Hi!
Since I held the Desire in my hands some days ago, I am concerned that in a years future it might suffer the same problem that I had with my old TyTN II: In the (TyTN's mini- as well as in the) micro-USB slot there is a piece of plastic that holds the copper pins. And that piece had gone off.
Only since I have my Desire, I think that one of the best things of the N1 is the additional contacts on the bottom which are uses for the docking station.
Has anybody heard, read or whatever of an adaptor for the N1 docking station for the Desire?
I'm interested in this also. I am still reading all the related threads here so i am sure I will eventually see this simple answer, but for now:
Does the Nexus One also use microUSB --- same as the Desire? Or does the Nexus One use miniUSB ?
This review of the Nexus One dock says it's miniUSB.
damn.
quicksite said:
I'm interested in this also. I am still reading all the related threads here so i am sure I will eventually see this simple answer, but for now:
Does the Nexus One also use microUSB --- same as the Desire? Or does the Nexus One use miniUSB ?
This review of the Nexus One dock says it's miniUSB.
damn.
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well yes i agree with you if you mean that the dock's output to the wall charger(which is located behind the dock, not the one used to connect the phone with the dock, it is the one to connect the dock to the wall charger) is using miniUSB port....for the dock from the link you've posted...
but for the Nexus One Phone's charging port, it's microUSB...
just to clarify some things as not to confuse others...
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but for the Nexus One Phone's charging port, it's microUSB...
just to clarify some things as not to confuse others...
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But if that's the case, then why can't we use the Nexus One dock with our Desires ?? So you have confused me!
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But if that's the case, then why can't we use the Nexus One dock with our Desires ?? So you have confused me!
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oh sorry, i reread the link you posted and i realised that they are mistaken, it is not miniUSB for the output but indeed uses microUSB output(after i look carefully at the pictures on that website)
and why can't we use the nexus one dock??
just go to youtube.com and search for nexus one dock, the videos will show that inside the dock(the place where you place your phone in), DO NOT have a microUSB plug to connect the desire!!!
the only thing inside the dock is the 3 PINS which will only work for the nexus one because the nexus have the 3 HOLES for the pins!!
So without a microUSB plug inside the dock, the htc desire can't utilise the dock because htc desire doesn't have the 3 sexy HOLES
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because htc desire doesn't have the 3 sexy *HOLES*
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Three Sexy Holes -- sounds like a new screenplay for Lady Gaga but I wouldn't speculate.
Yes, I understand now, thank you for clarifying your clarification.
no problem.....
the 3 gorgeous holes were there on the htc desire prototype, but was excluded on the retail version....
3 holes that didnt make the cut.....
Okay, so I have given up hope that HTC will be making the desktop dock that uses the pogo pins for our model anytime soon. I feel that the customs lockdown by Apple has really stunted the production of accessories for our phones since not many people have them yet.
So basically, I am wondering about the viability of modifying the HTC One X Desktop Dock to work with our phones (specifically this one here):
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I would think that one could dremel spots that are larger, and align the pins with our device. Does anyone who is handy with this kind of thing know if it would be possible?
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Okay, so I have given up hope that HTC will be making the desktop dock that uses the pogo pins for our model anytime soon. I feel that the customs lockdown by Apple has really stunted the production of accessories for our phones since not many people have them yet.
So basically, I am wondering about the viability of modifying the HTC One X Desktop Dock to work with our phones (specifically this one here):
I would think that one could dremel spots that are larger, and align the pins with our device. Does anyone who is handy with this kind of thing know if it would be possible?
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Bumping because I honestly didn't know what those 5 connections were for. And that'd be cool.
Customs lockdown,
A) I thought Americans can buy the HTC One X now.
B) There are more markets than the US.
I think the problem is the Galaxy SIII is the device "got to have it now Android fanboys" are looking for and the sales of the HTC One X was really not that great.
Small market = low sales of Accessories
Yeah I was curious about this too. Not that I'd really want to attempt it, but I am getting tired of the lack of AT&T (ONE XL) accessories and I really want this dock as well. I'd really hate to rough it up since it looks sleek in it's natural form. You could always shave down the bottom/corners to get the plugs to line up but I think the indent for the camera might still give you a slight issue and it wouldn't set right as a result.
