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Some questions about CM6,and freshly rooted mytouch

i just rooted my phone to CM 6, using the one click root and ROM manger, which is wonderful. but i have a couple questions.
1. how does the apps2SD work? i know you can save the apps to the SD card, blah blah blah, but what does it mean? will the apps perform less now that they are moved on there?
2. CM6 is using the 2.2 source code, so its basically 2.2. now that i am updated to 2.2 are ALL the apps suppost to be visible in the market? i feel like im missing some of the ones that should be there.
3. sometimes when i reload my phone, or reboot it my apps seem to go crazy on me, mainly my widgets. how do i fix this?

1) apps2sd will help free up internal memory. some apps may lag a bit running from your sd card.
2) as far as the market goes, remember cm 6 is still a rc. i run it on the mytouch 1.2 and my wife has it on her mytouch. its stable enough for everyday use but ive ran into a few glitches as well.
3) explain some more please. what is crazy about them? lag? not loading?

[Q] Apps to SD

Refering to this post Apps to SD, I have some doubts.
1. Is this similar to the 2GB inaccessible partition on Nexus S ?
2. Is that partition ext3 ?
3. Do apps get installed directly on that and I don't have to install apps on sd as explained in that post ever ?
4. If no, will creating partition and installing apps on it slow down the phone ?
I installed lots of apps from market yesterday so thinking of these things as I have read that installing many apps may slow down the phone.
please clarify my doubts

Have you gone to Settings, Applications and checked how much of your internal memory you're actually using? There's a little bar graph at the bottom of the first screen.
I've got over 130 apps installed and still have almost 600mb free. For most users, on the NS, app storage space isn't going to be a concern. We've got 1gb internal for that.
Also, many apps can be pushed to your sdcard without any hacks required.
The old school apps2sd involves repartioning your sdcard, formatting part of it ext4, then creating symlinks to move apps to the sdcard.
Seems like a lot of work unless you're really short of space already.
All partitions on the internal storage space are ext4 or yaffs2...no ext3 on the NS stock,

Thanks. So I shouldnt be really about that
But will installing many apps slow down my phone ? How do I stop some apps from starting automatically in the background ?

suhas_sm said:
Thanks. So I shouldnt be really about that
But will installing many apps slow down my phone ? How do I stop some apps from starting automatically in the background ?
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I wouldn't worry about it until it becomes a problem, if you know what I mean. If you install a lot of BIG game applications that don't let you move to sdcard from the Applications manager, you might start to run out of room, but I've only seen one person in this forum state that he was filling cramped, and he has 300+ apps, including large games if I recall correctly.
Having a bunch of apps installed should not slow down your phone just because they're installed.
If a bunch of them are active in the background either intentionally or not, that might cause some slow down, but it's just not a real problem on Android 2.2+ in my experience.
Android's memory intentionally loads apps up in advance so they're ready and waiting when you want to use them. They usually just sit there using zero cpu until you give them something to do. It is best to avoid TASK KILLERS, they will screw you up more than help you in general.
If you really feel the need to stop certain apps from being loaded automatically at the phone's discretion, there's an app called AutoStarts in the Market that lets you block apps from loading automatically. There are other apps like that one. They require you to be rooted to use them.

[Q] Why does my launcherpro,GO SMS, and a bunch of other apps always need to reload?

On my old Fascinate, anytime i switched apps launcherpro would load right away and my app drawer would always be complete. Now, almost any time I switch programs, launcherpro needs to reload so all my shortcuts take about 5 seconds to come up and the app drawer takes 30 seconds to fully populate. Does this have something to do with the amount of RAM on this phone? The usable ram seems to be less than the Fascinate! Also, my GO SMS takes seconds to load each time as well!
Also happens to me on APP 2 SD when trying to copy apps to my sd card, 9 times out of 10 the whole list needs to reload. Once it actually brought me back to the list that loaded and allowed me to move another app without waiting for the list to reload.
I am on Gummycharge 1.8 gingerbread.

This can happen sometimes if you have apps on your SD (and your SD card is slow).

Doesn't explain why launcher pro needs to restart. I'm using go launcher ex, which is stored in the internal memory, and it restarts often.
Gremlins are watching you...

When he said "if you have apps on your SD card," he didn't mean the launcher -- if you simply have apps on your SD card it can force your launcher to redraw as apps the launcher links to are obviously on SD. The prevailing theory as to why is that Samsung's bundled 32gb card is just too slow, because people who've purchased Class 6 cards don't experience the constant launcher redraws.
As for apps having to reload (and this certainly can affect third-party launchers as well, aside from the SD issue), yeah, that's more due to the low amount of RAM and it just means the OS is closing the app to free up memory for other tasks. That's normal behavior for Android, and is actually a good thing (otherwise you'd just run out of memory)... but if you don't like waiting for apps to start you could try uninstalling apps that keep running in the background. The app "Watchdog" can help you figure out which ones those are.

