Few Questions...Plz Help - Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]

Hi I'm new here and have a few questions. I downloaded some apps off the web but when they are updated I cannot update them using the market. Is there any way for me to update them or add them to the "My Downloads" list in the market? If I root my phone, but do not install a custom rom will I still get ota updates, be able to install market apps, and so on?
Details:
Phone: Nexus One (T-Mobile Version)
Android Version: 2.2 FroYo FRF50 (love it)
If you guys need baseband and kernel information let me know. Also, what it different in stock froyo vs cyanmod vs any other rom? Sorry if this is in the wrong place to post this and the length.

Hi there, as of right now all that I can point you towards for you apps would be an app called apktor that can be found in the market the rest you will have to figure out on your own. Or you could also just redownload these apps through the market...
From what I have read besically when you root your phone you give up any chance to be able to OTA update. BTW I have a Telus Milestone so I am not sure about the phone you have because it might be different but I think it would be a global rule of Rooting= No OTA... Although while being rooted you can install apps from the market.
About the custom roms you will have to do some reading untill the Milestone's boot gets cracked I won't have a chance to play around with any roms, I guess best advice would be read read read and read some more. And after you have done all that reading, choose a couple of roms that interest you try each one for atleast a day and find the one that you like. If there was a best rom, there wouldn't be such a wide variety of them...
~PsyCl0ne

Nope, even if your phone has root you can still update apps via the market. I know because I updated my apps via this way. 2 Rules apply though.
1) The apps that you downloaded off the web are freeware and are also on the market.
2) The apps that you downloaded off the web AREN'T warez. (I'd suspect that's what you're trying to do, but do correct me if i'm wrong)
It is highly unlikely that in following these 2 simple rules you still can't update via market.

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goapk.com ever heard of it?

