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Well guys,
It's been a long time since I realized my Nexus ONE was draining a lot of battery.
After some testing I figured out one of the most probable causes for that, Autosync.
So I started creating a proof of concept app in order to run autosync at a specified custom time.
On the other hand, I read some users in this forum talk about the possibility to monitor Signal Strength and disable APN if under a given threshold... so I did it (and added Autosync control on low signal too).
It is very useful when you work all day in low signal areas (as me).
Remember.. this is just a proof of concept... may fail a lot or never!
Search for it in the market!
Enjoy
IMPORTANT: Dont kill the app! Exclude it from memory savers (automatic tasks killer). And dont worry about memory or CPU use, it is negligible.
Update 23/08/2010
New Version 0.2. Hope you like it
You have to unistall the previous one (if not it won't install) because I lost my previous certificate . Sorry!!!
Go to:
https://sites.google.com/site/shutupbatterysaver/
Interesting...will be testing
What a great idea!
But does this app use a lot of battery monitoring the signal strength and adjusting for this?
will this work on other phones too or just nexus at this time?
First testing i was able to change settings but it seems to fc on me. Using htc hero cdma on darchdroid.
Jon.StatiK said:
First testing i was able to change settings but it seems to fc on me. Using htc hero cdma on darchdroid.
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It works perfectly on HTC Hero GSM in Spain with the android 2.1.
So I don't know... I don't have an American Hero.
It should work on every android 2.1 and 2.2 phone...
Markdental said:
What a great idea!
But does this app use a lot of battery monitoring the signal strength and adjusting for this?
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Dont worry for CPU(battery) drain.
When using Scheduled Autosync it just uses a few miliseconds of CPU for each Loop.
And for the Signal Strength monitoring, it checks it every 10 minutes and only uses (again) a few miliseconds.
If you have Spare Parts, you can check it yourself!
Wow! I instantly noticed a difference in drain even when monitoring it with adb. I'm impressed. What are you guys settings looking like? I am not sure how I should set it up. If I set the sync on for every 25 minutes, does that mean my phone will ONLY auto sync every 25 minutes? This app is long overdue! Thanks!
on my nexus if I leave the app and click on it again on the drawer, the app resets everything (settings, logs)
THATTON said:
Wow! I instantly noticed a difference in drain even when monitoring it with adb. I'm impressed. What are you guys settings looking like? I am not sure how I should set it up. If I set the sync on for every 25 minutes, does that mean my phone will ONLY auto sync every 25 minutes? This app is long overdue! Thanks!
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Yeah, would love to hear some other users' settings that are working for them.
Like maybe the cutoff for the signal strength level.
also, am I suppose to leave sync off?
congratulations for your job. anyway i have an issue with my nexus one. the app semms to work for about 5sec then all the settings are reseting and apn and sync are switching on even if my signal is below my previous settings. do you have any idea?
thank you.
spyinzedark.
Woo! I'm glad my thread on turning off data when signal is low actually made it into something! I'll try this out soon...
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Yeah, would love to hear some other users' settings that are working for them.
Like maybe the cutoff for the signal strength level.
also, am I suppose to leave sync off?
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I would also like to know if I should be leaving androids built in auto sync off or leave it on? So far, I have been getting great battery with this set to
Sync options:
30min off
2 min on
Signal options:
-104dBm
-104dBm
I can't wait to see where this is going!
I also can't get my settings to save.. just resets after I exit the app.
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I also can't get my settings to save.. just resets after I exit the app.
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Why are you reseting the app?
I mean, the app is meant to be always alive.
You should never kill it and exclude it from any memory saver task killer that you have. Otherwise it cannot work!!
Dont worry about leaving it alive as it only uses a very very small time of CPU.
Sooo... Dont Kill it!!
Just let me know your results
I am currently using:
- Autosync due to Timer 1h - 3m
- APN off if Signal less than -90dBm
It works nice!
Anyone think this would conflict badly with juicedefender?
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Anyone think this would conflict badly with juicedefender?
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I'm not using JuiceDefender anymore because it just seems to mess too many things up. That's just my experience though.
wjax said:
I am currently using:
- Autosync due to Timer 1h - 3m
- APN off if Signal less than -90dBm
It works nice!
