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as above..
is it really much cooler than SPB MS 2?
i have looked at MS3 and won't be upgrading. Currently running one of the many customised version of MS2 and for me it has everything i need. Yes the cube thing looks swish but useability seems to be coming first for me.
I'm upgrading because it replaces the today screen. On the "lifestyle" home screen, I have the clock, calendar, and frequently used programs. I have the other 2 pages showing the rest of my programs. I find I never have to leave it. The one thing that makes it worthwhile for me is I can see the notification icons on the top bar. That was a major flaw in MS2.
deedee said:
i have looked at MS3 and won't be upgrading. Currently running one of the many customised version of MS2 and for me it has everything i need. Yes the cube thing looks swish but useability seems to be coming first for me.
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I share your view completely. MS2 has everything I need and is more usable than MS3.
well i have it and i think its better than spb mobile 2.0 but atm i still expierence serval bugs so i would wait a while. Why don't you download the trial and try it?
Kinda depends on what you need to do with your phone tbh. Spb 3.0 is in some way a wm replacer
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I'm upgrading because it replaces the today screen. On the "lifestyle" home screen, I have the clock, calendar, and frequently used programs. I have the other 2 pages showing the rest of my programs. I find I never have to leave it. The one thing that makes it worthwhile for me is I can see the notification icons on the top bar. That was a major flaw in MS2.
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i'm with ya on this one, ive tried every homescreen and ui ive come across in the last two years on my p4000 (titan) and this takes the cake. everything i need is on one of the first two pages in the lifestyle menu, and i rarely require more than a swipe and click to access anything i need. the one thing i will be watching for is a better media app, as the one provided is lackluster at best. if anyone comes across one please send me a message or link
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well i have it and i think its better than spb mobile 2.0 but atm i still expierence serval bugs so i would wait a while. Why don't you download the trial and try it?
Kinda depends on what you need to do with your phone tbh. Spb 3.0 is in some way a wm replacer
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As i said i am using a custom MS shell and have everything two/three swipes/clicks away already.
My main progs are on the front and the next batch are on the MRU page.
yes yes yes yes
I am a very satisfied user of my Verizon TP2 (stock rom). It is by far the best phone I've owned.
I was wondering, as I wait for Verizon to release WinMo 6.5, what improvements might I anticipate with this new version? Will there be anything earth shattering or significant?
I just didn't want to be checking the boards everyday, waiting for something that really isn't worth drooling over!
Thanks for your thoughts!
From my experience it benefit you by more eye candies and being exponentially slower. Ofcourse, it will use Sense 2.5 which has more graphic than 2.1. Such as the weather effect on over the entire Today screen.
The organization is strange, the icons are displayed in zigzag order which makes no sense and difficult to navigate. The one thing I like is in file explorer you can select multiple files at once. There are more specific things, but since it is slower and take up more space it is not more practical for me as I do not masturbate to my cellphone. Personally if I was to use 6.5, then I would get a custom rom that has 6.5.5, but with Sense 2.1, such as Calkulin's roms.
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I am a very satisfied user of my Verizon TP2 (stock rom). It is by far the best phone I've owned.
I was wondering, as I wait for Verizon to release WinMo 6.5, what improvements might I anticipate with this new version? Will there be anything earth shattering or significant?
I just didn't want to be checking the boards everyday, waiting for something that really isn't worth drooling over!
Thanks for your thoughts!
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From my experience it benefit you by more eye candies and being exponentially slower. Ofcourse, it will use Sense 2.5 which has more graphic than 2.1. Such as the weather effect on over the entire Today screen.
The organization is strange, the icons are displayed in zigzag order which makes no sense and difficult to navigate. The one thing I like is in file explorer you can select multiple files at once. There are more specific things, but since it is slower and take up more space it is not more practical for me as I do not masturbate to my cellphone. Personally if I was to use 6.5, then I would get a custom rom that has 6.5.5, but with Sense 2.1, such as Calkulin's roms.
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False. Currently, only the HTC Leo (HD2) will officially run with Sense 2.5. The Rhodium will still (at least for now) officially have Sense 2.1. The current stock ROMs contains TouchFlo3D 2.0 (Manila 2.0; neither Manila 2.1 nor Manila 2.5).
