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Hello, I've seen on Ebay a minisd of 4gb.
Is it compatible with Treo 750v? Anyone has tried it?
Hey,
Ive tried one in the XDA mini S it works in mine, but doenst work in my dads? think its something to do witht he contact length on the actual mini sd card, the longer the better. BUY A WELL KNOWN BRAND!
Actually I believe it has to do with the either the operating system's or hardware's ability to address 32bit file allocation tables. 16bit FATs only address (under normal circumstances) 2GB volumes. I believe official SD specifications require any hardware requiring more than 2GB to be SDHC (SD High Capacity) wich addresses volumes differently than none SDHC hardware/cards.
So in short, without having first hand experience to try it, I do not believe 4GB cards will work on the Treo. I'm sure, however, that someone will quickly come along and correct me if I'm wrong ;-)
I found this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=289848&highlight=sdhc and then found one on eBay from the link on that page. I won my bid and just paid for it. I should receive it within two weeks, at which time I will try to get back on here and let everyone know if it works for me.
My phone is actually a (UT Starcom) Audiovox PPC 6700 from Sprint, but I would guess that there isn't much difference pertaining to the miniSD driver and what it can/can't read. Also, I can't see WM5 having trouble with the FAT32 file system, but I could be wrong. You *can* format FAT16 up to 4GB, but it is HIGHLY inefficient compared to FAT32 at the same size.
I just hope MS releases a driver for SDHC support soon. After all, miniSD still uses the SD driver. The only difference is physical dimensions, hence why you can put a miniSD card into the SD adapter and it works in SD card readers. The pin-out is the same, etc.
Here's hoping all works well for me. I want to be able to ditch my iPod and only carry my phone.
I have not formatted a memory card with FAT 32. I do not know how WM5 will handle FAT 32 but I know that SDHC has more to do with addressing memory than simply FAT structure. There are hardware differences between SDHC and non-SDHC.
The physical similarities between the SD cards will not make up for the fact that they are internally different. Just like a CD will play in a DVD player but not vice versa. An SD card will work in an SDHC slot but not vice versa.
4GB SD cards do exist but do not fall within legitimate*SD card standards. They may or may not work based on the card manufacturer, the host device, and the direction of the wind. Keep your fingers crossed and your receipts handy.
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So coming back to the main question,
has anyone tried the 4GB miniSD card (they are all HC, FAT32 formatted) on Treo 750?
I am waiting to decide whether to buy a 2GB or go for the 4GB and come to the same capacity level as the iPhone (4GB version!).
thanks
Phal
4GB miniSD cards and the Treo 750
I've got a 750v -- had it for several months. I was using a Transcend 2GB 80x miniSD card that worked just great. No issues with "disappearing", pretty fast read/write, etc.
I wanted a 4GB card so decided I would try a SDHC card from Transcend. It does not work in the Treo 750v. Works fine in my newest PC card reader, but no-go on the Treo. Figured as much, but wanted to try.
Then I bought another 4GB card (non-HC) from eBay that was branded Topram. It suffered the issue of not being able to see the card on the Treo without doing a soft-reset first, and it was very slow in writing to it -- like 1-2MB/sec from a USB 2.0 card reader. Didn't much care for that.
Just recently bought yet another 4GB card (again non-HC) from eBay. It was a generic card. I'm getting 3MB/sec write speed from my PC card reader, which is slower than my original 2GB Transcend 80x card, but not as bad as the Topram card. On the Treo itself, it's read speed is about the same as with the 80x Transcend 2GB card, which was pretty good. Overall the Treo feels about the same with the 4GB card versus the 2GB card installed, in terms of launching Tomtom or playing MP3s.
It also does not suffer any "disappearing" or the need to soft-reset the Treo to recognize the card. I've ejected it many times and put it back it, and have never had any issues with this. I'm going to stick with this card for now, as it seems fast enough and isn't causing me any grief.
This card is shown here: http://cgi.ebay.com/4GB-MINI-SD-SEC...QtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem?hash=item110080023472
So, that's my (long winded) story on 4GB miniSD cards and the Treo 750v.
Mark
Peteshoard said:
Hey,
Ive tried one in the XDA mini S it works in mine, but doenst work in my dads? think its something to do witht he contact length on the actual mini sd card, the longer the better. BUY A WELL KNOWN BRAND!
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I just bought a 4GB mini SD from MobyMemory.com for my O2 XDA mini S. The first card would not register at all with the device. I sent it back and the replacement now at least registers (as 4GB) but after loading any sort of volume of data on the card/device it locks the PPC up!
