no T-Mobile Cupcake build so how it can it be best? Granted, if and when it comes out, it may well be superior, but that is by no means certain since Haykuros builds are getting better all the time.
If the OP is waiting on an official T-Mobile Cupcake update, I suggest there is no point asking around here since if he leaves his phone with a vanilla build, he'll get the update soon enough, if and when it is released.
Regards,
Dave
Thanks guys. I'm not waiting on the t-mobile build as I have little faith in them releasing it any time soon. I'll ask my question in a different way; what's the best build to put on my UK t-mobile G1? With regards to battery life and features? Thanks
I suggest you read the threads about rooting your G1. The first thing you have to do is downgrade to RC7, and get root. Then, don't accept any OTA (from T-Mobile) upgrades if you should get a notice.
After downgrading and getting root, read up on some of the different builds. You can go to JF's RC9, which is a modded version of the official UK one with root. I would really advise you to do this first, so you will know how to flash your roms, and how to flash the radio.
It will give you a stable version which won't accept OTA updates so you don't have to worry about losing root. (Plug your phone into a power source, or at the very least, be sure your battery has a full charge while flashing, and don't ever turn your phone off while it is flashing.)
After that, read threads like the one comparing the two Magic versions. 5.xG is the google version, and 5.xH is the HTC version.
Once you have gotten root and gone to RC9, you will be able to do something called a Nandroid backup of your phone. You will then be able to try both versions of magic, and also to restore your phone to RC9 if they don't work out for you without losing anything. (Another reason to try a more official mod before trying the Magic ones).
edit: I just found this on the Magic wiki page. It looks helpful: http://code.google.com/p/sapphire-port-dream/wiki/PageName
Have fun with it!
Has anyone had any luck with rooting this phone yet? I've scoured the net and so far the only rooting instructions I've found are for the European and South American variants of the Milestone.
Running custom roms isn't a big deal for me; at least not unless or until someone manages to port CyanogenMod to the Milestone But it sure would be nice to be able to run Market Enabler so that I can access paid apps without having to buy an unlock code and a U.S. sim. It would also be nice to be able to run MetaMorph too.
Anyway, I thought I'd get a thread started here so that people could post attempts and/or suggestions.
Charrion said:
Has anyone had any luck with rooting this phone yet? I've scoured the net and so far the only rooting instructions I've found are for the European and South American variants of the Milestone.
Running custom roms isn't a big deal for me; at least not unless or until someone manages to port CyanogenMod to the Milestone But it sure would be nice to be able to run Market Enabler so that I can access paid apps without having to buy an unlock code and a U.S. sim. It would also be nice to be able to run MetaMorph too.
Anyway, I thought I'd get a thread started here so that people could post attempts and/or suggestions.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I really hope they can root our milestone, I'm already having a huge problem with app space, I installed a few 3d games and i'm out of space... pathetic.
Otherwise I love the phone, even getting used to the keyboard. nice upgrade from the dream.
mkurzum said:
I really hope they can root our milestone, I'm already having a huge problem with app space, I installed a few 3d games and i'm out of space... pathetic.
Otherwise I love the phone, even getting used to the keyboard. nice upgrade from the dream.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, I'm not 100% sold on the keyboard compared to the dream yet. But the screen is so nice even the virtual keyboard works nice. I've still got 45MB free on the phone but it would be nice to have a little more room just in case.
I wish someone would root it. The one thing that's making me hold out from buying one is the fact that you can't buy paid apps in Canada. I'm actually considering *shudder* the iPhone...
i have European milestone with root but i dont think its easy to do apps2sd with root alone as the native kernel doesnt support ext3 partition and we cant change the kernel.
how idiotic Motorola is to lock down the android handsets except Droid. i am feeling alienated having used to custom ROMs. such an idiotic company with stupid rules.
This does not work for you?
http://www.sigridschrijft.be/index.php/root-your-motorola-milestone-2-0-1/
As for the software you want, there is http://droidappz.org/forum.php
P.S. I get Milestone tommorow But already made sure i can root it lol.