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It's true it's simply eye candy, but it's also finger-friendliness. The "zigzag order" or "honeycomb" layout is initially confusing, but after running WM6.5 since September, I like it and it's definitely finger friendly. Nevertheless, there is a tweak to disable the honeycomb layout, and turns it into a vertical list layout.
Also, as you get deeper into WM6.5 (where there is no Manila integration), in menus such as Sounds & Notifications, there's definitely a more rounded (better looking) appearance to the whole interface. Moreover, you can swipe left and right to access the other "tabs" that you have in WM6.1.
However, I do agree that a custom ROM with WM6.5.x is definitely a worthy upgrade from WM6.1. It's much easier to navigate with the Start button and other navigation controls at the bottom of the screen.
I'm a big fan of the new lock screen since you can just slide to unlock rather than press two different screen areas. It also shows your calendar appointments which is pretty awesome.
I don't like how settings are organized since it can be a pita to find something specific and you have to go back/forth through the menus. And sms/mms can pretty much lock up my phone it's so slow, but really it was like that on 6.1 too so I dunno. Overall it's graphically much nicer, but slower so I kinda hate it.
ps I'm on the latest Mighty Rom w/o sense.
Finger friendlier menus and better arrangement. I use SPB Mobile Shell 3.5.3 and think Manila (Sense or whatever) is too painful to use. With this setup my Touch Pro 2 flies so don't believe that 6.5 is just slow......Its not.
Agree
More finger friendly, nicer UI!!
Don´t forget to vote for Rhodium!!
WEll
in 6.5 can you reorder your PROGRAMS screen? is there a way to do this in 6.1??? I have to remove icons and add them aagin in the proper space to organize them...
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in 6.5 can you reorder your PROGRAMS screen? is there a way to do this in 6.1??? I have to remove icons and add them aagin in the proper space to organize them...
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Depending on the ROM you get, you can press/hold on an icon, and drag to wherever you want. In other ROMs (probably like the stock ROM, not sure) you press/hold on an icon, and you can only let it go to the very top of the start menu.
WAR_GA said:
I am a very satisfied user of my Verizon TP2 (stock rom). It is by far the best phone I've owned.
I was wondering, as I wait for Verizon to release WinMo 6.5, what improvements might I anticipate with this new version? Will there be anything earth shattering or significant?
I just didn't want to be checking the boards everyday, waiting for something that really isn't worth drooling over!
Thanks for your thoughts!
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More eye candy, just this
I loved the eye candy -- but did not like how fast my battery drained and lockups that required me to hit the reset button because the phone would not "wake up" no matter what button I pushed. I'm back to 6.1 but carefully looking though the custom roms with 6.5 before deciding to jump in.
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I loved the eye candy -- but did not like how fast my battery drained and lockups that required me to hit the reset button because the phone would not "wake up" no matter what button I pushed. I'm back to 6.1 but carefully looking though the custom roms with 6.5 before deciding to jump in.
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Guessing you had the same problem I was having:
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Here's a video of my problem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4QfRyUuhkA
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I did a hard reset and haven't had it happen to me again.
Videos play smoother
Noticed two big things other than appearance... Bluetooth now hangs up correctly, and 2, videos play smoothly without having to disable bluetooth.
Two big improvement that now put 6.5 back in the same playing field as the TP I with 6.1...
-Sheldon
Manila, Manila 2.1, Manila 2.5, Sense.
Cool, Eye catchers, Smooth, etc. etc. etc.
These add-ons make the Topaz look and feel better. Just scroll left, scroll right, touch the thing and it rollz.
Is this really needed?
I don't think so. I have tried a lot of roms with these interfaces. Indeed the eyes are satisfied. But the performance is not.
I want when press the green send button the dialer to appear immediately, not after the phone first wake up. I want when executing something the thing to be run, rather than waiting sometimes ridiculous seconds until the appearance.
I was bored and bored with waiting. Really why something to be loaded into my system if that is not what works for me?? I work with dialer, contacts, calendar, run various applications. Why to waste system resources on interfaces???
My boredom lead to removing the sense through the today settings and
adding some today plugins, like launcher. And of course – topaz keyboard control for keys mapping.
The result is much much faster phone, which works for me, not for the interface.
Edit: WM 6.1. is fast, but a lot of features from 2009 are missing, that is why I prefer WM6.5.
if you want speed install wm 6.1 with no interface.
orlean, agree completely
orlean said:
Manila, Manila 2.1, Manila 2.5, Sense.
