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Hey guys, my first thread here.
I live in Canada, so I don't get much of smartphone selections up here.
Here's several phone that I think I will like, and I want you guys to help me decide.
Phones I think I would like, and some basic understanding from me of the pros and cons(I love the HTC Droid Incredible the best, too bad we dont have it up here :[ ):
HTC Desire
Pro:
Sense UI
No Cons
Galaxy S Vibrant [This actually should be a i9000, they call it vibrant up here]
Pro:
Super AMOLED Screen (Although I know that the iPhone 4 screen is brighter)
4" Display
Cons:
Lagging Issues
No Flash on camera
a lot of little software issues
Plasticy(a case or skin can cover that)
UPDATE: Galaxy S Captivate is coming to us this September, Same Pros and Cons except it doesnt have as much software issues?
iPhone 4
Pros:
Better Music Player
Great Support (Obviously a very popular phone)
Definitly a lot of better apps, for now
Cons:
No Adobe Flash
Blocking Signals, although I know from friends that it is not a big issue at all
if you got a good point that another phone might be better, i might change my mind
iphone, generally garbage, if you have any self respect dont get it
Sense UI sucks, everyone with a good phone like that flashes cyanogen or something like that
and galaxy S feels plasticky
Sler said:
Hey guys, my first thread here.
I live in Canada, so I don't get much of smartphone selections up here.
Here's several phone that I think I will like, and I want you guys to help me decide.
Phones I think I would like, and some basic understanding from me of the pros and cons(I love the HTC Droid Incredible the best, too bad we dont have it up here :[ ):
HTC Desire
Pro:
Sense UI
No Cons
Galaxy S Vibrant [This actually should be a i9000, they call it vibrant up here]
Pro:
Super AMOLED Screen (Although I know that the iPhone 4 screen is brighter)
4" Display
Cons:
Lagging Issues
No Flash on camera
a lot of little software issues
Plasticy(a case or skin can cover that)
UPDATE: Galaxy S Captivate is coming to us this September, Same Pros and Cons except it doesnt have as much software issues?
iPhone 4
Pros:
Better Music Player
Great Support (Obviously a very popular phone)
Definitly a lot of better apps, for now
Cons:
No Adobe Flash
Blocking Signals, although I know from friends that it is not a big issue at all
if you got a good point that another phone might be better, i might change my mind
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Id get the disire. as you said, no cons
HTC Supersonic
Yeah, I also say grab the HTC Desire.
I am trying to get peoples opinions about on which phone I should get... I have a Samsung Vibrant and I hate the phone... I have narrowed down to the two options, 1) Mytouch 4G or 2) G2. I don't know which one i should get or if any of those two are for me at all. If everyone could give me their opinions that would be awesome!
slackerx10 said:
I am trying to get peoples opinions about on which phone I should get... I have a Samsung Vibrant and I hate the phone... I have narrowed down to the two options, 1) Mytouch 4G or 2) G2. I don't know which one i should get or if any of those two are for me at all. If everyone could give me their opinions that would be awesome!
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i had both phones so i got hands on with them... it depends if you need keyword NEED a physical keyboard... the hinge on the G2 is 100% horrible!!!! i had them replace the phone 3 times in a 14 day period in which i ended up with my MT4G now which i love... i havent really use the FFC tho i did couple times when i first got it but its not bad... both phone are extremely fast and sturdy. the G2 is alot heavier tho almost like 6.5 oz i believe... which is heavier than the HD2 but its because of the keyboard... i also had a vibrant too so in comparison with both fully touch screen phones the MT4G beats the vibrant IMO... hope this give you some insight on your decision...
Asking that question on the MT4G board is only going to get you one answer...
vw671 said:
Asking that question on the MT4G board is only going to get you one answer...
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lol haha i never thought of that kinda a retoricle question
haha nice
vw671 said:
Asking that question on the MT4G board is only going to get you one answer...
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Lol yeah i know but like the first reply maybe there were others out there that had or have both.
Great information!
aznpr1de808 said:
i had both phones so i got hands on with them... it depends if you need keyword NEED a physical keyboard... the hinge on the G2 is 100% horrible!!!! i had them replace the phone 3 times in a 14 day period in which i ended up with my MT4G now which i love... i havent really use the FFC tho i did couple times when i first got it but its not bad... both phone are extremely fast and sturdy. the G2 is alot heavier tho almost like 6.5 oz i believe... which is heavier than the HD2 but its because of the keyboard... i also had a vibrant too so in comparison with both fully touch screen phones the MT4G beats the vibrant IMO... hope this give you some insight on your decision...
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It certainly does indeed. I was a little weary about that hinges on the G2 so I figured I would get other peoples thoughts about it.
Oh yeah as for only being posted in here I am posting the same question in the G2 forums as well.
i do miss the vanilla froyo on the G2 i absolutely hate mysense lol but with the help of roms and ADW i made this phone perfect for me some times i miss the keyboard but i hardly type with this phone because i use voice to text recognition so i the end i never needed the keyboard in the first place... i do find that screen on the MT4G looks alittle better than the G2 maybe its jus me lol also you have 4 different choices in color with the MT4G unlike the plain silver on the G2... in the end, both phones are HTC branded, scropion CPUs, and HSPA+ enabled... so do you want a keyboard or Front Facing Camera?
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I have both, and I still love my G2 and its keyboard. Also, the hinge is awesome on both mine and my wife's G2, so that wasn't an issue for us. I don't care for all the crapware on the mT4G, and I miss the capacitive buttons on the G2 and Nexus One I had before that. However, the weight of the device and how it feels keep me trying, along with how FriendStream and Faves work. I got it for free (upgraded my wife's Charm and we switched plans, so I got another phone for free), so I figured I'd keep it or sell it if I don't like it. In fact, I used it for around 2 hours, hated it and went back to my G2. I tried it again the next day and I like it well enough to keep using it.
I got the MT4G few days ago, I also was confused between the G2 and MT4G. I picked the MT because I am going to leave the country soon and I don't want to have replacement problems in case I got the G2 and the hinge turned out to be that bad. I figured out that swype will help me to get rid of my full QWERTY keyboard addiction. I liked the feeling of the MT in the hand, it's more confined. Till now I love the phone. Go and spend time playing with the phones at T mobile, I used each one of them for about half an hour in the store and then I decided.
I've owned all three of T-Mo's flagships, so I can give you a brief breakdown of my opinions in regards to T-Mo's high-end line-up...
I used each phone for at least 30 days, and obsessively documented both my satisfactions and gripes with each device.
Prepare for OCD overload!
Galaxy S / Vibrant:
Pros
Best media playback device, hands down (XViD, H264, HD videos, anything really).
Best DLNA streaming ever! Streams to a PS3 like a bad-ass little wireless HDD!
One of the better-sounding speakers on a phone.
Samsung's 'White Noise' Alarm Clock is pretty sweet.
The best parts of the iPhone on Android (Calculator / Calendar / Alarm apps)
Amazing quality screen.
Best Camera outside of the iPhone 4.
LED Flash is not really missed.
HD Video Recording is excellent, and the sound is quite nice as well.
Bluetooth 3.0 / Wireless N support
Great Swype device.
A huge amount of storage by default.
Super-fast 3G Performance when signal is strong.
