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Can sumone theme the applanet app?light blue? And make it a flashable zip, I can't use advanced thanx in advance.....
Fresh matted EVO...
support devs. dont steal
rotnezi said:
Can sumone theme the applanet app?light blue? And make it a flashable zip, I can't use advanced thanx in advance.....
Fresh matted EVO...
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This is like asking if someone can spray paint your stolen car or something....hahahahahaha....I don't think is going to happen unless you find someone with the same ethics as you or if you do it yourself!
My advice, support developers because that's the only way to get updates for your favorite apps and for the android community to continue moving forward!
mazdarider23 said:
This is like asking if someone can spray paint your stolen car or something....hahahahahaha....I don't think is going to happen unless you find someone with the same ethics as you or if you do it yourself!
My advice, support developers because that's the only way to get updates for your favorite apps and for the android community to continue moving forward!
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Lol. Nice analogy.....
civicsr2cool said:
support devs. dont steal
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If its worth buyin I do so I can get updates, the only apps I steal r from installous bcus it annoys apple :-D ,I luv my EVO and all the devs
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mazdarider23 said:
This is like asking if someone can spray paint your stolen car or something....hahahahahaha....I don't think is going to happen unless you find someone with the same ethics as you or if you do it yourself!
My advice, support developers because that's the only way to get updates for your favorite apps and for the android community to continue moving forward!
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Hahaha
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I don't agree with appplanet app but man 15 min on market for paid apps without a free version to try out is not enough time. Wish it would go back to the24 hr deal
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This is like asking if someone can spray paint your stolen car or something
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I own a company that paints stolen cars if anyone is interested. We also do VIN changes and provide matching titles. If anyone is interested send me a PM with your address and your cars make, model, year and license plate #. I will have someone pop on over and grab it within a day!
damn this is the most crybaby sites on the net they should send out bottles to the captain save a hoes. pm me Ill make you one. Oh wait just download my avatar
It would probably be best if you just left us crybabies all alone here at the site by ourselves so we can console each other. Maybe a different site without developers in the title would be better for a feisty pirate such as yourself.
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please help support conflict diamonds...
i just came into roughly 71.35 carats of conflict/blood diamonds.i need someone to build me a website and a brick and mortar as well to help boost distribution of my gems and help make me richer.pay rate is $0.00/hr,however you can rest knowing that you have helped a great individual find loving homes for all of these beautifully bloody conflict diamonds.
THX
Jclintcox said:
It would probably be best if you just left us crybabies all alone here at the site by ourselves so we can console each other. Maybe a different site without developers in the title would be better for a feisty pirate such as yourself.
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and waht have you done contribution wise I bet you dont even donate to devs I do and to xda so STFU
You donate to XDA? I don't see any stars under your name...
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i just came into roughly 71.35 carats of conflict/blood diamonds.i need someone to build me a website and a brick and mortar as well to help boost distribution of my gems and help make me richer.pay rate is $0.00/hr,however you can rest knowing that you have helped a great individual find loving homes for all of these beautifully bloody conflict diamonds.
THX
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That's very interesting! I was just contacted this morning via email by the Prince of Nigeria and he made me a similar offer! I'll contact him and make arrangement for all three of us to meet up and discuss health and dental benefits if any...hahahahahahhahahaha
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Your transaction ID for this payment is: 6PG764823K6237302.
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thats jus my last one stars dont mean nothing EAFD
ask magnus up there if i donated ask cyanogen alls i wanted to do is stir pot and watch the reactions and now im sitting here LMFAO you probably don't donate cuz your on your moms computer meanwhile I'm cisco certified
Please
Guys Guys Please no fighting over me
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Ricardo, you just completed your payment.
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thats jus my last one stars dont mean nothing EAFD
ask magnus up there if i donated ask cyanogen alls i wanted to do is stir pot and watch the reactions and now im sitting here LMFAO you probably don't donate cuz your on your moms computer meanwhile I'm cisco certified
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Who gives a rat's ass dude if you're cisco certified?! I bet I can still kick your ass..hahahahahaha....Cisco or no Cisco..LOL
Fool you don't know me ill make you beg for mercy you internet mouther you lucky you not from my city boy I'll teach you a lesson
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damn this is the most crybaby sites on the net they should send out bottles to the captain save a hoes. pm me Ill make you one. Oh wait just download my avatar
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I'm pretty sure this thread can be closed now....