What BRAND of 4GB mini SD card did you get working with your "XDA mini S" (and did you have any problems once you'd actually started using it to store anything over a few MB)?
Tresend 4gb mini-SD card doesn't work with Treo 750...
stay away from ebay when buying memory(card, flash drive, etc...)
90% of them are fake. Although they might work just fine, chances are it'll crap out on u eventually.
WISH I WOULD OF FOUND THIS SITE EARLIER.
Yeah I just bought a transcend 4 GIG mini-sd for my TREO 750. IT makes the noise as the TREO recognizes it but it doesn't show up in file manager. I have formatted it with my USB SDHC card reader, I can only select FAT32, and it shows 3.75 GIG.
NO GO ON TREO 750 (CINGULAR)
-anyone have any ideas on how to get it to work?
-Keith
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i've recently got my hands on a VOX/s710 phone
my last phone before this used micro SD cards, it was a nokia
when i try to put my nokia micro SD into my VOX, it doesnt recognize, but, as soon as i put it on a nokia, other phones like a palm, etc, it recognizes
is there a problem between nokia branded micro SD cards with HTC?
i tried another brand of micro SD and it worked perfectly
any ideas?
cheers
Initially I tried a NOKIA micro SD card with my Vox and it worked fine.
hum, tks for the reply
so no clues at what the problem might be?
guess if i dont resolve this, ill have to buy another micro SD card
May be, you give a try by formatting the card using a card reader from a Windows PC. That might help.
Yes, make a backup and format to FAT32 (also useful if you want to flash from sd card)! Then put your files back on the card and try again!
thanks for the tips
fortunately, i dont have any indispensable information on the microSD card, i didnt use it a lot, since it was a 1G card, and i had a 2G on my older nokia.
i'm going to try and format it and then post the result hopefully it will work
but since i dont have a memory card reader right now, im gonna try and put it on my old nokia, connect it to the pc and try to format it from there, or format it from inside the nokia phone.
ill figure out something
thanks again for the tips
cheers
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tks for the tip tryed it right now, and now its working fine
many thanks both of you for the help!
I have 2 GB microsd card installed. Is it possible to install a 4Gb card or more? Who tried? Does it support SDHC?
Funny thing, I've got an answer from htc support, they say 2Gb is the only possible amount supported
Katik said:
I have 2 GB microsd card installed. Is it possible to install a 4Gb card or more? Who tried? Does it support SDHC?
Funny thing, I've got an answer from htc support, they say 2Gb is the only possible amount supported
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I dont know exactly how to do it search the forum, but i know that there is a thread that says that partion 4gb (using WM5torage that thread tells how to) and then you can use it.
the vox supports SDHC microSD up to 8Gb, found this in www.pocketpc.ch (will post the link l8 when back on my pc).
i'm using a sandisk SDHC 4Gb fat32 formatted, works perfect! i will buy a 8Gb soon and post the results here .
edit: http://www.pocketpc.ch/htc-s710/39075-8-gb-micro-sd-htc-s710-moeglich.html the forum is in german there....
remembered to post this note, after fomarting the sd card, it worked well
just another question though, you guys are talking about 4 and 8 gigs sd cards
doesnt having a much bigger sd card slow down the phone? i've heard of such rumours but never got the chance to tested myself, and since i'm willing to make a sd upgrade i would like to know if its better to stick with a 1 gig or 2 gigs sd card, or i can go ahead and get a 4 or 8 gigs?
cheers
so, finally i bought this fine 8Gb microSDHC from sandisk, and i works just perfect.
artilheiro.mz said:
just another question though, you guys are talking about 4 and 8 gigs sd cards
doesnt having a much bigger sd card slow down the phone? i've heard of such rumours but never got the chance to tested myself, and since i'm willing to make a sd upgrade i would like to know if its better to stick with a 1 gig or 2 gigs sd card, or i can go ahead and get a 4 or 8 gigs?
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i never tried with a 1 or 2Gb card, so there i cannot say. but on the otherhand i did not remark an diffrence of speed with the 4 or 8Gb card, they're just as fast as usual (in cellular device or in pc with cardreader). the only thing i can say, is that cards from cheap(er) brands are always slower than cards from quality brands (such as sandisk, as example). and also SDHC cards should always be faster than 1 or 2Gb cards, because they have a newer controllers (not 100% sure about this point, i think i might have read that in c't).
i hope i could help a little bit...
Dang, 8GB cards work without driver patching? That is champion. I'll be ordering myself one soon.
Yep, can confirm 8gb card works fine, have had one in mine for some months now...