I seriously hope they plan to release this for the AT&T version eventually.
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I would think that one could dremel spots that are larger, and align the pins with our device. Does anyone who is handy with this kind of thing know if it would be possible?
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Without seeing the internals, it's impossible to know. Those pins are the charge/sync connection--note that there is no microUSB connection.
It's possible the assembly holding the pins is separate and moveable; its also possible that it's part of the main circuit board, in which case modding would be next to impossible for average DIY folks.
Even if the pins can be moved, the connections to the main board in things like this are often hair-thin wires that are very easy to break and next to impossible to solder back together.
I've tried mods/repairs like this in the past, and failed more often than I got it to work.
AstroDigital said:
Customs lockdown,
A) I thought Americans can buy the HTC One X now.
B) There are more markets than the US.
I think the problem is the Galaxy SIII is the device "got to have it now Android fanboys" are looking for and the sales of the HTC One X was really not that great.
Small market = low sales of Accessories
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US can buy One X now. The point is, it probably would have taken 2 months for there to have been an OEM One XL desktop dock under normal circumstances. But, since one of the biggest markets for the One XL didn't sell hardly any devices, it unquestionably set the sales way back. Then to make matters worse, when they finally did get going the GS3 was almost out so that hurt things even more.
So yeah, obviously GS3 will have hurt things, but don't think that the One X would not have done much better without Apple's meddling.
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Without seeing the internals, it's impossible to know. Those pins are the charge/sync connection--note that there is no microUSB connection.
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Right, that's why I want this in the first place.
It's possible the assembly holding the pins is separate and moveable; its also possible that it's part of the main circuit board, in which case modding would be next to impossible for average DIY folks.
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Good call -- I hadn't even considered that it would be directly on the circuit board. I still would expect it is not, but there is still a decent chance.
Even if the pins can be moved, the connections to the main board in things like this are often hair-thin wires that are very easy to break and next to impossible to solder back together.
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True enough.
After all the effort you will put into modding it, and not even knowing if the mod will work. You're better off just waiting a few weeks until they release a HOXL version..
Just my opinion.
I'm pretty sure the layout of the pins is the same.
Its just moved a little but upwards compared to our version.
The pins should be in the same spot, does anyone have this dock and can confirm or deny it?
What brand is this dock anyways? May be beneficial to email the manufacturer and see if they can give you any information on this unit, or if they will be releasing an ATT version anytime soon.
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What brand is this dock anyways? May be beneficial to email the manufacturer and see if they can give you any information on this unit, or if they will be releasing an ATT version anytime soon.
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danny39 said:
The pins should be in the same spot, does anyone have this dock and can confirm or deny it?
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Confirmed back in May that they're not in same spot.
It's on the AT&T store, but apparently it hasn't shipped out to anyone yet. Also they won't apply my discount to it either. Very weird.
this does exist.. i have seen and used one.... it ONLY works on the one X and not the XL. (the xl is the LTE / atnt version)... The pins on the ONE XL and differently located as everyone says and i can confirm.. i have not seen a dock like this for the XL yet... if any one has please reply.. with the model number..
the one is the thread is the S650..
Thanks
I gave up on this and just grabbed a dock off of eBay. They sell for 10 bucks a pop and they use the usb port. Certainly not as nice as the pogo pins would have been, but it works.
Pictures of the electronics
Hi Folks,
I got me a One X cradle today, works pretty awesome.
Just drop the phone on it and it starts charging and playing music instantly (if music was already on.)
The sound is pretty good, just got no bass, but can't expect that of a dock with no woofer.
That's why I want to try and mod in a Jack plug in the circuit, so I can hook it up to my stereo really easy.
For that I was opening the dock and remembered this thread, may as well make some pictures and share.
In return, can anyone give me some advice on how to place the jack plug?
I was thinking of cutting the wires that go from the main PCB to the speakers and place a jack and a switch between.
So I can switch between jack and speakers with the switch.
But I'm not 100% sure this will work, any advice before I ruin my dock at the first day?
If I use this method, do I use two read wires and one black, or the other way around?
Would like to have a stereo output of cores.
