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Hi guys,
I went from loving my Touch Pro to almost throwing it at a wall!
This keyboard slide-out issue is driving me nuts, whenever I want to type something using the hardware keyboard, I slide it out and the damn landscape TF3D menu gets displayed ON TOP of whatever page I'm on.
I've tried the disable landscape registry trick (HKCU\SOFTWARE\HTC\Manila\landscape=false then soft reset) which works... but after a while (a few minutes or after some program or some random thing) it stops working and I have to either reset the phone or turn the reg key back to "true".
Is there any way at all to prevent the keyboard slide showing the landscape menu or at least prevent the menu from being on top of the current app?
For example I go to reply an SMS (I even tried waiting on the cursor to blink a few times, 2 - 3 secs) then slide out the keyboard to type and the stupid 8 icon menu goes on top of my message entry page, I have to choose 'messaging' app from the list of running apps to get back to that page, it really defeats the purpose of having a hardware keyboard!
Thanks guys for reading the rant.
andyle2k said:
Hi guys,
I went from loving my Touch Pro to almost throwing it at a wall!
This keyboard slide-out issue is driving me nuts, whenever I want to type something using the hardware keyboard, I slide it out and the damn landscape TF3D menu gets displayed ON TOP of whatever page I'm on.
I've tried the disable landscape registry trick (HKCU\SOFTWARE\HTC\Manila\landscape=false then soft reset) which works... but after a while (a few minutes or after some program or some random thing) it stops working and I have to either reset the phone or turn the reg key back to "true".
Is there any way at all to prevent the keyboard slide showing the landscape menu or at least prevent the menu from being on top of the current app?
For example I go to reply an SMS (I even tried waiting on the cursor to blink a few times, 2 - 3 secs) then slide out the keyboard to type and the stupid 8 icon menu goes on top of my message entry page, I have to choose 'messaging' app from the list of running apps to get back to that page, it really defeats the purpose of having a hardware keyboard!
Thanks guys for reading the rant.
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What ROM are you currently using?
I had that issue too, I got rid of the theme I was using and stuck to the original HTC theme and I no longer have that problem!
I'm using Da_G's Clean ROM with his standard Manila install afterwards.
I've recently uninstalled the EzInput/T9 package from HTC and it seems to be behaving itself for now (it's been 2 hours with minimal use), like I said before it happens randomly. I don't know if it was because of the EzInput or something else because this seems to go away after every soft reset then comes back unexpectedly.
Thanks.
andyle2k said:
I'm using Da_G's Clean ROM with his standard Manila install afterwards.
I've recently uninstalled the EzInput/T9 package from HTC and it seems to be behaving itself for now (it's been 2 hours with minimal use), like I said before it happens randomly. I don't know if it was because of the EzInput or something else because this seems to go away after every soft reset then comes back unexpectedly.
Thanks.
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I had the issue using the RRE ROMs and ended up removing HTC Volume Control and it solved the problem completely.
Hrm I see to be having the issue again. How do I remove the HTC Volume Control?
I don't have any of this because I dumped the TF3D. Much happier and trouble/issue free without it. Euro device using stock rom.
OK I can confirm that it is the HTC Volume Controls that is causing this!
So from my previous post I tried to uninstall HTC EZinput which seemed to have fixed it but like I originally said the problem seems to happen out of nowhere after some time using the device.
So after reading the post above about HTC Volume Control, I pressed the vol down button, then this problem started happening again. I did a soft reset and no more problem after a while I pressed the vol button again and it happened again!
andyle2k said:
OK I can confirm that it is the HTC Volume Controls that is causing this!
So from my previous post I tried to uninstall HTC EZinput which seemed to have fixed it but like I originally said the problem seems to happen out of nowhere after some time using the device.
So after reading the post above about HTC Volume Control, I pressed the vol down button, then this problem started happening again. I did a soft reset and no more problem after a while I pressed the vol button again and it happened again!