Cons
No Hardware 'Silent' Switch.
Cheap construction -- creaks and feels like a kid's toy.
Blue-tint to everything / Ghosting of Text.
Absolutely broken and utterly worthless GPS.
Short battery life.
Laggy SD card access.
Software updates always trailing behind.
No dedicated Camera Button.
Hardly any Developer Support.
No notification LED.
No LED Flash (only missed due to Flashlight apps).
HTC G2 / Desire Z
Pros
WiFi Calling + WiFi Tether
HSPA+ support.
Mostly-stock Android 2.2.1
Battery Door Latch.
Decent screen.
Best Physical Keyboard on a phone, ever.
Lightning-fast, despite lower clockspeed.
Mostly-solid Construction.
Dedicated Camera Button.
GPS works like a champ! Lock within seconds, great accuracy.
Tons of Developer Support.
Notification LED.
Would be completely amazing, if you could just get one with a solid hinge!
Cons
Still no Hardware 'Silent' Switch.
T-Mo Bloatware.
Trackpad is not accurate / does not work well.
No Wake On Trackpad.
Trackpad Notification Ring is really hard to see / only one color.
Stock Android's Copy and Paste is miserable.
Ridiculous floppy hinge that falls down when the phone is tilted.
Dedicated Camera Button feels really cheap compared to mT4G's.
MicroSD card is not hot-swappable (change out while device is on).
Speaker is really quite miserable sounding -- one of the worst.
Really low-quality Camera and one of the worst LED Flash implementations I've ever seen -- pictures look abysmally awful.
Terrible video recording, as an extra kick to the nuts.
Small amount of storage.
No FFC.
Terrible for media playback in every way.
Lock button is too recessed.
Typical HTC Quality-Control Issues (check for dead pixels / some screens look kinda ****ty).
HTC Glacier / myTouch 4G
Pros:
WiFi Calling + WiFi Tether
Solid construction -- this thing feels like a hefty little tank.
The lastest and greatest hardware.
Too Much RAM! (768 v. the standard 512)
HSPA+ support.
FM Radio!
Docking Pins for Desk / GPS cradle accessories.
Nice little kit 'travel case' with high-quality headset, USB cable and wall plug.
Trackpad that actually works really well / Wake On Trackpad (iPhone-style).
Perfect GPS, like the G2.
Better Camera App than stock Android.
Dedicated Camera Key is really nice!
LED Flash performs much better than the G2's.
Better UI for adjusting Times in Clocks / Calendars (iPhone-style scrollwheels).
Better Copy and Paste, ripped directly from iOS.
Neat 'New Sense' features: Flip on-call to speaker; flip while ringing to silent; louder in-pocket; softer when picked up.
Pretty HTC eye-candy widgets / the infamous Clock!
Cons
Again with the Hardware 'Silent' Switch!
Carrier Bloat.
HTC Gallery sucks (no Picasa support!?).
DLNA sharing is too hard to set up / doesn't work very well.
QIK blows for Video Chat.
HTC Lock Screen sucks (no Froyo Lock Screen option).
Media Playback is - again - abysmal compared to the Vibrant.
'MyFaves' is useless and locked to the Dock Launcher.
HTC's Contacts App is bloated, slow and completely annoying ('T-Mobile' account syncing? Yuck!).
Small amount of storage.
'Genius' Button is pretentious and mostly useless. Lack of a Search Button is really, really, really annoying.
Lock Button is too recessed on most units.
Battery Door breaks fingernails.
Speaker quality is not amazing (but better than the G2's).
Phone is kind of a mish-mash of designs / isn't as pretty as the N1.
Typical HTC Quality-Control Issues (dead pixel / some screens kinda meh / FFC is sometimes not aligned with cut-out hole).
Over the course of the past few months, finding the 'perfect' Android phone has been super difficult for me. The G2 was almost it, but I couldn't get over how cheap / annoying that hinge felt. I loved the feel of the keyboard, and ended up using it a lot, but I prefer slate phones. That said, I think 4" is the sweet spot, and it's annoying that T-Mo and HTC opted to downsize the otherwise-Desire-HD myTouch 4G into the 3.7" form-factor.
If I could sum up my reason for sticking with the myTouch 4G, it would be: "Everything on it just works (for once)". There are no 'GPS/Lag Fix' bugs to worry about, and there isn't much hardware on it that would potentially fail. It has neat little nerdy features like FM radio, and in general, is a little powerhouse. It feels like a device that has been in the making for a while.
If you're just looking for a super-solid Android phone, I can't think of a better one than the myTouch 4G, right now (and I've thought about jumping ship to other carriers / played with every phone). Some nice docks are on the way, and T-Mo is actually going to support this phone. I like it a lot.
However, if you have any interest or need in watching movies, this is not your device. This is really annoying for me, as I like to watch shows on breaks / commutes; but it's something I'll just have to get over. The Vibrant was like a bad-ass little plasma TV that could play anything I loaded onto the 16GB internal memory, and it's hard to not have that capability on other devices.
If I could do it all over again, even knowing about and having handled a Nexus S (which is solid-feeling, if you had any fears based on the Vibrant), I'd probably still pick the myTouch 4G. It just feels so solid and well-designed. The 'Genius Button' is probably the biggest deal-breaker for me, besides 'MyFaves'. Other than that, I really love MySense with all of the 'New Sense' features.
I say: myTouch 4G (and I feel as if I give all devices a fair shake / run through the discrimination chamber).
Hope that helps a little. Enjoy your phone!
Yes you may think my answer is biased but I had 2 G2's before I got the MT4G and I had a hard time deciding if I wanted to try a third one or go to the MT4G. I never used the HW keyboard and the loose hinges made me sick. So what I finally made my decision on was the Overall potential of the device. The 786 mb of RAM the extra features such as copy and paste and a few other nice things from the mysense. I also knew we would eventually get root and that it was just a matter of time before we have stock gingerbread 2.3 for the MT4G.
On the G2 I had a lot of problems with the signal and losing connection and it staying off or did not switch properly. I also like the lite weight and feel of the MT4G.
Hope this helps you.
Jon C said:
I've owned all three of T-Mo's flagships, so I can give you a brief breakdown of my opinions in regards to T-Mo's high-end line-up...
I used each phone for at least 30 days, and obsessively documented both my satisfactions and gripes with each device.
Prepare for OCD overload!
Galaxy S / Vibrant:
Pros
Best media playback device, hands down (XViD, H264, HD videos, anything really).
Best DLNA streaming ever! Streams to a PS3 like a bad-ass little wireless HDD!
One of the better-sounding speakers on a phone.
Samsung's 'White Noise' Alarm Clock is pretty sweet.
The best parts of the iPhone on Android (Calculator / Calendar / Alarm apps)
Amazing quality screen.
Best Camera outside of the iPhone 4.
LED Flash is not really missed.
HD Video Recording is excellent, and the sound is quite nice as well.
Bluetooth 3.0 / Wireless N support
Great Swype device.
A huge amount of storage by default.
Super-fast 3G Performance when signal is strong.
Cons
No Hardware 'Silent' Switch.
Cheap construction -- creaks and feels like a kid's toy.
Blue-tint to everything / Ghosting of Text.
