New OS possible? - General Topics

Hello everybody,
First of all, this is my very first post on this amazing forum. I read the rules and I hope this is the right place...
Currently I am researching possibilities for a large scale mobile device project. I can’t really go into the specific details, but I am sure most of you would be interested. You might even want to follow me on Twitter (OMdeGraaf) for a couple of months and find yourself pretty amazed by the stuff I have to share.
The problem is that I don’t know it all. I can’t study every detail by myself and therefore I am interested in what some dedicated people here can tell me about well… let’s say writing an OS for a phone and I am not talking about a customized Android OS but a completely new one.
Thanks in advance, and I am looking forward to get to know some people on XDA and share some thoughts
Matt

So if i get this right, you're researching the options on how to develop a new OS, and you can't tell anything yet, and you don't have the know-how? Also, It seems that you're twitter account is just new. Taking that on account, with your first tweet, i actually don't trust this story. you handle new thing such as twitter like a n00b.
Also, last but not least, You have a distinct Dutch Name, but you live in the USA? Not saying that's wrong, but it's another thing that just doesn't feel right...
And there is one further thing:
Welcome to XDA-Forums!

OMdeGraaf said:
Hello everybody,
First of all, this is my very first post on this amazing forum. I read the rules and I hope this is the right place...
Currently I am researching possibilities for a large scale mobile device project. I can’t really go into the specific details, but I am sure most of you would be interested. You might even want to follow me on Twitter (OMdeGraaf) for a couple of months and find yourself pretty amazed by the stuff I have to share.
The problem is that I don’t know it all. I can’t study every detail by myself and therefore I am interested in what some dedicated people here can tell me about well… let’s say writing an OS for a phone and I am not talking about a customized Android OS but a completely new one.
Thanks in advance, and I am looking forward to get to know some people on XDA and share some thoughts
Matt
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Hi,
Welcome to Xda,
i think to make a new os you might need to make a new phone to fit its requirements unless it's like android or windows mobile or a mix
also it would take a lot of hard of hard work and time (few years maybe to create complete new os)
All the best
P.S: if you do make a new os we will all be very pleased and happy to test!

Sounds like another vaporware-to-collect-donations project.
KUDOS!

PoisonWolf said:
Sounds like another vaporware-to-collect-donations project.
KUDOS!
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or not...
don't be mean to him he's just joined!

Zac.Santer said:
or not...
don't be mean to him he's just joined!
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Sorry, once you've been on the internetz long enough, you turn cynical, sour, and into an old fart.
He has nothing to show, has been extremely vague, clearly just joined XDA just to tell us this, and his twitter account is new.....but go ahead. Feel free to believe that he has "something amazing to show" and that he's really a good person deep down inside.
I didn't put my avatar as Agent Smith for nothing.
Cheers.

PoisonWolf said:
Sorry, once you've been on the internetz long enough, you turn cynical, sour, and into an old fart.
He has nothing to show, has been extremely vague, clearly just joined XDA just to tell us this, and his twitter account is new.....but go ahead. Feel free to believe that he has "something amazing to show" and that he's really a good person deep down inside.
I didn't put my avatar as Agent Smith for nothing.
Cheers.
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I had the same feeling. And just staying on-topic about being long on the internetz; Don't you mean interwebz?

Thanks for the warm welcome. And I understand that people question my goal here. But I can assure you that I am not looking for funding or donations. But there are a couple of things I can say;
First of all I am Dutch (liked the match against Denmark today! twee-nul) and yes, I am new to Twitter
Second is that I can't really go into details is because the project is still in the very early stage. The company backing me up (ie financing) isn't ready yet to go public with it. But I can start doing some research and I believe XDA is the right place.
Zac.Santer mentioned that a new phone is probably required. That is good to know, consider how good people are at hacking phones these days I wasn't sure about that. Tomorrow morning there is another meeting and I think a good subject would be 'Android or a huge investment'

would this be a linux kernel based os or a whole new kernel/os?

Lawl. The reason why everything is so hushed is simply because there is nothing there.
You're full of it OP.
I strongly advise any dev of XDA to be extremely careful with OP. He's definitely not here to build a new OS, I'll tell you that right now.
OMdeGraaf said:
Thanks for the warm welcome. And I understand that people question my goal here. But I can assure you that I am not looking for funding or donations. But there are a couple of things I can say;
First of all I am Dutch (liked the match against Denmark today! twee-nul) and yes, I am new to Twitter
Second is that I can't really go into details is because the project is still in the very early stage. The company backing me up (ie financing) isn't ready yet to go public with it. But I can start doing some research and I believe XDA is the right place.
Zac.Santer mentioned that a new phone is probably required. That is good to know, consider how good people are at hacking phones these days I wasn't sure about that. Tomorrow morning there is another meeting and I think a good subject would be 'Android or a huge investment'
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@OMdeGraaf:zoo dus je bent nederlands hé? de 1e goal was een beetje jammer van de denen.
Is the platform you're hoping to build for Smartphones or for cheap phones for the masses like the LG Pop?