Although I had a good time seeing dozen boy make himself look like an ass.
Now back to android development
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UPDATE:
Fist of all, BIG thanks to all that donated! This was a very awesome and unselfish thing that you all were a part of. As all of you might have read, and in case you didn't, morfic said:
"Thanks everyone, I'll be working on things this weekend, just gotta stay out of trouble with wife, so no feature promise.
In case anyone else feels compelled to still donate: Think who really helped you, find their donate button and donate to them!"
Thanks,
Daniel
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With all that being said I will talk to him later and see what the plan is for the first release. Check back here for updates all this weekend. If you don't already, I recommend that all the donators follow http://twitter.com/#!/morfique. Updates will probably be posted there sooner than here.
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Anyone interested in getting into a dev fund? I was considering trying to get a G2X for Morfic. Thought? Questions? Comments?
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i would gladly donate a few dollars to help the great morfic get this phone but we have to come up with some sort of benefit for the people that dont know what he does or have never used his work.....
Very true sir. Hmmmmm what to do what to do.......
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Very true sir. Hmmmmm what to do what to do.......
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id say only people that donate to him can use the pre released beta/alpha kernels he makes....
but that never really seems to work and get alot of interest...
(EDT/TW websites)
i think maybe every dollar we donate to him he should also add to the pot...
i.e. i donate 15 bucks he puts in 15 bucks
so its not all of the community paying for his device just helping him
or maybe he should send out thank you android cards made from his blood and sweat to anyone that donates.....
lol i dunno but i will for sure donate thats all that matters i guess
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id say only people that donate to him can use the pre released beta/alpha kernels he makes....
but that never really seems to work and get alot of interest...
(EDT/TW websites)
i think maybe every dollar we donate to him he should also add to the pot...
i.e. i donate 15 bucks he puts in 15 bucks
so its not all of the community paying for his device just helping him
or maybe he should send out thank you android cards made from his blood and sweat to anyone that donates.....
lol i dunno but i will for sure donate thats all that matters i guess
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I'm down. I don't give a damn who benefits from my "donation". I got 15 on it.
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I'm down. I don't give a damn who benefits from my "donation". I got 15 on it.
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looking good so far
Count me in
Count me in, not only is he a great kernel developer but he's a real good guy.
Yes he is a great dev. I'll set up a fund somewhere, let me see what i can do. Might not get to this tonight but i will get to it. I have been talking to him all day today and he is a great guy. Just for the record I will probably be throwing in 50 bucks myself.
I would like to ask you people if you have time, can you try to help spread the word?
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Yes he is a great dev. I'll set up a fund somewhere, let me see what i can do. Might not get to this tonight but i will get to it. I have been talking to him all day today and he is a great guy. Just for the record I will probably be throwing in 50 bucks myself.
I would like to ask you people if you have time, can you try to help spread the word?
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I will definitely help spread the word as much as I can.
In terms of a fund, why don't you have one of the mods here hold onto it. Mikey1022 and Ryanmo5 are good guys. That way people knew it was going to the right cause Just a thought
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jlevy73 said:
I will definitely help spread the word as much as I can.
In terms of a fund, why don't you have one of the mods here hold onto it. Mikey1022 and Ryanmo5 are good guys. That way people knew it was going to the right cause Just a thought
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Good idea jlevy! I dont want anything to get out of control with this.
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Good idea jlevy! I dont want anything to get out of control with this.
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contacted mikey1022 as he was "scolding me" for using naught words
think he might have some more insight to this... (sorry if someone already contacted him about this)
Early Thank you.
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contacted mikey1022 as he was "scolding me" for using naught words
think he might have some more insight to this... (sorry if someone already contacted him about this)
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Unfortunately mikey1022 will be out of town for a couple of weeks. Ryanmo5 is another good one.