Absolutely broken and utterly worthless GPS.
Short battery life.
Laggy SD card access.
Software updates always trailing behind.
No dedicated Camera Button.
Hardly any Developer Support.
No notification LED.
No LED Flash (only missed due to Flashlight apps).
HTC G2 / Desire Z
Pros
WiFi Calling + WiFi Tether
HSPA+ support.
Mostly-stock Android 2.2.1
Battery Door Latch.
Decent screen.
Best Physical Keyboard on a phone, ever.
Lightning-fast, despite lower clockspeed.
Mostly-solid Construction.
Dedicated Camera Button.
GPS works like a champ! Lock within seconds, great accuracy.
Tons of Developer Support.
Notification LED.
Would be completely amazing, if you could just get one with a solid hinge!
Cons
Still no Hardware 'Silent' Switch.
T-Mo Bloatware.
Trackpad is not accurate / does not work well.
No Wake On Trackpad.
Trackpad Notification Ring is really hard to see / only one color.
Stock Android's Copy and Paste is miserable.
Ridiculous floppy hinge that falls down when the phone is tilted.
Dedicated Camera Button feels really cheap compared to mT4G's.
MicroSD card is not hot-swappable (change out while device is on).
Speaker is really quite miserable sounding -- one of the worst.
Really low-quality Camera and one of the worst LED Flash implementations I've ever seen -- pictures look abysmally awful.
Terrible video recording, as an extra kick to the nuts.
Small amount of storage.
No FFC.
Terrible for media playback in every way.
Lock button is too recessed.
Typical HTC Quality-Control Issues (check for dead pixels / some screens look kinda ****ty).
HTC Glacier / myTouch 4G
Pros:
WiFi Calling + WiFi Tether
Solid construction -- this thing feels like a hefty little tank.
The lastest and greatest hardware.
Too Much RAM! (768 v. the standard 512)
HSPA+ support.
FM Radio!
Docking Pins for Desk / GPS cradle accessories.
Nice little kit 'travel case' with high-quality headset, USB cable and wall plug.
Trackpad that actually works really well / Wake On Trackpad (iPhone-style).
Perfect GPS, like the G2.
Better Camera App than stock Android.
Dedicated Camera Key is really nice!
LED Flash performs much better than the G2's.
Better UI for adjusting Times in Clocks / Calendars (iPhone-style scrollwheels).
Better Copy and Paste, ripped directly from iOS.
Neat 'New Sense' features: Flip on-call to speaker; flip while ringing to silent; louder in-pocket; softer when picked up.
Pretty HTC eye-candy widgets / the infamous Clock!
Cons
Again with the Hardware 'Silent' Switch!
Carrier Bloat.
HTC Gallery sucks (no Picasa support!?).
DLNA sharing is too hard to set up / doesn't work very well.
QIK blows for Video Chat.
HTC Lock Screen sucks (no Froyo Lock Screen option).
Media Playback is - again - abysmal compared to the Vibrant.
'MyFaves' is useless and locked to the Dock Launcher.
HTC's Contacts App is bloated, slow and completely annoying ('T-Mobile' account syncing? Yuck!).
Small amount of storage.
'Genius' Button is pretentious and mostly useless. Lack of a Search Button is really, really, really annoying.
Lock Button is too recessed on most units.
Battery Door breaks fingernails.
Speaker quality is not amazing (but better than the G2's).
Phone is kind of a mish-mash of designs / isn't as pretty as the N1.
Typical HTC Quality-Control Issues (dead pixel / some screens kinda meh / FFC is sometimes not aligned with cut-out hole).
Over the course of the past few months, finding the 'perfect' Android phone has been super difficult for me. The G2 was almost it, but I couldn't get over how cheap / annoying that hinge felt. I loved the feel of the keyboard, and ended up using it a lot, but I prefer slate phones. That said, I think 4" is the sweet spot, and it's annoying that T-Mo and HTC opted to downsize the otherwise-Desire-HD myTouch 4G into the 3.7" form-factor.
If I could sum up my reason for sticking with the myTouch 4G, it would be: "Everything on it just works (for once)". There are no 'GPS/Lag Fix' bugs to worry about, and there isn't much hardware on it that would potentially fail. It has neat little nerdy features like FM radio, and in general, is a little powerhouse. It feels like a device that has been in the making for a while.
If you're just looking for a super-solid Android phone, I can't think of a better one than the myTouch 4G, right now (and I've thought about jumping ship to other carriers / played with every phone). Some nice docks are on the way, and T-Mo is actually going to support this phone. I like it a lot.
However, if you have any interest or need in watching movies, this is not your device. This is really annoying for me, as I like to watch shows on breaks / commutes; but it's something I'll just have to get over. The Vibrant was like a bad-ass little plasma TV that could play anything I loaded onto the 16GB internal memory, and it's hard to not have that capability on other devices.
If I could do it all over again, even knowing about and having handled a Nexus S (which is solid-feeling, if you had any fears based on the Vibrant), I'd probably still pick the myTouch 4G. It just feels so solid and well-designed. The 'Genius Button' is probably the biggest deal-breaker for me, besides 'MyFaves'. Other than that, I really love MySense with all of the 'New Sense' features.
I say: myTouch 4G (and I feel as if I give all devices a fair shake / run through the discrimination chamber).
Hope that helps a little. Enjoy your phone!
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Jon This is by far the best input I have ever seen on any page....ummmmm...... EVER!!!
Based on reading this and all the other comments I chose the MT4G over the g2 only because the people that were using the G2 were like super nerds and im not one to know how to do like 85% of all those things they do to their phones...
No lie I read this again and again... seriously the best comparison I have ever seen. But I did read everywhere that there is a lot of bloatware... Is there a way to rid the device of this?
Jon C said:
I've owned all three of T-Mo's flagships, so I can give you a brief breakdown of my opinions in regards to T-Mo's high-end line-up...
I used each phone for at least 30 days, and obsessively documented both my satisfactions and gripes with each device.
Prepare for OCD overload!
Galaxy S / Vibrant:
Pros
Best media playback device, hands down (XViD, H264, HD videos, anything really).
Best DLNA streaming ever! Streams to a PS3 like a bad-ass little wireless HDD!
One of the better-sounding speakers on a phone.
Samsung's 'White Noise' Alarm Clock is pretty sweet.
The best parts of the iPhone on Android (Calculator / Calendar / Alarm apps)
Amazing quality screen.
Best Camera outside of the iPhone 4.
LED Flash is not really missed.
HD Video Recording is excellent, and the sound is quite nice as well.
Bluetooth 3.0 / Wireless N support
Great Swype device.
A huge amount of storage by default.
Super-fast 3G Performance when signal is strong.
Cons
No Hardware 'Silent' Switch.
Cheap construction -- creaks and feels like a kid's toy.
Blue-tint to everything / Ghosting of Text.
Absolutely broken and utterly worthless GPS.
Short battery life.
Laggy SD card access.
Software updates always trailing behind.
No dedicated Camera Button.
Hardly any Developer Support.
No notification LED.
No LED Flash (only missed due to Flashlight apps).
HTC G2 / Desire Z
Pros
WiFi Calling + WiFi Tether
HSPA+ support.
Mostly-stock Android 2.2.1
Battery Door Latch.