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Should we be leaving the regular autosync on or off?
If you dont care about push email and syncing contacts (most of us arent that important) I highly recommend turning off "Always on data" in the wireless settings. This time of day I am normally around 60% battery left (sometimes less) when I have it on... with it off? Im hovering around 92% battery and my phone started at 97% this morning because of the charger bug...
Basically if you turn this off, your phones DATA radio shuts off after 10 minutes of sleep. Gtalk, Gmail, contacts, calendar will not auto-push at this point, nor will any of your other apps (but who cares the phone is off). The work around for GTalk is simple - use trillian or Beejive which utilize Google Push messaging. Basically when you wake your phone, you instantly get all the missed IMs since both chat apps save your IMs on the server until you are available to push to. Android is awesome with reconnecting 3G and it happens in less than 2 seconds.
If you care about battery, check this out. Id rather have battery last 2 days than auto syncing contacts and gmail. Plus you can setup the standard email app to check your email for you since that doesnt require push (will check email when you wake it up).
Anyone else had success with this? I have considered it but haven't pulled the trigger yet.
I tried different sync settings with time, moving between checking for emails every 15-30 minutes as well as hourly, wasn't too much of a difference. I've turned off background data, but I haven't checked to see if turning off all data works. If I can find this setting I'll definitely try it tonight
I'm going to try this in a few minutes...once I get off this call. I hate being put on hold!
Best way to save battery is to turn off 4G (run only 3G). Why would I want my data off all the time. With 3G only I get over 20 hours battery life consistently with data on.
Am I the only one that can't find this setting? I went to settings and wireless & networks but don't see always on data.Never mind I found it in mobile networks.
Click on mobile networks. It's in there.
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I guess I am lucky, I have gotten great battery life even with 4g on. I have noticed if you are in a bad 4g area that toggles to 3g a lot this will kill your battery. I live in a great 4g area and never bounce back and forth.
I've done this on all my android phones, it makes an enormous difference. Android OS keeps an always-on data session, and all the Google services are constantly talking to their servers like gmail, market updater, talk, Google voice, etc. Turn off mobile data with a toggle widget until you actually need data is by far the best way to save huge battery.
Other phones such as the iPhone do not work this way. Instead the data session only initiates when you do some thing that needs it, such as opening the web browser. After closing the browser the data session terminates. Of course push email would keep it on all the time. But stock setup does not.
Android just keeps it on all the time.
What charging bug?
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psufan5 said:
If you dont care about push email and syncing contacts (most of us arent that important) I highly recommend turning off "Always on data" in the wireless settings. This time of day I am normally around 60% battery left (sometimes less) when I have it on... with it off? Im hovering around 92% battery and my phone started at 97% this morning because of the charger bug...
Basically if you turn this off, your phones DATA radio shuts off after 10 minutes of sleep. Gtalk, Gmail, contacts, calendar will not auto-push at this point, nor will any of your other apps (but who cares the phone is off). The work around for GTalk is simple - use trillian or Beejive which utilize Google Push messaging. Basically when you wake your phone, you instantly get all the missed IMs since both chat apps save your IMs on the server until you are available to push to. Android is awesome with reconnecting 3G and it happens in less than 2 seconds.
If you care about battery, check this out. Id rather have battery last 2 days than auto syncing contacts and gmail. Plus you can setup the standard email app to check your email for you since that doesnt require push (will check email when you wake it up).
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Will have to try this out. One thing Im missing on this phone that I had on my Droidx is power profiles. I made a profile that turned off data after 30 mins. This saved a crazy amount of battery. I cant bring my phone into work, so I leave it in the car.
On the Droid X, if I let it keep the data session always on, Id be down to like 50 percent battery with the phone sitting doing nothing all day (about 9 hrs). By having the data turn off after 30 mins, the phone would be at 80 percent at the end of the day.
I replaced my texting plan with Google Voice. This isn't an option for me.
I usually just leave it on 1X if its just sitting in my pocket and I don't need speed.