P.P.S. Sry Didint know Telus has different ROM, gues rly no root for you...
I would really like to do this too. I had the luck to get a pre released telus milestone. I have been trying to root it for the las month with no success. Apparently it all depends what build # you have. My build is: SHOLS_U2_03.04.0
rgdutriz said:
I would really like to do this too. I had the luck to get a pre released telus milestone. I have been trying to root it for the las month with no success. Apparently it all depends what build # you have. My build is: SHOLS_U2_03.04.0
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Slight difference from release ver, I've got SHOLS_U2_03.06.0
Damn so what does this mean? Are we screwed? We need a smartphone guru to get a telus milestone so he roots it?
rgdutriz said:
Damn so what does this mean? Are we screwed? We need a smartphone guru to get a telus milestone so he roots it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think that's pretty much it, except I can't afford to send Haykuro a Milestone just to get it rooted
Actually, looking at the simplicity of the patch (it just installs su and superuser.apk), I have a feeling that what's hanging us up is the signing of the .zip itself.
Unfortunately, I have no idea how to remedy the problem. If only we could get some help from the folks who managed to root the european Milestones...
Charrion said:
Actually, looking at the simplicity of the patch (it just installs su and superuser.apk), I have a feeling that what's hanging us up is the signing of the .zip itself.
Unfortunately, I have no idea how to remedy the problem. If only we could get some help from the folks who managed to root the european Milestones...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
charrion we will prob have more luck here then HF, no one seems to be doing anything to help there.
i dont know much about getting into things like this so i can only hope someone else comes up with something. i dont care about paid apps or anything cause i dont have a CC anyways. i just want my root so i can O/C and change the stupid white bar in the top. my top 2 reasons for root.
theres gotta be a way around it...
oh ya and i found a bug with the milestone
if you have launcher2 installed and try and use the mototorch widget it just reboots your phone.
so im back with original laucher :\
looks like we are getting 2.1 upgrade in Q2 2010, not sure what months are Q2 though...
https://supportforums.motorola.com/community/manager/softwareupgrades
perhaps there will be something changed so we can root after 2.1, would be nice!
EkostonS said:
looks like we are getting 2.1 upgrade in Q2 2010, not sure what months are Q2 though...
https://supportforums.motorola.com/community/manager/softwareupgrades
perhaps there will be something changed so we can root after 2.1, would be nice!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Q2 is Apr. May Jun.
We can always hope there will be something exploitable
i rooted a UK milestone a few weeks ago. the trick to root it was a modified update zip - that was changed in a very special way. it was built form two zip files attached. the first was the original update that was signed by the correct keys and the other was a "superuser.apk + su" update. keep looking for a hack like that and i hope you can find one soon.
oba1 said:
i rooted a UK milestone a few weeks ago. the trick to root it was a modified update zip - that was changed in a very special way. it was built form two zip files attached. the first was the original update that was signed by the correct keys and the other was a "superuser.apk + su" update. keep looking for a hack like that and i hope you can find one soon.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think that's the big problem. There have been no updates issued for the Telus Milestone since it was released with 2.0.1. We'll have to wait for the 2.1 update unless someone figures out another way around the signature lockout.
Charrion
where did you get your class 6 16gb card and how much?
i noticed the milestones came with 16gb and i was stoked, took it out and its a class 2....
EkostonS said:
Charrion
where did you get your class 6 16gb card and how much?
i noticed the milestones came with 16gb and i was stoked, took it out and its a class 2....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I got it at http://www.ncix.com, can't remember quite what I paid but the price was pretty decent.
back ontopic
has anyone heard anything about any progress on rooting this thing??
One of the thing holding me from experimenting more is the lack of a Telus SBF.
It could be possible to root by flashing a LATAM sbf and then rooting it. Latin America Rom uses the 850 frequency for 3G as well so we should retain the band.
One thing I saw in this thread is that there's two build version of this phone: SHOLS_U2_03.06.0 and SHOLS_U2_03.04.0, I wonder what's the difference.