Reversedhex said:
would this be a linux kernel based os or a whole new kernel/os?
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Well, the Unix like kernels have a good track record and would save time. And since Linux has a great trackrecord, including mobile devices, I guess that would be a good option. C++ is a great language, though I prefer JAVA.
What would you advice?
PoisonWolf; feel free to keep an eye on me and warn the moderators if I am going against the terms of use. What would you suggest to post if you were the one trying to get information?

wouternet said:
@OMdeGraaf:zoo dus je bent nederlands hé? de 1e goal was een beetje jammer van de denen.
Is the platform you're hoping to build for Smartphones or for cheap phones for the masses like the LG Pop?
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Kopbal op de rug... hoe krijgen ze het voor elkaar! <- just something about the match today
Well, the final goal is a Smartphone that is cheap and for the masses. The problem these days with Smartphones is that you pay for the research development. The material itself may be worth $40 So what we are trying to achieve is to reduce costs on every part down the line of development. How we are going to achieve this is... complicated

i see the problem. I can help out
Next is dutch, much easier to tell so(we won't be criticizing you guys in dutch so you don't understand, XDA is great)
Ik ben natuurlijk zelf een 4Vwoér en ben echt gek op smartphones en gadgets. Mat natuurlijk is het veel te duur om een Nieuwe HD2 of HTC Desire te kopen met een abbonement à 30 euro per maand. Wat de meeste mensen/jongeren willen is een snelle telefoon, moet heeeel makkelijk zijn om mee te SMS'en, 3,5mm jack voor hoofdtelefoon, en zowieso WiFi! ik hebnu een goedkoop abbonementje van 7euro per maand en heb speciaal een telefoon gekocht met Wifi zodat ik geen dataplan hoef te nemen(KS20).verder een beetje camera, en probeer alsjeblieft niet van die neppe dingen als verwisselbare covers bij de Samsung Corby.

PoisonWolf said:
I strongly advise any dev of XDA to be extremely careful with OP. He's definitely not here to build a new OS, I'll tell you that right now.
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you dont have to believe him but you could be a bit more open. (mark my words )
he said he has a external funding source so what could go wrong, besides getting some dumb people excited, if he is just making it all up
i wouldnt be surprised if he is
@wouternet
couldn't you say that in english :O

OMdeGraaf said:
Well, the Unix like kernels have a good track record and would save time. And since Linux has a great trackrecord, including mobile devices, I guess that would be a good option. C++ is a great language, though I prefer JAVA.
What would you advice?
PoisonWolf; feel free to keep an eye on me and warn the moderators if I am going against the terms of use. What would you suggest to post if you were the one trying to get information?
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you know that if you decide do make your os in an object orientated language its needs a monolithic kernel?!?

A good idea that would be actually doable without massive R&D funding and teams of developers would be to create an OS based off of the Debian ARM kernel. No need to reinvent the wheel.
I'm thinking of some kind of Maemo/MeeGo type familiar linux functionality with a slicker, more polished UI.

OMdeGraaf said:
Kopbal op de rug... hoe krijgen ze het voor elkaar! <- just something about the match today
Well, the final goal is a Smartphone that is cheap and for the masses. The problem these days with Smartphones is that you pay for the research development. The material itself may be worth $40 So what we are trying to achieve is to reduce costs on every part down the line of development. How we are going to achieve this is... complicated
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This is already being achieved... Qualcomm's Brew OS is set to be just what you said. An affordable smartphone, cheap for the masses. The HTC Smart for example (Only Brew phone I know of) is very affordable because the hardware is not as advanced. Qualcomm is trying to make brew the go-to OS for affordablilty for smartphones. Here's the home page: http://brew.qualcomm.com/brew/en/

PoisonWolf said:
Lawl. The reason why everything is so hushed is simply because there is nothing there.
You're full of it OP.
I strongly advise any dev of XDA to be extremely careful with OP. He's definitely not here to build a new OS, I'll tell you that right now.
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What if hes the real deal then all the princes in nigira will give me millions of dollars.

trinest said:
What if hes the real deal then all the princes in nigira will give me millions of dollars.
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LAWL. You sir, are good.

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Is there a fresh news about Raptorz WM5.0 saga?