Now what about 16gb? was that article written before 16's were available even the sandisk site seems to be out of date saying nokias that are supposed to support 16's only support 8?
anyone actually confirmed 16's don't work?
Katik said:
I have 2 GB microsd card installed. Is it possible to install a 4Gb card or more? Who tried? Does it support SDHC?
Funny thing, I've got an answer from htc support, they say 2Gb is the only possible amount supported
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well, i am using a Sandisk 4GB micro Sd without any problems.
@ zarn:
have a look at General discussion > Accessories > 16 and 32GB MicroSDHC test
JayRayMee.NL said:
16GB will be available in Q4.
32GB somewhere in the first half of next year.
Pricing unknown, but I guess that 16GB will have an intro price of something like € 100,00.
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i guess we have to wait some time to test it
at work, some weeks ago, i discussed this with a dev. and he meant that from the hardware side it should be no problem, but maybe the driver needs to be updated. i'm not sure, but as i know the driver adds support for sdhc, no matter of the size of the card. he's not a sys dev, he does apps and branding, i'm only test-ex and advanved user, so correct me if i'm wrong (i'm still learning ).
edit: found following on http://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-sdhc-cards.htm
The new 2.00 specification should last a bit longer, as it allows SDHC cards to reach a maximum capacity of 32GB.
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so i think, if the device supports that specification (and the vox does), it should support cards up to 32Gb.
and again some info about speed:
The SDHC specification 2.00 calls for cards to be classified according to the minimal sustained DTS as follows:
Class 2: minimum sustained DTS of 2MB/sec
Class 4: minimum sustained DTS of 4MB/sec
Class 6: minimum sustained DTS of 6MB/sec
SDHC cards are classified to guarantee a specific sustained DTS. This potentially saves consumers money, as flash cards are priced not only according to capacity, but also to speed. For example, if a product's maximum DTS is 2MB/sec, dishing out extra cash for Class 4 or Class 6 SDHC cards would be a waste of money. Conversely, devices that can utilize the 4MB/sec or 6MB/sec DTR (i guess the author meant DTS, kel187) will perform significantly better with Class 4 or Class 6 SDHC cards, respectively.
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my 4Gb card is Class 2 and my 8Gb is Class 4. i did not recognized any diffrences in speed advantages, neither on the mobile nor on the pc. so the vox and my cardreader must be class 2 devices, what a pitty ^^
I'm thinking of getting a new SDHC card for my Universal (currently running Tomal's v8.2). I'm leaning towards getting an 8Gb MicrosSD card with adapter for convenience, and obviously have the choice of class 2, 4, or 6 - there's not much price difference.
However, OllieD's SD settings ap mentions Type-I and Type-II, and I don't know what this is. I'm assuming it's nothing to do with the SDHC class?
Should I be ok getting a class 6 card, or are there compatibility issues I should be aware of? I'm likely to purchase the card from eBay, so if somebody has bought a MicroSD that works find from there, then please provide the info of type and seller.
Cheers,
Steve.
StevePritchard said:
I'm thinking of getting a new SDHC card for my Universal (currently running Tomal's v8.2). I'm leaning towards getting an 8Gb MicrosSD card with adapter for convenience, and obviously have the choice of class 2, 4, or 6 - there's not much price difference.
However, OllieD's SD settings ap mentions Type-I and Type-II, and I don't know what this is. I'm assuming it's nothing to do with the SDHC class?
Should I be ok getting a class 6 card, or are there compatibility issues I should be aware of? I'm likely to purchase the card from eBay, so if somebody has bought a MicroSD that works find from there, then please provide the info of type and seller.
Cheers,
Steve.
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Hi Steve,
OllieD actually has coded the UI for me. Thanx to him.
Type-1 is actually the driver in compatibility mode of Class4. You should try first the type-2 driver if it's a Class6 card and select type-1 in case type-2 doesn't work well.
regards
Is it safe to assume that those using class 4 cards should select Type-I?
Just to throw a bit of added confusion into the mix; according to SKTools, my 8Gb class 6 Sandisk MicroSDHC runs about 40% quicker using the Type I setting, than it does using Type II.
Cheers,
Steve.
I've just done some benchmarking with PocketMechanic SD-card benchmark and I must say that my Adata microSDHC 8GB "Turbo" class 6 card (in an SD adapter of course) also works significantly faster with "Type I" set. In some cases it's even 2-3 times faster.
Agreed, this is what I have found. Type-I is faster for my 8GB class 6 card.
My 4GB card was about same speed with any setting.
And my 2GB MMC card was fastest with Type-II.