Just sent pm to ryanmo
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id say only people that donate to him can use the pre released beta/alpha kernels he makes
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Agree with this! Maybe make a Facebook group like TW/EDT.
TW once release a built exclusive to the FB group and everyone respected it and there was no leaks!
Just a thought!
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Agree with this! Maybe make a Facebook group like TW/EDT.
TW once release a built exclusive to the FB group and everyone respected it and there was no leaks!
Just a thought!
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Based on my geek level, a dropbox.access on.a.shared folder if people prefer this added benefit, I can do similar over mailing list to unpublished links on my host.
Not much of a fb guy.
Anything like that sound cool?
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I'm in morfic is the Morpheus of his soon to be g2x....lets get him one we need him guys
im in for 15 as well. i havent personally used any of his work since i've never owned a vibrant, but i've certainly heard a lot about him.
always feels good to help out someone who can help us out as well.
Some of you may or may not know ckisgen, the developer of the Royal Ginger rom for the glacier. If you don't know of him or his rom, head on over to the glacier forums and take a look at how popular him and his rom is. He is an unbelievable developer and would push the g2x to it's max. He has agreed to develop for the g2x if we can all get together to get him a g2x. So if everyone wants to see this phone reach it's full potential, lets get ckisgen a phone!
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You forgot to mention how much you have already donated.
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You forgot to mention how much you have already donated.
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Nothing has been donated yet. I want to start this thread to see if anyone is interested and then figure out how we would go about doing it. If everyone that is interested would say how much they are willing to donate, then we could figure out how to go about it. I have never done this before so I don't know if we just donate everything to him directly, or if there is someone highly trusted to gather all of the money for the phone and send it to ckisgen?
It's just a thought. He would be a great dev for this phone IMO. This thread is for everyones opinions and ideas about it.
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I have seen his work and I'm down!
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I have seen his work and I'm down!
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Count me in for $10
sent from Abbottabad, Pakistan with no internet connection
In for $10
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I'm also in, but the amount will depend on how much money I have at the time.
I'm in also. Amount TBD
OUCH!! KFI=KANG BUREAU of INVESTIGATION
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I post here to expose all KANGs and calling them out. I have been a long time lurker of this forum. Currently they are too many KANG artists here on XDA diluting the quality of developers here. RoyalGinger, what kind of name is that? I've been following his KANG of CM7 for a while now. What has he innovated that wasn't already coded by Team Douche? People need to wake up to the fact that he simply re-compiles what Team Douche has already done. Now he's asking for donation so he can KANG Team Douche even more than what he's already done so with MyTouch 4G? Mark my word, he will NOT add any innovation to G2x forum if he "develops" for this phone. He will always "Kang" Team Douche's work again for G2x. If you guys want real innovation, donate to Team Douche instead of this "Kang" artist.
RoyalGinger, how cocky can one be by calling a CM7 kang as some kind of royalty. I would give him more respect if he calls it RoyalKang
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I'm sorry but you do not belong in this thread. And before you go talking bad about developers and falsely accusing them of kanging, maybe you should do some more research. I used both CM7 and Royal Ginger and my phone had much better performance and stability with Royal Ginger. How about you talk to ckisgen directly before trying to ruin his reputation for some reason that doesn't even exist.
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I'm sorry but you do not belong in this thread. And before you go talking bad about developers and falsely accusing them of kanging, maybe you should do some more research. I used both CM7 and Royal Ginger and my phone had much better performance and stability with Royal Ginger. How about you talk to ckisgen directly before trying to ruin his reputation for some reason that doesn't even exist.
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Haha, I love it when people claim how good the so call "kang artist" but without proof to back it up. He "optimized" CM7? What kind of "optimization" did he perform? Why do you need to optimize CM7 when it is already optimized? I am calling him out because so far he has not shown any proof he "wrote" code to optimize CM7 code. So show me what he did in the "code" to make RoyalKang better than CM7? Tweaking CM7 settings is not innovation. Now I throw the ball back to your court. Show me what he did to optimize Team Douche's work. This is open source correct? So your so call developer can show me his "code" that he optimized CM7 source code. Unless he shows people what he did to "optimize" Team Douche's code, I still stand by my claim. I love to be proved wrong, show me the code!
