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Selling XDA's

For reasons too dull to go into, i, or rather the company i work for, will be selling a few XDA's over the next few months - starting with about 20, but ultimately i'll have about 100 to get rid of, some II's, mostly IIi's, and a few IIs's.
The nick they're in varies from "scratched to buggery" to "brand new".
I have no idea what a fair price to put on them is - i was going to shift them on eBay, and just offer a "buy it now"price, depending on conition - say £50 for a working but ugly II to £150 for a shiny new IIs, still in its packaging - i can crack them, obv.
So, what's a sensible price that will get the company some money - thats my job after all, while still being reasonable considering what it is i'm actually selling -
Thanks

There are specialist companies who will liquidate your old phones but they pay silly low money eg about £20 per PDA style phone...
You need to complete the accessories bundle for as many of the good condition ones as you can and if you have any of the installation CD's perhaps copy them so all have one - a pdf of the manual is a good idea too. Use pictures of the actual item not a generic photo, unlock them using the tools on this site and maybe even throw in a PAYG sim - available cheaply on ebay, but above all be honest in the description of the unit. And test them all if you can. Note the seriels and if the warranty sticker intact before sending ( if not, apply your own)
Even faulty ones with smashed screens get £50 so your 'rough but working' should make at least £70 hopefully.
Hope this helps.
Richard

Thank you Richard - I should have mentioned i have all the accessories, though i'm perhaps 10% short on stylus's. I could easily offer two each of charger battery and case, if that would be an incentive.
Personally i'm a fairly well established eBayer, so i'll be inclined to use my own account rather than start a new one, and i wouldn't want to do anything that would merit negative feedback, so i'll be scrupulously honest -
if it would be in the spirit of the thing once i've decided a sensible price, i'll offer them here first less 10% or so

i've stuck a sort of "feeler" on eBay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9715068209&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MESE:IT&rd=1
i KNOW the pictures are awful, but i'm assuming most people who would buy an XDA know what it looks like. Feedback appreciated as i'm REALLY good at buying on eBay but not so good at selling.

Too cheap? :lol:
Richard

flip!
it sold already!
i'm obviously not asking enough

Best way of selling a phone? (UK)

Hi all,
What is your opinion of the best way of selling a phone in the UK?
An obvious choice would be eBay, but as you know the mobile phone section of eBay is flooded with scammers, in fact, nearly half of the phones on eBay are won by scammers. And of course there is a fact that eBay's charges are quite scary.
But other than eBay, I can't think of any other places that you can remotely sell a phone for a reasonable price.
What do you reckon?
Thanks.

Try this website..... http://london.craigslist.co.uk/
Can't vouch for the quality of the london version but its toronto counterpart is a quick and surefire way to sell electronics. Allows you to find someone who resides close to where you live/work so that you can meet face to face to avoid scams. I'm sure there are many other classified websites such as this for your area. A google search would do the trick I guess...

wywywywy said:
Hi all,
What is your opinion of the best way of selling a phone in the UK?
An obvious choice would be eBay, but as you know the mobile phone section of eBay is flooded with scammers, in fact, nearly half of the phones on eBay are won by scammers. And of course there is a fact that eBay's charges are quite scary.
But other than eBay, I can't think of any other places that you can remotely sell a phone for a reasonable price.
What do you reckon?
Thanks.
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http://www.adtrader.co.uk
Its free and they call you - but your number is supressed as its diverted through a personal numbering system.
They assign you a number like 07050 1234567 for your ad that diverts to your landline.
If someone calls you from a PAYG phone take their number and call them back - as calling them back is something high per min.

Did anyone buy from chinamobile?

Hello everyone,
I found a man called Kenny Taylor that sells phones,and I compared prices,
he`s prices are ridiculously low,
he`s saying that he works at chinamobile as a sales rep,
though I really couldn`t find any information about him or about phones in the site,I could manage to see only blackberry`s there.
He claims that the phones are brand new,in original box and with all accessories and they are not china clones.
He`s quotes for the phones I wanted -
iPhone 3GS 16GB (unlocked) - 300$
iPhone 3GS 32GB (unlocked) - 350$
HTC Hero - 250$
HTC Nexus one - 230$
International shipping via Fedex/USPS - 60$.
The prices here are 300$ less than the MSRP,and I don`t know if I should buy from him - maybe it`s a scam or something.
If anyone knows the person/company,and did buy from one of them - it would be nice to hear about that.
*if the thread is not in the right section of the forum,it would be nice if you could move it to the correct one*
**this thread is not about advertising the company/the guy,just for information matters**
Lots of thanks,
Danny.

100% SCAM!! Those prices are ludicrous, no way in hell are those real, most likely you will get nothing at all. and FYI, mobiles and pretty much all electronics are more expensive in China than in the US, and China Mobile shops are the MOST expensive places. STAY AWAY!