Maybe it would be worth the try to contact TELUS and try to get a 3.04 "upgraded" to 3.06 then we might get our hand on a TELUS sbf which would be very usefull for many people with Milestone in North America and would be a nice safety to start playing with our phone.
That's just a thought, not very optimistic!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...pdate-to-allow-sideloading-on-select-devices/
Here come the bricks. Will you go back to stock just for a sideloading ota update when you can do this on any custom rom?
Caution swyping! Read at your own risk.
According to 99% of the threads here on XDA, if you even look at your Cappy the wrong way you run the risk of bricking it. lol
cappysw10 said:
Here come the bricks. Will you go back to stock just for a sideloading ota update when you can do this on any custom rom?
Caution swyping! Read at your own risk.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
KonaZXIII said:
According to 99% of the threads here on XDA, if you even look at your Cappy the wrong way you run the risk of bricking it. lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
FALSE!
the ONLY WAY to brick your device perminantly is to have a bad bootloader flash.
OTA will not mess with custom roms.
OTA for this update will not touch bootloaders.
i dont even have this problem or ATT but even I say thank you for not being dicks anymore ATT!!
Will this be rolling out to Eclair users or just Froyo? And if you're on Eclair will this OTA include the Froyo upgrade? Anyone gotten this OTA yet?
umm...? if you receive OTA updates, you will already be OTA updatED to froyo. no?
so if you are still on eclair... umm.. wait!.. why would anyone still be on eclair?
oh... im scared of flash video and voice search... lol
TRusselo said:
FALSE!
the ONLY WAY to brick your device perminantly is to have a bad bootloader flash.
OTA will not mess with custom roms.
OTA for this update will not touch bootloaders.
i dont even have this problem or ATT but even I say thank you for not being dicks anymore ATT!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was (mostly) being facetious there. I've been flashing and modding my phone for a while now and it has been next to impossible to hard brick.
well dont say stuff that can confuse the noobs please.
Anyone actually receive the update yet? Anyone who did, straight stock, rooted, any other notable differences?
Can we be connected via Wifi? Need to be on data network?
I just tried to see if it was available to me... nothing at 1pm in Atlanta
TRusselo said:
FALSE!
the ONLY WAY to brick your device perminantly is to have a bad bootloader flash.
OTA will not mess with custom roms.
OTA for this update will not touch bootloaders.
i dont even have this problem or ATT but even I say thank you for not being dicks anymore ATT!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
AT&T could f#@% up a wet dream. This could also be a plot to void your warranty. "You loaded an unauthorized app which caused your trouble, not our problem. Oh, btw, we'll sell you an Infuse cheap."
Caution swyping! Read at your own risk.
Can at least one post in any forum I've looked at site a source or show something more believable then one crappy blurry pic of a random computer screen. Heck why is it not even the whole screen? What is that a pic of, other then something somebody made up who was not even good enough to use photoshop?
TRusselo said:
umm...? if you receive OTA updates, you will already be OTA updatED to froyo. no?
so if you are still on eclair... umm.. wait!.. why would anyone still be on eclair?
oh... im scared of flash video and voice search... lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Froyo was never rolled out OTA was it? Thought it was a Kies update.
I'm helping my extremely tech-illiterate friend with her Captivate and I want to figure out exactly what the details are of the various updates so that I don't scare her with anything
I'm from I9000-land and I flash every couple of days But I'm a bit unfamiliar with the Captivate scene.
No they tried an OTA but it ended up bricking alot of devices due to no 3 button support. To be honest if it is not a kies update I would never touch it. To many things to go wrong with OTA. But we will see. It will most likely be 2.2 update
my question is would it cause any issues on a rooted stock froyo ?
I was just on-line with the Technical Support chat via the AT&T site and I asked the rep if she could confirm that this OTA update was even available. And she replied that she doesn't even see this update for the Captivate on her system. Not sure what's true or not...