Decent screen.
Best Physical Keyboard on a phone, ever.
Lightning-fast, despite lower clockspeed.
Mostly-solid Construction.
Dedicated Camera Button.
GPS works like a champ! Lock within seconds, great accuracy.
Tons of Developer Support.
Notification LED.
Would be completely amazing, if you could just get one with a solid hinge!
Cons
Still no Hardware 'Silent' Switch.
T-Mo Bloatware.
Trackpad is not accurate / does not work well.
No Wake On Trackpad.
Trackpad Notification Ring is really hard to see / only one color.
Stock Android's Copy and Paste is miserable.
Ridiculous floppy hinge that falls down when the phone is tilted.
Dedicated Camera Button feels really cheap compared to mT4G's.
MicroSD card is not hot-swappable (change out while device is on).
Speaker is really quite miserable sounding -- one of the worst.
Really low-quality Camera and one of the worst LED Flash implementations I've ever seen -- pictures look abysmally awful.
Terrible video recording, as an extra kick to the nuts.
Small amount of storage.
No FFC.
Terrible for media playback in every way.
Lock button is too recessed.
Typical HTC Quality-Control Issues (check for dead pixels / some screens look kinda ****ty).
HTC Glacier / myTouch 4G
Pros:
WiFi Calling + WiFi Tether
Solid construction -- this thing feels like a hefty little tank.
The lastest and greatest hardware.
Too Much RAM! (768 v. the standard 512)
HSPA+ support.
FM Radio!
Docking Pins for Desk / GPS cradle accessories.
Nice little kit 'travel case' with high-quality headset, USB cable and wall plug.
Trackpad that actually works really well / Wake On Trackpad (iPhone-style).
Perfect GPS, like the G2.
Better Camera App than stock Android.
Dedicated Camera Key is really nice!
LED Flash performs much better than the G2's.
Better UI for adjusting Times in Clocks / Calendars (iPhone-style scrollwheels).
Better Copy and Paste, ripped directly from iOS.
Neat 'New Sense' features: Flip on-call to speaker; flip while ringing to silent; louder in-pocket; softer when picked up.
Pretty HTC eye-candy widgets / the infamous Clock!
Cons
Again with the Hardware 'Silent' Switch!
Carrier Bloat.
HTC Gallery sucks (no Picasa support!?).
DLNA sharing is too hard to set up / doesn't work very well.
QIK blows for Video Chat.
HTC Lock Screen sucks (no Froyo Lock Screen option).
Media Playback is - again - abysmal compared to the Vibrant.
'MyFaves' is useless and locked to the Dock Launcher.
HTC's Contacts App is bloated, slow and completely annoying ('T-Mobile' account syncing? Yuck!).
Small amount of storage.
'Genius' Button is pretentious and mostly useless. Lack of a Search Button is really, really, really annoying.
Lock Button is too recessed on most units.
Battery Door breaks fingernails.
Speaker quality is not amazing (but better than the G2's).
Phone is kind of a mish-mash of designs / isn't as pretty as the N1.
Typical HTC Quality-Control Issues (dead pixel / some screens kinda meh / FFC is sometimes not aligned with cut-out hole).
Over the course of the past few months, finding the 'perfect' Android phone has been super difficult for me. The G2 was almost it, but I couldn't get over how cheap / annoying that hinge felt. I loved the feel of the keyboard, and ended up using it a lot, but I prefer slate phones. That said, I think 4" is the sweet spot, and it's annoying that T-Mo and HTC opted to downsize the otherwise-Desire-HD myTouch 4G into the 3.7" form-factor.
If I could sum up my reason for sticking with the myTouch 4G, it would be: "Everything on it just works (for once)". There are no 'GPS/Lag Fix' bugs to worry about, and there isn't much hardware on it that would potentially fail. It has neat little nerdy features like FM radio, and in general, is a little powerhouse. It feels like a device that has been in the making for a while.
If you're just looking for a super-solid Android phone, I can't think of a better one than the myTouch 4G, right now (and I've thought about jumping ship to other carriers / played with every phone). Some nice docks are on the way, and T-Mo is actually going to support this phone. I like it a lot.
However, if you have any interest or need in watching movies, this is not your device. This is really annoying for me, as I like to watch shows on breaks / commutes; but it's something I'll just have to get over. The Vibrant was like a bad-ass little plasma TV that could play anything I loaded onto the 16GB internal memory, and it's hard to not have that capability on other devices.
If I could do it all over again, even knowing about and having handled a Nexus S (which is solid-feeling, if you had any fears based on the Vibrant), I'd probably still pick the myTouch 4G. It just feels so solid and well-designed. The 'Genius Button' is probably the biggest deal-breaker for me, besides 'MyFaves'. Other than that, I really love MySense with all of the 'New Sense' features.
I say: myTouch 4G (and I feel as if I give all devices a fair shake / run through the discrimination chamber).
Hope that helps a little. Enjoy your phone!
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if it comes down to someone who likes to flash roms is the mytouch 4g still better ?
And do ya know which of the 2 phones can overclock more
If you live by flashing ROMs, then I'd go for the G2 since it has the keyboard (no need for ADB in some cases) and Cyanogen is personally maintaining his distro on that unit the last I checked. I've flashed my G1 and Nexus One, and at this point I have no desire to do it again; I like what the myTouch 4G offers, even if it does have a bit too much bloatware for my liking.
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If you live by flashing ROMs, then I'd go for the G2 since it has the keyboard (no need for ADB in some cases) and Cyanogen is personally maintaining his distro on that unit the last I checked. I've flashed my G1 and Nexus One, and at this point I have no desire to do it again; I like what the myTouch 4G offers, even if it does have a bit too much bloatware for my liking.
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Oh okk which phone has better battery life anyway?
student.driver said:
If you live by flashing ROMs, then I'd go for the G2 since it has the keyboard (no need for ADB in some cases) and Cyanogen is personally maintaining his distro on that unit the last I checked. I've flashed my G1 and Nexus One, and at this point I have no desire to do it again; I like what the myTouch 4G offers, even if it does have a bit too much bloatware for my liking.
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Everyone has an opinion and I think this is a false statement. There are many people with the MT4G flashing and it is easy with root to remove any bloatware you want.
the iced glacier ROM is very good ROM basically a stock ROM with bloatware removed and a OC kernel capable to 1.7 Ghz. Everything works.
We also have 2 new developers who have in the past ported CM to other devices and their devices have already been shipped to them.
And about ADB what is this about? Having a physical or soft keyboard makes no different on which method you use send commands to the system.
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Everyone has an opinion and I think this is a false statement. There are many people with the MT4G flashing and it is easy with root to remove any bloatware you want.
the iced glacier ROM is very good ROM basically a stock ROM with bloatware removed and a OC kernel capable to 1.7 Ghz. Everything works.
We also have 2 new developers who have in the past ported CM to other devices and their devices have already been shipped to them.
And about ADB what is this about? Having a physical or soft keyboard makes no different on which method you use send commands to the system.
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1.7?. Can't wait til I get my mytouch but doesn't it kill the battery quicker?
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1.7?. Can't wait til I get my mytouch but doesn't it kill the battery quicker?