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Check out the ROM in this thread:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467592
This is the ROM I use and the cook has already removed HTC VOLUME CONTROL from the ROM.
Fix
instal the 6.5 volume control from JMZ - problem solved.
link
sorry, here is the link:
http://www.everythingdiamond.info/
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sorry, here is the link:
http://www.everythingdiamond.info/
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but he link that you gave us is for HTC Diamond... not for HTC Raphael...
will the application works on HTC Raphael??
Problem solved!
I had this problem for ages (as long as I have my Raphael, I think), and I couldn't track it down on the internet. Some time ago I found a post on XDA describing the problem but I can't find it again. Finding this post made me think.
I installed the aforementioned "volume control from JMZ" (I had extremely hard time finding it) and I didn't like it because it did something strange with my system font but it solved the problem. After few unsuccessful tries to fix the font (btw does anyone know how to fix this?) I decided to uninstall it. And the problem didn't return.
So what was the problem? Well… when I bought the phone I wanted (as many of you did) to change those ugly taskbar icons including volume icons contained within HTCVolumeControl.dll. And I did it by finding the dll file with the prettiest icons here on XDA (and maybe I changed some of them using the described procedure, I really can't remember now). However, that dll is the main culprit for the bug described in this post. Was it already broken when I found it, or I somehow broke it it's irrelevant now.
So the solution is: you don't have to install anything. Just delete HTCVolumeControl.dll from Windows folder, i.e. rename it using for example Resco File Explorer and then soft reset the device so that original file from ROM can be restored. Yes, the ugly icons will return but at least now you'll now where to look if this bug reappears. After that go and some find pretty volume icons, and again follow the procedure how to change them.
I have no idea how the file got corrupted in the first place (maybe there is some corrupted dll roaming the xda forum ) but after this episode I make changes only directly on the original dll (the one from ROM) and every time it was successful. I changed many icons until I found my favorites.
Cheers!
need help...i'm using htc universal with wm 5.. it seems the top right screen when landscape mode doesnt point what i'm ponting with the stylus, SCREEN CALIBRATE..such as the "x" or "ok" button so i'm often using the "ok" keyboard... so i'm performing hard reset..ohh and after i'm doing hard reset...when it showing the"ALIGN SCREEN" i'm pointing the cross target...and its always continue to ALLIGN SCREEN UNTILL NOW AND ITS BEEN 1 HOUR... CAN ANY BODY HELP ME...PLEASE...
ryan47 said:
need help...i'm using htc universal with wm 5.. it seems the top right screen when landscape mode doesnt point what i'm ponting with the stylus, SCREEN CALIBRATE..such as the "x" or "ok" button so i'm often using the "ok" keyboard... so i'm performing hard reset..ohh and after i'm doing hard reset...when it showing the"ALIGN SCREEN" i'm pointing the cross target...and its always continue to ALLIGN SCREEN UNTILL NOW AND ITS BEEN 1 HOUR... CAN ANY BODY HELP ME...PLEASE...
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Seems your digitizer is gone.
Connect the device in active sync and then try MSP remote allignment.
Use search button, hope you'll find it...
regards
ryan47 said:
need help...i'm using htc universal with wm 5.. it seems the top right screen when landscape mode doesnt point what i'm ponting with the stylus, SCREEN CALIBRATE..such as the "x" or "ok" button so i'm often using the "ok" keyboard... so i'm performing hard reset..ohh and after i'm doing hard reset...when it showing the"ALIGN SCREEN" i'm pointing the cross target...and its always continue to ALLIGN SCREEN UNTILL NOW AND ITS BEEN 1 HOUR... CAN ANY BODY HELP ME...PLEASE...