Is there a fresh news about Raptorz WM5.0 saga?
I think for this time this mythical ROM can be transfered by speed 1byte/hour. So...
(found in internet space)
Oooh, fellas.
I have a WM5.0 on my Magician (friend of my friend brother, that working in HTC flash it), but i live in a small village. There is no internet, so i can't upload it. There is no post office like a DHL/FedEx/UPS... And i want to tell you more - there is no electricity and cellular providers... But i REALY HAVE IT!
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For god's sake, get over it. If it comes, great. If not, tough. What was the point to your post? Why would you bother writing this when the main thread was locked and there's another one still going?
MODS!! DELETE ME!!!! PLEASE!! (I mean this topic, not me totally!)
I just want to know - is there news.
It has been bad joke or a new hope? It's all.
I'm WAITING for WM5.0 ROM like you.
Great quote.
For all of the stfu ppl, this is a forum, remember?!
Let people talk!
If AlexXF thought it would be a relevant question to him to ask for the rom, he can ask it. If you don't like the topic, don't reply to it.
It would die if you don't.
I think one can ask whatever question he likes as long as he/she does not offend anyone else on this board.
And after 2 weeks, if asked politely, I don't see anything wrong in asking for an update. People ask so many stupid questions on other stuff, what's the surprise if someone asks for progress on such a HUGE thing?
And jimmy-bish, couldn't you just ignore such threads if they don't interest you? I found AlexF's post more interesting than yours!
Should I just ask the mods to delete your threads if they are of no use or interest to me then? Visit other forums and you'll find these type of discussions on daily basis? Does this have that, will we have this upgrade, etc? There's no "police" shutting their mouths up.
Everybody on this forum is ASKING for the ROM.
None is OFFERING the Rom.
So, if you don't have anything to OFFER than please stop ASKING.
This will be showing you have at least a bit of respect for the people that are working trying to do something to satisfy YOUR laziness not to provide this ROM to the community.
Hope is dying but then, hope of course, is nothing to do with whether Raptor has the ROM or not. But all the same, after arranging a pickup and such like, it appears Buzz has not been getting any further contact from Raptor (see Buzz' website: buzzdev). So either the project is dead in the water (i.e. it never really existed), or Raptor has been unable to get in touch due to whatever reason. It could be one or the other.
unlockMe said:
Everybody on this forum is ASKING for the ROM.
None is OFFERING the Rom.
So, if you don't have anything to OFFER than please stop ASKING.
This will be showing you have at least a bit of respect for the people that are working trying to do something to satisfy YOUR laziness not to provide this ROM to the community.
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SOMEONE OFFERED THE ROM AND PEOPLE ARE JUST ASKING IF THIS OFFER CAN STILL BE HONOURED.
TALKING ABOUT LAZINESS, IF I WAS LAZY I WOULDN'T BE POSTING LENGHTY POSTS TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE WITH VARIOUS PROBLEMS THAT I THINK I COULD HELP THEM WITH.
AND WHENEVER I DO SOMETHING FOR MYSELF (EG ANIMATED CONTACT PICS, THEMES, ETC.) I'M THE FIRST ONE TO COME AND POST THEM HERE. SO IF YOU WERE REFERRING TO ME WHEN YOU USED THE WORD LAZY, KINDLY APOLOGISE.
AND TO THE PEOPLE WHO JUST VISIT THE FORUM TO SEE IF THEY CAN GET SOMETHING BUT NEVER GIVE ANYTHING ... GO FIND YOURSELVES A WINDOWS MOBILE DOWNGRADE AND LEAVE US ALONE!!!!
(Aplogies to everyone else who had to read my crap but comments like this infuriate me!)
I'm a bit more calm now ...
@unlockme, aren't you the same guy who called Gora (the guy who gave Himlaya users the WM5 ROM) a lamer?
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Minotavrs you're right, this is just bull****.
If you lookup the first screenshot, it reports 24.38MB of memory, hence obviously a smartphone.
Then, this guy shows picture of an himalaya device (by the way the picture on the wooden desktop is taken from a web site that has a review on XDA II). On these picture, it reports 128MB (normal size for a XDA II).
on my XDA II when I go the Settings / System / About it reports 125.86MB.
Don't loose your time giving credit to this lamer.
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If you owned a Himalya, I bet you made good use of the ROM!
we all know originally there is no WM2005 ROM for Magician. so i hate to know that and i hate peoples who are saying they have WM2005 ROM for Magician and run away with no ****ing any news about their activities...
after wasting long time to wait for it... i will not Download it or Flash my Magician even if it out after my post coz there will come soon alot of cool Phones with WM2005 and more better than Magician.... so guys save your time and go sell your Magicians to get newer one... NOT BUGGY one like XDA II WM2005
this is the life don't loose it
NightmarE said:
we all know originally there is no WM2005 ROM for Magician. so i hate to know that and i hate peoples who are saying they have WM2005 ROM for Magician and run away with no ****ing any news about their activities...
after wasting long time to wait for it... i will not Download it or Flash my Magician even if it out after my post coz there will come soon alot of cool Phones with WM2005 and more better than Magician.... so guys save your time and go sell your Magicians to get newer one... NOT BUGGY one like XDA II WM2005
this is the life don't loose it
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CHILL!
cool thread 8) at least now theres a dedicated thread for complains rather than filling up the previous ones which keeps the updates as well 8) i hate it when i see the thread abt news i'm eager at sets itself to "update" and find out the update is nothing but complain, seriously
::adit
Hello all!
I’ve been reading all posts regarding this “famous” WM5 Magician ROM and has so, I’ve decided to post a small (made up) story about this situation. I hope you like it
The High Skilled liar
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Letter from a unemployed guy:
Dear Sirs,
I’ve noticed that you’re looking for someone high skilled with a PhD, for a position has a Technical Director / CTO on your company. Has so, i’ve taken the liberty of sending you my resumé which i think, fulfils your requirements.
Best regards,
B.
Response letter from company YXZ
Dear Sir,
Thank you for your excellent resumé. We are very interested on meeting you and as so, we would like to have a small meeting on next Wednesday. Please don’t forget to bring along your PhD sealed certification.
Best regards,
A.
Response Letter from a unemployed guy:
Dear Sir,
Unfortunately I’ve lost my PhD sealed certification. But i’m free to meet up with you on Wednesday.
Best regards,
B.
Response letter from company YXZ
Dear Sir,
I’m afraid that we really need to see your original sealed PhD certification, since this position is of great importance. Since your resumé has exactly what we are looking for, we are willing to wait a few days for you, while you get your new copy of the original PhD diploma from your university ABC.
Best regards,
A.
Response Letter from a unemployed guy:
Dear Sirs,
Unfortunately, my wife got sick and requires 24hs attention during this month. She has injured her spine and I can’t leave her alone for too long. And has so, i don’t have time for getting a new certificate due to that. So if you’re willing to accept my candidacy without the PhD, I might have a few minutes to meet you up.
Best regards,
B.
Response letter from company YXZ
Dear Sir,
