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Hey guys,
I am trying my best not to upgrade to WM6.1 on my SP5..
I love my phone with its factory OS.. Though i am curious to what i am missing out on by staying with WM5.
Can someone give me some advantages of WM6.1 over WM5?
And if i was to upgrade.. Do any of these cooked up versions just install and run without any further tweaking?
Thanks for your input
Hi there,
Please proceed to my blog for step by step instruction
http://karhoe.net/htctornado
Why upgrade to WM6.1?
1) Faster
2) Alot of useless stuff removed
3) Running Net compact framework 2.0/3.5
4) More functions
5) GUI improved
6) Windows Mobile (old one) removed savings extra 4-5MB, so now you can install the latest Windows Live Mobile which has more features as well
7) and many more....
Just go to my blog, follow the steps precisely, and it will work flawlessly.
wow you have me convinced
thanks very much.. especially like the fact you have the same phone as me too!
oh hang on..
the upgrade will work flawlessy? or the OS will?
like Wifi, bluetooth etc all ok?
Everything is perfect, WiFi, BT, etc
But there are some minor bugs, which won't really affect you, you have to check the thread of the cooked ROM.
I suggest this ROM, and the thread is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375670
THREADED MESSAGING ... that's probably my favorite feature on there, something they should've had from the beginning
darthvaderfx said:
THREADED MESSAGING ... that's probably my favorite feature on there, something they should've had from the beginning
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mmmh. That's always the first thing I deactivate after flashing.
I'd upgrade cause it's way faster in accessing applications and loading them, and i like that new sliding homepage
wm6 windows live
Hi
I cannot get any version of wm live to run on your rom Karhoe (wm6.1 platinum). Tried the one on your website too. HELP!
Regards
whats threaded messaging?
Means SMS is like chatting style
well i did the upgrade about a month ago..
i love the sliding panel theme.. though i cant handle the issue with syncing on 2 PCs not working and the issue with dismissing reminders..
I think im going back to the original ROM.
Or would i have more luck with WM6.0?
Karhoe can you recommend a WM6.0 rom and/or a better WM5 ROM than the original i-mate one?
I take it since my phone is now supercid i can just flash away as normal without bothering with formatting the BINFS?
Thanks again for your help.
this one is perfect
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=343358
but only 6.0
just try... nothing to lose...
thanx redred will take look
hmm... got the same problem with dismissing reminders not working with that ROM too..
Reminder comes up.. hit dismiss.. reminds again and again until its actually past the time of the appointment..
sigh.. looks like its back to WM5...
strange...
i'm using appointments 3~4 times in week and everything works ok
Sage said:
hmm... got the same problem with dismissing reminders not working with that ROM too..
Reminder comes up.. hit dismiss.. reminds again and again until its actually past the time of the appointment..
sigh.. looks like its back to WM5...
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It looks like you need to purge outlook on your PC mate. You must have multiple entries for same apointment. I've had a similar problem every now and then, where Outlook fails or I did a Sync on another pc, and when back to main PC, it screws up outlook. Have had to go and view all apointments, birthdays, etc and clean it up manually.
Also, review how you have your settings, ie "Show 2 weeks" if more than that and you have lots of apointments, it'll go crazy on u.
I've used Nitros Platinum Rom for ever and it works great. Am using now SGreg's Rose Rom, also working good(but w/o the extras on Nitros).
Good Luck!
how much better than 6.0
I flashed up to 6.0 when I first got my 2125, am running WM6 standard CE OS 5.2.1616 build 18120.0.4.0, radio 4.1.13.28_02.61.01 RIL 2.002.
I am relatively happy with speed, and all the apps I installed, etc. I am thrilled with the stability and versatility (phone is also my mp3 and movie player, camera, video recorder, messaging system, etc.).
I have heard rumors that the 6.1 ROM drains the battery faster. True?
I have heard rumors that some bluetooth stuff is not as stable?
The reasons I might upgrade include the fact that some software I put on the phone did not completely uninstall and the ROM I am running has very many features I do not want or use and they clutter up everything .
What is the consensus? Is it worth flashing up again?
looks like it was the time sync from network causing the issue.. turned it off now they dismiss without issue!
also i kinda like 6.0 more than 6.1 didnt like the threaded msging and the way you compose in 6.1
the only way I see 6.1 draining the battery faster than 6 on my phone is that 6.1's Media Player doesn't turn off the screen light while playing music. Other than that, I haven't noticed a battery drain.
flashing up to 6.1 from 6.0
Thanks. Which 6.1 "clean" distro should I use? I have collected the .CABs and don't mind re-layering all the apps I use. I would also love to be able to completely uninstall Windows Media player since I run CORE (TCPMP).