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Well KangExposer has a point. I never owned the G2 but looking at the Royal Ginger thread there is no source code. Isn't that a violation of XDA's GPL policy?
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Well KangExposer has a point. I never owned the G2 but looking at the Royal Ginger thread there is no source code. Isn't that a violation of XDA's GPL policy?
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This is a thread regarding the bringing over of a fantastic developer. All questions regarding a roms details should be directed to that roms developer.
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Towle said:
This is a thread regarding the bringing over of a fantastic developer. All questions regarding a roms details should be directed to that roms developer.
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This is a thread requesting *money* to support a dev who is making changes to the code made available freely and publicly by CM7, and then not publishing his 'optimizations' (that could theoretically be merged back into main CM7 if they're worth it)
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This is a thread requesting *money* to support a dev who is making changes to the code made available freely and publicly by CM7, and then not publishing his 'optimizations' (that could theoretically be merged back into main CM7 if they're worth it)
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+1.
Why not just directly contribute to CM7?
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This is a thread requesting *money* to support a dev who is making changes to the code made available freely and publicly by CM7, and then not publishing his 'optimizations' (that could theoretically be merged back into main CM7 if they're worth it)
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Can you tell me the name of a rom that isn't, or a dev that doesn't? Why doesn't everyone just donate to google then?
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What does "kang" mean?
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Kang basically means to steal someone's work and say it's your own.
I just wanted to let everyone know that this guy who thinks he knows everything, really knows nothing. He is someone who is unhappy with his life and is taking it out on these forums. First of all, if this was something that was true, CM would have taken him down a looong time ago! This guy has been trolling the forums talking down on the developers, and has absolutely no proof or facts to back up what he is saying. I was following his posts, and happened to see that ckisgen also saw one of his posts in a different forum saying RG is a kang of CM7.
Please read what ckisgen had to say, this alone is proof that this guy is talking out of his arse:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...&postcount=109
Back on topic. We really need to get ckisgen over here! I have been rooting phones since the G1 and have NEVER used a rom on a phone that made it run as smooth and fast as Royal Ginger! And his kernels, unbelievable! He is an awesome developer. Not only does he make a great rom and kernel, he provides excellent support and really works hard to make everything perfect.
I love my new G2x, and cannot imagine it without Royal Ginger. This phone would become something nobody could ever imagine. Anything you would ever want in a vanilla Android rom, and from a developer.. ckisgen is the answer! I plan on having this phone for a while, and I'm sure a lot of you do as well. If when you bought your G2x and the T-Mobile rep or whoever you bought it from said for X amount of dollars extra we can make this phone a whole lot better and provide continuous updates and always be adding in the latest and greatest features, would you do it? I know I would.
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Well KangExposer has a point. I never owned the G2 but looking at the Royal Ginger thread there is no source code. Isn't that a violation of XDA's GPL policy?
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it is listed at the top of the OP and in his changelogs
vqt said:
it is listed at the top of the OP and in his changelogs
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still can't find it, but there is a lot in the OP
I'm providing this service for HTC Radar 4G and HTC EVO Shift 4G, as I own both phones.
I am the owner of http://gaigetech.com and Gaigetech, and wanted to give thanks to the custom developers of my phones.
Disk Space - 500MB
Bandwidth - "Unlimited"
1 FTP Account - "here.gaigetech.com" - port 21
1 Sub-Domain - "here.gaigetech.com"
1 Email - "[email protected]"
Though I need each developer to send me in an application
at "[email protected]"
Containing
Name
Email
Proof that you're a developer
Why you would like the hosting
I will reply if you're accepted and I will request further information after that.
I only accept accounts being using for hosting. If anytime this is violated I will suspend that account until the issue resolved. Repeat offense get account banned and no future for an account.
I do ask you mention Gaigetech as you hosting provider but no link back is necessary.
I ask you not to upload source code(that you wish not to share) or other sensitive files to this hosting as it will accessible to the public.
Hope you guys use it, thank you again!