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maybe the problem is that you dont tap at the screen right.
i had a similar problem before
look closer into the cross, you will see a white dot
tap right into the center and i think that will solve your problem
you just gotta be precise
I had the problem before. You need to change the touch screen,it cost about 20$
Try to shift the screen from horizontal to vertical (i had the same problem with an old rom)
It is hardware failure,that's all.I got one Alpine - xdaIIi like that.
ryan47 said:
need help...i'm using htc universal with wm 5.. it seems the top right screen when landscape mode doesnt point what i'm ponting with the stylus, SCREEN CALIBRATE..such as the "x" or "ok" button so i'm often using the "ok" keyboard... so i'm performing hard reset..ohh and after i'm doing hard reset...when it showing the"ALIGN SCREEN" i'm pointing the cross target...and its always continue to ALLIGN SCREEN UNTILL NOW AND ITS BEEN 1 HOUR... CAN ANY BODY HELP ME...PLEASE...
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buddy your touch sensor is gone.....i have the same issue......here's what you need to do:
Option 1: connect your phone to your pc via activesync, explore to windows directory and delete / rename the file called welcome.exe
Option 2: create a blank file on you pc called welcome.not and place it on the root of your storage card.
Option 3: use the MSP remote alignment.
Some people say event turning the device off then on again will kill the align screen but i can't say cause i haven't tried it.
after you're setup and all good, there would still be some applications that require a 'touch' some place....for that, since you (and i) don't have a touch screen anymore, the best thing to do is to get a MOUSE on your ppc
virtual mouse attached below.....just assign a hardware button to it to turn it on or off at will.....i use backlight button for it.....
P.S: was having some probs in uploading so i've renamed the file to .zip. just rename to .rar if you have problems extracting it
enjoy and PM me if you face anymore problems.
cheers
Hi junooni ,
I hv the same problem with my XDA IIs, and now my phone has been sitting in my drawer for 1 months.
Just some question, the above option that you stated above. After going through your option will the phone still be useable. I mean after that can i still used the phone to make a call since i need to use a remote mouse.
And also do i need to use activesync and connect it to my PC everything i need to use my XDA.
try taking out sim & memory card
i was also stuck on that.. this is how i got it solved, take out sim & memory card and to do it you need to take battery out as sim is under battery then hold two softkeys and reset button at same time and press 0 instead of x . now you should be able to go pass the align screen.... hopefully it helped....
Well.. it didn't help to me.. How can I browse windows directory via activesync? Am I so stupid or it's just invisible or what?
Hey all,
First, I'd like to say that so far the Touch Pro 2 is freaking awesome, but It's been doing something since I got it that is driving me up the wall;
So, say I'm in gsplayer or Opera, and for whatever reason, the screen turns off ( I hit the power button, it times out for power conservation, whatever... ). Whenever I turn the screen back on, the Clock in Touch Flow 3D shows up. GAH >_<
Is there any way to just open the phone back up to what I was looking at when the screen turned off? Help me XDA-Developers, you're my only hope!
-AceSmythe
update:
I went to the home configuration and disabled TouchFlo 3D , and it doesn't revert to the home screen when I reset
Does anyone know how to tell TouchFlo 3D to not re-assert itself every time I turn the screen on? I didn't see anything obvious in the registery
Thanks,
AceSmythe
I have a Touch Diamond 2 and i don't have this problem..
When i just hit the power button to turn the screen off, and 1 minute later when i turn it back on, everything is still the same as i left it. All the programs are still opened.
Maybe you hit the right 'hang up' key?? Because when you press it you go back to the homescreen
I'm pretty sure I know the difference between the power button at the top of the device and the hang up button near the bottom, thanks.
Anyone around who actually has a Touch Pro 2?
I have this issue with my Blackstone, using Duttys 3.9.
I have seen this issue before and as far as i have found out there is no soution to this. The only thing that could help is turning off the Msofts LOCK app. Unfortunately mine is on due to exchange security policy.
If your lock is not on, then im afraid i dont know
timmymarsh said:
... The only thing that could help is turning off the Msofts LOCK app. Unfortunately mine is on due to exchange security policy...
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What does that app do and how would I turn it off?