I tested my card: Kingmax 8GB SDHC class 6
It is 3-6x times faster with the Type I setting.
My V-Gen 4GB SDHC is unstable with type II, need to be re-inserted all the times. but, it very stable with type I.
bfebrian said:
My V-Gen 4GB SDHC is unstable with type II, need to be re-inserted all the times. but, it very stable with type I.
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Yeah, I found the same with my 8G SanDisk Ultra-II. I always select Type-1 now and have never had any problems.
Only thing I would add, if you're playing with ROM's and have to DOC-format the device, make sure your SD card is out and safe somewhere before you start resetting the device into bootloader mode.
-savcom
Ok, so I just bought an 8GB Transcend SDHC Class 6 from Amazon. My Fuze (with default ATT rom) won't recognize it, but my friend's Verizon Touch Pro does. It also works in my laptops SD slot with the adapter. I tried formatting it, but my phone still doesn't see it. I tried googling for help, but the only thing I found is wm5/6 having issues with SDHC. The Fuze is supposed to be compatible, right?
Is there anything you guys could would suggest? I found a SDHC.cab file, but it doesn't do anything.
-nate
also, my 2GB Kingston works fine.
I have found Transcend SDs to be iffy.
I've been using a Transcend Class 6 microSDHC card that I purchased from Newegg (with miniature USB reader) since day one with my Fuze, hasn't missed a beat. Sounds like you may just have a faulty one.
This is what I have: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208460
same problem here, please help ..........
Using a Transcend 8GB Micro here no probs at all!! Been using for months I'd say
GL
JFlitt
So here's what I tested:
I bought 2 of the Transcend 8GB C6 cards.
Neither card worked in my Fuze or my bosses Fuze.
Both cards worked in a Verizon Touch Pro.
Both cards worked in multiple Verizon 6800's.
I found a friend with a Trans 8GB CLASS 4 card, it works in my phone.
I sold one of the class 6 cards and traded the other to my friend.
Oh also mine does say C6 on it, or more specifically a 6 with a C around it!
Thanks
JFlitt
Sandisk is the only way to go..pretty cheap on Amazon
You know just for the hell of it, one of you guys w/ the 8gb card should dl and try the Panasonic SD formatter program. Google it. I have one that just says V2.
I had weird issues w/ a 4 gig card, reformatted it numerous times, w/ numerous programs nothing worked until this panasonic program i found.
SDFormatter V.2
My 8GB Transcend Class 6 works great in my FUZE. What I found interesting is that I bought an 8GB Transcend in November for $16 and another in January for $15 but now they cost $21! How does the price RISE $6 in 6 months? I think there is something fishy going on in flash memory prices. They had working 32GB prototype cards a year ago yet they still are not out.
it could be putting the storage card at the bottom of the list in file explorer. you made sure it wasnt there by looking at the storage card tab under memory settings right?
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You know just for the hell of it, one of you guys w/ the 8gb card should dl and try the Panasonic SD formatter program. Google it. I have one that just says V2.
I had weird issues w/ a 4 gig card, reformatted it numerous times, w/ numerous programs nothing worked until this panasonic program i found.
SDFormatter V.2
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Using http://panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/sd/download/sd_formatter.html
Tried 1. quick format, format size adjustment off- no luck
now trying 2. full format(flash erase on), format size adjustment off- no luck
Maybe something like this would work:
http://www.wizcode.com/products/view/scandisk_mobile
I've got the same card with the same problem. The card actually worked for the first time, but after flashing a new ROM onto the device, the storage card was no longer accessible from the phone itself while it is from card reader. Formatting does nothing.
I had an issue like this once with SD cards on a Dell Axim but it turned out to be the fault of the WMDRM folder--which isn't the case here since the card is empty now.
Is there some other method in which the device locks the card?
Just wanted to throw my two cents in. I bought two Transcend 4gb class 6 SDHC cards, both of which worked find in my computer and camera, but neither worked in my Fuze. I ended up buying a Sandisk card which is working famously in my device. However, it is only a Class 4 card... Hey, as long as I can save and playback video to it without interruption, I'm happy.
ceryx- said:
I've got the same card with the same problem. The card actually worked for the first time, but after flashing a new ROM onto the device, the storage card was no longer accessible from the phone itself while it is from card reader. Formatting does nothing.
I had an issue like this once with SD cards on a Dell Axim but it turned out to be the fault of the WMDRM folder--which isn't the case here since the card is empty now.
Is there some other method in which the device locks the card?
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So it stopped working after flashing a new ROM? Have you tried going back or flashing a different ROM? It could be a problem with the ROM if the problem started happening after you flashed a new ROM.