Hey this is cool dude
I'm not a dev but I'm sure they will really like this a lot
Big thanks to you for making an effort to the community in different way
This is sediment, devs will appreciate this
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Thank you, it is appreciated
Good deal. The Shift community thanks you.
thanks for the positive feedback guys!
Can't wait till some developers sign-up
Does this apply for themes and mods as well? Dropbox and mediafire have been slower than molasses in january lately...
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Hell why not
I hate to double post :/
but no one wants free hosting!
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I hate to double post :/
but no one wants free hosting!
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Give it time. Im sure the devs will use it but they have to actually release something first its only been a week give it a couple months and devs will start to use it
I got hours worth of themes and mods ported and tested ready to upload... I'm waiting on dev approval. Once I get the go ahead ill be in contact.
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drob311 said:
I got hours worth of themes and mods ported and tested ready to upload... I'm waiting on dev approval. Once I get the go ahead ill be in contact.
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I like the sound of that.
themes for what exactly
where exactly do i go to get approval and all that i want to get rid of multiupload for my themes
just send me a pm
So how much money have u made rooting peoples phones, or installing roms? Some devs may frown upon this considering they do all this work for free and make nothing. If i gave my work away for free on the web i wouldnt want it hosted on the same site that someone charges people to install my work when u could be courteous and point them to the step by step tutorial on how to root, install recovery, roms etc..
Not tryin to be a jerk just statin my thoughts.
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m0j0j0j0 said:
So how much money have u made rooting peoples phones, or installing roms? Some devs may frown upon this considering they do all this work for free and make nothing. If i gave my work away for free on the web i wouldnt want it hosted on the same site that someone charges people to install my work when u could be courteous and point them to the step by step tutorial on how to root, install recovery, roms etc..
Not tryin to be a jerk just statin my thoughts.
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I root phones for people and charge them $20 bucks if they dont want to attempt it. Matter of fact, i know quite a few people who charge to root and mod phones, because most people arent into hacking their phones.
It really is none of your business what someone does and how much they make at THEIR business... I see where you are coming from with the whole hosting roms and themes thing, but whats the difference if he charges them and uses his site or if he charges them and downloads the theme or rom from xda?
The devs know what people are doing, and if they wanted to charge people for their work they could, and majority of us would pay.
Since when did we have a conscience police around here?
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We don't charge for the root software or roms, we charge for the labor. Even then I have a close friend of mine who develops his own root methods for GAIGETECH to use and then we use a rom the customer chooses, and which we usually suggest CM7 if applicable.
The reason why I decided to host roms/themes/mods for the evo shift is because I own a evo shift. This was my way of saying thanks to the developers and helping the evo shift community. I don't intend on stealing their material as source code SHOULDN'T be stored on my server.
Hey more power to u godman, I appreciate the response. I don't mean to be a jerk or come across as condescednding.
That's cool that ur offerin space. Is ur server dedicated? How much space/ bandwidth do u haven.
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The server is dedicated and more space than I know what to do with lol. The server is owned by www.pingpulse.net, whom I work for. I get all the server space I want and bandwidth I want.
thank you for finding the thread, if an admin/mod can, could delete the old one I'd greatly appreciate it
Since original thread was closed (just as I said it would even without a good reason) as I was typing answer below
I feel obliged to answer it here
Well, looks like it is. Any criticism of xda is not tolerated here, and this thread will lead to criticism.
If you still care for my opinion...
No, sharing is not xda spirit anymore, well at least not for some people. Popularity and donations is, by the looks of it.
I do not say that this applies to everyone, only to certain people, and it looks like xda supports it in general.
And members cannot express their view if their view goes against what xda likes to hear.
SOPA anyone?
Just saying
If you decide to post something in this thread, please consider that there should be no flaming, profanities etc, so xda does not have good grounds to close it.
matmar said:
Members can express their view and i do not think it is pointless or against xda rules...it is ? If yes i apologize by advance....
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....sigh....
Well, for me it's another sad sad day for XDA.
I'm "really" thinking HTC should step in, collect THEIR assets once and for all.
This is never going to stop this way. This was (yes was) a sharing community, and honestly is doesn't feel like a community anymore.