Cool, Eye catchers, Smooth, etc. etc. etc.
These add-ons make the Topaz look and feel better. Just scroll left, scroll right, touch the thing and it rollz.
Is this really needed?
I don't think so. I have tried a lot of roms with these interfaces. Indeed the eyes are satisfied. But the performance is not.
I want when press the green send button the dialer to appear immediately, not after the phone first wake up. I want when executing something the thing to be run, rather than waiting sometimes ridiculous seconds until the appearance.
I was bored and bored with waiting. Really why something to be loaded into my system if that is not what works for me?? I work with dialer, contacts, calendar, run various applications. Why to waste system resources on interfaces???
My boredom lead to removing the sense through the today settings and
adding some today plugins, like launcher. And of course – topaz keyboard control for keys mapping.
The result is much much faster phone, which works for me, not for the interface.
Edit: WM 6.1. is fast, but a lot of features from 2009 are missing, that is why I prefer WM6.5.
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which features do you mean??????
cyron_at
Basically I lack WIFI router integrated (I know I can install it separately);
And I had some bad expirence with some settings which I can not recall now.
But the number of question marks in your post made me look for another 6.1. realase. I am now downloading tess 6.1. from august.
What do you use?
use tess and you will be fine).
and if 6.1 is ugly to you try home ui or new infinity ui. they are speedy too.
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cyron_at
Basically I lack WIFI router integrated (I know I can install it separately);
And I had some bad expirence with some settings which I can not recall now.
But the number of question marks in your post made me look for another 6.1. realase. I am now downloading tess 6.1. from august.
What do you use?
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I am using duttys HG R6...very stable; but try them all and make your choice...
So this has anything to do with themes?
I didnt think so. Try posting in the right section, then maybe your phone will be speedier.
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So this has anything to do with themes?
I didnt think so. Try posting in the right section, then maybe your phone will be speedier.
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The forum is titled " Topaz Themes, Applications and Software"
Sense 2.1 & 2.5 fit 2 of these categories....
xboxhaxorz said:
So this has anything to do with themes?
I didnt think so. Try posting in the right section, then maybe your phone will be speedier.
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chill man he posted about the fact that mannila sucks and he coudnt be more correct.
I'm with you! Stopped using Manila a few days ago and my mobile experience has never been better. Using no today plug-ins now and my phone is faster, lighter and more stable than ever before. Memory usage is now 33% on a fresh boot and my home screen is uncluttered showing only my wallpaper, which looks great.
The most important thing for me was organising my start menu so that all my apps are readily accessable. That done, it's easy for me to access everything i need quickly, in fact faster than it was using Manila. I find Winmo 6.5 has everything i need with exception of a few things, and for those there are great free alternatives without having to resort to Manila bloat. For instance i use Nitrogen as a music player which is ten times better than Windows mobile media player OR Manila player.
Of course your mileage will vary but in my opinion the OP is right. Get yourself a good 6.5 ROM, install apps for the things you need/use a lot and use the start menu to access them.
Hi DirkGently1,
Hi guys;
I tried WM6.5. then reverted to 6.1.
I have running in the background: FingerKeyboard, AutoCallRecord, PlayPause, Topazkbgkontrol.
Memory after restart... 29%
I use Topaz Essential 6.1. v.2f
And the best part is that I don't want to flash new rom anymore :
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Hi DirkGently1,
Hi guys;
I tried WM6.5. then reverted to 6.1.
I have running in the background: FingerKeyboard, AutoCallRecord, PlayPause, Topazkbgkontrol.
Memory after restart... 29%
I use Topaz Essential 6.1. v.2f
And the best part is that I don't want to flash new rom anymore :
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So true. Once you find a good ROM there's no reason to change. Stability and speed are what makes a good user experience and Manila, or any other add-on UI, runs contrary to that by adding complexity, instability and bloat.
i hate to say this twice but realy , try infinity. runs realy great on topaz. it maybe not complete replacment yet but its usable
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i hate to say this twice but realy , try infinity. runs realy great on topaz. it maybe not complete replacment yet but its usable
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But what does it do that i can't do without it?
well. nothing realy. but its nice to have shortcuts the way you want them and see what time it is. and all that is pretty without slowdowns
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582081
Just a nod to the chef here for people who like a clean rom without any bloatware. Xara 6.5.x clean is working perfectly on my Topaz and i LOVE it!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582081
Just a nod to the chef here for people who like a clean rom without any bloatware. Xara 6.5.x clean is working perfectly on my Topaz and i LOVE it!
