For reasons too dull to go into, i, or rather the company i work for, will be selling a few XDA's over the next few months - starting with about 20, but ultimately i'll have about 100 to get rid of, some II's, mostly IIi's, and a few IIs's.
The nick they're in varies from "scratched to buggery" to "brand new".
I have no idea what a fair price to put on them is - i was going to shift them on eBay, and just offer a "buy it now"price, depending on conition - say £50 for a working but ugly II to £150 for a shiny new IIs, still in its packaging - i can crack them, obv.
So, what's a sensible price that will get the company some money - thats my job after all, while still being reasonable considering what it is i'm actually selling -
Thanks
There are specialist companies who will liquidate your old phones but they pay silly low money eg about £20 per PDA style phone...
You need to complete the accessories bundle for as many of the good condition ones as you can and if you have any of the installation CD's perhaps copy them so all have one - a pdf of the manual is a good idea too. Use pictures of the actual item not a generic photo, unlock them using the tools on this site and maybe even throw in a PAYG sim - available cheaply on ebay, but above all be honest in the description of the unit. And test them all if you can. Note the seriels and if the warranty sticker intact before sending ( if not, apply your own)
Even faulty ones with smashed screens get £50 so your 'rough but working' should make at least £70 hopefully.
Hope this helps.
Richard
Thank you Richard - I should have mentioned i have all the accessories, though i'm perhaps 10% short on stylus's. I could easily offer two each of charger battery and case, if that would be an incentive.
Personally i'm a fairly well established eBayer, so i'll be inclined to use my own account rather than start a new one, and i wouldn't want to do anything that would merit negative feedback, so i'll be scrupulously honest -
if it would be in the spirit of the thing once i've decided a sensible price, i'll offer them here first less 10% or so
i've stuck a sort of "feeler" on eBay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9715068209&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MESE:IT&rd=1
i KNOW the pictures are awful, but i'm assuming most people who would buy an XDA know what it looks like. Feedback appreciated as i'm REALLY good at buying on eBay but not so good at selling.
Too cheap? :lol:
Richard
flip!
it sold already!
i'm obviously not asking enough
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Not sure if this is the right area to post this or if it been posted before, but was just wondering on other opinions of googles hidden costs when buying apps off the market.
Not sure if this only happens in certain countries but I am in the uk and when I buy an app that is priced in euro's there is a 'hidden' £1.50 charge applied to my card, so a $1 app really costs about £2.30. So if I buy 10 apps, google make £15 quid off me!
I feel this is totally unfair and am wondering of the legalities of not even warning about this charge when you buy the app?
And also it does not seem fair that google are making money off the hard work of developers, I know they get a share of the price but then they also get the extra 'card charge'.....the word ripoff springs to mind here!
I live in the states and I haven't experienced this, perhaps it has something to do with the conversion rate?
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Not sure if this is the right area to post this or if it been posted before, but was just wondering on other opinions of googles hidden costs when buying apps off the market.
Not sure if this only happens in certain countries but I am in the uk and when I buy an app that is priced in euro's there is a 'hidden' £1.50 charge applied to my card, so a $1 app really costs about £2.30. So if I buy 10 apps, google make £15 quid off me!
I feel this is totally unfair and am wondering of the legalities of not even warning about this charge when you buy the app?
And also it does not seem fair that google are making money off the hard work of developers, I know they get a share of the price but then they also get the extra 'card charge'.....the word ripoff springs to mind here!
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I don't think it is like that. Other people will confirm, but I guess it may be some thing with your credit card or bank, as I believe this does not happen to almost anyone.
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I don't think it is like that. Other people will confirm, but I guess it may be some thing with your credit card or bank, as I believe this does not happen to almost anyone.
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Well it happens to me whenever I buy an app that is in euros, on two different bank cards with different banks, and the money goes to google as it says it on the statement next to the charge.
what I'm getting at is even if it does only happen to a small amount of people (or even just myself), does it make it any less unfair to not warn of this?
And some may say well just buy apps that are in £'s but then I would be missing out on a hell of a lot of apps
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Well it happens to me whenever I buy an app that is in euros, on two different bank cards with different banks, and the money goes to google as it says it on the statement next to the charge.
what I'm getting at is even if it does only happen to a small amount of people (or even just myself), does it make it any less unfair to not warn of this?