For me, and I regret to say this, the only real solution for this is when HTC relocks their bootloaders so custom roms become a thing from history.
There's just too much showing off, whining this, whining that and all other crap going on.
And really what is the point??
We are all in the same boat, wanting the exact same thing!
I just cannot understand this.
We buy HTC especially for this line of "work".
People should think twice or even five times before letting their d... deside.
Anyway, my 2 cents (IC's )
Lol, you should have known it would happen.
Peeps, let's keep it social here.
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conantroutman said:
....sigh....
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sigh is right! We're all sighing!
tinky1 said:
Since original thread was closed (just as I said it would even without a good reason) as I was typing answer below
I feel obliged to answer it here
Well, looks like it is. Any criticism of xda is not tolerated here, and this thread will lead to criticism.
If you still care for my opinion...
No, sharing is not xda spirit anymore, well at least not for some people. Popularity and donations is, by the looks of it.
I do not say that this applies to everyone, only to certain people, and it looks like xda supports it in general.
And members cannot express their view if their view goes against what xda likes to hear.
SOPA anyone?
Just saying
If you decide to post something in this thread, please consider that there should be no flaming, profanities etc, so xda does not have good grounds to close it.
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and this is why I love you tinky. I wnted to voice my own opinion but didn't. You did it for me! for us!
Tinky for president? Which country though
Lol, just lol.
KAwAtA said:
sigh is right! We're all sighing!
and this is why I love you tinky. I wnted to voice my own opinion but didn't. You did it for me! for us!
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Trollville recently outvoted me... perhaps you could replace me
Just sayin'
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Tinky for president? Which country though
Lol, just lol.
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tinky1 said:
Since original thread was closed (just as I said it would even without a good reason) as I was typing answer below
I feel obliged to answer it here
Well, looks like it is. Any criticism of xda is not tolerated here, and this thread will lead to criticism.
If you still care for my opinion...
No, sharing is not xda spirit anymore, well at least not for some people. Popularity and donations is, by the looks of it.
I do not say that this applies to everyone, only to certain people, and it looks like xda supports it in general.
And members cannot express their view if their view goes against what xda likes to hear.
SOPA anyone?
Just saying
If you decide to post something in this thread, please consider that there should be no flaming, profanities etc, so xda does not have good grounds to close it.
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The sharing mentality of XDA has not gone away. But it's certainly been reduced in light of WinZip wizards and cocky chefs who think they're God's gift to a device. The heart of this latest flare up is the simple fact that 3 devs refuse to work together or cooperate in any way. We (the moderators) deal with hundreds of reported posts everyday, and quite frankly I pitty the members who allow such infantile sh*t to occur.
Regarding sharing: Just because someone has a source that allows them early access to a file, which has happened since all the way back in WM's days here, they are under zero obligation to share it with anyone else. Most times this can risk exposing the source, which could potentially shut everyone down.
The key difference between then (WM) and now (Android) is that everyone seems to be more concerned with beating everyone else to the release, thereby claiming all the glory and potential donations. Sharing is very much still alive here, but it seems otherwise due to device popularity causing competition as opposed to cooperation. Back when smartphones were reserved for the geeks and otherwise tech savvy people, the community was much smaller, and knew each other on what was sometimes a personal level. We all worked together for a common goal. Don't believe me, have a look around the older sections of XDA, and try to count on more than 1 hand how many chefs/devs ever mention the word donations. Now do the same in the Android areas, and try to find 5 chefs/devs/winzip wizards who don't ask for them.
Ok here's how it is.......
Some of you may not like this but it needs to be said.......
Sharing is and always has been encouraged here on XDA. That said,if someone has a valid reason not to publicly share something, nobody has the right to hold that against them....
The situation we have here is not caused by one single person and is certainly not caused by XDA as a whole, it is not even directly related to the sharing aspect.
What we have here is a situation blown completely out of proportion due to a combination of over inflated egos and petty personal disputes.
First guy said:
"whaaa whaa whaa I want what he's got.........."