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Great! That is what I am always looking for! I dont understand how can I pass that. nah....
Thanks for the link dude
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Great! That is what I am always looking for! I dont understand how can I pass that. nah....
Thanks for the link dude
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My pleasure!
This is the 1st truly useable clean rom that has been released for the Topaz and it is really spot on. Even the default Windows Mobile keyboard is useable, in fact much improved from previous iterations.
Kudos to the chef.
Ï hate Manila and I hate 6.5 -and I'll probably also hate 7
At present I'm using trhe newest Energy ROM. Nice work.
I just wondered if there was any ROMs made for easy of visual use.
I'm a but long in the eye now and find using the phone sometimes a strain on my eyes. Age and all that
The Energy ROM is very good but I probably only use about 1/20th of the apps and stuff it loads. Some of the ones it installs I don't even know what they do
I would love to see a ROM made for vision clarity, bigger fonts and more simple but just as useful front screens.
Is there any of the cooks that can advise me on this ?
Thanks
maybe it's not a rom, but a software that you need, like point ui : http://www.wm6software.net/utilities/pointui_1_5.html
not the lame 2.0 which tries to do exactly the same as touchflo, spb etc, but the 1.5, which was very very eye and finger friendly, especially on small screens like the one on touchpro, with big icons, big texts, big lists etc..
so can I get a ROM with none of this HTC touch slide screen and Sense, maybe just a really basic front end.
well I've installed that app, started it and all I get is a blue blob start up screen than nothing happens.
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If you are looking for a simple rom with a good user interface I usually go back to the basic Euro Touch pro rom. I then add a few apps by cab that I need but I also add SPB Mobile shell to it. Retains all the hardware funtionality. I of course turn off TF3D.
SPB can replace your start menu and for bigger fonts go to start\settings\system\screen and enable cleartype and adjust your font size.
When I install this rom I usually install the following apps for basic and a little advanced user functionality:
SPB Mobile shell 3.5 (UI) -Worth the money-
Advanced config 3.3 (changing pagepools and storage locations)
Total Commander 2.5 (self-explanatory)
GPSTest 1.04 (for GPS locking)
SKtools (easy tweaking and cleaning-latest version-I bought it at pocketgear.com)
Bing (directions, searching, Navigating etc.)
Lumos (latest version for backlight control)
Touch Response (latest version-simulated haptive feedback)
Microsoft MyPhone (Secondary sync)
Of course it is all based on taste. Just thought I would stick that out there for ya.
Font size is at its largest, isn't enough
I have to say out of whats on the phone with this energy ROM i think I only use 3 things, and one is now missing in the new ROM.
Phone
Wi-Fi Router
Notes and Tasks.
Google Maps
Facebook
SMS
Freecell
Mostly hooked up to my PC with MyMobile so I can use my big screen. never browse now as the screen is to small.
Just looked at thr Captains basic ROM
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Font size is at its largest, isn't enough
I have to say out of whats on the phone with this energy ROM i think I only use 3 things, and one is now missing in the new ROM.
Phone
Wi-Fi Router
Notes and Tasks.
Google Maps
Facebook
SMS
Freecell
Mostly hooked up to my PC with MyMobile so I can use my big screen. never browse now as the screen is to small.
Just looked at thr Captains basic ROM
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Why don't you try my Titanium ROM then ? It's pretty basic, IMO
Trouble I have is reading through all the threads on a ROM, theres just to much old rubbish per thread. I can't filter out whos going on about which version and which ROM is which.
Pruning should be compulsory
They get all wrapped up in tech speak and CHt HTc DDL ROM RAM NND GGH OOH, which doesn't mean a thing to me, or probably a lot of people
Ill try yours out now
What else would I need. I want the Wi-Fi and a few tools but none of the
ArkSwitch ( no idea what it is)
Backup Fav ( never use Fav to start with)
CHT ( turned that off straight away)
Shake and whatever ( why)
World Card ( Useles)
XDA UC ( no idea)
BINg
well you get the picture
There was a good simple task manager in the last ROM but its missing now
And I liked the page with all short-cuts to you most used apps. It looked like the iPhone, very handy to use.
