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So I've rooted my phone already, I had updated to the .6 Sprint release and went back to .5 and used that method. My wife's Hero is still on 1.5. I'd like to be able to back up all of her apps before flashing a custom ROM.
My question, is there any drawback to rooting from 1.5 and then installing a custom ROM like Regaw's, or Fresh, or Nfinite's, or CM6? Am I able to do this without first running the .5 RUU? Will I need to manually upgrade the radio if I do this?
Sorry for all the questions, I know how to find all of these root methods, but not sure what method is best to make sure I get everything updated and running properly.
Thanks!
fallonjp said:
So I've rooted my phone already, I had updated to the .6 Sprint release and went back to .5 and used that method. My wife's Hero is still on 1.5. I'd like to be able to back up all of her apps before flashing a custom ROM.
My question, is there any drawback to rooting from 1.5 and then installing a custom ROM like Regaw's, or Fresh, or Nfinite's, or CM6? Am I able to do this without first running the .5 RUU? Will I need to manually upgrade the radio if I do this?
Sorry for all the questions, I know how to find all of these root methods, but not sure what method is best to make sure I get everything updated and running properly.
Thanks!
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You do not need to ruu at all unless you have to take your phone in for service under warranty.
No problems at all. Once you are rooted and have recovery installed you can flash away. Just remember to wipe EVERYTHING in between flashings. It will save u a ton of annoyances.
My opinion is go straight to CM6 it is amazingly fast and stable. Just in case you dont know the link to the IRC channel for CM6 here it is: http://webchat.bikcmp.com:9090/?channels=hero-cdma
Welcome to the HERO and be careful. Flashing is VERY addictive.
So I want to do the new sw update but can't because I deleted some stock apps so the checksum wouldn't match and a hard reset won't restore them I guess so I would flash a stock rom but am I right thinking there isn't one yet? So how can I get to an original rom and then update or maybe make the new update work?
D2G stock rom
I don't know if the update will be compatible or not but from my understanding this is pretty much the stock rom that Motorola handed Verizon to put all their bloatware on then release the phone. I did load this rom on my d2g and it works flawlessly. Might be worth a try, not a direct link but will get you headed in the right direction. The rom manager gives you the opportunity to load the barebones stock google rom or the Vanilla based version, it just downloads and flashes, works perfect I didn't even have to re-activate. It is already pre-rooted so maybe the update won't work but I just wanted to make you aware of it. I work at verizon and did the update to the floor model and my dad's stock d2g also and didn't notice any difference really. I think vzw is just fixing some of the bugs that they created anyway so having the stock rom may end up with the same result, a rom that functions perfectly, good luck!.......droidforums.net/forum/droid-x-roms/106629-rom-fission-2-4-droidx-vanilla-generic-android-aosp-like-fission-rom-manager.html
@evil yeah im kind of in the same boat, let me know if srensber solution works for you.
I froze a bunch of apps with Titanium Backup and renamed some stuff with Root Explorer. I recently just re-named everything i changed back to the factory stuff (bak -> apk) but it still doesnt seem to do any good.
I did create a number of back ups using Rom manager but i cant seem to find out where they are located and how to restore them. hmm. Not sure what to do.
Ah i realize what ive done wrong ... i didnt know you had to have bootstrap installed along with clockwork recoveryy in order to make a backup hmm. Going to need a rom of stock d2g lol.
clockwork recovery installs a boot hijack, which might be the culpirt
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I don't know if the update will be compatible or not but from my understanding this is pretty much the stock rom that Motorola handed Verizon to put all their bloatware on then release the phone. I did load this rom on my d2g and it works flawlessly. Might be worth a try, not a direct link but will get you headed in the right direction. The rom manager gives you the opportunity to load the barebones stock google rom or the Vanilla based version, it just downloads and flashes, works perfect I didn't even have to re-activate. It is already pre-rooted so maybe the update won't work but I just wanted to make you aware of it. I work at verizon and did the update to the floor model and my dad's stock d2g also and didn't notice any difference really. I think vzw is just fixing some of the bugs that they created anyway so having the stock rom may end up with the same result, a rom that functions perfectly, good luck!.......droidforums.net/forum/droid-x-roms/106629-rom-fission-2-4-droidx-vanilla-generic-android-aosp-like-fission-rom-manager.html
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I cant seem to find the download link anywhere... and after you loaded this rom did you try to update to 2.4.3 ?