And some may say well just buy apps that are in £'s but then I would be missing out on a hell of a lot of apps
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I think it just fits to your problem:
http://www.techeye.net/mobile/android-apps-conceal-hidden-charges
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I think it just fits to your problem:
http://www.techeye.net/mobile/android-apps-conceal-hidden-charges
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Thanks for that, explains a lot, I think google should definitely start showing the true price of apps before you buy them, and warn of any charges you may incur....Is it any wonder that people use cracked apps!
To be honest, I hadn't noticed that VAT wasn't included in the prices, I just presumed they had it set up so that your local VAT rate was included (wouldn't be hard to do).
As for the £1.50 charge, that's down to your bank to inform you of it, which I bet they did, but you (like the rest of us) just never got round to reading the small print in the bumf that came with our accounts.
dbzfanatic said:
I live in the states and I haven't experienced this, perhaps it has something to do with the conversion rate?
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Same here. Never seen such a thing. (Also in the states.)
dgalanter said:
Same here. Never seen such a thing. (Also in the states.)
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Yeah probably a UK thing....they are always finding ways to sting us for more money here
It'll be your bank's handling charge for exchanging £ to €
The same as if you jumped on the ferry and bought a bottle of wine with your bank card rather than cash.
If you don't think your account should incur charges for non £ transactions (ie you're sure it says you won't be charged in your terms and conditions), then contact you bank and complain.
Demand the refund of £1.50 (was VAT added to the charge? I suspect it was so add an extra 20%) and £10 as compensation for their mistake.
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It'll be your bank's handling charge for exchanging £ to €
The same as if you jumped on the ferry and bought a bottle of wine with your bank card rather than cash.
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I'll just pay with with coins next time then eh?........now where's the coin slot on my phone?
And getting charges back from a UK bank......dont make me laugh
thanks for the info
rosso22 said:
I'll just pay with with coins next time then eh?........now where's the coin slot on my phone?
And getting charges back from a UK bank......dont make me laugh
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Email the developer and ask if you can post them some dosh
If your terms and conditions state that there is no charge for foreign transactions, then under the banking rules you're entitiled to those charges back.
Quite often a polite phone call even when the charges are valid can result in them being refunded.
I've had overdraft charges refunded simply because I phoned up and had a bit of joke with the person in the call centre, they have a thankless job putting up with customers abusing them for mistakes the poor sods aren't responsible for, if you can make one of their's day, they can give in to resonable requests.
Like when O2 barred my phone without warning me because my bank screwed up my direct debit. 4 days after making a manual payment the bar still hadn't lifted, so I got through to a west indian woman and while she was looking into it I said "I just wanna use my phone" in a jokey way, she laughed and sorted it and credited me £15.
Maybe with Google's plan for a web based marketstore they'll be the option to add apps to your basket and pay in one go, so only 1 charge, doubt it though.
I still cannot believe they have not sorted this. The majority of UK debit cards will charge £1 - £1.50 for every transaction, meaning that I (and surely thousands of others) have completely avoided buying budget apps as it just makes them too expensive.
There has been some talk of a paypal or charge through your phone provider option, but no sign of either in the UK yet.
There are a couple of accounts and credit cards that don't charge a set fee, often credit cards have say a 2.5% charge on conversions that's perfectly acceptable for small purchases ... well a lot better than £1.50!
Another person from the states here, and i've never encountered something like this
lol, it's not a big deal. Although i did find out unexpectedly
I hope with carrier billing will come to the rest of the civilized world, until then you have to deal with your local financial laws and jump through hoops.
I have been getting similar. Frustrating and hard to get around without calling the bank to check their daily forex rate and having their list of card charges handy before calculating the actual price manually. Seems a PITB for a $2 app
Im from Mexico and I experienced something similar, I just bought one of the 10 cents Apps and I got the notification of two charges, both from Google, one for the 10 cents and one for $1 US. I know its not my bank, because I've used my card on a recent trip to the US and my bank didnt apply any extra charges, besides on the detail of the transaction it says GOOGLE GOOGLE.COM/CHCA US for the extra...
Any news from google on that?