Are people seeing good battery gains with all the bloatware removed? I have root but I haven't gotten around to removing the Verizon bloat
edit: Now that I think about it, 1X could be a bigger power drain than EVDO. Hmm
I have to agree no need to turn of data. Use anycut to create a toggle widget and just put it on 3g. I use my phone from moderate to heavy and am still at over 60% on battery that's better than my Droid x. Let's face it 4G eats up battery but seriously when do you need besides when downloading things or for when netflix comes out or tethering. But for just normal use I don't even notice a difference when it comes to browsing.
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this is the most retarded thread. why the f would i go and buy a smart phone that is meant for push email and fast 4g internet and disable all that ****. either live with the **** battery life, live with a thicker phone and get a extended battery or return the **** for a dumb phone.
I am not in a 4g area but with my screen brightness turned down and the HTC weather sync turned off I am easily getting a day. I noticed when I look to see what is taking the juice its mainly the screen.
ddarvish said:
this is the most retarded thread. why the f would i go and buy a smart phone that is meant for push email and fast 4g internet and disable all that ****. either live with the **** battery life, live with a thicker phone and get a extended battery or return the **** for a dumb phone.
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You turn it off for times when you know you need to save power. If I'm out drinking at the bar for 4 hours, kill data and my phone is still at 98% after 4 hours. If I turn it off during a work day I still have 85% after 9 hours. The saving is enormous.
Since its only a 1 click toggle on your home screen, it makes no sense to avoid using this advantage.
Of course 99% of the time I leave data on. But when I know I'll need it, I use it.
ddarvish said:
this is the most retarded thread. why the f would i go and buy a smart phone that is meant for push email and fast 4g internet and disable all that ****. either live with the **** battery life, live with a thicker phone and get a extended battery or return the **** for a dumb phone.
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Great post, I can see you will be a helpful addition to this community...
Back on topic, guys this phone has been out for what? 2 weeks? Relax, trust me, kernel development was great on the INC, I could easily get a day & a half out of my phone on the stock 1300mah battery. Once we get the kernel source for the TB, and the devs start to work on that, you will notice battery life improve significantly. Until then 4g is a big reason, so keep that off if you don't need it. Syncing always has been, either make it manual sync, or keep it at long updating intervals.
Great post, I can see you will be a helpful addition to this community...
ROTFLMAO!
Definitely gonna try this out.
Hi which activity in anycut do i have to use for this to conserve battery?
I just got my Nexus S on April 12th, don't have many applications installed. My battery only lasts about 10 to 12 hours and I haven't been able to figure out why. I've noticed other people have much longer battery life than this. I have 3G and mobile data disabled and use only WiFi and that too only when I'm home. From the "About > Battery use" place I discovered that Display uses around 50%. I had my brightness settings set to auto always. Today I fully charged it and after an hour or so it was on 83%! I didn't even touch it. It sucks to have an awesome phone and to not be able to use its features because of fast battery drain! please help.
Check email sync ...
Check always sync ...
Check weather sync ...
Check facebook sync ...
Check all syncs
Mine can last up to 2 days
But I don't sync like crazy ...
ifreaker said:
I just got my Nexus S on April 12th, don't have many applications installed. My battery only lasts about 10 to 12 hours and I haven't been able to figure out why. I've noticed other people have much longer battery life than this. I have 3G and mobile data disabled and use only WiFi and that too only when I'm home. From the "About > Battery use" place I discovered that Display uses around 50%. I had my brightness settings set to auto always. Today I fully charged it and after an hour or so it was on 83%! I didn't even touch it. It sucks to have an awesome phone and to not be able to use its features because of fast battery drain! please help.
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my brightness is on 0% are you using any white wallpapers?
set everything to black if you can.
what about apps that auto sync? set the interval for sync to be longer
Whatever you're doing, you're doing it wrong.
Provide as much detail about apps and running services and someone can help you.
The battery will last longer if you don't use it...just saying.
j0hnZ said:
The battery will last longer if you don't use it...just saying.
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then that would defeat the purpose of the phone... just saying encore?
zephiK said:
then that would defeat the purpose of the phone... just saying encore?
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I thought you would be happy I'm spreading your message, or your quote without calling anyone's phone a whore.