well someone from goapk.com emailed me saying they like one of my apps, and they want to convert it to Chinese and upload on their website and android market.
anyone ever heard of this place b4? and is there any chance they can just rip off my app and copy the source code?
they are asking just for the data where i keep my text so they can convert it to chinese, then i make a new apk for that and email it to them.
I got an email from them and from others. Each time, I replied saying I wasn't looking to distribute outside of the Android Market. They can't rip off your source code from the strings file, but it's possible to find out how it works using tools like baksmali. They are probably legit since they wouldn't contact you first if they wanted to do that
haxxo said:
they are asking just for the data where i keep my text so they can convert it to chinese, then i make a new apk for that and email it to them.
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I don't understand, why to email it to them and not just upload to Market by yourself? Then they will be able to install it normally and they will get it in their language.
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and is there any chance they can just rip off my app and copy the source code?
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Even now they could download your app from Market and localize it by themselves very easily, really
I was helping Chinese people in fixing their issues in Google Maps. They are good guys mostly, they just have problems with English.
goapk
goapk is apparantly the build of my htc desire. as is whenever i turn it on it says HTC then goapk.com then something in chinese. i bought it in china...
It sucks. it has the chinese GoMarket, not the android market. cant download anything!
Please tell me if i can download an apk version of the real android market from anywhere..
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goapk is apparantly the build of my htc desire. as is whenever i turn it on it says HTC then goapk.com then something in chinese. i bought it in china...
It sucks. it has the chinese GoMarket, not the android market. cant download anything!
Please tell me if i can download an apk version of the real android market from anywhere..
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I'm having the exact some issue! Just bought an HTC Desire in China, no Android market, just this terrible Chinese market called GoMarket by goapk. Super annoying. If anybody has a solution, please let me know!
Btw, I already tried rooting the phone using Unrevoked, but my phone has hboot 0.93 which seems to be impossible to root at this point in time.
Solution for goapk.com (or just rooting branded phones)
Ok, I've managed to solve the issue based on the information from this forum, so here's the solution (which is unfortunately quite long, but it works... at your own risk, of course):
The issue: A bought-in-China HTC Desire, branded by the horrible goapk.com with no Android market access. Could only access some Chinese market called GoMarket created by goapk.com. This could also apply to anyone with a branded phone (eg. branded by a carrier) that could not be rooted with UnrEVOked3.
Solution: Downgrade the OS to an unbranded HTC Sense Android 2.1 with a goldcard inserted in the phone. This makes it possible to root the phone using Unrevoked and then you can install any of the Android ROMs you like on it. Technically you could stop after downgrading to Android 2.1 and not bother rooting (since you'll already have Android Market access by then), but you'll probably want to continue so you can finish with Android 2.2 on your phone.
Method:
Step 1:
Get an extra MicroSD card (2gig or whatever) and create a goldcard. You need this because your phone is branded with goapk.com and this is part of getting rid of that. Find out how here: android.modaco.com/content/general-discussion/305672/creating-a-goldcard/#entry1233023
Tip: you don't need an microSD card reader. You can format the microSD card in your phone by connecting your phone as a USB drive, and right-clicking the drive and formating. It MUST be FAT32 format, NOT FAT, so do it from the computer controls, not on the phone itself (because the phone itself does it in FAT format)
Step 2:
With your goldcard in your phone, you can now downgrade to Android 2.1. This kills two birds with one stone. A. It removes the horrible goapk.com branding and B. Lowers your hboot from 0.93 to 0.83 which makes it possible to root your phone. Instructions here:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768256
Tip: if it fails the first time (as mine did) and it can't find the zip file at the end, make sure your goldcard was FAT32.
Now your phone will be running HTC Sense 2.1 unbranded, with access to Android Market. The next two steps will allow you to put any of the Froyo versions (with Sense or without, your choice) on your phone.
Step 3:
Root your phone with UnrEVOked. Instructions here:
rootmydroid.co.uk/guides/general/howto-root-your-htc-desire-wildfire-evo-incredible-with-unrevoked/
Tip: His instructions are great. His download pages are horrible, but they work eventually, just keep clicking.
Step 4:
Install any of the custom Android ROMs available. Instructions are also found on the above link for rooting the phone.
You can choose from any of the ROMs listed here: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
I went with DeFroST, which is a nice Android ROM without Sense, since Android is better off on it's own, IMO.
Tip: If you don't have an MicroSD card reader, make sure you put the ROM's zip file on your MicroSD before you wipe your phone (Pt. 3, point 4 in the guide).
That's it! When you finish, you'll have rooted phone with full Android Market Access and any version of Android you want on it. Sorry I couldn't recommend an easier way. Now if I could just get my hands on this damn person at HTC who let goapk.com crap all over this phone to begin with (or Google for not putting any rules in place)...
wow thanks a bunch. I hope this will work...
need to get hands on an extra microSD card for the moment
idasein said:
That's it! When you finish, you'll have rooted phone with full Android Market Access and any version of Android you want on it. Sorry I couldn't recommend an easier way. Now if I could just get my hands on this damn person at HTC who let goapk.com crap all over this phone to begin with (or Google for not putting any rules in place)...
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I just debranded my phone and holy crap its working! but i have a question:
Can i put initial sd card in it now? or do i have to use the goldcard forever??
Wow
Many thanks and 'holy crap' - this worked like a charm. My Android Desire is now fully functional!! FYI, if you have a Chinese simcard, you will still have restricted access to the Android Market but it will be much much better than goapk.com. However, if you insert a North American sim card, it works perfectly. Thanks again!
Robert to be able to gain full access to Market you can use something like MarketEnabler, which I'm sure you can find somewhere on the internet as .apk, since you won't be able to find it in the localized "chinese" Android Market..
getting rid of goapk
Have a Chinese HTC Legend, which came with goapk which was awful - slowed the phone down but also blocked the Android Market so that I should buy apps at the goapk market.
Thanks to Idasein, I got the idea of how to get rid of it, but had some problems with the files in the links mentioned (Kaspersky screamed that there was a trojan)
If anyone needs to get rid of goapk, then you can alternatively have a look at the easy instructions on Unlockr for how to downgrade a Legend - create goldcard, make the phone downgradeable, then downgrade. This leaves it with a clean Android 2.1 (minus goapk) which you can then root and do custom ROM or, as I did, then update to Froyo. Worked beautifully for me!
Search theunlockr.com for "how-to-downgrade-the-htc-legend-to-1-31-so-it-can-be-rooted"
thanks a bunch, idasein
finally got rid of the f***er, too, and installed leezoid instead.

Best ROM for my Hero?