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So it stopped working after flashing a new ROM? Have you tried going back or flashing a different ROM? It could be a problem with the ROM if the problem started happening after you flashed a new ROM.
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I've gone back to that ROM with no success and on to different ROMs with no luck. Changing Device ID doesn't seem to help.
I will try that format utility when I get home.
My 64MB Sandisk works fine however.
The only way to access the 8GB Transcend card is to install wm5torage and use the phone as a reader, so it's not a hardware issue. The storage card itself cannot be viewed in File Explorer/TC or through ActiveSync--basically WM refuses to acknowledge its existence.
No deal with the Panasonic format program.
I'll just use the card in my Garmin for MP3s instead.
The card just arrived from Amazon for me, and it isn't working. I should've searched this up before buying the card. Still no fixes?
i have trancend microsdhc class 6, 8gb and not working in my raphael (asia wwe stock rom)
is there any chance that upgrade rom to the newer one / flash custom rom will fix this issue? panasonic sd formater didn't help.
i have this card 1month and it work ok for me. one day card crash i get new (same) but device don´t see this card. i try new rom, panasonic sd format but no change.
i try 8gb sandisk class 4 and kingston class 6 and this cards works ok.
So today i brought a 8gb Transcend Class 6 mico sd card for my raphael. So i went back home and try it then i found it not detected on the file explorer but it says expansion slot in use when i go to Settings>About. Thanks in advance.
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Transcend is not recomended by HTC. i am also having same problem with my SD card which is made by Transcend (4GB capacity). it detects when you put it in phone for a longer time, but you can not write/save/copy anything in it. it will say FILE CAN NOT COPY, MAKE SURE THE PHONE IS PROPERLY CONENCTED AND SOURCE FILE IS NOT MOVED BLA....BLA... BLA...
when i checked with HTC team, they advised me to use micro SD from SANDISK.
well the weird thing is when i insert the card on my friends phone(HTC TYTN 2) it detects it instantly after inserting it in. But when i insert it on my phone it doesn't work, btw i also tried another card from my friend, it a sandisk 4gb and it worked. hmm this seems top be a uncommon issue.
I ahve the SAME exact problem with the 8GB Transcend Class 6 Micro SD that I just bought for my phone. I've had no issues at all with the 4GB Transcend Class 6 card that I currently have. On the other hand, I had a 4GB Sandish Class 6 that would not work in my Raphael but would work just fine in my Kaiser.
Appearently the card worked randomly but i can't copy any file to the card for some reason.
look for something called SDformatter by panasonic i had similar troubles with a couple sd cards till i found this program.
they all work now in any phone/device.
Is there any specific setting to set in the program Panasonic formating program? Erase enable or whatever? I had my SD card working for about 2 or 3 days and now its not detected again.
I have similar my 8GB does not get recognized and if does it's only for a matter of minutes then corrupts but my 2GB reads fine, but the 8GB is fine in Kaiser already used the SDformatter to which makes it read till corrupts again within minutes...
Going to try some other cards out in local shop before purchase will take laptop to transfer data while there.
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I have similar my 8GB does not get recognized and if does it's only for a matter of minutes then corrupts but my 2GB reads fine, but the 8GB is fine in Kaiser already used the SDformatter to which makes it read till corrupts again within minutes...
Going to try some other cards out in local shop before purchase will take laptop to transfer data while there.
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I have read in a lot of post that Transcend 8GB class 6 card have problems to be recognized by Rapahel.
I also have one. On my Kaiser worked well.
With stock rom it wasn't recognized by Raphael; with Energyrom it is recognized, but i used for few minutes, because i feared that something bad could happen..after reading all these post.
I usually use a Kingston 2gb card.
We were unlucky buying these cards...
Monfro said:
I have read in a lot of post that Transcend 8GB class 6 card have problems to be recognized by Rapahel.
I also have one. On my Kaiser worked well.
With stock rom it wasn't recognized by Raphael; with Energyrom it is recognized, but i used for few minutes, because i feared that something bad could happen..after reading all these post.
I usually use a Kingston 2gb card.
We were unlucky buying these cards...
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Mines a Samsung 8GB class 6 and think your correct just an unlucky card and yeah Kingston 2GB fine, when can get to test some cards will update post.
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Mines a Samsung 8GB class 6.
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Yes, I also have a Samsung 8GB class 6 card that my Touch Pro refuses to read. Tried an EnergyROM as I had read that for some reason they were better at reading some cards. But no dice - just bought Sandisk Class 2 and it works perfectly so far