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I thought you would be happy I'm spreading your message, or your quote without calling anyone's phone a whore.
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the quote had nothing to do about not using the phone. its just saying treat it well and it'll treat u back well but apparently that message is too hard to get to your head.
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the quote had nothing to do about not using the phone. its just saying treat it well and it'll treat u back well but apparently that message is too hard to get to your head.
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It is about using your phone, clearly you can't get that through your head. I'm not going to keep defending arguments against someone who can't understand simple concepts. Consider yourself blocked, so it doesn't happen again.
Enough hi-jacking. Let the OP feel comfortable enough to post info that will lead to help.
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j0hnZ said:
It is about using your phone, clearly you can't get that through your head. I'm not going to keep defending arguments against someone who can't understand simple concepts. Consider yourself blocked, so it doesn't happen again.
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Cool, you're just doing me a favor because I'm getting sick of you mocking me in every way possible.
Agreed with ScooterG. Pretty much johnz had a thing against me because of a previous battery thread yesterday.
How do I change sync settings? I thought all syncing was disabled when I turn it off on the widget (the one with wifi, bluetooth, etc.). I have sync turned off from there always and enable it when I'm in a WiFi range.
@zephiK I have a dark wallpaper, I'll try setting brightness to zero.
I unplugged around 8am and now its 12am here and the phone is down to 86%. only 4 hours later. And I didnt use much during those 4 hours. No texts, no calls and just 1 email after I turned sync thing on and used WiFi to browse this thread. Thats all I did. Battery use shows Display using 69%! This is not normal right?
Here are the apps I have installed.:
Adobe AIR
Adobe Flash player 10.2
Advanced Task Killer Free
Angry Birds Rio
AppBrain App Market
Barcode Scanner
BattStatt
Camera360
CamScanner
Cover Art Downloader
DanteInferno
Dropbox
ES File Explorer
Facebook
FatBooth
FlashLight
Foursquare
Fruit Slice
Goggles
gReader
HDR Camera
Live Holdem pro
Lyrics App
Mango
Market
mig33
Music (this is the leaked 3.0 version)
NinJump
Opera Mini
photoshop Express
pulse
Quick Settings
Raging Thunder 2 Lite
Sketchbook Express
Simple Calendar Widget
SMS pop
Songbird
Twitter
Wapedia
WebSharing Lite
Wifi Manager
And here are the running services.:
Settings
Twitter
BattStatt
Camera360
Songbird
Simple Calendar Widget
Google Services
Music
Maps
Android Keyboard
I read somewhere about battery training or something?
ifreaker said:
How do I change sync settings? I thought all syncing was disabled when I turn it off on the widget (the one with wifi, bluetooth, etc.). I have sync turned off from there always and enable it when I'm in a WiFi range.
@zephiK I have a dark wallpaper, I'll try setting brightness to zero.
I unplugged around 8am and now its 12am here and the phone is down to 86%. only 4 hours later. And I didnt use much during those 4 hours. No texts, no calls and just 1 email after I turned sync thing on and used WiFi to browse this thread. Thats all I did. Battery use shows Display using 69%! This is not normal right?
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I read somewhere about battery training or something?
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Well 86% after 4 hours is a great battery life! 96-86=10% It gives you (4/0.1) a theoretical battery life of 40 hours !!!
On the battery manager click on the graph to see what causes your battery life to decrease very fast: GPS, Wifi, Awake or Screen on.
I also noticed the battery meter app used quite a bit of energy you should remove it, remove also the task killer it may drain you battery as well.
I'm trying out the suggestions in this thread right now. They seem reasonable. It might be useful for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=937080
josibarns said:
Well 86% after 4 hours is a great battery life! 96-86=10% It gives you (4/0.1) a theoretical battery life of 40 hours !!!
On the battery manager click on the graph to see what causes your battery life to decrease very fast: GPS, Wifi, Awake or Screen on.
I also noticed the battery meter app used quite a bit of energy you should remove it, remove also the task killer it may drain you battery as well.