Hi everyone
So I am new, not to the forum but new to the Windows Mobile platform. I am so excited about a new device but i've been so irritating to figure out how to remove some items on the today screen (not the start menu). I've repeatedly hard reset the phone hoping to remove some of pre-install softwares from att and samsung (Xpress mail, Instant Messaging, Att mall, Att music, etc). I have no idea how to put more or less item on the today home screen nor remove all those pre-install softwares. You little suggestions are much much appreciated.
If this topic has been asked already, please don't be upset and link me to the that existing threads. Thank you so much for all your help.
'Not new to the forum' (Join Date:Jan 2009), right!
Doing a hard reset will not remove the preloaded garbage from AT&T. That you will have to rip out yourself. You may be able to uninstall some of it from settings/system/remove programs but not likely. Most often you will have to use a file browser and delete the software itself and then do a registry cleanup. Or you can try a tool like SKTools or Pocket Mechanic.
Adding and removing items from your today screen is simple. Go to Settings/Personal/Today and uncheck anything you don't want on your today screen.
If any of this sounds too difficult, you have a lot more reading to do!
Welcome to the forum!
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Hi everyone
So I am new, not to the forum but new to the Windows Mobile platform.
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If in fact you are not new to the forum, then you should know that all the information that you asked about is contained in the wiki. Since you have AT$T, you have a TILT, FUZE ? Look in the wiki for removing bloatware.
Any many other answers to questions unasked.
I have ATT Samsung Epix (unlocked to Tmobile). I have tried several ways from hard reset and soft reset at the customization screen to visit all the folders and delete each individual file doesn't really help. I guess the last step would be using a third party software which will perform this task? or am I missing something?
I have noticed Samsung Epix has more ATT craps than any other phone, it bothers me so much >.<
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I have ATT Samsung Epix (unlocked to Tmobile). I have tried several ways from hard reset and soft reset at the customization screen to visit all the folders and delete each individual file doesn't really help. I guess the last step would be using a third party software which will perform this task? or am I missing something?
I have noticed Samsung Epix has more ATT craps than any other phone, it bothers me so much >.<
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majorassface told you exactly what to do, why don't you read???
Hi derekwilkinson, Go through all folders and delete each individual file won't help to remove these bloatwares completely from the rom nor give me more spaces. Secondly, I took a look at these software majorassface mentioned, and but I haven't tried them yet, I hope they will solve the problem.
P.S. I did my readings, and I tried the all the methods, most likely in the wiki contains no information about the epix. Hard reset and soft reset does not work on epix.
OK, I'm officially frustrated with my ATT Fuze (Raphael). I've looked and looked, but I haven't been able to find a definitive answer...so I need some major help, please.
1) I use my WM Phone to keep me together, business-wise...so I need more than just today's appointment on the home screen. I need something that will integrate my appointments and/or tasks into TF3D, either by altering the home tab, or providing a new one. That's why, after searching, I tried Manila-Today (I think that's name)...it showed promise, but the very things I need (appointments, tasks), it doesn't support. I don't want TF3D-Detached or SecondToday if I can at all avoid it...I want something integrated. Is there a definitive answer for this?
That's the big one I've been researching...for a while now, too. I have a couple of other questions I haven't dug too deeply on (I've been researching the above like crazy!), but I'd love to have answered if someone has the time:
2) I'd like to get rid of the AT&T "trial-/bloatware" that comes on my phone. Does anyone know if the same trick for the tilt works with this device (soft reset after initial set-up, before countdown ends)...and without damaging it?
3) A lot of the things I'm looking at in terms of altering the TF3D requires that you know the version of it, and I'm a bit confused by all the names being bandied about (TF3D, TF3D2, Rhodium version, etc.). How in the heck can I tell what I have? At least that will give me a place to start in terms of adding new tabs, changing that god-awful landscape menu, getting some backgrounds, etc.
Sorry for ranting...it's just that I have this supposedly incredible phone, and I feel that I can't do jack with it. I appreciate anyone's help...thanks.
1. Try SBP Mobile Shell, short of using SecondToday or the Detacher, its the only other inerface that will run in conjunction with TF3D.
The calendar tab does provide some details but there is no appt tab.
2. Yes
3. Go to your settings tab/About, the version is there.
I was like you when I first got my Fuze because the Tilt development had gotten so far and ther was nothing initially available for the Fuze.
Patience, flash a couple of cooked or stripped ROMs and read all you can because it IS a different device with different anomalies, and you'll be lovin' it in no time.