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You just set up profiles with set CPU and use on demand scaling and set other profiles like for when the screen is off set to 368 mhz etc. Battery life on mine is better than with the G2 and I think it should with a 1500 ma battery.
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You just set up profiles with set CPU and use on demand scaling and set other profiles like for when the screen is off set to 368 mhz etc. Battery life on mine is better than with the G2 and I think it should with a 1500 ma battery.
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Cool . How lonq does it last ? But from what I know doesn't the g2 have 1300 ma nd the mytouch 1400 ma tho
hey guys,
i was browsing for almost 2 weeks to know if mytouch 4g is good or not, i had a nexus one and i sold it today to get mytouch 4g or nexus s, i read a lot of comment about nexus s make me go away from it and i read a lot of comment make me love the mytouch 4g, then today after i sold my nexus one i saw this topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894953
i saw a lot of ppl said the mytouch have a fuzzy screen and bad battery life i don't know what to do now please i need some advice, i really don't like to open a new topic because like i said almost 2 weeks browsing and i sold my nexus already to get my touch, some advice please go for mytouch 4g or nexus s .
thanks
All devices have positive and negative points, but it's up to you to weigh them and decide what works best for you.
If you've been browsing for two weeks, then you should know the differences in the screen types and what to look for as well as what to either accept or avoid. Battery life varies depending on use and settings applied, especially for the modders and tweakers that exist in these forums.
Since you are in the Glacier section, I doubt there will be anyone who recommends that you get a Nexus S. In fact, if you read the Nexus S forum, there will probably be the same type of complaints that you find here as well as every other device section. No device is perfect, but to many of us the MT4G is the best of what is currently available on the market.
You will end up in this same predicament no matter which phone you get in the months ahead when yet new phones are released, so choose what ends up making you the happiest for now.
Thanks dude, ur comment is perfect, I always say there no phone will come to us complete, the companies can't do this and if they do this mean they will close, the only thing I am trying to do to improve my phone and get something higher and stay with it for at least 2 years or so, wating for new baby and want to stope spending on crap, that's why I decided to change and sold my nexus.
Thanks again
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Man I had the g2 there is no way I would trade for the g2 no way
Honestly I think it's almost a toss up between the NS or MT4G. I have the MT4G and I am absolutely in love with it. Build quality is awesome and has everything you could want. Even camera quality was better than expected. And now that there's more devlopers jumping on this phone then the sky is the limit for this.
BUT, I am very intruged with the Nexus S. I love the SuperAmoled screen on it and I know everyone bags on Samsung phones being made out of plastic, that's what I love about it. Plastic phone = really lightweight. I don't care if it's plastic or metal like the MT4G because I put a case on any phone I get anyways. The MT4G with my little plastic case can be a tad bit heavier than the NS so that's totally up to you if you want a lighter phone or a heavier feel. Right now there is no 720p HD video capture on the NS which to me is mind boggling. I'm sure hackers will find a way around that though. One thing also is that it has no dedicated camera button on the side like the MT4G. For me I love to have a dedicated camera button. Also there's no expandable micro SD card slot in the NS, so take that into consideration as well.
So overall I would give the MT4G the edge, especially that it's 4G capable unlike the Nexus S and also has an optical track pad and most importantly has about 250 more mb's of RAM than the Nexus S. But honestly, you can't go wrong with either. Just play with each of them for like 10 minutes and I'm sure you can make your decision after then.
Hope this helps!
Biggest strike against the Nexus S is Samsung. I came over from a Vibrant and will NEVER purchase another phone made by Samsung. Average hardware (build quality and feel) with HORRIBLE software support. Now, with the Nexus S being a Google experience phone it takes the Samsung software support out of the equation, but it's still not a leap forward by any means (read the reviews).
I will miss the SuperAmoled display, but nothing else.
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Honestly I think it's almost a toss up between the NS or MT4G. I have the MT4G and I am absolutely in love with it. Build quality is awesome and has everything you could want. Even camera quality was better than expected. And now that there's more devlopers jumping on this phone then the sky is the limit for this.
BUT, I am very intruged with the Nexus S. I love the SuperAmoled screen on it and I know everyone bags on Samsung phones being made out of plastic, that's what I love about it. Plastic phone = really lightweight. I don't care if it's plastic or metal like the MT4G because I put a case on any phone I get anyways. The MT4G with my little plastic case can be a tad bit heavier than the NS so that's totally up to you if you want a lighter phone or a heavier feel. Right now there is no 720p HD video capture on the NS which to me is mind boggling. I'm sure hackers will find a way around that though. One thing also is that it has no dedicated camera button on the side like the MT4G. For me I love to have a dedicated camera button. Also there's no expandable micro SD card slot in the NS, so take that into consideration as well.
So overall I would give the MT4G the edge, especially that it's 4G capable unlike the Nexus S and also has an optical track pad and most importantly has about 250 more mb's of RAM than the Nexus S. But honestly, you can't go wrong with either. Just play with each of them for like 10 minutes and I'm sure you can make your decision after then.
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Thanks dude, i tried both of them the feeling is so different, i feel mytouch is so hard device specially made by HTC, my wife had a vibrant and it was soooo slow and i couldn't do nothing to make it fast specially she don't like root or stuff like that so i sold it for her and get her a G2, my feeling go to mytouch i can't go to plastic phone after my nexus i always say samsung just screen, so i feel i will go with mytouch
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Biggest strike against the Nexus S is Samsung. I came over from a Vibrant and will NEVER purchase another phone made by Samsung. Average hardware (build quality and feel) with HORRIBLE software support. Now, with the Nexus S being a Google experience phone it takes the Samsung software support out of the equation, but it's still not a leap forward by any means (read the reviews).
I will miss the SuperAmoled display, but nothing else.
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same feeling like u dude 1+
Get the MT4, the 2nd gen snapdragon makes web scrolling so smooth that once the phone oced to 1.4 you almost feel like iOS.
The cpu in the vibrant or ns on the other hand is a piece of ****, it'll have the best gpu but that cpu makes web scrolling feel like crap. Choppy at best and slideshow in most cases.
Look at the video after 5:00 mark i think, is a joke and i don't have the patience to wait for the development to pick up because AT THIS POINT IN TIME, anything coming out will be better than the NS so in summary if you have almost $600 to burn then yeah go ahead if you value your money then get the MT for cheap and upgrade later on to a better phone.
If you don't mind the branding, MT4 is better than nexus one in many ways.
1. more storage for applications (the most important)
2. wifi calling (it's useless if you don't use T-Mobile)
3. a bit larger screen, but you may encounter quality issue
4. physical buttons (it's also user's preference)
5. 720p video recording
6. secondary cam
You want nexus one if:
1. you have grandfathered internet (t-zones, tmoweb, and total internet)
2. you want minimal branding
3. AMOLED screen
4. fastest possible software update
Agree whith ^ message
It's way worth it to get a cheap my4g and mod it, then upgrade when smth better comes up.
I loove the samoled, but won't give up on 4G for that.
Thanks guys, my point for right now to get a device to stay with me for a little bit i really don't care about gaming and stuff so i am not waiting for Tegra 2, i will go to tmobile store and get the phone from there so if i see this issue in the screen i will return it and get another one till i get good one
I had the Vibrant and I have to say the hardware is awesome. But damn Samsung ruined it with their software. IMHO the MT4G is one of the best if not the best phone on the market right now. It has so much going for it; 4G, FFC, almost double the OC'd speed and CM support.