If anyone else has any input about this please help!
Well I ordered a G2X the other day and finally I received it. It came with Gingerbread 2.3.3 from the factory. (worked flawlessly) Keep reading.
After a couple days I wanted to try out CM7 on it. So, I rooted the phone by using NVflash and doing all that good stuff, then I flashed the phone with (Gingerbread OTA 2.3.3 Rooted flashable zip v1.0.0) I couldn't get root with SuperOneClick so that was my only option. Well I got root and that's when the fun started.
I installed CM7 on it, seemed to run fine, looked fine. But simple me, I wanted to go back to Plane jane 2.3.3 So, I did all the usual stuff (backing up, wiping data, formatting caches), then I ran OneClickRecoveryFlasher...and restored the phone with LG-P999-V10f.zip (supposedly a stock flash for 2.2.2)
well it all seemed to work fine apon finishing. It booted fine, ran ok. However now I have some really bad problems. The major one is that my wifi doesn't work worth a damn now, the connection is highly intermittent. I can't use the market to download apps because it dies out often, along with anything else network related. (browsing works 5% of the time) You catch my drift. My other android phones have no trouble with anything. Now here where it gets weird, I supposedly restored my phone back to stock. However, the phone reports a proper android version 2.2.2 which is what I flashed it to. However it shows kernel 2.6.32.9 Baseband is July 15th 2011. When I use LG's phone update tool it says I am running V21E which is Gingerbread 2.3.3 ...but that's not true because it is actually 2.2.2
I have no clue what to do, I am stuck. I just want to either have a stock G2X running either 2.2.2 or 2.3.3
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Well I ordered a G2X the other day and finally I received it. It came with Gingerbread 2.3.3 from the factory. (worked flawlessly) Keep reading.
After a couple days I wanted to try out CM7 on it. So, I rooted the phone by using NVflash and doing all that good stuff, then I flashed the phone with (Gingerbread OTA 2.3.3 Rooted flashable zip v1.0.0) I couldn't get root with SuperOneClick so that was my only option. Well I got root and that's when the fun started.
I installed CM7 on it, seemed to run fine, looked fine. But simple me, I wanted to go back to Plane jane 2.3.3 So, I did all the usual stuff (backing up, wiping data, formatting caches), then I ran OneClickRecoveryFlasher...and restored the phone with LG-P999-V10f.zip (supposedly a stock flash for 2.2.2)
well it all seemed to work fine apon finishing. It booted fine, ran ok. However now I have some really bad problems. The major one is that my wifi doesn't work worth a damn now, the connection is highly intermittent. I can't use the market to download apps because it dies out often, along with anything else network related. (browsing works 5% of the time) You catch my drift. My other android phones have no trouble with anything. Now here where it gets weird, I supposedly restored my phone back to stock. However, the phone reports a proper android version 2.2.2 which is what I flashed it to. However it shows kernel 2.6.32.9 Baseband is July 15th 2011. When I use LG's phone update tool it says I am running V21E which is Gingerbread 2.3.3 ...but that's not true because it is actually 2.2.2
I have no clue what to do, I am stuck. I just want to either have a stock G2X running either 2.2.2 or 2.3.3
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You are probably going to have use Xboarders ROM then flash the unroot.zip he has in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1158513.
See if that works to get you back to 2.3.3 completely stock.
It says that because it checks the baseband to see how recent it was, that's why it thinks you're on v21e.