Hi guys,
am new to this whole rooting/ROM updating thing.
Would appreciate if someone could guide me to a good ROM for my HERO (currently running stock 1.5)...its an Eastern/Central European version (i.e. has language for Czech, Hungary, Poland etc) and has no market place.
Basically the ROM I am looking for should:
Give market ability
Android 2.1
Fast to use
Give a better/more practical contacts selection option...i.e. the fastest way to select contacts (bypassing having to go through multiple screens!)
Be generally cool and not make me want to buy a new android phone for the next few month!
would also appreciate instructions (or link to) for how to update the ROM.
thanks!
Raidroid seems happiest on my hero from the handful I tried so far
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do you have a link where I can get it from (including instructions)?
thanks
I installed Fresh 2.1.2 a few days ago and am loving it! Looks slick and is fast.
I think in terms of speed, any of the 2.1 roms are great when the hero is overclocked (OC).
I had been using BeHero 1.2+ before the OC patch came out and it was occasionaly sluggish but after I applied the OC patch it is perfect now. LAGLESS
what i really need are links where i can download these things from...from whatever i've found, it seems to be through rapidshare.com which doesn't work...
Latest raidroid is here: http://www.multiupload.com/C54GAT6DLJ
thanks! finally found a site from your link that lets me d/load
Glad to be of assistance, is what we're all here for after all
Whatever ROM you install, I recommend that you install SpellDial to search for your contacts (it is free).
It gives you a T9-style search of your contacts. Type in the name on its telephone keypad and the you will usually get your contact listed within 3 to 4 key presses.
SenseUI already does this.
chachi said:
Glad to be of assistance, is what we're all here for after all
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hello again
now that I finally downloaded this, I don't know how to install it!...
I have an unbranded Hero (i.e. not locked to any network)... do I still need to root my phone first etc?
where can I get instructions on how to install the ROM?
many thanks!
MNK78 said:
hello again
now that I finally downloaded this, I don't know how to install it!...
I have an unbranded Hero (i.e. not locked to any network)... do I still need to root my phone first etc?
where can I get instructions on how to install the ROM?
many thanks!
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yup...you need root access to install ROMs. Google Search on how to unlock your version of the HERO. Good Luck!
What he said.
Google 'how to root HTC hero'
Basically:
allow 3rd party installs, dl and copy the Rom zipfile, flash backup/loading tool and the recovery image to SD, install the tool, run it, backup, then flash the recovery bin to the phone, power off, power back on holding home and power until the green on black text recovery screen comes up, wipe all, then flash from SD and select the raidroid zip
Will take a few mins to flash and reboot, reboot will take a bit longer than usual but that's it in a nutshell.
Good luck ...
ok.. so the day started off with trying to root my hero with the 'one click' unlocker...
finally d/loaded the program, ran it but it somehow couldn't find my android phone (on Win 7)...
wasted a couple of hours on above, then tried it on a WinXP machine... found phone no problem, ran the one-click unlocker and got an error while trying to 'update' (i.e. downgrade ROM)...
so then thought I'd give the 'goldcard method' a go...
followed instructions to the letter...got as far as trying to write the image on the SD card till when I pressed save (on the hex editor) and it gave me a 'cyclic redundancy error'...
not sure what the heck that means!... don't know whether it had anything to do with me not formatting the SD card when sticking it in my PC since WinXP said it needed to be formatted....
however, the instructions didn't say anything about formatting it!... tried to re-insert it and format it but don't get the format option this time....
SD card works fine in phone...
Don't know whether its to do with brand of SD card not being compatible with the 'goldcard' method (San Disk)... read that Kingston works... can't be asked with all the hassle and going out to buy a different one etc etc...
Hoping that a new ROM is released by HTC officially, soon!

[Q] app2sd questions

Hi,
I did a quick search of these forums for some answers to my questions, but I didn't find anything initially so apologies if I missed something...
I currently use a Samsung Galaxy S running on stock firmware, recently updated via Samsung Kies to 2.2.1 and subsequently rooted using v1.7 of the SuperOneClick tool downloaded from this forum. I've come across a website called samfirmware.com which has the Gingerbread incarnation of the Android firmware available for download for my handset (not sure how stable this is though , any thoughts?). I'm OK with flashing new firmware since I've already done this recently on a Samsung Galaxy Europa, so I have some knowledge on this topic.
I would like to test this on my Galaxy S with the aforementioned Gingerbread firmware, but I would like to be able to save some of my apps and their data beforehand. I know that the Froyo incarnation of Android has the so-called app2sd function, but I have a couple of questions about this implementation I would like to ask before I go ahead:
- When you save an app onto the SD card using the built-in function of Froyo does this also save any data that the app has stored since installation (e.g. bookmarks created with the Dolphin HD web browser, levels of Angry Birds completed)? If not how could I go about doing this?
- Hypothetically if I were to save Angry Birds (or any app for that matter) onto my SD card and re-flash the firmware on my Galaxy S, can I then pull Angry Birds (or whichever app I saved) from the SD card back onto the Galaxy S along with all the saved progress/data?
- Are there any other potential issues with this process I should know about, or anything else that I should use or read that might help?
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
Regards,
Jon.
as far as i know, what you want to do is not possible with froyo apps2sd.
but since your device is rooted, you can use TitaniumBackup (can be found in market)

[Q] how to add google apps and the market?