Falcyn said:
When he said "if you have apps on your SD card," he didn't mean the launcher -- if you simply have apps on your SD card it can force your launcher to redraw as apps the launcher links to are obviously on SD. The prevailing theory as to why is that Samsung's bundled 32gb card is just too slow, because people who've purchased Class 6 cards don't experience the constant launcher redraws.
As for apps having to reload (and this certainly can affect third-party launchers as well, aside from the SD issue), yeah, that's more due to the low amount of RAM and it just means the OS is closing the app to free up memory for other tasks. That's normal behavior for Android, and is actually a good thing (otherwise you'd just run out of memory)... but if you don't like waiting for apps to start you could try uninstalling apps that keep running in the background. The app "Watchdog" can help you figure out which ones those are.
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I actually used watchdog to erase programs that totalled about 100mb of memory and the issue is still at hand. I wonder if there is a way to put a priority on these apps so they are last to closed when they need to be closed so to speak

I have the same problem. I've been pissed about the class 2 card but I might steal the GF's class 4 from the TB and see if it changes the issue.

I've been using a class 6 card with my Charge since day 1 and also see these issues.

I was having similar issues w/ ADW EX. Switched back to Froyo 3 days ago, and haven't had a reload yet.

May I suggest taking at look the following thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
SuperCharger has REALLY improved my phone!!!

Wolfrazor said:
May I suggest taking at look the following thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
SuperCharger has REALLY improved my phone!!!
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Ah. So the script does work. Have you noticed any battery improvements/impacts?
Sent from my Droid Charge running Humble 1.42

Wolfrazor said:
May I suggest taking at look the following thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
SuperCharger has REALLY improved my phone!!!
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I picked balance 1. I wonder what is a good setting?

[Q] Why only 323MB RAM total?

My new Samsung Galaxy S 4G has, to my understanding 1G ROM for system use, 512MB RAM for apps to run in, and an 8GB SD Card for storage.
I'm not understanding something about the setup though. The main question is I go to Task Manager, then RAM, and I usually am using about 250mb -- out of 323MB. 323mb?? Where the hell is the rest of my RAM?
Also when I install an app that can't install to the SD card for whatever reason, where the hell is it going? into my 512RAM? Into my ROM? When I click the Storage Tab, it says Internal Phone Storage 452MB/514MB. External SD Card 1.56GB/7.39GB.
So I'm assuming the ROM has a hidden section for the system, and leaves 514MB for phone apps.
I guess I'm mainly wondering why I only have 323MB to run things in. I have been having problems with it running slow, or randomly rebooting the main interface (then it re-reads the SD cards which takes a minute). This is with just a few apps open; say, Doubletwist playing a podcast and Navigator guiding me somewhere.
I did update to 2.3.6 when that came out and it actually made my phone quite a bit zippier. I've rooted, and I use Titanium Backup to get rid of a bunch of junk that Tmobile put on there. But there's still things running that I don't want taking RAM, but don't want to get rid of. QIK for example likes to have a service running, as does facebook. I like to use Qik sometimes facebook on occasion, and I just want to start the app those times, not have it running all the time. Telenav GPS has a service running all the time too. I'd like to use that app sometimes, but don't want it in my RAM until that time -- why the service? Oh and in Services (through Settings->Applications->Running Services it says at the bottom RAM 165MB used 101MB free. What RAM is this referring to anyway?
Please someone help me understand how RAM works on this thing. I'm totally new to Android, just came over from using an iphone for years so this is all new.

The main reason you see only 323MB of RAM is that the rest is dedicated to memory-mapped devices link the video card. That lovely screen needs backing memory.

IDisposable said:
The main reason you see only 323MB of RAM is that the rest is dedicated to memory-mapped devices link the video card. That lovely screen needs backing memory.
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man that blows >.< we need to be able 2 add ram like we can on PCs >.<
TY for the answer i been wondering

[Q] How to make Swap Partition For Galaxy Tab Plus

Hi
How can i create Swap Partition for increase RAM on Galaxy tab plus?
I find guide for other device, can`t find for Gt 6200
Thanks for help...

hmr007 said:
Hi
How can i create Swap Partition for increase RAM on Galaxy tab plus?
I find guide for other device, can`t find for Gt 6200
Thanks for help...
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you can;t and should never need to.
You have 1 GB of RAM more than enough for any application.
Swap has not been used since Froyo I think . Since OG phones with 300 mb RAM.
Not used not needed

DigitalMD said:
you can;t and should never need to.
You have 1 GB of RAM more than enough for any application.
Swap has not been used since Froyo I think . Since OG phones with 300 mb RAM.
Not used not needed
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Thanks for replay
but this 1GB (830 MB Actually) full after open 4-5 program or 2 game And Android close automatically other Application And last States!
I Want to save last States of other program Anyway until i Close program manually
For example Chrome close tabs after open 4-5 program and when i visit old tabs , it reloaded again!

hmr007 said:
Hi
How can i create Swap Partition for increase RAM on Galaxy tab plus?
I find guide for other device, can`t find for Gt 6200
Thanks for help...
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Hi. Easiest way is to download Swapper2 from the PlayStore.

viper001 said:
Hi. Easiest way is to download Swapper2 from the PlayStore.
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Only if you want to slow your tablet to a crawl.
Why would you want to swap very fast RAM with very slow SD memory? No need and a really bad idea.