I also went into the registry and disabled the Home tab for TouchFlo 3D, but the issue persists
( registry entry HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\Configuration\0\Enable , set to 0 )
To any who are curious, this appears to be a viable method of removing Home, Programs, and Settings from the TouchFlo 3D tabs. On my device, 0 is Home, 2 is Programs, and 12 is settings
On another note that's completely unrelated, don't install the SRSwow control panel if you don't have drivers/hardware for it. It completely crippled the speakers and mic on the phone, and Voice Command ( voicecommand.exe ) freaked out whenever I tried to start it. Luckily, removing the software through Start -> Settings -> System -> Remove Programs and doing a full reset fixed everything
( above 2 paragraphs included for people Googling either issue )
Anyway, back to the home screen thing... any other thoughts?
-AceSmythe
acesmythe said:
What does that app do and how would I turn it off?
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If you are using the lock app (which locks the screen) you can turn it off/on by going to (on my HD) settings/all settings/personal/lock and disable it if enabled.
It may not help you, but is a known issue regarding this particular problem.
Greetz.
Have you unchecked the today timeout?
Go to Settings/Personal/Today/Items and make sure it's unchecked.
dwizzy130
dwizzy130 said:
Have you unchecked the today timeout?
Go to Settings/Personal/Today/Items and make sure it's unchecked.
dwizzy130
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Yes and makes no difference, but cheers for the idea.
Yeah, that was the first thing I tried aswell
** Warning **
Do not install the TouchFlo Detacher, it WILL break TouchFlo on your system
See http://freewareppc.com/utilities/touchflodetacher.shtml , then avoid it like the plauge
-AceSmythe
Sorry for the lateness of this post, after a full wipe and reinstall of everything ( after the TouchFlo 3D disaster mentioned above ) the home screen does not assert itself anymore. Per suggestion, I did not enable the lock. I'd test turning on the lock and off again, but I don't want to push my luck
Thanks one and all
-AceSmythe
Mod Edit : No probelms, but no need for the final comment, so I have removed it
Now what would really solve this if you could check the registery to find the key responsible. I will have a look at mine in depth but i fear i will not find it.
Cheers.
acesmythe said:
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Thanks one and all
-AceSmythe
Mod Edit : No probelms, but no need for the final comment, so I have removed it
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I thought the "final comment" was worth a mention, it /was/ kind of insulting
timmymarsh said:
Now what would really solve this if you could check the registery to find the key responsible. I will have a look at mine in depth but i fear i will not find it.
Cheers.
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I've been all up and down that thing and either I'm just ignorant of some term that I should be looking for or there's just no entry for it
Maybe someone could write an app to fix it or a replacement locking app
-AceSmythe
Everyone in this forum (well there are exceptions) and using HD2 have issues with hard buttons, including myself, while working my Proximity Screen Off app, I thought of a completely new way of navigation for HD2!! How about using combination of sensors??
1) Shake to go back to home
2) If proximity sensor blocked less than a second go Back
3) If proximity sensor blocked less than 2-3 seconds and more than 1 second trigger
menu.
4) If proximity sensor blocked more than 3 seconds launch search
Haven't started on this yet, I need to know if this community really needs an app like this. Also please share your ideas!!!
I think it would be awesome, especially to show off
Might cause problems if the screen accidentally comes on while in your pocket.
Otherwise I like the concept.
Seems like that could have a lot of flaws, because wat if the sensor get blocked by accident while navigating through traffic
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itsme_4ucz said:
Everyone in this forum (well there are exceptions) and using HD2 have issues with hard buttons, including myself, while working my Proximity Screen Off app, I thought of a completely new way of navigation for HD2!! How about using combination of sensors??
1) Shake to go back to home
2) If proximity sensor blocked less than a second go Back
3) If proximity sensor blocked less than 2-3 seconds and more than 1 second trigger
menu.
4) If proximity sensor blocked more than 3 seconds launch search
Haven't started on this yet, I need to know if this community really needs an app like this. Also please share your ideas!!!