I understand your situation but our company has a strict policy about contracting persons that are proven to be certified. Since your resumé caused a great impression on us, we decided to contact the University ABC that you have pointed, so to figure out a way of solving this situation. Unfortunately we couldn’t get any response about your diploma (no one knew you). We also have obtained the information that you can request it by phone, and that it will be mailed to your home. We will continue to wait for you a few days more.
P.S.: We hope that your wife is feeling better.
Best regards,
A.
Response Letter from a unemployed guy:
Dear Sirs,
Thank you for your caring. I have had another situation…I’ve contacted my university but they can’t find my certificate anywhere. I’m sorry but I can’t send it to you. Besides, my car has broken and it’s hard to go meet you since there’s no easy transportation to your company. Has so, I’m must decline this proposal. Thank you for your time.
Regards,
B.
Response letter from company YXZ
Dear Sir,
Has our last offer, we are willing to meet with you at your university, if you can spare a few minutes ( btw, we hope that your wife is feeling better now) where we will sort out this situation. We just need a proof that you have a PhD, and we will accept you for the CTO position. Please, just name the day and time and we will meet there.
Regards,
A
..Needless to say, that company YXZ never got a response.
Cheers
Keeper: AMAZING!
Ehehehe. Best regards I'm still LOL for the great analogy.
Let's now keep talking about the injured woman now. That's all that matter.
And
we all know originally there is no WM2005 ROM for Magician. so i hate to know that and i hate peoples who are saying they have WM2005 ROM for Magician and run away with no ****ing any news about their activities...
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This is exactly the point why some of us are ****i'n mad.
If I was the one that came here and post "hey, I have wm5" I was commiting myself to give you some news. If I don't want to give news in the first place, I would talk directly to Buzz, as he was the guy that had the skills and the respect from the community. I think this is common sense: if you dont want to reply to questions, why the heck are you opening a topic to lauch doubt and uncertain?! Don't post it. Do something with your software that is productive, instead of talking to us, comunity.
If you really have the rom, the comunity would be better served if you STFU and send the rom to buzz in the first place (without even posting about it).
I'm now waiting here for the next raptor show up, when he will bash us because of our ingratitude, and how painfull this quest is getting to him.
If ur imagination is true, so, u will never see Raptor again, and most probably, he is surfing our forum now under a new name and reads ur posts with great fun and laughing. Now, we need Colombo (the detective) to follow the new members that joined the forum since the disappearence of raptorz and investigates all their posts, way of wriring and IPs and comparing it with that of raptors to discover his new name and give him a great kik outside the forum.
Anyway, thank u raports, u gave us some fun and brain storming and opend our imaginations.
N.B. Another senario that if were right i will feel too shame, is that raptor is now resting in a bed in a hospital somewhere in london under a salping to support his spine and cannot move by any way to write to us.
kta said:
And jimmy-bish, couldn't you just ignore such threads if they don't interest you? I found AlexF's post more interesting than yours!
... Visit other forums and you'll find these type of discussions on daily basis? Does this have that, will we have this upgrade, etc? There's no "police" shutting their mouths up.
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Funny, I've visited and am a member of many other forums and in each of them, the members seem to be smart enough to wait patiently for an answer. Have a read through the thread, if there's no news, move on. I am also a moderator of one of the forums, and I haven't had to delete a single post about this subject as there aren't as many clowns who keep asking.
AND... one of your so called "police" happens to be Buzz, who locked the first WM5 thread as he got sick of the flaming! Fine job that did as all the clowns just created new threads. Doesn't that tell you something?
Yeah.
We are the ones to blame, the bad guys.
The person who came here and say "hey, I have wm5 on my magician" but never give us back answers or the actual rom and was always giving us different excuses (hey, people that have kids have time for them, and people with serious injury would not take the effort to came to the internet to not give us nothing) and responding on another forums (this one blows the "maybe raptor is in hopsital and don't have internet there stuff) and refused to upload via ftp because he already has a meet with raptor messenger (he didn't give the address, so what meet was it?!) is the person that deserve respect, care, and the title of the good guy.
You already knew what was this topic about. It's title is a forbidden question. If you people were smart, you should notice it is not a pleasent topic to you guys. Why the heck you keep reading a thing you don't want too? Move along, read the other topics. Let the bashers bash. It is only ONE topic. People are not taking a lot of space on xda-dev database.
Remember: you cannot control other people from posting, but you can control you so yourself can abstain from reading this post.
Why don't you do a "how's raptor health" topic? I think that would interest most of the users on the forum, so... this topic would die because of no replies.
People are constantly bashing things: broken firmwares, no support, HTC! Why can't we bash, or doubt, or whatever we want, if we discuss with correctness and without violence?
Funny thing is: people still think we don't see a wm5 rom because of the raptors injury. Maybe he is dead... He couldn't even upload a 25mb file, but he still keeped saying he was taking a huge effort to get us the file. Why didn't he upload just the first bytes of the rom?! With ftp, if he tried, at least buzz would get that info (well, if their crappy bt connection could send 416bytes on one connection... but maybe it would hang). Think this: will you still use gsm when this magic rom travel from raptor pocket to buzz? Guess not.
PS: remember that the censored guy told raptor the rom was an update to jam users, from club-imate? were on club-imate do you see the rom?
-> I keep waiting for raptor to came here and bash us ranters. he will say: "i'm sorry for being injured and for have a 3mth old kid, and you are all ungratefull". been there, saw that.
well, i think we are watching a DRAMA Movie which its title is:
"Pathetic Raptor's life and WM2005"
if i can get this WM2005 ROM i will not post any **** until i make sure that i can put my hands on it
to Raptor's People "Don't post any **** before you clean it" :x
Best regards for guys who are still waiting... :wink:
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You already knew what was this topic about. It's title is a forbidden question. If you people were smart, you should notice it is not a pleasent topic to you guys. Why the heck you keep reading a thing you don't want too? Move along, read the other topics.
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Oh how boring would that be, just looking up information for my Jam, seeking help, giving help in return... blah blah blah.....
Simple fact, I love these flame wars. I really don't have an opinion either way on the whole Raptorz thing, but I'm having a really good chuckle while stirring people up! I suppose it's an Australian thing.. we all enjoy taking the piss! :lol:
And there's nothing wrong with a healthy debate... I'll let you get up on your high horse, and then I'll shoot it! :lol: :lol:
Keeper, amazing! LOL! Copied to my LJ. Thanks for a good joke.
NightmarE, you so right!
I think, there is a another way to upgrade - sell Magician and buy Atom or another new phone with WM5.0 and WiFi. It will be better.
For me personal, i'll be waiting for WM5.0 before Christmass, than just upgrade the phone