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Yes! Thats great battery life! You see, after I made my first post I read somewhere that you should drain the battery completely and then do a full charge. So I kept on playing with it until the phone shut down and then plugged it in before I went to bed. I made the second post after I woke up and didn't realize that at that time the battery life has increased. I havent charged since that post and been using it, the battery is now at exactly 30%. Been running for 17 hours and 45 minutes.
I guess my problem is solved
As soon as I got my phone and set it up, I disabled all the AT&T bloatware in addition to google+, twitter, ypmobile, etc. Phone was always running great, but I kept wondering why I could never get over 3 hours screen time.
Fast forward to this morning....I re-enabled every app that I have disabled, and now I'm sitting at 3 hours screen time with 35% battery left. Didn't change anything else.
So I'm not sure why disabling apps caused a huge battery drain (I thought it would help with battery), but it did for me.
Might be something to check out if you are having battery issues.
Weird. Mine last longer. Check your auto-sync settings?
johnl199 said:
As soon as I got my phone and set it up, I disabled all the AT&T bloatware in addition to google+, twitter, ypmobile, etc. Phone was always running great, but I kept wondering why I could never get over 3 hours screen time.
Fast forward to this morning....I re-enabled every app that I have disabled, and now I'm sitting at 3 hours screen time with 35% battery left. Didn't change anything else.
So I'm not sure why disabling apps caused a huge battery drain (I thought it would help with battery), but it did for me.
Might be something to check out if you are having battery issues.
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You said as soon as you got your phone set up you did this. That brings a few things to mind:
1) It sounds like it was your first or second battery charge. You need to fully charge/discharge a couple times before the battery's properly configured and you'll experience the device's full battery life.
2) Being that you just set it up, auto-sync would be working overtime for the first-time sync. You know, pulling in all your contacts, emails, calendar events, facebook everything, and so on, causing a higher-than-normal strain on the radio (either wifi or LTE, doesn't matter) and CPU.
Now that your battery's calibrated and your first-time sync is done with, give'er a full charge, disable the same apps again, and let us know how that goes.
truciet said:
Weird. Mine last longer. Check your auto-sync settings?
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I've checked everything. Everything was OK, so I decided to re-enable the apps to see what would happen and now my battery life is where it should be.
Maybe I disabled an app that needs to be enabled or something. I don't feel like figuring out which one it is, so I just enabled all of them.
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I've checked everything. Everything was OK, so I decided to re-enable the apps to see what would happen and now my battery life is where it should be.
Maybe I disabled an app that needs to be enabled or something. I don't feel like figuring out which one it is, so I just enabled all of them.
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Do you work for ATT and just want us to turn the Bloat back on
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You said as soon as you got your phone set up you did this. That brings a few things to mind:
1) It sounds like it was your first or second battery charge. You need to fully charge/discharge a couple times before the battery's properly configured and you'll experience the device's full battery life.
2) Being that you just set it up, auto-sync would be working overtime for the first-time sync. You know, pulling in all your contacts, emails, calendar events, facebook everything, and so on, causing a higher-than-normal strain on the radio (either wifi or LTE, doesn't matter) and CPU.
Now that your battery's calibrated and your first-time sync is done with, give'er a full charge, disable the same apps again, and let us know how that goes.
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I mean when I first set up the phone I disabled the apps. I've been using the phone for a few days with the apps disabled, so I just re-enabled them this morning.
This seems counter-intuitive. Until a few more people report similar situations I'm reluctant to believe that it was one of the apps being enabled/disabled that caused and fixed the problem.
I personally disabled all the bloatware that was possible and I've had phenomenal battery life. Sounds like your phone just needs to go through those first couple charge cycles to get the battery going properly.
yeah mate, have to agree with the guys above. i disabled all the ATT crapware and haven't had any problems. sounds like you've got a wake lock somewhere. download CPU Spy from the market and search the forums for Better Battery Stats to find the culprit
I've got quite a few things disabled and I hit 34 hours on a single charge earlier today. Sadly I had to reboot so the uptime chart only shows 24 hours.
After seeing this I've re-enabled all of the HTC bloatware (facebook, twitter, etc.). I have a feeling that my crappy battery life may have something to do with HTC's Sense software somehow trying to interact (with their widgets and whatnot) with my disabled apps. If that doesn't change anything, I'll try to enable AT&T's bloatware too and see if that makes a difference.