Today I became the owner of one of these babies, but I just found out that in China, I obviously get a chinese model, which does not include google apps, including the market, maps, navigator, etc. Now some of those I may be able to get via my phone, but ideally I would just like to have the market and the google apps suite installed on my device.
Can someone tell me how I can get this sorted? I would imagine this means rooting and flashing a new ROM? Is there another method? I like the whole layout and gui actually, so if I could get a stock US or UK ROM (assuming it includes google apps and market...), then that would serve me just fine...
Any suggestions?
You might be able to use the Google Apps from the Cyanogen page, I'm guessing you'll want the Tegra version shown towards the bottom of the page? http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Latest_Version
I'd download the package, extract and install each app one by one and check that they work with Honeycomb.
Google Apps contain the proprietary Google applications that come pre-installed with most android devices. Due to licensing restrictions, these apps cannot come pre-installed with CyanogenMod and must be installed separately. CyanogenMod does not require Google Apps to function properly, however, to take full advantage of the Android system, Google Apps are recommended.
These apps include Gmail, Maps, and the Android Market, just to name a few. More information can be found here: Google for Android
NOTE: You will need to flash the correct Google Apps for the type of device you have. Please refer to the chart to find out which Google Apps package is needed for the device.
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I'll look into that. thanks.
Now I understand I would have to root my unit, which I have nor problems with doing. I'm using a Mac though. Which ROOT guide should I follow?
Also, if I decide to install a new ROM rather than flash the google app package from cyanogen, which one would be best to choose? I get the feeling there are a couple out there. I see a PRIME v1.2, I see a Ti-X V3, and I read something about blob v4/v5.
Any ideas what I should choose? I would like one that at least gives me the google apps (incl market and maps), but also has all the assets working (wifi, gps, both cameras, etc). It doesn't have to be a complete makeover, stock layout is fine for me.
Someone else will need to give advice on the rom's, I don't even have my Transformer yet. I didn't even consider the flashing aspect, I was just thinking that you could extract the apk's and install them, but that may not be the correct way. Perhaps root and a new rom will be the best option.
There's also a rom over at Modaco, another to consider perhaps.
http://android.modaco.com/category/509/asus-eee-pad-transformer-transformer-modaco-com/
right, so maybe some of the others can tell me the differences between the ROMs available? I think it may be a good idea to start a sticky that summarises what ROMs are available, and what guides to use for rooting and installing ROMs. All including links ofcourse...
Until then if someone could give a heads up on the ROMs available, as asked above, that would be great
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right, so maybe some of the others can tell me the differences between the ROMs available? I think it may be a good idea to start a sticky that summarises what ROMs are available, and what guides to use for rooting and installing ROMs. All including links ofcourse...
Until then if someone could give a heads up on the ROMs available, as asked above, that would be great
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That would be too difficult to keep up with, besides if you read the ROM descriptions it will have the differences listed. Modaco and PRIME! have the latest update included, TI-X doesn't. Modaco has the stock honeycomb icons and PRIME! Asus icons.
Thanks for letting me know.
I found this one online as well: TF101_BLOB_ROOT
It seems to utilise adb to push the ROM onto the unit.
As for the other ones, they seem to utilise CWM. I assume I follow these instructions to get CWM installed?
http://android.modaco.com/content/a...od-recovery-for-the-asus-eee-pad-transformer/
Is that also the latest, or are there more recent versions of CWM for the TF101?
I‘ve got a Chinese model too,and i have the same problem.Actually,i just need Google Market...
Please keep this thread being updated,thanks!

I need a little bit of info.