One important one is that the RUU wrapper does not completely wipe the previous ROM, so you can experience bugs if you do not flash back to stock ROM every few flashes.
I have a Sprint TP2 running Winmobile 6.1 and I am considering applying the upgrade to 6.5. I am a fairly new Winmobile user having spent a few years with Palm OS devices having left Winmobile for that. I find Winmobile to be much improved this time around. My TP2 is now running very smoothly since I disabled Push Internet (cab found here...Thank you very much!) Before that I had many freezes and had to hard reset about once a week and apply my backup. (Resco Backup) I also have applied a few other very useful registry hacks that I found here as well that have added to the functionality of my TP2.
I have many 3rd party apps that I love. To name a few of my favorites;
Tom Codon's WiFi Router-So awesome!!!!!!
SK Tools-Indespensible to me for keeping my TP2 running smoothly
Elecont Weather for the Today screen
Elecont Launcher for the Today screen
pmClean
Skype
Skyfire
Qik
I don't use TF3D as I prefer to have the info that I wish to see at a glance on my screen so I use the traditional Today screen and with Elecont Launcher I am able to launch the apps that I use most frequently right from my Today screen. Plus, it's a bit of a memory hog and I prefer my phone to be snappy. I suffer from memory OCD-always looking to see how much memory I am using! Currently I run around 34%-40%.
My questions are;
1) If I upgrade to 6.5 will I still be able to have the traditional Today screen like I have with 6.1?
2) Will I gain an appreciable amount of other benefits to make it worth the work of installing the new rom, reinstalling all of my apps, and setting up all of the other settings the way I like them? (and if so, what are they?)
3) Are there any apps that I listed that you know won't function on 6.5?
Lastly, I just really wish to thank you all for your work! I really love this forum!
Thanks in advance for your input!
Geo
I would love to know too. I use SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, so the upgrade to Sense 2.5 if of no use to me.
Will 6.5 offer any stability or speed improvements?
Thanks!
Do it!
Just make the "tweaks" you need.
I think one of the only benefits you will gain in 6.5 is some of the features are more touch friendly. Everything you mentioned should work fine in the upgrade also. If you want to improve the touch friendliness you could also install some themes which skin winmo (so you don't have to hard reset, re-install, etc).
If you do decide to go w/ 6.5, customization won't be too difficult if you use programs like resco and XDA UC Customize. IN my experience, the stock 6.1 ROM is about the most stable available once all tweaks are applied.
I upgraded from Verizon 6.1 to Verizon 6.5.
I have regreted it and when I'm in the mood for a hard reset, I will go likely back to 6.1.
I've had a lot of incompatabilities. I prefer using the Today screen, but a number of my prefered apps fail or cause lockup issues that I never had before. So generally, I am stuck with using the Sensui 2.1 interface, which is very limiting IMHO.
Can't say if the Sprint version is as poor.
worwig said:
I upgraded from Verizon 6.1 to Verizon 6.5.
I have regreted it and when I'm in the mood for a hard reset, I will go likely back to 6.1.
I've had a lot of incompatabilities. I prefer using the Today screen, but a number of my prefered apps fail or cause lockup issues that I never had before. So generally, I am stuck with using the Sensui 2.1 interface, which is very limiting IMHO.
Can't say if the Sprint version is as poor.
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in my experience the vzw 6.5 is no good. Try one of the custom 6.5 you will probably have a much better experience.
Wow! Thanks for all of the input!
Well...with much fear and trepidation, I went. I found that I could still use the traditional Today screen and all of the apps that I was using on 6.1. Heck, I was even able to use Elecont Launcher even though it isn't supported for 6.5. Funny thing on the way to all of that though...after playing with the HTC Sense UI I found that I can customize it more than I could TF3D and I'm pretty happy with it over using the traditional Today screen. I will use it until I get bored, then I'll try a custom rom. (Hehe...3 mos?) I need to learn more about those before I take that leap though!
Thank you all so much for weighing in!
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Well...with much fear and trepidation, I went. I found that I could still use the traditional Today screen and all of the apps that I was using on 6.1. Heck, I was even able to use Elecont Launcher even though it isn't supported for 6.5. Funny thing on the way to all of that though...after playing with the HTC Sense UI I found that I can customize it more than I could TF3D and I'm pretty happy with it over using the traditional Today screen. I will use it until I get bored, then I'll try a custom rom. (Hehe...3 mos?) I need to learn more about those before I take that leap though!
Thank you all so much for weighing in!