ROM: CM9 latest nightly
Kernel: CM9's own
Radio: T-Mobile's UVLC8 (yes, I'm on T-Mobile)
Brightness: Auto (shown in screenshot)
Synced Gmail accounts: 3
Accounts in Email app: 0
My battery drops 20% in 42 minutes, which means it will be depleted in 3.5 hours. And this is mostly due to the screen. Why? I use the phone moderately and ALWAYS press the Power button to turn the screen off whenever I'm done replying to a text or doing anything with it.
Any suggestions?
Well judging from your notification bar you have bluetooth, WiFi, fb sync all on and you aren't even connected to a WiFi network or Bluetooth device. Try turning those off when they are not needed. Also go into the Facebook app and go to settings and change you sync time to a little longer than an hour (if you can stand it). Try that for now and see what happens
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Some info on screen on time would help, 3.5hrs screen on time is barely below average. I would expect that if FB is always syncing and blue tooth.
Also I would verify you don't have a wake lock going from charging. You can check with CPU Spy, better battery stats, as well as some others. Cpu spy is likely the easiest way.
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Every once in a while I'll get a flash that does this, the battery just seems to be losing its will to live. I don't understand it myself but I restore my last nandroid backup, and then flash again. After that all goes back to normal.
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Well judging from your notification bar you have bluetooth, WiFi, fb sync all on and you aren't even connected to a WiFi network or Bluetooth device. Try turning those off when they are not needed. Also go into the Facebook app and go to settings and change you sync time to a little longer than an hour (if you can stand it). Try that for now and see what happens
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I always keep WiFi and Bluetooth on. I thought neither one of those really used a lot of power unless actually connected. I use BT only in my car and WiFi only at home (evenings). My FB refresh interval is set to 1h. I hardly think this is draining my battery.
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Some info on screen on time would help, 3.5hrs screen on time is barely below average. I would expect that if FB is always syncing and blue tooth.
Also I would verify you don't have a wake lock going from charging. You can check with CPU Spy, better battery stats, as well as some others. Cpu spy is likely the easiest way.
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Better Battery Stats wasn't free, so I installed CPU Spy and Battery Spy, I am letting the phone charge to 100% and then, I'm going to unplug it and report after about 30 minutes.
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Every once in a while I'll get a flash that does this, the battery just seems to be losing its will to live. I don't understand it myself but I restore my last nandroid backup, and then flash again. After that all goes back to normal.
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I will flash last night's CM9 nightly and see if I notice a difference.
Thank you all!
Razor1973 said:
I always keep WiFi and Bluetooth on. I thought neither one of those really used a lot of power unless actually connected. I use BT only in my car and WiFi only at home (evenings). My FB refresh interval is set to 1h. I hardly think this is draining my battery.
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Might want to think of picking up some NFC tags and setting profiles so stuff like Bluetooth will automatically turn on when in your car, and off when you leave. And BT and Wifi do drain power when not connected because they are searching for connections.
Better Battery Stats wasn't free, so I installed CPU Spy and Battery Spy, I am letting the phone charge to 100% and then, I'm going to unplug it and report after about 30 minutes.
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It's free to XDA members: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
dakpluto said:
Might want to think of picking up some NFC tags and setting profiles so stuff like Bluetooth will automatically turn on when in your car, and off when you leave. And BT and Wifi do drain power when not connected because they are searching for connections.
It's free to XDA members: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
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But wouldn't WiFi and Bluetooth show in the battery usage screen with a high percentage? They would show by themselves or under radio and those aren't high at all. It's all on the screen. That's the problem, it seems. And what I explained earlier is that I don't use it much. I will get a text message, I'll reply and automatically turn the screen off before I set the phone down. I never forget this. I'm actually anal about it. LOL
I just installed Better Battery Stats (thanks for the tip!!!) and will test with all 3 apps as soon as I unplug my phone to go to lunch. I haven't been able to do this yet. Crazy day here at work.
Thanks again.