I hope it's here in time for free plants vs. zombies, May 31st! I don't want my wife to have to pay. (I already have the Amazon Appstore on mine, of course).
ScottyNuttz said:
I hope it's here in time for free plants vs. zombies, May 31st! I don't want my wife to have to pay. (I already have the Amazon Appstore on mine, of course).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just grab it from the Amazon website and then once AT&T allows sideloading you can install the appstore and then install the game on your phone.
At least ATT is going in the right direction, however, they need to update all their android phones to have hsupa also then having a stock phone is not so bad but I have been able to sideload with out using a computer since getting the phone enabling non market apps since the first day on my captivate *Launch date*. I have been using HSUPA ever since I started using Custom roms after the first froyo leak was released by DG.. So nothing to really effect me at all with this news, but it is good that any future phones released will have at least this enabled..
Cheers,
Charlie
dmnall said:
At least ATT is going in the right direction, however, they need to update all their android phones to have hsupa also then having a stock phone is not so bad but I have been able to sideload with out using a computer since getting the phone enabling non market apps since the first day on my captivate *Launch date*. I have been using HSUPA ever since I started using Custom roms after the first froyo leak was released by DG.. So nothing to really effect me at all with this news, but it is good that any future phones released will have at least this enabled..
Cheers,
Charlie
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1
they may be late to the party but at least they deserve a lil love for moving in the right direction and at least in one regard listening to their customers. Now if they would just be smart enough to realize/admit charging for tethering is a scam and recognize the marketing bonanza "Free to Tether" would be.
TRusselo said:
FALSE!
the ONLY WAY to brick your device perminantly is to have a bad bootloader flash.
OTA will not mess with custom roms.
OTA for this update will not touch bootloaders.
i dont even have this problem or ATT but even I say thank you for not being dicks anymore ATT!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Don't tell that to other members of the Galaxy S family. OTA updates have occasionally done worse.
Is it normal that I still haven't gotten any OTA update? Im over in NY and went to stock ROM, went to stock recovery, and unrooted the phone. When is the OTA update rolling out until? Did it stop? I keep getting connection failed when manually looking for a software update.
And I don't want to manually use the LG tool because I am afraid of bricking the phone and don't want to go through the trouble of unbricking it.
I never got the OTA either and it was announced they stopped. The LG updating didn't brick my phone either.
I was actually wondering the same thing.
I called Tmo CS over a week ago, and he swore that I would be getting either an email, text or phone call, letting me know that I would be getting the update. He was nice, but I think he was new (didn't seem all that sharp). I did ask him about the rumor that they stopped the OTA, and he said that there was nothing about that in his system. He said, according to his system, it was still active. I asked him like 3x lol.
I have a refurb, so can't use the LG update tool. I know there is an alternate way of doing it, here on the forums, but I'm just too darn lazy lol. I will be calling Tmo again, in the next few days. If I get any useful info, I will pass it along to you.
I like my G2x, but honestly...between LG and Tmo, this has been one, huge clusterf**k. Thank God for the devs here, and around the net. They have done what LG and Tmo have continuously failed to do...made me a happy G2x owner!
ive had the same issue trying to do it by the phone so used LG tool and .... bricked my phone
i called Tmo and they exchanged my phone at no cost. the new one came with Gb preinstalled.
Why not just screw the OTA and grab one of the great custom, pre rooted roms. I did the OTA thing and had to re root. Ran the official update for two days and got tired of the thing. The custom roms spoil you.
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA Premium App
dalephil22 said:
Why not just screw the OTA and grab one of the great custom, pre rooted roms. I did the OTA thing and had to re root. Ran the official update for two days and got tired of the thing. The custom roms spoil you.
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA Premium App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm running EB 2.3.3, and love it. And thanks to EB, I also love my G2X again. But I would like to have the new baseband. And I can only get that from the update.