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Mmmm i dunno i think the seconds issue is a bit difficult bcz not everyone is able to guess how many seconds passed everytime
!
I guess that a navigation based on acceleration values and sensors is a good idea:
I mean say:
1) Shake to go back to home (<--- ur idea excellent)
2) If proximity sensor blocked then trigger menu
3) Positive or negative values of acceleration along Z (vertically) determines going up and down
4) Positive or negative values of acceleration along X (horizontally) determines navigating left or right
I don't know if that can be done and how It's just an idea
Thanks for your effort
I like the shake idea using the g sensor, but the proximity sensor isn't really in an area that is easily accessible with your finger
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mm... interesting idea
but i'm not sure it will be very useful though... for me
I've not had any problems with my hard keys so not sure that this would do it for me.
However I have always thought that albums (photo and music) should go through the pictures/album covers if your device was tilted to the left or right.
On second reading you're not talking about adding this feature to apps are you, just to have some new menu and home ideas!!
is it posible to use gesture on gsensor? like moving your handset in circle to "search", move your phone from right to left to go "back"?
honestly I think this would be impractical and a waste of time.
I like the idea of G Sensor doing things though, like maybe shake to launch an app or an address to map to or something like that.
If you can solve all the technicalities, I believe this would be awesome. I guess the software would have to have a value of:
Locked screen = normal proximity sensor
More than 5 seconds blocked plus angle = call = screen off
On the other hand, what about shake the phone and a bar with soft buttons comes up on the bottom of the screen covering the launcher and not the icons, shake or press a swipe the bar and the bar goes off.
Wish I knew programming.
What about shake phone to wake up?
Not unlock but just wake up as is this is the most used action which involves hardware keys.
***sorry about my english***
indrema said:
What about shake phone to wake up?
Not unlock but just wake up as is this is the most used action which involves hardware keys.
***sorry about my english***
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so your phone is turning on in your pocket when you walk? not good
i'd say do it, but that way that blocking proximity for a tiny bit (very short, like just swype over with hand)) will bring up menu such as Vol +- (overlayed over any app) and it contains back, menu search etc...any block longer will be overlooked(so it's not doing if u sheild ur phone from sunlight or hide it in school(lol)
for waking up u can already use all buttons so shift them.
Nice idea.
I think gestures on screen with fingers are better.(if it's possible)
Like: Move with 2 fingers from right to left would be the same as a click on the "back button".
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Otherwise... i think there are some Apps who have some of these gestures... There might be problems.. :/
Please work on an app for this. That would be awesome. The proximity app is is so useful too
Or maybe just implement most used or just one or two functions like search, back, menu, etc.
Or even better let it be user defineable.
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Not a bad idea...it certainly would be in invention worthy of the name.
And it would also make our lovely HD2s super marvelous!!!!!.......atleast for showing off!!
App Button Savior has all of it. It is faster than using the proximity.
1. This would surely be usefull if you are in a car and must navigate through the menu/programm.
(button savior icons are too small for this if you are in a car)
usefull for back/forward/start programm like google voice etc etc.
2. Option automatic activate the app if the phone is hooked to micro usb.
Hi,
I'm on a Topaz with WinMo 6.5 Hebrew enabled but English interface.
Lately the number keys in the phone application are shifted one row down. I mean' when I press a number, the phone thinks I pressed the number one row below that. (i.e. If I press the place showing 5, an 8 will be dialed)
Oddly the "TALK" button and the "backspace" arrow button next to it do function normally, as does the whole screen in any other application.
My verbal explanation is not so clear, so please see the attachment. A screenshot with explanatory text.
Any idea what could have caused this? or how to fix it?
I was thinking about removing and re-installing the phone application, but don;t know how to do that, so any help in that direction would also be welcome.
Thanks!
~Azaria.
What is the right forum for this question?
It really bothers me, so really want to solve it.