Thank you mlalahoi, actually I was going to buy the nexus one from him,
knew I should ask in here first.

Quick update -
I have got an answer from the company,I have to say that it sounds very believable..
Thanks for your mail.
This person that you are talking about i don't no him but he can be a
scammer too that want to you buy from him...
So i will advice you to buy from us to try and have believe in the
company...we no that there is alot of scam out there.
We are not scam we are real company that as been in business for more
then 8 years now...once we confirm your payment we are going to ship
the phone to you at your home address.
The reason the price is so low is the we buy direct from the company
that product the phone in bulks and right now we are running promo in
the company for buy 3units and get 1 for free.
So if you are going to buy the Htc Nexus one only the payment is via
western union not paypa...because is too low for the payment
condition.
Below is the condition about that payment
Any orders form $100usd to $3000usd=== via western union.
Any orders form $3000usd to $4500usd=== via bank transfer.
Any order form $4500usd above is via paypal.
So you are going to pay the money via western union money transfer.
So get back with your shipping address information so that we can
started packing and label your order ready for shipment.
Regards
Sale Rep.
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dany74q said:
Quick update -
I have got an answer from the company,I have to say that it sounds very believable..
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That's not believable at all if you know what to look for. First, the grammar and spelling is atrocious. Any real company would take the time to actually write their correspondence letters in a professional manner. Secondly, a legitimate, respectable company would never use Western Union to transfer money, no matter the amount. Every money transfer scam I've ever seen uses Western Union, since it's not traceable or reversable. I would not buy from any seller selling new devices at those rediculous prices; even if bought at wholesale prices, they would lose a lot of money selling that cheap. My advice is to stick with a reputable seller so you don't end up losing a few hundred dollars and not get anything in return, as I can guarantee you won't get what you order from these people.

Thank you for your answer Dave,I`ll stay away.
Once again - thank you all for your time.

dany74q said:
Thank you for your answer Dave,I`ll stay away.
Once again - thank you all for your time.
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It's not that bad, heh, but there are a few things you should keep in mind:
do not buy "genuine" stuff from China, either you're gonna get a fake or worse: nothing
go with established stores like DealExtreme or FocalPrice
use only PayPal, only scammers use Western Union
engrish is somewhat the norm, even with bigger stores :/
if you're getting a phone from there, choose one which has been properly reviewed, DealExtreme is very good in that regard as they have a very active forum and users , so you know what are you buying

If she reaches for a handful you'd better have the energy!

Android market 'hidden' costs

Not sure if this is the right area to post this or if it been posted before, but was just wondering on other opinions of googles hidden costs when buying apps off the market.
Not sure if this only happens in certain countries but I am in the uk and when I buy an app that is priced in euro's there is a 'hidden' £1.50 charge applied to my card, so a $1 app really costs about £2.30. So if I buy 10 apps, google make £15 quid off me!
I feel this is totally unfair and am wondering of the legalities of not even warning about this charge when you buy the app?
And also it does not seem fair that google are making money off the hard work of developers, I know they get a share of the price but then they also get the extra 'card charge'.....the word ripoff springs to mind here!

I live in the states and I haven't experienced this, perhaps it has something to do with the conversion rate?

rosso22 said:
Not sure if this is the right area to post this or if it been posted before, but was just wondering on other opinions of googles hidden costs when buying apps off the market.
Not sure if this only happens in certain countries but I am in the uk and when I buy an app that is priced in euro's there is a 'hidden' £1.50 charge applied to my card, so a $1 app really costs about £2.30. So if I buy 10 apps, google make £15 quid off me!
I feel this is totally unfair and am wondering of the legalities of not even warning about this charge when you buy the app?
And also it does not seem fair that google are making money off the hard work of developers, I know they get a share of the price but then they also get the extra 'card charge'.....the word ripoff springs to mind here!
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I don't think it is like that. Other people will confirm, but I guess it may be some thing with your credit card or bank, as I believe this does not happen to almost anyone.

antonio1475 said:
I don't think it is like that. Other people will confirm, but I guess it may be some thing with your credit card or bank, as I believe this does not happen to almost anyone.
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Well it happens to me whenever I buy an app that is in euros, on two different bank cards with different banks, and the money goes to google as it says it on the statement next to the charge.
what I'm getting at is even if it does only happen to a small amount of people (or even just myself), does it make it any less unfair to not warn of this?
And some may say well just buy apps that are in £'s but then I would be missing out on a hell of a lot of apps

rosso22 said:
Well it happens to me whenever I buy an app that is in euros, on two different bank cards with different banks, and the money goes to google as it says it on the statement next to the charge.
what I'm getting at is even if it does only happen to a small amount of people (or even just myself), does it make it any less unfair to not warn of this?
And some may say well just buy apps that are in £'s but then I would be missing out on a hell of a lot of apps
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I think it just fits to your problem:
http://www.techeye.net/mobile/android-apps-conceal-hidden-charges

antonio1475 said:
I think it just fits to your problem:
http://www.techeye.net/mobile/android-apps-conceal-hidden-charges
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Thanks for that, explains a lot, I think google should definitely start showing the true price of apps before you buy them, and warn of any charges you may incur....Is it any wonder that people use cracked apps!