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Welcome to WinMo 6.5 and Sense. Here are some nice links:
Mods for Sense UI **make sure you download the correct version of Sense Mods, check your version in device info**
Themes and Apps sorted by most viewed (popular)
Also, you might wanna check out SPB Mobile Shell, its a great software that allows you to customize up to 5 screens with widgets, programs and system settings icon. SPB Mobile Shell
Very nice! I can't wait until I can check the Sense mods out! Thank you! I tried SBP Mobile Shell when I had 6.1 and didn't love it. It's a nice program...it just didn't do it for me. Maybe I'll have another look at it though now that I have a little more experience with Winmobile and have switched to 6.5.
For the record...I am not finding a good enough reason to have not made the switch to 6.5 from 6.1 on the Sprint TP2. Still a little buggy here and there but who's to say I didn't do that to myself with some free app that I installed. Hey, that's why I have a backup, right? In fact, I think that if you have any Winmobile and don't have a backup program with a new back up every few days, you might be being foolish. Ultimately, you should make notes attached to each backup to remind yourself at what point your were at in terms of apps and tweaks. Unless of course you are one of these developers and are really smart and can easily get yourself out of a jam without spending hours and hours online searching for solutions and reloading and resetting up you phone...ugh! Anyway...Sprint's 6.5 is prettier and not really worse than 6.1 IMHO. I'd do it again.
A couple of things thing that I am curious about though...After installing 6.5, all of my programs, and getting the settings dialed in, I ran a back up with Resco Backup's latest version. I got dialogue box stating that I had 22 errors (all looked like registry entries) all relating to Twitter. When I performed an "Integrity Check" of the backup, it stated that there are no errors. They don't show up in "Invalid Registry Entries" in SK Tools either. Now I don't care if Titter works or not. I don't use it. It's just strange.
Also, I installed the NoPushInternet and SSK TP2 Dynamic Resource Proxy cabs expecting a performance change like I saw with NoPushInternet alone with 6.1. After installing NoPush with 6.1 I was at 32% with TF3D disabled following a reset. After some heavy use I would see it bloat to around 48%. The numbers were roughly 10% more respectively with TF3D enabled. With 6.5 I am at 41% coming of a reset with Sense disabled and 50% with it enabled. However, I noticed this morning it bloated up to 86%! I can't remember what I went to do and got a dialogue box stating that I didn't have enough memory to perform the task so I looked to see how much Ram I was using. I wonder if some possible culprits are;
The 5 different cities that I get weather data for all needing to sync @ 15 min intervals?
Location services all together?
Being signed in to Facebook by default?
Animated wallpaper?
All of the above?
I find that simply sliding along the icons and pausing at each in Sense makes the memory usage spike to 58% and settle back at 54%. Navigating to and from Settings, going back an forth to email, taking a few calls, and I am up in the mid 60%'s. Maybe this is to be expected and these numbers are considered good...or maybe I just need a more efficient rom. I guess that in keeping with Microsoft's long standing tradition (pre-Win7), the newer OS is heftier than the last! I just hope this thing can keep up with me! Maybe just some Sense mods will do the trick. If I were to install a new rom, can anyone suggest a high quality one that is a good fit for a Sprint user? I don't want to risk loosing any of my Sprint stuff. Sprint TV, Sprint acct info, etc. I am not sure how all of this works with cooked roms and specific carriers. Sorry to be such a noob. I have also considered overclocking the processor. Not sure how risky that is but I do have Sprint's damage replacement coverage. I haven't found instructions for that yet specific to the Sprint TP2 but I do want to play around with that and see what happens. I realize I have asked a lot of questions here. If anyone can take a stab at all or part I will appreciate it. I notice that some (or all?) developers will take a donation (or tip) for help. I am willing to do so in exchange for good help in getting my Sprint TP2 smokin' fast, (more) app filled, and reliable. I may be suffering from a sickness...I can't seem to leave well enough alone! The amount of donation being relative to the amount of help, of course. I did just make my 20 Euro donation to the main effort. I am glad that I did...I certainly have benefited from visiting this forum more than any other forum.
Also, if I am supposed to post a new thread (or threads!) since I have veered off track here, please let me know. I will cut/paste it in a new one(s). I want to behave myself accordingly.
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I have a Sprint TP2 running Winmobile 6.1 and I am considering applying the upgrade to 6.5. I am a fairly new Winmobile user having spent a few years with Palm OS devices having left Winmobile for that. I find Winmobile to be much improved this time around. My TP2 is now running very smoothly since I disabled Push Internet (cab found here...Thank you very much!) Before that I had many freezes and had to hard reset about once a week and apply my backup. (Resco Backup) I also have applied a few other very useful registry hacks that I found here as well that have added to the functionality of my TP2.