As of now, there's no way to flash back to the old baseband, since people don't include the baseband in their ROMs, as that can cause a whole host of problems. The solution is to do exactly what tidewaterns said, that just gives you a little extra background info.
I am going to give this a try and see what happens, I will post results.
Well I tried the slimmed down version of Xboarders's rom and it seems to be working well so far. I originally installed his Stock OTA rom and that's when I started having problems. Oh well. thanks guys for all the help.
Crash course about root and roms: Superoneclick roots the rom you have in place. Flashing xboarders rom didn't "give you root" for the other roms you flashed, it is simply one rom out of many that is pre-rooted by the dev who packaged it up. When you flash it you have a rom that is rooted. If you had flashed CM7 (another rom that provides root access to its system files) then you'd have had a different rom that was pre-rooted by its dev.
Are you catching what I'm saying? Flashing xboarders rom didn't "give you root" any more than CM7 "gave you root." Root is built in to those roms.
If you want to restore to an unrooted stock rom browse the threads in the development section. There are a couple of stock nandroid backups posted that you can restore via clockworkmod recovery and then you'll have a stock unrooted rom. You can even do that and still have clockworkmod recovery in case you want to flash a different rom to your phone again.
And PLEASE remember when flashing from one rom to a different rom, WIPE WIPE WIPE data, cache, dalvik cache, then flash rom, then fix permissions, then reboot. This will save you SO MANY headaches.
G2X CM7
I learned something new Thanks for the info. And yes, this last time when I installed, I wiped and formatted just about everything I could possibly do, including fix permissions..seemed to do the trick.
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I learned something new Thanks for the info. And yes, this last time when I installed, I wiped and formatted just about everything I could possibly do, including fix permissions..seemed to do the trick.
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Sweet! If you're simply updating to a newer version of the same rom you can probably get away with just wiping cache and dalvik cache and then flashing. Its just when you switch to a totally different rom that you need to do a full wipe. Gives you a clean slate to start with.
G2X CM7
I'm curious about one thing though. What would I accomplish by using Nandroid and flashing a bin? I see there is a BIN_LGP999AT-01-V10f-310-260-MAR-27-2011+0.zip file that is available for this phone, although I have no clue on how to install Nandroid. Anyways, wouldn't flashing a BIN be the ultimate way to restore the G2X?
hey guys. Long story short, i had my first captivate for almost more than a year, rooted it and had all the fun with it. Then, the screen cracked, i used my insurance and got a new captivate. But, after 3 months of being super busy... I figured id rather just send the new (unrooted, uncracked) captivate back, get my refund, and go back to using my old captivate, that is already rooted has all my contacts and so on. Now....as i said its been quite a while, so i am definitely rusty. First question is that i remember that since i was rooted i was able to download apk files and install them onto my phone when it waas plugged into my pc. I definitely remember using a program and having to restart the phone and apply changes or something like that. But, i don't remember the name of the program nor how i am actually suppose to do it. Also if someone can point me in the right direction and tell me what update and what not i am supposed to be on. My captivate is just rooted with a lag fix i believe. Yet, its still really slow and laggy, even overclocked... So im hoping that the new updates will be more efficient; in being fast without taking up all my battery. in my "about phone" it reads:
firmware: 2.1 update 1
kernel version 2.6.29
[email protected]#voodoo_lagfix_3.0_v1.10
Build number: ECLAIR
sorry for being so ignorant. Its just that it has been a while, and i don't want to start off my current rooting experience on the wrong foot.
are you referring to "quickboot" for easy rebooting? you may also want to look into Autokiller memory to help kill the junk. I also used ryan's OCLF.