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the other guy said:
"boo hoo hoo he said bad things about me "
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third guy said:
"Dude, you should totally troll his thread, oh yeah and the mods are nazis... trololololol"
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There are many many users and developers across the board who need to take a step back from their screen for a second, stuff a hand down the front of their pants to check if there's a set of balls in there....
If there is then they should take that as sign that its time to pull their head out of their arse and stop acting like eight year old girls fighting over a hairbrush...........
This is a development forum. Not a playground. This problem is not specific to the Sensation forums either, it permeates throughout the entire site so do not be surprised when the moderation team take action against a user who has violated the rules of the forum.
That is what we are here to do.
Due to the large number of whiny trolls currently infesting the forums, threads such as this only create drama and bring back the problems we are trying to eliminate. (Whether that was the OP's intention or not)
Nobody on the moderation team has a problem with criticism.
I have many issues with this site. If someone were to tell me I cannot raise them then I would tell them to go **** themselves. However, there is a right way of going about this and a wrong way.
Any user is always welcome to contact a moderator about any concerns they might have. Should you have a problem with a particular moderator then contact a member of the moderator committee or an admin. (a list is in my sig btw)
Contrary to popular belief, the mod team is not some elitist "old boys club" and we do not play favourites. Each and every moderator is expected to adhere to a code of conduct and can expect to be promptly dismissed should they not do so.
That however does not mean that we will not make unpopular decision should the need arise.
/rant
Come On!
I am just plain dissapointed.. I think that the dev should share what they find, after all did they create the base no.... where do they get it? sharing!!! I am leaning away from xda community as of late for reasons revolving around this exact problem!! And now favorite dev for sensation is not here!!
Very, very true. Unfortunately xda seems to prefer to just close thread, give infractions, and try to shut everyone up instead of trying to encourage cooperation. Shall we try to change something here together, as a community?
P. S. Nice to see mods participating in conversation. Maybe(hopefully) it's a beginning of a better relationship?
NotATreoFan said:
The sharing mentality of XDA has not gone away. But it's certainly been reduced in light of WinZip wizards and cocky chefs who think they're God's gift to a device. The heart of this latest flare up is the simple fact that 3 devs refuse to work together or cooperate in any way. We (the moderators) deal with hundreds of reported posts everyday, and quite frankly I pitty the members who allow such infantile sh*t to occur.
Regarding sharing: Just because someone has a source that allows them early access to a file, which has happened since all the way back in WM's days here, they are under zero obligation to share it with anyone else. Most times this can risk exposing the source, which could potentially shut everyone down.
The key difference between then (WM) and now (Android) is that everyone seems to be more concerned with beating everyone else to the release, thereby claiming all the glory and potential donations. Sharing is very much still alive here, but it seems otherwise due to device popularity causing competition as opposed to cooperation. Back when smartphones were reserved for the geeks and otherwise tech savvy people, the community was much smaller, and knew each other on what was sometimes a personal level. We all worked together for a common goal. Don't believe me, have a look around the older sections of XDA, and try to count on more than 1 hand how many chefs/devs ever mention the word donations. Now do the same in the Android areas, and try to find 5 chefs/devs/winzip wizards who don't ask for them.
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I agree with both MTM AND NATF, and since I am one of the oldest members still active here, I can also confirm what NATF just said. We need cooperation between Devs and not pride wars.
Unfortunately this is not the case...
Winzip wizzard here (actually i use total commander but thats another story) - no irony here, if anyone has enough time to search my history on xda he will see i always said i'm cooking i'm not developing.
back to the discussion.
"they are under zero obligation to share it with anyone else. Most times this can risk exposing the source, which could potentially shut everyone down."
yes is true XDA can't make people share their source - 100% agree
risk of exposure ? i doubt is the case ,these test build are leaked with HTC's OK, we do the final beta testing for free . Let's not get into conspiracy theories here.
Is not just 3 devs who have a problem, again if anyone has the time to search xda will see one of the chefs had arguments with a lot more than 2 chefs .
Donations. I personally don't ask for them, i accept them .