I have many 3rd party apps that I love. To name a few of my favorites;
Tom Codon's WiFi Router-So awesome!!!!!!
SK Tools-Indespensible to me for keeping my TP2 running smoothly
Elecont Weather for the Today screen
Elecont Launcher for the Today screen
pmClean
Skype
Skyfire
Qik
I don't use TF3D as I prefer to have the info that I wish to see at a glance on my screen so I use the traditional Today screen and with Elecont Launcher I am able to launch the apps that I use most frequently right from my Today screen. Plus, it's a bit of a memory hog and I prefer my phone to be snappy. I suffer from memory OCD-always looking to see how much memory I am using! Currently I run around 34%-40%.
My questions are;
1) If I upgrade to 6.5 will I still be able to have the traditional Today screen like I have with 6.1?
2) Will I gain an appreciable amount of other benefits to make it worth the work of installing the new rom, reinstalling all of my apps, and setting up all of the other settings the way I like them? (and if so, what are they?)
3) Are there any apps that I listed that you know won't function on 6.5?
Lastly, I just really wish to thank you all for your work! I really love this forum!
Thanks in advance for your input!
Geo
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I did the 6.5 update to my Sprint Touch Pro 2 and installed the Tom Codon's WiFi Router and it works perfect. I can't speak to the other aps you are using.
Yea I don't like the stock SPB Mobile, I use espresso mod. You can find most of theSPB Mods here.
I noticed a similar "buggy" experience when switching over to vzw's 6.5 ROM. It worked, but it never seemed as smooth as 6.1. Sprint Auto-Clean/Tweak is a CAB that does just about every tweak to improve performance. Maybe this will help with your RAM %s, but they seem very similar to what I experience (Sense UI ~ 50% idle, 60% after a day of usage, specs below in sig). I'm not really sure what is causing your memory spike, maybe try some of these tweaks and see if it still happens.
Backups are important, but more important is making sure you downloaded something that is compatible with your hardware/software and that you read the thread/readme before installing it. If you do those there should be no need for a backup.
As for a custom ROM, I am not aware of any that include those sprint apps. Check out http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=98 for some custom ROMs.
About the overclocking, I believe our processor is an overclocked tp processor, so i'm not sure how much more we can get out of it.
Personally i'd say you are capable enough of doing this all yourself, so be confident and take the necessary steps of reading beforehand.
Thank you burtonsnow8. I appreciate your answers and your confidence in me. I'll continue to mine the forums!
Ok, I was wondering if anyone out there possibly knows (without flashing to custom rom) how to uninstall verizon's junk off the omnia i920. I tried bunch of custom roms and while they were good, each one of them had bugs. I tried to build my own last night without any luck whatsoever.
I know there has to be some work around where I can take the verizon stuff off. Or could someone tell me what I did wrong when I built my own rom...
I used Wozzers i920 kitchen. I hit buildos and then pressed the play button and it put files into OEM, SYS, and all those other folders. I went through and deleted some stuff in the OEM, SYS folders and made sure initfiles was clear of them as well as the rgu, but when I flashed my phone it wouldn't go past the verizon wireless screen.
Am I totally missing something? I tried taking out the following: All VZW bloat (games, nav, cityid, vvm, songid, Vcast and I'm sure a couple others), Bing, Office One Note, Excel, PowerPoint, Samsung Widgets, Windows Live and Opera.
Is there an exact step by step thread or threads to help me out, because I checked out modaco...was I supposed to drop the .nbo file back into buildos? I am so lost and I would love to get the VZ junk off.
Thanks in advance..I know this is alot to ask for...but I'm just wanting to remove a couple things and this phone would be perfect then.
In my opinion, the 'bugs' in most of the custom ROMs are less objectionable than the bugs in the stock ROM.
Have you tried Ninja4Hire's ROM? He uses builds that are inherantly more stable, 6.5 as opposed to 6.5.x.
I prefer his XDA version 7, so far. My phone is now the fastest I have ever had, and trouble free except for occasional added software conflicts.
You will need to read up a lot (at Modaco) and start practicing to figure out cooking your own ROMs, but there is quite a bit of help over there.
Yeah I have ninja's v7 rom on my phone now and something is going on with the sound when i get a text message. I'm going to try Amdzeros lite rom here shortly...i didn't have issues with text sounds until today so I don't know what I possibly done to get the sound not working.
I try to read up at modaco, and I joined that forum but I cannot post anything there or click links. I tried contacting the admins there but noone ever got back to me.