To be honest, I hadn't noticed that VAT wasn't included in the prices, I just presumed they had it set up so that your local VAT rate was included (wouldn't be hard to do).
As for the £1.50 charge, that's down to your bank to inform you of it, which I bet they did, but you (like the rest of us) just never got round to reading the small print in the bumf that came with our accounts.

dbzfanatic said:
I live in the states and I haven't experienced this, perhaps it has something to do with the conversion rate?
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Same here. Never seen such a thing. (Also in the states.)

dgalanter said:
Same here. Never seen such a thing. (Also in the states.)
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Yeah probably a UK thing....they are always finding ways to sting us for more money here

It'll be your bank's handling charge for exchanging £ to €
The same as if you jumped on the ferry and bought a bottle of wine with your bank card rather than cash.
If you don't think your account should incur charges for non £ transactions (ie you're sure it says you won't be charged in your terms and conditions), then contact you bank and complain.
Demand the refund of £1.50 (was VAT added to the charge? I suspect it was so add an extra 20%) and £10 as compensation for their mistake.

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It'll be your bank's handling charge for exchanging £ to €
The same as if you jumped on the ferry and bought a bottle of wine with your bank card rather than cash.
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I'll just pay with with coins next time then eh?........now where's the coin slot on my phone?
And getting charges back from a UK bank......dont make me laugh

thanks for the info

rosso22 said:
I'll just pay with with coins next time then eh?........now where's the coin slot on my phone?
And getting charges back from a UK bank......dont make me laugh
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Email the developer and ask if you can post them some dosh
If your terms and conditions state that there is no charge for foreign transactions, then under the banking rules you're entitiled to those charges back.
Quite often a polite phone call even when the charges are valid can result in them being refunded.
I've had overdraft charges refunded simply because I phoned up and had a bit of joke with the person in the call centre, they have a thankless job putting up with customers abusing them for mistakes the poor sods aren't responsible for, if you can make one of their's day, they can give in to resonable requests.
Like when O2 barred my phone without warning me because my bank screwed up my direct debit. 4 days after making a manual payment the bar still hadn't lifted, so I got through to a west indian woman and while she was looking into it I said "I just wanna use my phone" in a jokey way, she laughed and sorted it and credited me £15.
Maybe with Google's plan for a web based marketstore they'll be the option to add apps to your basket and pay in one go, so only 1 charge, doubt it though.

I still cannot believe they have not sorted this. The majority of UK debit cards will charge £1 - £1.50 for every transaction, meaning that I (and surely thousands of others) have completely avoided buying budget apps as it just makes them too expensive.
There has been some talk of a paypal or charge through your phone provider option, but no sign of either in the UK yet.
There are a couple of accounts and credit cards that don't charge a set fee, often credit cards have say a 2.5% charge on conversions that's perfectly acceptable for small purchases ... well a lot better than £1.50!

Another person from the states here, and i've never encountered something like this

lol, it's not a big deal. Although i did find out unexpectedly

I hope with carrier billing will come to the rest of the civilized world, until then you have to deal with your local financial laws and jump through hoops.

I have been getting similar. Frustrating and hard to get around without calling the bank to check their daily forex rate and having their list of card charges handy before calculating the actual price manually. Seems a PITB for a $2 app

Im from Mexico and I experienced something similar, I just bought one of the 10 cents Apps and I got the notification of two charges, both from Google, one for the 10 cents and one for $1 US. I know its not my bank, because I've used my card on a recent trip to the US and my bank didnt apply any extra charges, besides on the detail of the transaction it says GOOGLE GOOGLE.COM/CHCA US for the extra...
Any news from google on that?

$0.10 apps really only cost $0.10 for me in Canada

Make charitable donations every time you buy on Amazon.. automatically

If you are like me then you love Amazon and you order a lot from there!
But a while ago I discovered Amazon Smile - this program automatically donates a portion (~0.5% I think) to a charity of your choosing every time you buy something. However, the only condition is that you need to make the purchase on Amazon Smile, not just Amazon. I would post a link to access Smile but as a new user I can't do that yet, so just google "Amazon Smile". I've never seen any product not a part of this program and doesn't affect prices or product options when buying.
This has been there since several years now and I was surprised as to how so many of my friends didn't know it so I tend to share this around. Makes you feel good (especially with buyer's remorse). Also not sure if this is in all the countries, but Amazon US does have this for sure.