As for me, i never wanted to be the 1st, and in the rare moments i had a thing 1st i shared it, i never cared about my thread rating and didn't cry when i got 1 star instead of five and so on. don't believe me ? again use the search .
about sharing, good or bad, 1st or the latest, i always said everyone is free to use what they want and do whatever they want with my zip-mods
IMHO I think XDA uses the term recognized developer far too loosely.
mudhi is a developer, LEEDROiD a developer. Mike1986 has no code knowledge (there was a very heated discussion via PM between him and me about that, I won and he left me.alone eventually) and all "his" mods made by other people. he is not the only one, don't think I say this just to have a go at mike, there are also other but at least baadnewz does do own mods, search back to 2.08 base and his own mod based on the beats audio mod (can't remember the original developer)
these people like mike think a bit of hocus pocus in dsixda kitchen make them developers, IT DOES NOT (IMO)
I say this and many of you will be thinking I am a hypocrite. Ha, I know flash ActionScript, JavaScript, HTML, CSS, tiny bit of PHP, and some java as well as currently learning smali, I came originally from DFG StarMods (where I now have the honour of being one of the admins) which is a flash theme development site for Samsung phones (like tocco lite, star, Monte and the jet)
And another thing, if people make a ROM based on a new leak/release but choose not to share the RUU, then they really have no grounds to complain about kangs because they brought it on themselves by refusing to share. If they share, kangs won't happen so I think it is unfair for baad to have received infraction because it is only human nature for users to want the best, the newest etc
p.s all apk files libs etc from any of our ROMs belong to HTC not the chefs
there are a bit more than beats stuff.
ported amaze camera and album to work on every 2.3.3-2.3.5 sense 3/3.5 rom
when was the 1st leak of android 2.3.4 from Chinese source i was the one who made location / friendstream / stock etc. to work with it and so on
baadnewz said:
there are a bit more than beats stuff.
ported amaze camera and album to work on every 2.3.3-2.3.5 sense 3/3.5 rom
when was the 1st leak of android 2.3.4 from Chinese source i was the one who made location / friendstream / stock etc. to work with it and so on
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I know, I just use beats as example because at the time it was well known
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NotATreoFan said:
The key difference between then (WM) and now (Android) is that everyone seems to be more concerned with beating everyone else to the release, thereby claiming all the glory and potential donations. Sharing is very much still alive here, but it seems otherwise due to device popularity causing competition as opposed to cooperation. Back when smartphones were reserved for the geeks and otherwise tech savvy people, the community was much smaller, and knew each other on what was sometimes a personal level. We all worked together for a common goal. Don't believe me, have a look around the older sections of XDA, and try to count on more than 1 hand how many chefs/devs ever mention the word donations. Now do the same in the Android areas, and try to find 5 chefs/devs/winzip wizards who don't ask for them.
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True, but this isn't platform dependent at all. WinMo ROM development suffered from this too.
Donations make people greedy, some guys just made their rom cooking tenure a part-time job. Nowadays Smartphones became over-popular causing this to be a great money source.
In my personal opinion xda-devs should somehow promote/encourage developers that do not accept donations, make freeware, and release their source code for free.
Jackos said:
True, but this isn't platform dependent at all. WinMo ROM development suffered from this too.
Donations make people greedy, some guys just made their rom cooking tenure a part-time job. Nowadays Smartphones became over-popular causing this to be a great money source.
In my personal opinion xda-devs should somehow promote/encourage developers that do not accept donations, make freeware, and release their source code for free.
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QFT!
Money is the root of most of the problems with XDA these days...
And I can't see that changing unfortunately.
So,are we getting anywhere guys?
Is there a way to encourage sharing somehow?
It just beyond my comprehension that an apple can be given for someone to give a bite to anyone who'd like it, but no one else can take that apple to give a bite. End result is the same in think.
It's not about Mike not sharing when he is told not to share (if that is true, I don't know and not judging him). It's the concept of having something to share but only allowing one person to share it which gets me confused. Why!?
conantroutman said:
QFT!
Money is the root of most of the problems with XDA these days...
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Thank GOD somebody started discussing this! I tried to started, but the thread was closed the second I started it. I will hold my tongue, but you can read between the lines:
Baad
We miss you!