I like you ran a rooted captivate for the longest time. it worked decently but then I tried to go to Gingerbread. MISTAKE. it was laggy bad and very unstable (Used Cezar's ROM). I didnt like it. Flashed back to the 2.2 rom (supposedly stock) and it was terrible compared to how it was. lots of lag and just overall... YUCK.
so yesterday I got the guts to flash a custom rom. I was mad at the phone so I flipped thru several flavors and ended up putting the Phoenix Ultimate (JS7) on it. HOLY S**t Balls mom!!! it was super fast, extremely responsive and worked like a dream. took me a little while to do it, (I had to flash to 2.1 (you are there), root it, cyanogenmod, then Phoenix) but it is SOOOO worth it. super fast now. my wife is asking me to do hers...ugh...
also, all the animations, graphics and just in general. it feels like I got a brand new phone. I could not be happier
thanks for the reply. Haha sounds like you have an iphone status phone now that's what im shooting for; something fast and reliable. Im going to wait and see what the majority of people like on they're captivates. So i am waiting on standby until i know exactly what and how to do it. And no, the program i believe was only on my computer. i would plug in my phone, drop in the apk file.,remove the phone, and do that recovery mode reboot thing on my phone so that the application i just dropped in installs. Sorry if what im saying doesn't make sense like I've said its been a while -.-
the program you are thinking of is the sideload wonder machine
and yes you are on a very outdated version of android, 2.1 (eclair) there has been an official update to 2.2 (froyo) and also many leaks of 2.3.x(gingerbread) but nothing officially from at&t since froyo.
noone can really tell you what you will like best, you will have to do what the rest of us do and read, read, read, then read a bit more, flash a few to try and pick what you like the best....
thank you! it was SWM.
NOW
what is MIUI, cm7 and pinnacle? custom flashes or something? i am also running my current root with launcher pro. Most of everyone on this thread seem happy with their setup as far as smoothness,responsiveness, and battery life go, which is exactly what i want!
MIUI/CM7 are AOSP versions if 2.3.x,aka gingerbread. Pinnacle is a leaked version of Gingerbread, made for the captivate by Samsung.
so gingerbread is the way to go? or rather should i say 2.3.. how hard is it for me to upgrade to 2.3 i noticed that some apps aren't even available to me in the market on 2.1. but still i want the features that 2.3 has. Besides just updating to a version of gingerbread, what are the other common things people do for anti-lag/responsiveness, while still being conservative on the battery aspect.Thanks for all the help so far guys!!!
I wasn't pleased with the gingerbread as of yet. It will get better I'm sure of it. Try out one of the 2.2 based roms as they are the most stable at this point.
Sent from my Phoenix JS7 run Samsung Captivate
so what do i do? Just get one of the 2.2's that a developer on here made? that way it has pre made fixes and stuff like lagfix already in it correct? how do i go about installing that and from where?
This thread is the best start.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=887525
after looking that over, I followed this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884364
and had chosen the Phoenix ROM.
thannks but im still comopletly clueless. What exactly is it that i have to do. I know where to find the .zip rom files, but what is a kernel to a ROM? I really dont get it. does the ROM include the build like 2.2 or 2.3 or what not?
just out of curiosity, do you have AT&T captivate or rogers?
what is Rogers?
Yes. I have AT&T samsung captivate
Rogers is a rom version. You are on stock but rooted. The second link has very easy step by step instructions. The rom u get will have all u need including the kernel and modems
1. Back up ur data with titanium backup. If u don't have it, check market.
2. Flash ur phone with Odin
3. One the flash is done to stock do a master clear with Odin (your phone is on, plugged in and USB debugging)
4. Install the root per directions
5. Copy clockwork and the rom. Of ur choice to ur internal zip
6. Install the clockwork recovery (you run it twice back to back)
7. Run the new rom install with clockwork
I. Phone boots to new rom.
First time it takes about an hour. MAKE SURE YOU READ THE DIRCTIONS IN MY PREVIOUS POST.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
^^Rogers isn't a ROM version. It's a Canadian cell service provider...
thanks for clearing that up. Had no idea what Rogers was lol. Ok so, i guess i just download and install a ROM of my liking? that will also update me to froyo or 2.3 as well? any recommedations as for as ROMS go?