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But wouldn't WiFi and Bluetooth show in the battery usage screen with a high percentage? They would show by themselves or under radio and those aren't high at all. It's all on the screen. That's the problem, it seems. And what I explained earlier is that I don't use it much. I will get a text message, I'll reply and automatically turn the screen off before I set the phone down. I never forget this. I'm actually anal about it. LOL
I just installed Better Battery Stats (thanks for the tip!!!) and will test with all 3 apps as soon as I unplug my phone to go to lunch. I haven't been able to do this yet. Crazy day here at work.
Thanks again.
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that's covered under android system I believe. Most important, it causes wake locks that keeps your phone from deep sleeping.
Flash Instigators Kernel with Smartass/Badass scripts (not a joke....)
It will help you tremendously. You must reflash with every nightly update you do.
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OK, so 4.5 hours and battery discharged 38%. I guess that's not terrible, but my screen was only on for 26 minutes of that time and the phone is reporting 55% of the battery drain came from screen use. I feel battery life could be a lot better just because of this.
What else do these screenshots tell you guys?
I noticed KIK Messenger and MailDroid there. They both sync a lot. I do have a couple of IMAP accounts on MailDroid that I forgot to mention in my OP. But, still, I go back to the fact that most of the drain comes from the screen. These aren't related.
onealvideo said:
Flash Instigators Kernel with Smartass/Badass scripts (not a joke....)
It will help you tremendously. You must reflash with every nightly update you do.
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Oh, true!!! I flashed InstigatorX's kernel when I first started flashing the nightlies, but, since I flash them every 2-3 days, I completely forgot to reflash the kernel. OK, it's more like I didn't know it was getting overwritten and I had to reflash it. Thanks for the reminder!!! By the way, do you go with stable (4.0b) or the latest experimental (5.3.2)? Also, do you just flash the kernel? What are those scripts and what do you do with them? I did not understand his instructions. Maybe I should be asking there, but since I already have you here... LOL
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OK, so 4.5 hours and battery discharged 38%. I guess that's not terrible, but my screen was only on for 26 minutes of that time and the phone is reporting 55% of the battery drain came from screen use. I feel battery life could be a lot better just because of this.
What else do these screenshots tell you guys?
I noticed KIK Messenger and MailDroid there. They both sync a lot. I do have a couple of IMAP accounts on MailDroid that I forgot to mention in my OP. But, still, I go back to the fact that most of the drain comes from the screen. These aren't related.
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For one, turn your screen brightness down. I use auto-brightness and never have a problem seeing it, and my battery drain is ok that way.
Two, you've got the AudioOut_1 wakelock. Turn off system sounds in the settings menu (keytones, touch sound, screen lock sound, vibrate on screen tap) and that will take care of that.
Any type of instant messenger service (Skype is well-known for doing this) will wakelock your phone while it searches for IMs. No way around it other than an uninstall. You can't control IMAP pushing, but you can control folder polling, which eats up a lot of battery. I'd set your MailDroid accounts to not poll folders automatically more than once a day.
And definitely turn Bluetooth off when you're not actively connected to something. You might as well be using your phone as a flashlight with how much power BT burns through.
I am currently on RC2. I went to the 21/22 nightly but was not liking how it was behaving so I went with the RC for now.
In INSTIGATORS forum you will see in the links to the kernel one that says <-------- works with RC2.
I used that one and I am happy. Sure you could do the newer ones but I am happy where I am at currently.
Just boot into recovery and install from zip.
(Assume u download the zip on your phone....)
Its easy as pie!
You can play with the settings if you want but the default settings work pretty freaking good!
I would for sure recommend going to that forum as Instigator himself can answer ALL your questions in depth.... I am merely a messenger and user of his kernel.... wish they would just merge it into the cm9....
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T.J. Bender said:
For one, turn your screen brightness down. I use auto-brightness and never have a problem seeing it, and my battery drain is ok that way.
Two, you've got the AudioOut_1 wakelock. Turn off system sounds in the settings menu (keytones, touch sound, screen lock sound, vibrate on screen tap) and that will take care of that.