TAEL roms are pretty good
OK I'm lost wheres the Energy Titanium please
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TAEL roms are pretty good
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TAEL, is that a ROM type or the maker of the ROM ?
Thanks
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Yes TAEL is the chef of the rom.
I am currently using captains manilla 2.1 rom. Pretty basic uses the old TF3D type interface. but still has newer features. The only thing missing would be the facebook app. but that can be installed via cab. Seems to be simple enough yet has plenty of tools to get the job done. It has the simple HTC task manager as well.
Does Pointui.Home.1.5a.Wm5. work on it
Ahh I see it says WM5 I wonder if that why it doesn't work on mine.
Trying the Cpts one, systems font seems smaller and I can't seem to find any O2 UK set up cab anywhere
Font size???
It does enlarge through screen settings but I can try and find a magnifier that could swipe across the screen. Of course most of the chefs have knowledge enough to make a "handicapped" rom as microsoft sells it in windows. (Magnifier , speech etc.)
What would be good is an App like the iPhone one that turns the phone into a magnifier. I could deff use that when I was out to read labels and small stuff.
Using
TAELROM_v4.23569_STANDARD_21MAY10
Cpts one I couldn't get the O2 settings for.
i have found something that might help you http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/System-Utilities/Enhancements/WinMobile-Magnifier-27412.shtml
Well I gone and brought an iPhone, please don't shout , Only way I can see if it is suitable for me is hands on.
Probably wrong place to ask but anyone recommend a decent iPhone forum ?
Thanks
Still got the HTC so all is not lost
Hi everibody, so sorry to post a question where it's not allowed but the Q&A section for windows mobile doesn't exist anymore, so I didn't know where to post it.
I am an HD2 owner and for me it's simply perfect with windows mobile, the only thing is that in WM 6.5 and in sense 2.5 there are no smooth and fluid transitions. Don't know if I explained well what I mean. For example in Iphone, android or in any other new OS when I swipe left or right on the screen, the elements move gradually out of the screen and the new one enter gently. In Manila 2.5 no, there is a gap unless you use the manila . Is there a way to make this happen? The same thing when I press the start menu or when I turn the phone in landscape mode, or when I unlock it. I think that the lack of animated transitions make the OS look much older than it is.
Please, I'm asking a last effort to make this system awersome...
as you are using manila 2.5 the nearest to your request is Co0kie Home Tab 2.0. Then you can get in your home tab 7 screens to slide left & right, and 4 levels to slide up & down, and even put some widgets on it.
Other option is MaxSense, but never tried myself. I think you would need to flash a rom with Maxsense as is not provided as .cab
If you wish to try Co0kie 2.0 and need further help post question in the CHT thread.
Thank you for the reply =)
yeah, I'm actually using the HD2O rom with CHT and I noticed that there is the possibility to use widget in the home screen, but I was thinking of something more integrated in the system...for example I found WinStart (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=935808): this is an app that replaces start menu and adds the kind of animations for windows I was looking for. Unfortunately I found this program a little too buggy (some icons disappear and many icon names are changed) and very slow I hope it could be possible to continue in this direction, because I think that the idea is good, but in my opinion it isn't developed properly (those animations could be integrated in a cooked rom probably) and have a similar program for Manila too. It would be simply wonderful.
Of course those are only my suggestions, but I know that nobody would develop any further for windows mobile something like this because this OS is considered dead, but I still love it more than any newer one.
I'm using an energy ROM with CHT & find it very fluid for all functions really & far more flexible than iphone & a lot better looking than Android & many functions less clicks to access.
For the hardware spec of the phone & slow official development WM was & actually still is very very good, if you look at layout of Android & compare it to WM6.5.3 you will see a lot of copying by cheeky Google ...
I need viber software for hd2 plz help me
I need viber software for hd2 plz
Windows Mobile does have animated transitions, but they're generally disabled, as they're slow and ugly.
You can still get them back using the registry (I can find that for you), but you'll probably regret it.
BTW, as my much esteemed colleagues said already, HTC Sense and Co0kie's Home tabs extension prvide pretty nice animations and sliding screens already.
sd144 said:
I need viber software for hd2 plz
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You need what ?
Could you be more precise and explicit, please ?