I am going with mt4g, I have a feeling this phone is awesome, thanks guys for all this advices
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I had the Vibrant and I have to say the hardware is awesome. But damn Samsung ruined it with their software. IMHO the MT4G is one of the best if not the best phone on the market right now. It has so much going for it; 4G, FFC, almost double the OC'd speed and CM support.
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what fcc means? thanks
You mean FFC = front facing camera
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Had the MT4G for 3 days now and im really impressed.Ive been a winmo user all this time and had the chance to use android on my HD2.i was blown away on how android runs.that made me buy a Nexus One,but the ram was small for me to install apps so had to trade it luckily someone wanted my N1 for his Vibrant.we traded straight up and after a couple of days got tired of the Vibrant.Samsung doesnt really get a lot of support compare to HTC.sold the Vibrant and got the MT4G on an upgrade.
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Had the MT4G for 3 days now and im really impressed.Ive been a winmo user all this time and had the chance to use android on my HD2.i was blown away on how android runs.that made me buy a Nexus One,but the ram was small for me to install apps so had to trade it luckily someone wanted my N1 for his Vibrant.we traded straight up and after a couple of days got tired of the Vibrant.Samsung doesnt really get a lot of support compare to HTC.sold the Vibrant and got the MT4G on an upgrade.
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pretty much same thing I've done, but alittle bit longer I guess.
Iphone 3gs unlocked traded for nexus one...straight up trade
nexus one traded for an iphone 4 32gb, straight up trade
iphone 4 32gb trade for iphone 4 16gb plus $200
iphone 4 16gb sold $500
purchased vibrant for $160.....unlocked it and rooted LOVE it....selling today for $280..... purchased mytouch 4g brand new never opened for $ 275. It has the good screen !! Now trying to decided to if I should unlock it and use it on my current carrier or goto tmobile?
currently: 500 minutes, unlimited text/data....$55 w/ tax. Plus my wife is on this carrier and free minutes. Lot of them to her...
pros... priced for life can & no contract, free minutes to wife
cons: can't upgrade to new phone, have to buy out right. Typically using tmobile phones since 3g services work.
Tmobile.. 500 minutes, unlimited text data, $59.99 plus a 12% discount through employer.
Pros: 4g service, drop internet service at home save $30/month
cons: may have to watch my minutes
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Iphone 3gs unlocked traded for nexus one...straight up trade
nexus one traded for an iphone 4 32gb, straight up trade
iphone 4 32gb trade for iphone 4 16gb plus $200
iphone 4 16gb sold $500
tmobile phones since 3g services work.
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an iphone 4 32GB for a nexus one? a straight trade? Oh you got real lucky!
yes I think I was lucky on that since the person I traded with was looking to use it on the same carrier. I need to quit playing with phones, its an addiction!!
Anyone considering this phone? The Nexus S is my first Android phone which I purchased in December of 2010 and to be honest its been average. Browser and keyboard lag is tough to deal with. When the phone works it's great though.
My biggest issue is typing. Coming from blackberry I just can't type efficiently on this thing and I think the Qwerty on the my touch 4g slide might help. Just wanted some opinions from people who have used multiple android devices. Thanks.
NAZology said:
Anyone considering this phone? The Nexus S is my first Android phone which I purchased in December of 2010 and to be honest its been average. Browser and keyboard lag is tough to deal with. When the phone works it's great though.
My biggest issue is typing. Coming from blackberry I just can't type efficiently on this thing and I think the Qwerty on the my touch 4g slide might help. Just wanted some opinions from people who have used multiple android devices. Thanks.
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its going to be a very nice phone. I think if you are a keyboard type person there wont be a better option. Itll run like a beast too.
I dont think I can go back to a keyboard. I blame the nexus s. Swype saves lives
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I dont think I can go back to a keyboard. I blame the nexus s. Swype saves lives
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I dont know why I still cant get the hang of swype.
as well Ill be getting this phone for my GF, she refuses to not have a keyboard. if I was to go back to t-mobile myself Id be gettign this phone as well
I am on T-Mobile and have very good service and want the slide but due to.the att I am not getting it my dad is.letting.me switch to.Sprint,as soon as the new.nexus comes.out I'm switching
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Drzfr3shboialex said:
I am on T-Mobile and have very good service and want the slide but due to.the att I am not getting it my dad is.letting.me switch to.Sprint,as soon as the new.nexus comes.out I'm switching
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what.are.you.talking.like.this.for.
Only bad thing about getting the mytouch 4g sslide is that it won't get the newest updates like nexus line...I agree tthough about android keyboard ... nexus s was my first android phone and only thing I don't like is the browser and keyboard ..I came from an iPhone so I was used to on-screen keyboard
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what.are.you.talking.like.this.for.
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I imagine they're using the gingerbread keyboard or something. I have a tendancy to hit the period rather than space a lot on the gingerbread keyboard
acesofbelkan said:
I imagine they're using the gingerbread keyboard or something. I have a tendancy to hit the period rather than space a lot on the gingerbread keyboard
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Yeah lol its annoying.
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Just got this phone, and happy to say it ships S-OFF. Rom is dated Jun 27, so they didn't have much time to flash em and box em up.
How did you get one!?!?!?!?!!?!!
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Just got this phone, and happy to say it ships S-OFF. Rom is dated Jun 27, so they didn't have much time to flash em and box em up.
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enoch861 said:
How did you get one!?!?!?!?!!?!!
ScottC said:
Just got this phone, and happy to say it ships S-OFF.
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More to the point: Is this a retail phone, just like everyone gets? Does S-OFF mean that we'll be able to root and flash it at launch? I keep trying to find confirmation that the bootloader will be unlocked (or not) at launch, but this is the closest I've found, so far. Is there any official word from HTC or T-Mobile somewhere?
Upgraded
I've had the 3g sllide for some time now and i like it it's a decent phone but still, newer, faster, more hardware cap. is simply better... point blank period. I'm excited for the upgrade since i really dont want to leave the mytouch family and it's a must that i have keyboard. But the specs are looking good!, and since the glacier has achieved S-off i fairly certain that this will achieve perma-root about 3 hrs after official release (chuckles to self) if not sooner. I'm excited for what this forum will produce along with my very own venture into ginger bread app development
GET EXCITED
p.s
g+ damn u lol
ScottC said:
Just got this phone, and happy to say it ships S-OFF. Rom is dated Jun 27, so they didn't have much time to flash em and box em up.
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This was the one thing holding me back from placing a preorder... but now that I know HTC lived up to their word I'm ordering one now! Thanks!
Retail demo unit ships with S-on
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This phone looks pretty sweet. I had the MyTouch 3G Slide and the MyTouch 4G. Both were great phones. This phone is pretty much a MyTouch 4G with the internal components of a Sensation and the keyboard of a 3G Slide. I prefer the screen and sleekness of the Sensation but if you need a keyboard I'd be all over it.
I suspect this phone will be S-OFFed once AlphaRev finishes the Sensation/Evo3D tool. Otherwise you're waiting till at least September for the official unlock.