Really, what I think it comes down to (for me), is that I want T-Mobile to step the hell up, and stop jerking me around. How do you release an OTA...but only to SOME? I've just never heard of such a thing. And how do you release your "flagship" phone, then realize it's got issues, and then try to sweep all the owners of said "flagship" under the carpet...where you don't have to deal with them any more? It just makes me sad. I used to brag to all my friends, how much I loved T-Mobile.
dalephil22 said:
Why not just screw the OTA and grab one of the great custom, pre rooted roms. I did the OTA thing and had to re root. Ran the official update for two days and got tired of the thing. The custom roms spoil you.
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA Premium App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I kind of sympathize, but people recommend custom roms as a blanket solution to random issues way too often. Don't get me wrong, I love EB and CM, and xboarder's rom is fantastic, but the first two don't have a2dp and the latter won't still give you a new baseband. For people like me who have a non-functional gps and rely on a2dp, the official update is pretty critical.
Also, is there any evidence suggesting T-Mobile actually pulled the update? I think I know the post where this rumor started, and for what it's worth, a pretty knowledgeable rep told me about a week ago that the OTA is still rolling out, and will continue to do so through August. If the roll-out is slow, I don't think its too surprising considering what little space lg has to screw up again.
[EDIT] http://www.tmonews.com/2011/08/t-mo...ad-ota-rollout-manual-update-still-available/
heysharon said:
I kind of sympathize, but people recommend custom roms as a blanket solution to random issues way too often. Don't get me wrong, I love EB and CM, and xboarder's rom is fantastic, but the first two don't have a2dp and the latter won't still give you a new baseband. For people like me who have a non-functional gps and rely on a2dp, the official update is pretty critical.
Also, is there any evidence suggesting T-Mobile actually pulled the update? I think I know the post where this rumor started, and for what it's worth, a pretty knowledgeable rep told me about a week ago that the OTA is still rolling out, and will continue to do so through August. If the roll-out is slow, I don't think its too surprising considering what little space lg has to screw up again.
[EDIT] http://www.tmonews.com/2011/08/t-mo...ad-ota-rollout-manual-update-still-available/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well here it is posted on T-Mobile Support forum. The post says its created by T-Mobile so I'd say its legit, not a rumor.
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-2362
G2X CM7
Actually, although EB 2.3.5 doesn't have A2DP, EB 2.3.3 does.
And the mms works SO much better than other ROMS I've tried.
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App
Yeah, the link I posted above was the same notice from a secondary source.
heysharon said:
Yeah, the link I posted above was the same notice from a secondary source.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But you called it a rumor. Looks pretty official to me.
G2X CM7
Helped a friend root his NS4G on sprint. Are there talks that ICS is coming OTA anytime soon?
If that's the case, I may have to unroot and stock him so he can get it. ughhh
dont know man your quess is as good as ours???
Just be patient and some really good roms will start coming out soon!
punwik said:
dont know man your quess is as good as ours???
Just be patient and some really good roms will start coming out soon!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
personally I never worry about OTAs. They do nothing but cause problems imho. I just wait for one of the smart guys here to port it and then I get it. But this thing is for a friend that lives out of town and I won't be there to help him once he leaves. I don't even know if this phone is going to get the ICS anytime soon when the Galaxy Nexus isn't even out yet (in the US that is). My guess is next summer the way Sprint sooooooowly rolls things out.
loveubuntu said:
personally I never worry about OTAs. They do nothing but cause problems imho. I just wait for one of the smart guys here to port it and then I get it. But this thing is for a friend that lives out of town and I won't be there to help him once he leaves. I don't even know if this phone is going to get the ICS anytime soon when the Galaxy Nexus isn't even out yet (in the US that is). My guess is next summer the way Sprint sooooooowly rolls things out.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
In theory the ICS OTA should be completely independent of Sprint or any other carrier but I don't if Sprint has to do any fiddling with it because their network is CDMA and not GSM.
Verizon is supposedly getting the the Galaxy Nexus on the 8th so the OTA will be pushed to the NS some time after that. Taking in to consideration Christmas and New Years I'd say the earliest we can expect to get the OTA is the end of January. But who knows maybe Google will push us some OTA holiday cheer