$0.10 apps really only cost $0.10 for me in Canada
I've written a Windows Phone 7 application to display the Ordnance Survey maps that are loved so much in the UK (I am amazed that no-one else has done this yet). However I was about to shell out the £65 to pay for the app hub and get my app to the marketplace when I started investigating how you actually get paid for the apps that people buy. Apparently if you are not a US developer then you have to start sending over forms e.g. W8BEN form? and even after this the IRS takes another 30% (after MS have taken their 30% share). It also mentions VAT so maybe there is more money taken off after this as well???
Has anyone from outside the US actually got all the paperwork sorted so they got paid? Did you get tax taken off as well? What percentage of the sales do you actually end up with? Is it all worth it?
I don't expect to make much from the app but I would like to think I could recoup my £65 and have enough to buy a couple of beers as well.
I'm thinking of using this app for simple transactions and was wondering if there were any drawbacks to using this app.
How does a person sign for the transaction on the app?
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I'm thinking of using this app for simple transactions and was wondering if there were any drawbacks to using this app.
How does a person sign for the transaction on the app?
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I had this similar question about Square awhile back. I have since been using it for awhile and am more than satisfied.
Buyers sign the signature box with their finger or a stylus directly on the phone screen.
Only things I've found sort of irking contrary to other users results is I have some issues when swiping. At times it takes multiple swipes to get the card reader to read but eventually works. However, you always have the option of manually entering a card number although it'll cost you a few cents more per transaction.
Thread is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1335902&highlight=square
I've been using Square for a few weeks now, and it's great. I don't run a business or anything, but it's nice too have. Even for something simple like going out for lunch at work and then having coworkers pay me back via credit card, it works great.
I processed several thousand dollars worth of transactions at this year's seattle hempfest thanks to square without any issues aside from the previously noted swipe issues... sometimes you have to try several times. not a single hitch even with the huge volume of network traffic in the area during that weekend.
I'd recommend it. I think, without it, it would have been a much less profitable weekend. people were very impressed with how quick and easy it was and the fact that they could be given an OTA receipt immediately after purchasing.
I also like that you can use it on any smartphone with an aux port and the square app without any separate configuration or anything. it just works. very convenient.
if you weigh the convenience factor against the cost factor, I think it's definitely a powerful tool to have if you are a small business owner or someone like myself who occasionally does crafty type stuff to sell on the side. all the equipment you need to process transactions is a little piece of plastic that fits in your pocket? yeah, it's awesome.
The more I hear about this Square tech, the more interested I become. Seeing people who have stories about it's success on such a scale really makes it attractive.
Knowing virtually nothing about it - and my interest being more in how it works then actually using it - is there a cost to entry for an account or do you pay on a per-transaction basis?
All I know about it I've seen here in the MT4GS forums, and I'm sure a simple search would answer a lot of my questions...but no harm in seeing if others want to concentrate info about it here I guess.
If someone feels like going off on a rant about it, you've got at least one attentive reader
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Knowing virtually nothing about it - and my interest being more in how it works then actually using it - is there a cost to entry for an account or do you pay on a per-transaction basis?
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No cost for the account, and they even send you the card reader for free. The only cost is 2.75% per swipe. I don't use it for business stuff, but I've still found lots of uses for it. Everything from (like I said before) going out for lunch at work and paying for it myself, then having coworkers pay be back with their cards, to getting money for random stuff people owe me. For example, I sold an old computer monitor to a friend and he paid me with his card. Works like a charm.
So whether you do 1 transaction a month or a thousand, it's still the same flat fee per swipe.
I've never had a card swipe issue either, but I haven't done as many as those who run businesses with it. Works like a charm.
$2.75 cents per $100 for doing nothing but driving up your bank stock price with lies and then having me bail you out with taxes that can no longer go to my tuition and fees?
The tech is sweet. That 2.75% fee? Not so much.
If you want to charge a convenience fee to reclaim your 2.75% fee for completing the transaction, take the amount owed to you and divide it by .9725 (i.e. 1 - .0275).
For example, if someone pays you 20 bucks, you will only get $19.45 after the 2.75% fee is assessed. To make up for that, take 20 and divide by .9725 and you get $20.57 (rounded to the nearest hundredth).
Now when you charge $20.57 you will get back $20 after the 2.75% fee.