I stand corrected. The rom will upgrade you to what it is based on. The one I use is froyo based. There are gingerbread roms too. Mosaic seems to be a popular one as was Phoenix that I am running. Best advice.. go read those threads. Look at screenshots they have and the user feedback
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
Personally, I'm a huge fan of DesignGears' roms. I'd suggest you go with something like Cognition 5v2. Its 2.3.3, very stable, very fast, and, since you've only used stocks rom up 'til now, it'll be very familiar (minus all the bloatware). He's also got a step by step guide on how to install the rom. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1127578
i was trying to get to use that ROM^^ buuut i had to go to rooted 2.3 first. used this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1127249&page=31
then i hit a problem, i posted on that thread as well still waiting for a response. idk what happened to my phone...this is my post on that thread "ok so i did this and i hit a problem. I got up to the red fish, i turned off the phone to get it into download mode again. and i did, Placed the kernelKF1.tar file in the pda slot and hit start on odin my phone reboots and right after the AT&t logo my screen goes crazy. it looks as if my screen is tripping on acid... and it just keep looping att logo then that. What should i do? i need the files on my phone atleast its not completly bricked"
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I have two questions...
1. I had rooted my A2 when it was 2.3.5 and deleted a few apps. When the OTA update to 2.3.6 rolled around, I couldn't update because ATT is a grouch. Anyway, to solve that problem, I had to flash stock 2.3.5 back onto the phone removing root access and everything. I then proceeded to update to 2.3.6 which is fine. that's running stock as I type this. My question is, if I root it again on 2.3.6 (I know it's there...) and I freeze apps, when another OTA update rolls around, will I be able to update again? I don't want to have to flash it back to 2.3.6...(can I even do that yet?) so any help here would be appreciated.
2. I was out and about, and was looking at one of my friend's phones. She has this HTC HD2 running Android 2.3.3 AOSP. She uses ADWLauncher, etc etc. This is a Windows Phone, originally. That got me thinking...is there a AOSP version of Gingerbread for my A2? Without Blur? I'm kinda scared to do anything to it, because I want to be able to get ICS come July. Any tips here would help.
Sorry for not using the searchbar, I was just having trouble finding this info. Thanks guys!
1. Yes. Freezing apps / removing bloat as root will almost definitely keep you from the any OTA. Its the nature of the beast. You can always return to stock and apply the updates later. Also, any major update like ICS will produce a lot of posts here about how to update from an altered rom.
2. There is development work on getting CM7 to work on our phone. Currently the only released ROM that I am aware of is lfaber06's ROM
SeekerLoki said:
1. Yes. Freezing apps / removing bloat as root will almost definitely keep you from the any OTA. Its the nature of the beast. You can always return to stock and apply the updates later. Also, any major update like ICS will produce a lot of posts here about how to update from an altered rom.
2. There is development work on getting CM7 to work on our phone. Currently the only released ROM that I am aware of is lfaber06's ROM
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When a major update such as ICS is released, there will be alternate ways to install such as through bootstrap. Hopefully we'll find a leaked version of ICS before that, and pull the radio get CM9 working
Okay. So I'm planning on rooting it...now...but when I flashed 2.3.5 from the fxz someone provided, it said that once you updated to 2.3.6 you could never go back...but...
I'll try it.
What's bootstrap? I've heard about it and no one has been able to dumb it down for me...could anyone do that?
You can flash the FXZ after the update. It just requires a bit of modification and care. You might want to read the noob thread. It has lots of useful info.
Bootstrap is a way to backup, restore, and flash zips before android boots.
I just rooted the 2.3.6 it's running wonderfully.
Should I install the ibfaber deoxed rom? I mean I know I can do it per instructions but is it worth it?
It depends on what you want to do. If you want to apply any themes you will need to be running the deoxed rom. He also has a supercharged rom that has a lot more customization.