DigitalMD said:
Only if you want to slow your tablet to a crawl.
Why would you want to swap very fast RAM with very slow SD memory? No need and a really bad idea.
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agree. but, it looks like he's more concerned with multitasking.
it always depends on the user. let him try it first and let him decide what's acceptable for him.
Besides, "slow your tablet to a crawl" is an exaggeration.

viper001 said:
agree. but, it looks like he's more concerned with multitasking.
it always depends on the user. let him try it first and let him decide what's acceptable for him.
Besides, "slow your tablet to a crawl" is an exaggeration.
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That won't help multitasking , Android already has an efficient memory management system. That OG swap app was for Froyo phones that only had about 300 mb to run the OS and apps. No longer applies. And since there are no true multi=tasking apps. IE you can;t run two foregrounds apps. ..... , you can never fill up RAM

DigitalMD said:
That won't help multitasking , Android already has an efficient memory management system. That OG swap app was for Froyo phones that only had about 300 mb to run the OS and apps. No longer applies. And since there are no true multi=tasking apps. IE you can;t run two foregrounds apps. ..... , you can never fill up RAM
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OK. "Task-Switching" then .
Agree that android memory management is "efficient". the problem is that when it runs out of memory the app at the "back" of the stack gets "killed". data is saved for that app so when it's called back up, it "seems" like it was running all the while.
So, as per the OP question, since his problem was that his web pages keep reloading, ie app was killed due to memory constraints, his idea is to increase the RAM or in this case adding virtual RAM via swap.
It's not a bad Idea, since the amount of RAM is virtually increased, then the amount of apps that can be in RAM at the same time is also increased.
FYI, not only for froyo, i use swap for my NEO V running ICS. made DEAD SPACE run better than without swap. :good:
Haven't encountered a need on the P6200 though. Ofcourse, there must be a reason why 2GB RAM devices are now available.

there is not reason that swapping would make your tablet run better, none.
Because as of ICS , and with 1gb+ ram, you are emulating and interfering with what Android (linux) already does .
you have one foreground task and whatever idle tasks and then unused apps that are retained in RAM until they are needed or another apps needs space and they are removed from RAM. Then they reside on SD memory so what advantage does swapping to SD memory give you, none, in fact it adds a extra useless step .
SO Android attempts to keep RAM 80% used.at all times. If you look at the process logically, I do not believe can lay out a scenario by which the swapper apps beings any benefit to current Android systems.

DigitalMD said:
there is not reason that swapping would make your tablet run better, none.
Because as of ICS , and with 1gb+ ram, you are emulating and interfering with what Android (linux) already does .
you have one foreground task and whatever idle tasks and then unused apps that are retained in RAM until they are needed or another apps needs space and they are removed from RAM. Then they reside on SD memory so what advantage does swapping to SD memory give you, none, in fact it adds a extra useless step .
SO Android attempts to keep RAM 80% used.at all times. If you look at the process logically, I do not believe can lay out a scenario by which the swapper apps beings any benefit to current Android systems.
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You actually pointed out the reason why the Original Poster wanted to use swap. he wanted his currently "unused" browser app to reside in ram, and not get killed. in this case it will be in virtual ram.
I agree with all your points. and I don't use swap on my tablet (P6200) haven't had a need, but i do use it on my phone(Neo V, 512 RAM, 384 useable).
All i'm saying is let him try. it's possible that he is hitting the limit on his Tablet. I know, cause it's easy to hit the limit on my phone that i'm very sure swapping works. e.g i can now switch between, Chrome, Facebook, Email, What'sUp, answer a phone call, send a text message and come back to Chrome (which has three open tabs BTW) without Chrome "reloading" those same three tabs. i wasn't able to do this before i starter using swap.
and yes, there's a bit lag but it's better than incurring cost of reloading a page each time, esp if your on a limited data plan.
One other thing that was not considered yet also are the OOM groups and Minfree. another option is Compcache.
The use of Swap really depends on the user and the way he uses his device. You can only see a benefit from swap if you consistently use up all your RAM. Which, if i understand the OP's problem correctly, is the case.