So ever since I heard about rooting Android devices I innediately done some research on how to do it and I did it. I have had this root on my Samsung Grand Duos for a while now and all I have done is have a few apps (Lucky patcher, Freedom, and Exposed with 1 plugin or w.e) and I am pretty sure I can do far more than just that, so that's why I made this thread. I have a few questions I would like to be answered if you know anything about it.
1) What are customs ROMs and what can I use them for?
2) I am a developer and I have helped make some apps for both iOS and Android, would my root be useful in any way?
3) When I tried to upgrade my version of Android it told me that my version was modified, is there any way I can upgrade to the latest version? And would it remove my root?
4) Is root only compitable with specific versions? Like when a new version comes out, can you root it immediately or do you have to wait for something to do the root process again?
5)My device storage is pretty small and it makes it a pain in the ass to install apps, is there any way that I can edit that? (I am probably going crazy with this. lol)
Thank you.
Bump, would still like some help.
1) 3) 4) a custom Rom is a modified android, mostly based on clean aosp. The example CyanogenMod: you can choose between different Android versions. And with a custom ROM you have great efforts such like theming engine, overclocking or other nice features that are really useful but uncommon in stock ROMs. So I recommended anyone who decides to root his phone to flash a custom ROM neither a stock root
A lot of the info is available on XDA forums, tutorials, and on Google so I suggest you start doing some research as it will help you understand wholly much better...
1 - Custom roms are what nico331999 explained. Modified android firmware made for each specific phone model by developers. Its their take on android and most come with many extra features, themes, launchers, based on different android versions, etc. Cyanogenmod is one the popular ones, but there are a lot more. You would have to search the forums for your specific phone. In order to install a custom rom, root is not enough there are other things you would have to do which you will again need to find out for your phone. Generally speaking you have to unlock the bootloader, install a custom recovery, then flash a custom rom along with gapps.
2 - If you develop apps which utilise root access you can allow them sort of 'admin' access to everything on your phone, so you can perform any task with the app which requires such access. One example is replacing system level apps.
3- If you install a custom rom it will have its own version of Android, usually they are updated versions. You can download the FTF file for the most updated firmware version for your phone and then flash it on your phone. You'll be able to search online for instructions and downloads. A new firmware will remove your root and you will need to root it again. You can search for pre rooted firmwares though to avoid that step.
4 - Yes, you have to search for a rooting method for each firmware version of each phone. Developers (great guys) figure out these methods and post them online for the world!
5 - If your device has SD card support you can install many apps on the SD card to save some space using apps such as Apps2SD or Links2SD. You can move all your media to your SD card. If your device doesn't support SD cards I suggest you move as much data as possible to your computer, and maybe use cloud storage at the same time. Also, since you have rooted your phone, you can use an app like Titanium to uninstall bloatware (unused apps which you cannot usually uninstall).
All of this stuff seems like a handful when you first get into it, but you need to get out there and start researching these topics for it to all fall together in place...
I have to add something with apps to SD: some manufacturers (especially Samsung) have a very weird external storage handling (called emulated storage) which doesn't allow you to move your whole apks. It only saves user data.
ishaang said:
A lot of the info is available on XDA forums, tutorials, and on Google so I suggest you start doing some research as it will help you understand wholly much better...
1 - Custom roms are what nico331999 explained. Modified android firmware made for each specific phone model by developers. Its their take on android and most come with many extra features, themes, launchers, based on different android versions, etc. Cyanogenmod is one the popular ones, but there are a lot more. You would have to search the forums for your specific phone. In order to install a custom rom, root is not enough there are other things you would have to do which you will again need to find out for your phone. Generally speaking you have to unlock the bootloader, install a custom recovery, then flash a custom rom along with gapps.
2 - If you develop apps which utilise root access you can allow them sort of 'admin' access to everything on your phone, so you can perform any task with the app which requires such access. One example is replacing system level apps.
3- If you install a custom rom it will have its own version of Android, usually they are updated versions. You can download the FTF file for the most updated firmware version for your phone and then flash it on your phone. You'll be able to search online for instructions and downloads. A new firmware will remove your root and you will need to root it again. You can search for pre rooted firmwares though to avoid that step.
4 - Yes, you have to search for a rooting method for each firmware version of each phone. Developers (great guys) figure out these methods and post them online for the world!
5 - If your device has SD card support you can install many apps on the SD card to save some space using apps such as Apps2SD or Links2SD. You can move all your media to your SD card. If your device doesn't support SD cards I suggest you move as much data as possible to your computer, and maybe use cloud storage at the same time. Also, since you have rooted your phone, you can use an app like Titanium to uninstall bloatware (unused apps which you cannot usually uninstall).
All of this stuff seems like a handful when you first get into it, but you need to get out there and start researching these topics for it to all fall together in place...
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Thanks a lot, ishaang, you were a lot of help to me.

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