Interesting Smartphone comments from Stephen Fry

Follow the link below for Stephen Frys' take on the state of the Smartphone market.
http://stephenfry.com/blog/
He is very knowledgeable - maybe he should join xda developers!
Markee
Markee said:
Follow the link below for Stephen Frys' take on the state of the Smartphone market.
http://stephenfry.com/blog/
He is very knowledgeable - maybe he should join xda developers!
Markee
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I have to agree that he has long experience. But I still did not understand the catch why the Iphone suppose to be better then WM????
I fully agree that Iphone has shown in design of graphical control of a device MS has long way to improve. But from the technical pointview it is obvious that Iphone is fare away from current WM device capability's
However said that I think anyone of us can be happy that a competition to current WM devices came up and force such companies Like HTC to invent such devices like HTC Touch. It shows Those guys can do even better.
Call me ignorant But I still don't understand Why some would pay more then 500Euro for a device that has nice looking 10 icon shortcuts on today screen, but technically it can only do 20-30% what is a WM6 device currently able to do
Simple answer - Eye Candy - it's what sells Macs and Ipods really, isn't it?
They are not necessarily the best at anything they do, but they tend to look the best!
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Simple answer - Eye Candy - it's what sells Macs and Ipods really, isn't it?
They are not necessarily the best at anything they do, but they tend to look the best!
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which sums up the whole one mouse button thing. the mouse looks nice but drives me mad not having a right click!
Markee said:
Follow the link below for Stephen Frys' take on the state of the Smartphone market.
http://stephenfry.com/blog/
He is very knowledgeable - maybe he should join xda developers!
Markee
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At just under 6500 words in his first post, and with 206 comments since September 16th, perhaps it's us who should be joining him. Of course he may well be posting here - not as Stephen Fry of course - although come to think of it who would believe someone posting as Stephen Fry really was Stephen Fry anyway? ...
I agree with Bulldog though. Thanks to Stephen's sober review I now know that the so vaunted iPhone can hardly do anything that my beloved 5-year old Wallaby can't!