It's shipped S-ON sadly , that mean's we can't flash custom roms correct ?
joeyklatzko said:
This phone looks pretty sweet. I had the MyTouch 3G Slide and the MyTouch 4G. Both were great phones. This phone is pretty much a MyTouch 4G with the internal components of a Sensation and the keyboard of a 3G Slide. I prefer the screen and sleekness of the Sensation but if you need a keyboard I'd be all over it.
I suspect this phone will be S-OFFed once AlphaRev finishes the Sensation/Evo3D tool. Otherwise you're waiting till at least September for the official unlock.
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It's shipped S-ON sadly , that mean's we can't flash custom roms correct ?
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Correct. Hopefully not for long!
I just received my Khaki today. I pre-ordered on the 19th.
Pretty amazing device in my book. It isn't perfect but, coming from a 3G Slide it's a monster of a phone.
The Good:
Far and away better keyboard. It has a chiclet like feel to it and is much easier and faster to type on than the 3G Slide with plenty of feedback.
The screen is very pretty, easy to read, and I have no problem with the slightly lower resolution as it does not hinder the phone in any way. Very easy to type on the screen too. I was pretty taken back at how incredibly accurate the sensitivity was compared to the 3GS
Nice camera, it isn't an N8 nor will it replace my T3i but, it does offer partial manual controls and you can adjust the exposure +-2 stops for camera and video. Hopefully an update or hack will let you control shutter speed in the future. FYI, ISO is from 100 to 800. Images look a little grainy to me but, I'm coming from a T3i for comparison which isn't very fair.
FM radio is a nice touch and it works just fine.
Call/Voice quality is very good. It sounds better than the 3GS as a whole. It is louder and clearer with less echo and background noise. It does sound a little harsh at high volume but, still better than the 3GS. Let's just say it isn't a Glimmer but, that phone sounds better than any land-line I've heard so again not a fair comparison. However, I was complimented on how much clearer my voice was on the other end of the line and I could hear the other person a lot better than before.
Reception seems/felt a little better than the 3G Slide. Not a great deal better but, I was getting 2 bars of 3G (which oddly shows up as 4G) in a location where I normally get 1 bar. Also, I didn't have to manually set the phone to WCDMA for it to pick it up.
HTC Flashlight app is in here and it uses both LED's
Wifi Hotspot widget is in here too.
Trackpad button thing is so much nicer than the 3GS and it has this neat illumination thing that goes on when it's charging. It isn't bright though, you almost need to be at an angle to see it, it's very subtle but the coolest thing ever.
genius button still says "please wait" but, it's infinitely faster than the 3GS. LOL. if it wasn't I'd probably rip someones head off.
Grip of the phone is excellent, atleast with the Khaki. It feels sooooo good in your hand and isn't going to slip and fall near as many times as the 3GS or many other phones I've owned before. It has a good weight to it and is much lighter by itself than my 3GS with a case.
Feels like a sturdy phone and does have some good construction around the frame for protection. There is also metal around the lens itself as there should be.
What's this for?
The Not So Good:
Well, I'm worried about scratching the camera lens. I don't know that I ever will and I'm assuming it's made of good glass but it does protrude a bit on the back. There is metal all around it for protection but all it would take is that one certain drop to smash it.
The camera could be better. I mean it does pretty well but, images are just a little grainy to me and I would like to see full manual controls or at least shutter speed control. I don't think there is any real zoom, just digital and I have no idea who makes the lens.
Video recording could be better as well. There is some rolling shutter but, even the DSLR's have that. To me it didn't look like the camera was shooting at 24fps, it didn't look as low as 15 but it didn't look like 24 or 30 either. I could be mistaken about the whole thing though as it could just be that when you record you are only seeing 15 fps but, when you playback you see the full frame rate. I really need more time to play with the phone to give a definite opinion/verdict here. All that being said there is a lot of potential here with the software. I also wonder if using a class 6 or higher memory card will help as well.
*Did a few tests and dropped in a class 6 card. I don't know that it made any difference but I had no problem recording in 1080p and it looked fine to me so I'm thinking it's just that when you are recording the visual feedback you get is only like 15fps or something but when you play back it's the full 24-30 or whatever.*
Although the screen size is 3.7 inches vs the 3GS' 3.4 they are both the same width. So I feel a little fooled about the size of the screen, however it is a good bit taller and the higher resolution and cleaner looking image quality, partially make up for it. I don't feel like "man, this screen is too small" I feel more like "well, it would be nice if it really were a tad wider but, it looks so nice and is a lot taller so I can't really complain"
Bloatware/Bloat. Not really a fault of the hardware but, I do hope HTC slims down sense footprint, and I could do without some of the T-mobile apps that no one will ever use.
Lag. There is some but, I hardly notice it enough to care and I'm sure that will be fixed once we get an update/hack/rom or two.
Final Thoughts
I'm keeping this baby. There is no way I'm sending this back unless there is some kind of major hardware failure or something. There just isn't anything else at T-Mobile that covers all the things "I want" in a cell phone.
icoman said:
I just received my Khaki today. I pre-ordered on the 19th.
Pretty amazing device in my book. It isn't perfect but, coming from a 3G Slide it's a monster of a phone.
The Good:
Far and away better keyboard. It has a chiclet like feel to it and is much easier and faster to type on than the 3G Slide with plenty of feedback.
The screen is very pretty, easy to read, and I have no problem with the slightly lower resolution as it does not hinder the phone in any way. Very easy to type on the screen too. I was pretty taken back at how incredibly accurate the sensitivity was compared to the 3GS
Nice camera, it isn't an N8 nor will it replace my T3i but, it does offer partial manual controls and you can adjust the exposure +-2 stops for camera and video. Hopefully an update or hack will let you control shutter speed in the future. FYI, ISO is from 100 to 800. Images look a little grainy to me but, I'm coming from a T3i for comparison which isn't very fair.
FM radio is a nice touch and it works just fine.
Call/Voice quality is very good. It sounds better than the 3GS as a whole. It is louder and clearer with less echo and background noise. It does sound a little harsh at high volume but, still better than the 3GS. Let's just say it isn't a Glimmer but, that phone sounds better than any land-line I've heard so again not a fair comparison. However, I was complimented on how much clearer my voice was on the other end of the line and I could hear the other person a lot better than before.
Reception seems/felt a little better than the 3G Slide. Not a great deal better but, I was getting 2 bars of 3G (which oddly shows up as 4G) in a location where I normally get 1 bar. Also, I didn't have to manually set the phone to WCDMA for it to pick it up.
HTC Flashlight app is in here and it uses both LED's
Wifi Hotspot widget is in here too.
Trackpad button thing is so much nicer than the 3GS and it has this neat illumination thing that goes on when it's charging. It isn't bright though, you almost need to be at an angle to see it, it's very subtle but the coolest thing ever.
genius button still says "please wait" but, it's infinitely faster than the 3GS. LOL. if it wasn't I'd probably rip someones head off.
Grip of the phone is excellent, atleast with the Khaki. It feels sooooo good in your hand and isn't going to slip and fall near as many times as the 3GS or many other phones I've owned before. It has a good weight to it and is much lighter by itself than my 3GS with a case.
Feels like a sturdy phone and does have some good construction around the frame for protection. There is also metal around the lens itself as there should be.