Any type of instant messenger service (Skype is well-known for doing this) will wakelock your phone while it searches for IMs. No way around it other than an uninstall. You can't control IMAP pushing, but you can control folder polling, which eats up a lot of battery. I'd set your MailDroid accounts to not poll folders automatically more than once a day.
And definitely turn Bluetooth off when you're not actively connected to something. You might as well be using your phone as a flashlight with how much power BT burns through.
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Screen brightness: I use auto as well. It's in one of my first screenshots in this thread.
AudioOut_1 wakelock: Done. Thanks. I'm going to miss the touch and screen lock sounds. LOL I left dial pad touch tones and volume rocker music controls in that same secton checked, by the way.
MailDroid: I went through all the settings, both general and for the e-mail accounts and couldn't find a place to specify folder polling interval. Do you have it installed? If so, could you tell me exactly where to find this please?
Bluetooth: I'll try my best to turn it on only when I needed. I could also follow dakpluto's suggestion with the NFC tags. But then, I'd have to leave NFC on. Doesn't that drain battery too?
And you see, although all of these will help, don't you agree based on my screenshots that the biggest offender here is the screen and this is the area I should really be looking at?
onealvideo said:
I am currently on RC2. I went to the 21/22 nightly but was not liking how it was behaving so I went with the RC for now.
In INSTIGATORS forum you will see in the links to the kernel one that says <-------- works with RC2.
I used that one and I am happy. Sure you could do the newer ones but I am happy where I am at currently.
Just boot into recovery and install from zip.
(Assume u download the zip on your phone....)
Its easy as pie!
You can play with the settings if you want but the default settings work pretty freaking good!
I would for sure recommend going to that forum as Instigator himself can answer ALL your questions in depth.... I am merely a messenger and user of his kernel.... wish they would just merge it into the cm9....
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Here's what I just did:
1) Installed latest (7/23) CM9 nightly.
2) Installed InstigatorX's 5.3.2 experimental kernel using CWM.
3) Installed InstigatorX's BadAss script using CWM on top of the kernel (I guess that's how you do it).
I will see how my battery behaves. It'll be difficult to know which of the many things I did is the one that yielded the biggest improvement, however. Oh well.
Thank you all!
I'm testing aokp w/ stock kernel ondemand 192/1512 and it actually is working decently for me so far. Streamed like 1 1/2 hr of video last night and 2hr of Pandora today at the gym. :good:
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You see? Why can't I get HALF of that?
InstigatorX CM9/AOKP Kernel - Which One?
Razor1973 said:
... do you go with stable (4.0b) or the latest experimental (5.3.2)? Also, do you just flash the kernel? What are those scripts and what do you do with them? I did not understand his instructions. Maybe I should be asking there, but since I already have you here... LOL
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That's what I'm trying to figure out:
Which version (e.g. 4.0b or latest)?
Which script(s)?
Anything else?
(There's tons of information in these forums, but finding it buried deep in threads is like looking for a needle in a haystack.)
From the looks of that screen shot. The phone is barely being used, see how the blue isn't solid for most of the running time?
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kr3w1337 said:
From the looks of that screen shot. The phone is barely being used, see how the blue isn't solid for most of the running time?
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Yep I have power saving stuff such as turn off wifi when idle, I dont have GPS on 24/7 and I dont have wakelocks, I also set mine to use 3G/4G rather than LTE. If it was a solid blue that means something will be constantly on draining the battery.
I'm testing aokp w/ stock kernel ondemand 192/1512 and it actually is working decently for me so far. Streamed like 1 1/2 hr of video last night and 2hr of Pandora today at the gym.
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Those are the two lines from the front and the end. The blanks are deep sleep over night. Remember I said "testing aokp" "stock kernel"
If you want my "light" use then here it is lol.
Trinition said:
That's what I'm trying to figure out:
Which version (e.g. 4.0b or latest)?
Which script(s)?
Anything else?
(There's tons of information in these forums, but finding it buried deep in threads is like looking for a needle in a haystack.)
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For performance I prefer smartassv2 for power saving I would go for badass governor. With badass it doesn't jump clocks to max but goes by phases thus not aggressive and doesn't eat a lot. Test them out read the change log to see if changes pertain to you :good:
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