Bastards selling my Unlocker

Hi, some french tosser has decided to flog my unlocker... sooo
I'm looking for someone in France who'd like to undercut this asshole by selling it cheaper... say we sell it a euro or 2 cheaper and I'll even split the money with you 50/50 (after fees too)
any takers willing to help?
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Hi, some french tosser has decided to flog my unlocker... sooo
I'm looking for someone in France who'd like to undercut this asshole by selling it cheaper... say we sell it a euro or 2 cheaper and I'll even split the money with you 50/50 (after fees too)
any takers willing to help?
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That is bull****. This seems to be happening more and more around here lately. Just a while back some prick was selling slithers cube ac's apps and a couple of more people's apps. This is getting out of hand. At this rate, people will stop developing apps for these phones and we will be left w/ the bloatware **** our providers decide to stick us with.
Oli, I live in the US but if you need anything from me, including flying to France to hunt this asshat down and remove their genitals, you let me know.
i dont know anything about french laws, but arent there any international laws that can do something? Im sure you can show proof of authorship...anything that can be done through that? though the genital removing is quite satisfactory.
yep that is bull****...
here's the thread tater was referring to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=374973
http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/ele/607840200.html
grizzley said:
http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/ele/607840200.html
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I just ran in to the same add looking for a Connection Manager for someone else on xda. That is crap.
i saw a forum here with some french people just dont remember for wich phone im gonne take a look.
Olipro said:
Hi, some french tosser has decided to flog my unlocker... sooo
I'm looking for someone in France who'd like to undercut this asshole by selling it cheaper... say we sell it a euro or 2 cheaper and I'll even split the money with you 50/50 (after fees too)
any takers willing to help?
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Hey what's the smallest book in the world... Mod Edit: Now now, no stereotyping of that sort here!!
AllTheWay said:
Hey what's the smallest book in the world...
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In the Imoratal Words of Groundskeeper Willie:
Bonjourrrrr, ...................................Mod Edit: Now now, no stereotyping of that sort here!!
My Edit: sorry all, no harm intended. lol.
\sulk
Dave
Where is the link to the software? We should file a complaint against him..
XtreMe_G said:
yep that is bull****...
here's the thread tater was referring to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=374973
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PoisnBGood's post "Maybe people xda should set up a freeware license. Free to use, but illegal to sell. That way people will have legal rights to their work", sounds good. Does anyone know how to set this up?
this 2 guys seem french and they r well known , Bepe and Ervius
sd73ta said:
PoisnBGood's post "Maybe people xda should set up a freeware license. Free to use, but illegal to sell. That way people will have legal rights to their work", sounds good. Does anyone know how to set this up?
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but would that include anything before the license was put forth?
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http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/ele/607840200.html
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Ok, so anyone that lets this guy touch your latop, much less your phone is nuts!
Who knows what he'll load ...
Some folks are just too trusting at times.
Phil
There are laws and all that ****, but eBay's VeRO is a total waste of time... unless you enjoy continually playing cat-and-mouse, it's futile.
Best way to get the ****ers is to list an item for less and undercut them.
grizzley said:
http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/ele/607840200.html
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I've just flagged that post to craigslist.
pbratton said:
Ok, so anyone that lets this guy touch your latop, much less your phone is nuts!
Who knows what he'll load ...
Some folks are just too trusting at times.
Phil
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He's also selling Dutty's ROM.
Well, what do you expect. It's obviously somebody who browses this site.
I cant do much at all...but if somebody tells me there AOL/AIM screen names, i could most likely find out the passw0rd....and if its an AOL, it will have all there info attached to it.
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He's also selling Dutty's ROM.
Well, what do you expect. It's obviously somebody who browses this site.
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Yes. If you look at the Craigslist ad, you will see they just copy and pasted Duttys wording from XDA forums.
Maybe from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375037
Get a rope!!! As my old Grand Pappy used to say.
God I miss the old "hangin' horse thieves" days of the Arizona frontier.
You think this would be a "rope offense"? or just "tar & feather".
You know it's probably one of those whiny "Don't pick ont the noobie" posters thinking "F'em, I'll get even & show
them!".
etnies
I cant do much at all...but if somebody tells me there AOL/AIM screen names, i could most likely cr4ck the passw0rd....and if its an AOL, it will have all there info attached to it.
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You Sir are a Schmuck. You just left evidence of a threatened cyber terorist act. Always use cutouts, blind emails or pm's for offers of retirbution. DUH!