What's this for?
The Not So Good:
Well, I'm worried about scratching the camera lens. I don't know that I ever will and I'm assuming it's made of good glass but it does protrude a bit on the back. There is metal all around it for protection but all it would take is that one certain drop to smash it.
The camera could be better. I mean it does pretty well but, images are just a little grainy to me and I would like to see full manual controls or at least shutter speed control. I don't think there is any real zoom, just digital and I have no idea who makes the lens.
Video recording could be better as well. There is some rolling shutter but, even the DSLR's have that. To me it didn't look like the camera was shooting at 24fps, it didn't look as low as 15 but it didn't look like 24 or 30 either. I could be mistaken about the whole thing though as it could just be that when you record you are only seeing 15 fps but, when you playback you see the full frame rate. I really need more time to play with the phone to give a definite opinion/verdict here. All that being said there is a lot of potential here with the software. I also wonder if using a class 6 or higher memory card will help as well.
*Did a few tests and dropped in a class 6 card. I don't know that it made any difference but I had no problem recording in 1080p and it looked fine to me so I'm thinking it's just that when you are recording the visual feedback you get is only like 15fps or something but when you play back it's the full 24-30 or whatever.*
Although the screen size is 3.7 inches vs the 3GS' 3.4 they are both the same width. So I feel a little fooled about the size of the screen, however it is a good bit taller and the higher resolution and cleaner looking image quality, partially make up for it. I don't feel like "man, this screen is too small" I feel more like "well, it would be nice if it really were a tad wider but, it looks so nice and is a lot taller so I can't really complain"
Bloatware/Bloat. Not really a fault of the hardware but, I do hope HTC slims down sense footprint, and I could do without some of the T-mobile apps that no one will ever use.
Lag. There is some but, I hardly notice it enough to care and I'm sure that will be fixed once we get an update/hack/rom or two.
Final Thoughts
I'm keeping this baby. There is no way I'm sending this back unless there is some kind of major hardware failure or something. There just isn't anything else at T-Mobile that covers all the things "I want" in a cell phone.
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Appreciate this! Keep us up to date with the pros and cons!
Ok so here is the question. I have a choice of those 3 and I am not certain which way to go. I am looking for suggestions that you all have from using the devices and I will provide some sort of criteria so you can give me a better idea.
1. A UI that is intuitive and not a royal pain in the rear to deal with.
2. Seeing as I tend to like to take photo's and watch Movies I would like a device that has a wide range of files it can play but also has a Very good screen and doesn't suffer from banding of lines through the screen and also has good viewability while out doors.
3. Takes good photos and video.
4. I don't care if I have LTE or not considering I am on a 200MB data plan and ALWAYS turn off data unless I Need it when I am out and even than I look for Wi-Fi first.
5. I would Like FM Radio but not a Deal Breaker just like I would Like NFC but again not a deal breaker.
6. Has good Volume when listening through headphones. Don't care so much about external speaker.
7. Has good record at keeping up with Google OS Updates as in ICS and such
Also for those who will say Wait for a different device to come out, that is not an option considering I am running out of time to make a decision within the 30 day return window. I think I have like 8 days left.
Anyway I await information about what you all think and thanks in advance to all who do answer.
None of the above. Import a Galaxy Note instead, it bests all 3 of those. 5.3" AMOLED 1280x800 resolution with a 1.4 GHz Exynos chip.
The SkyRocket is basically the SGS2 with a larger screen. I would choose either of the Samsungs before I would an HTC. I don't much care for the low-quality HTC brand.
droid razr seems awesome!
Well i think the Notes out since it looks like you will be buying on contract. If you are buying off contract i would recommend the Galaxy nexus which comes out this week and should be available for import soon
The skyrocket is like the galaxy s2 except it has a 4.5 in. Super amoled plus display and 1. 5ghz dual core. If you like to watch movies or videos on your phone then go for the skyrocket
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if you are on AT&T you can use any device you want
i'll go for the Galaxy Note if i were you, else the LTE Sky**** is pretty decent
oohh oops that was an internal joke
I love my GS2. I think a Galaxy Note would be cool, but I can't imagine a phone with that big a screen. I'm liking the 4.3 vs the 3.5 on my previous iPhone 4
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The SkyRocket is basically the SGS2 with a larger screen. I would choose either of the Samsungs before I would an HTC. I don't much care for the low-quality HTC brand.
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I am confused by this post.
According to you... Samsung's plastic phones are of higher quality then HTCs aluminum uni body phones?
Please explain how u came to this conclusion lol? Please stop spreading BS... average consumer is already ill informed as it is...
The vivid is plastic too, so HTC has no advantages there IRT build quality.
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HTC phones have a much sturdier build quality than any other phone manufacturer I know.
OK so a little confused by the galaxy note. Looks like it is released in the UK so I can't get it as I am on att network in the US so I am limited to phones that are available there.
I hate to say it but if i were buying now it would be a Samsung. I don't like plasticky phones, but i do like phones that have quality components, i.e Power buttons that don't die every few months of use, speakers that you can actually hear, or digitizers that don't start registering touches across the screen from where you actually touch it.
Have HTC released a phone yet with a camera that's on par with the ones found in other manufacturers devices, or one that doesn't run through an entire battery in under 4 hours of use? Do thay release devices with beautiful SAMOLED + screens?
which one would you prefer？pick up you prefer one
Made my choice, out of the 3 I went with the vivid. The build quality is there, fills solid in hand. The battery life is decent (1620 mah) and the screen is much sharper than the skyrocket's. Not everyone likes the oversaturated samoleds, and I didn't want to end up with a wvga screen (stretched to 4.5" looks really bad in my opinion) especially now, when all new highend devices of 2012 will have high resolution.
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and you still have 30 days
I was at the At&t store checking out the Galaxy S2, S2 Skyrocket, and the HTC Vivid. I can see why there are many who are fans of the Galaxy S2 phones. The Galaxy S2 is skinny, light in weight, vibrant screen, and has a large battery. However I ultimately believed the Vivid is a better phone for what I was looking for. I found GS2 phones feeling a bit cheap on the outer casing. The plastic felt too thin all the way around and didn't feel very solid. The color on the screen looks very very impressive but often feels unnatural and over saturated (like putting contrast on your TV all the way up). Particularly on the Skyrocket, the WVGA resolution feels very inadequate for screens 4.5 inches and above. You literally can see pixels as they look over stretched on 4.5 and qHD just do a much better job at that size. What really pushed me to the Vivid was that Sense just feel and functions much better to me than Samsung's TouchWiz to an otherwize an impressive hardware.
But either way, both phones will accomplish (pretty much) any task just the same
Edit: looks like you made your pick, good choice
I would leave AT&T! they get crappy android phones. I left AT&T for T-Mobile and got the HTC Sensation 4G and love it, and my bill is half the price of AT&T's now
The vivid does 1080p at 60fps. That's reason enough for some people to get it. I'm Considering dropping tmobile for AT&T just for that camcorder on that phone.
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The vivid does 1080p at 60fps. That's reason enough for some people to get it. I'm Considering dropping tmobile for AT&T just for that camcorder on that phone.
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Ok vivid records 1080p in a ****y 3gp with a very low bit rate. It looks terrible.
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