Our Little World

i know this is not the place for this, i dont even know why am i doing this, but i felt the need to say it: as imperfect as it is, with all our noobs, experienced users, rom cooking just for the fun of it, donations (hell, smb was willing to donate even a whole kaiser!!), advices for free, fun all around, helpful persons willing to help just because we share a common passion...
... all these mean so much to me and in my eyes they are a lot more beautiful than the world we see everyday.
dont know exactly why i had to say this, but please go on and keep it as such. also, thanks to all of you for putting your little brick at the foundation of a beautiful building!
as smb was saying in another post, love is in the air... maybe its the spring...
Although it's a bit twee, I have to agree.
The concept of developers & users sharing ideas and code and actually HELPING each other in return for donations to the level you can afford is a fantastic concept - and one that Microsoft would do well to learn from (amongst others).
The end result is everyone is MUCH happier and the product is much better. The only problem is I suspect nobody on here could make a living from it...
I'm feeling all teary eyed now. But you guys & gals are right. Group hug.
Let's all sing together now.
Koom By Ya...... why am I the only one singing?
Sorry....
I was too busy reaching for the kleenex box
hehe... bunch of nerds... really!!... get all hot and flustered at the idea of a new rom or some cab file... it's so sweet...
isn't there a restaurant in London with no prices on the menu but where patrons pay what they believe the meal is worth? Remember hearing about it years ago. Wonder if they still in business.
Yeah there are some talented cooks/programmers on this site. It's a wonderful site for owners of pda's looking for a little doctoring of their phones and I wish xda-developers.com all the best in the future...
Because...
ionutz6 said:
i know this is not the place for this, i dont even know why am i doing this...
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...you fell down and cracked your head ?
Just kidding mate
I cracked my screen last night.... was thinking of having a service for my phone.... bagpipes and everything... let me know if you guys will be coming.
What the hell's the matter with you blundering boobs & sniveling sissies?
This belongs in the Development Forum why?
And you Tater, kumbaya????
Oh...
GSLEON3 said:
What the hell's the matter with you blundering boobs & sniveling sissies?
This belongs in the Development Forum why?
And you Tater, kumbaya????
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...you just hurt my feelings...
I agree
ionutz6 said:
love is in the air... maybe its the spring...
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I am totaly Agree, specialy If you post something, if it is already posted, there is alot of love around...Yeah its the spring
i must say its very touching what u wrote and very true. even though i am new to xda being here has truly been a wonderful experience.
The amount of knowledge is truly monumental.
now on singing kombaya i need some body to give me a beat ...
its not even about money or anything, its about people. just hearing that laurentius spent one whole day (9am - 12pm) to tweak a new rom for us, for you, for anybody, made me think that passion is everything, or anyway a lot more than what people are forced to do for a living.
ive been reading this forum for over 2 years now and remember a lot of things, funny posts, things that, together with the great pieces of software developed, made my day now and then. thank ya all for this!
as you say, this is a silly thread and should under no circumstances stay especially here under the rom development section. kyphur, related to a discussion from laurentius new diamond rom thread, feel free to delete all these.
thesire said:
i must say its very touching what u wrote and very true. even though i am new to xda being here has truly been a wonderful experience.
The amount of knowledge is truly monumental.
now on singing kombaya i need some body to give me a beat ...
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as most of you probably, i am user on different forums as well. although some amount of flaming is present here as well, it is under no circumstances comparable to things happening on other sites and im grateful to all of you for this.
maybe we should have the national hymn of xdadev, for example Kombaya, somewhere to be downloaded or at least to be visible.
Me too!
Just wanted to add my agreement and appreciation for all that is offered from xda and the people that make it all work. A heart felt "Thank you very much!"
Delete this thread? NEVER...
I'll just move it to someplace more appropriate (but I did leave a perm redirect so it's always hooked to Kaiser Rom Dev)...
True, true... To be honest the only reason I keep buying HTC devices is xda-developers community Although HTC with their support and behavior is trying really hard to persuade me from these decisions on buying new HTC hardware )
harry_x said:
True, true... To be honest the only reason I keep buying HTC devices is xda-developers community Although HTC with their support and behavior is trying really hard to persuade me from these decisions on buying new HTC hardware )
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Agreed, if I were head of marketing for HTC I would pay Dutty (amongst others) to continue cooking roms for our devices.
OMG, sensitive nerds! *turns around and sneaks away*
Just to also add few thoughts on this forum.
This year I bought my first ever PDA, and had to go to considerable trouble to have it delivered here. In a country where the concept of customer support is not yet in existence, and with thousand noob questions, this forum has provided all the help that I needed. So, this forum means a lot to people like me who have no access to official customer support services or other facilities available elsewhere.
My only regret is that as yet, I am unable to more actively contribute to the great community here.
Thanks XDA developers and keep it up.

20753 CHN ROM not dumpable...

hi all, i found this ROM and i would like to translate it into other languages (givin' the author the right props obv.), but i'm not able to dump it.
The dump from imgfs shows a lot of overlapping errors, so the files dumped are useless... Anyone has a point on that?
the rom is this one (Chinese language)
http://www.brsbox.com/filebox/down/fc/2651fe9a701f0585ef823b878908d440
and the original thread where i found it
http://www.darkforcesteam.com/showthread.php?t=313
it's a protect rom
so? no way to dump it?
how's it cooked to do that?
bradipo.xda said:
so? no way to dump it?
how's it cooked to do that?
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la 19960 dovrebbe essere l'ultima rom per g3 e g4 ( da quello che si legge su pdaviet sono loro i sviluppatori)
le versioni che si trovano 20xxx sono per device + recenti l(a 20753 gira anche su g4)
BEST ROM the uni!
WOOOOW!!!!
Iam just imagining if the ONES started the XDA FORUM at beginning started to do this.
Or if Microsoft start to BLOCK Us to do what we do here.
They ( this persons) are the dumb of the dumb. Of course everyone work a lot and sometimes they loose the control and other persons stolen the work. by the way, WE ARE DOING THE SAME WITH MISCOROSFT. how they fell?
This is a ****.
you're right... after that who cooked this ROM should have taken from some other non protected ROM... so where's the point?
dunno
my 2 cents
This is turning interesting!!
I think no point protecting things and keeping the end product accessible reduces the choice and will eventually force people to either use it or get out.
End of the day, what is being published as WM6 or above is all ported stuff from somewhere else and nothing is from original work of M$ for Universal, as M$ stopped releasing ROMs for universal and associated support.
So nothing proprietary here unless there is anything that is written from scratch in there.
We all (at least most of us) know what we are doing w.r.t to flashing the device with some ROM or other and associated risks, and so if someone modifies the stuff the way they feel like and flash and endup with a brick, its their call so no point protecting the stuf with encryption etc.,
My option would be use as is, if the cooker generous enough to share his work beyond JUST ROM then probably it gives little bit room for others to tweak it to their personal taste and if that is super stuff they even share with others and eventually forum gets benifitted. If the later part is restricted then probably its time to look for alternative 'device'.
Many thanks to Bradipo-xda for sharing this even if it is not dumpable due to how it was created!!
Regards
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[...]My option would be use as is, if the cooker generous enough to share his work beyond JUST ROM then probably it gives little bit room for others to tweak it to their personal taste and if that is super stuff they even share with others and eventually forum gets benifitted. If the later part is restricted then probably its time to look for alternative 'device'.[...]
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Agreed, and that's why I just spent 10 minutes exploring this ROM before flashing another one and goin' on the search of "the perfect one" lol.
I'm one of those never satisfied that always find something to add or subtract, minor bugs to tweaks, and gets fun in the process. In fact i started my tweaking experience just a couple of weeks ago to resolve a nuisance in the ROM i was using (i still had the original shipped WM5 ROM) and discovered an interesting new world, read everything about it and now i'm ready to make my own translation and modification to the ROM i'm going to use, and why not, sharing it in the near future. And as an added bonus, being able to deconstruct some other work gives you a better look to the work itself. Look at Tomal's Roms and there's a lot to learn only in how is packaged, just to name one. And i think that this one is the main "mental state" of the great majority of the forum members... the active ones at least, not the 0 post leechers i mean. Think also that neither the commercial-private-property-obsessed world is so jealous of their ROM's secret, or this site probably would not be alive. So i'm a bit afraid of the new trend of "get your hands out of my ROM" that i've seen growin' in this days, but i'm quite a noob here so i can be wrong on that. Anyway... looks like that everything can be opened and the secrets don't last long on the net, so maybe this so called protections will be just the next simple task for the "beautiful minded and hearted" people behind the free tools we use every day, and that's the reason for continuing supporting them and the community in the ways we can. Just my 2 cents, off course.
Oh, and for the funny part... i learnt almost everything 'bout dumps-tweaks-coooking but still unable to fix the question that started all, lol
if uneed 20753 u can find it in the nike forum's thats where i get alot of my oem & sys files and what im using to make a few different roms till i find one that i would feel like a real good working rom

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