Would it be better to hook it up before the main PCB (before the signal is amplified)?
I can't really figure out what wire is what, except for the wires that go to the speakers.
here's the album: http://imageshack.us/g/339/imag0092ms.jpg/
About the the small PCB with the 5 pogo pins.
If the spacing between the pins is the same on XL as on X, you could move this PCB and maybe make things fit for the XL. But doesn't seam easy. If the spacing is different, than it would be very very hard. The pins a re pressed through a small metal beam and than soldered individually.
Marskramer14 said:
Hi Folks,
In return, can anyone give me some advice on how to place the jack plug?
I was thinking of cutting the wires that go from the main PCB to the speakers and place a jack and a switch between.
So I can switch between jack and speakers with the switch.
But I'm not 100% sure this will work, any advice before I ruin my dock at the first day?
If I use this method, do I use two read wires and one black, or the other way around?
Would like to have a stereo output of cores.
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I /believe/ than your idea of putting a switch before the speakers would be fine (having the signal amplified before your plug to your own jack) But getting the signal before would be better...
There's a good chance that the pins are digital and you won't be able to get audio before the board.. You could have your phone in the dock.. with the dock opened up. Then take some old headphones and cut the jack off, take the wires from one earpiece and try the pins one by one (without undocking your phone) You definitely won't be able to hurt your phone by moving them around (I just wouldn't hold them down a long time if you're on ground and vcc) but for a moment should be fine
so I would try moving the earpiece wires onto the different pins (you really probably have to have it in the dock, I doubt that audio signal goes out unless the phone thinks it's in a dock..
But seriously I'm pretty confident that getting the signal just before the speakers would be fine
I have ordered a UK One X dock, and modded it to fit the US ATT phone, as suggested in this thread. I cut out a small rectangle where the pins are, and moved it over, and glued it into place with some loctite epoxy. It was extremely difficult to get the pins to be in just the right spot, and I didn't get them quite perfect (but really close), so it wouldn't work with the little tray part that goes between the phone and the dock (I guess it's an adapter to fit a bigger and smaller version of the phone or something??). But I was able to put some little foam spacers in between the phone and the dock to get it to line up just right. Not as pretty as the dock started, but it works great, so I am very happy with it.
Also, because it's the UK version, the wall plug is the UK type of plug with the 3 big prongs, so you will need an adapter to plug it into a US socket. Also, the end that plugs into the dock is kind of different from a regular micro usb plug. A regular micro usb plug will fit, though, so I tried one, with the charger that came with the phone, and it didn't work/charge. Dunno why.
The dock does block the headphone plug, and I also found that it makes the lock button difficult to press, but that might be because I couldn't fit the spacer tray thingy. The dock speaker does work, and is pretty loud. Not sure if I'd trust it for an alarm clock though.
I wouldn't really recommend attempting it unless you really want to have a dock. This is the first phone I've gotten that has pogo pads, and I really wanted a dock that would use them, and I've done enough mods like this that I know I'll be able to at least have a working dock at the end, even if it's really ugly. Even then, it took a lot longer than I was expecting.
I'm at work, but I'll take/post some pics when I get back home, sorry, but I forgot to this morning.
Also, thank you Marskramer14, I wouldn't have attempted this if you hadn't posted the pics of what it looks like inside.
icingdeath88 said:
I have ordered a UK One X dock, and modded it to fit the US ATT phone, as suggested in this thread. I cut out a small rectangle where the pins are, and moved it over, and glued it into place with some loctite epoxy. It was extremely difficult to get the pins to be in just the right spot, and I didn't get them quite perfect (but really close), so it wouldn't work with the little tray part that goes between the phone and the dock (I guess it's an adapter to fit a bigger and smaller version of the phone or something??). But I was able to put some little foam spacers in between the phone and the dock to get it to line up just right. Not as pretty as the dock started, but it works great, so I am very happy with it.
Also, because it's the UK version, the wall plug is the UK type of plug with the 3 big prongs, so you will need an adapter to plug it into a US socket. Also, the end that plugs into the dock is kind of different from a regular micro usb plug. A regular micro usb plug will fit, though, so I tried one, with the charger that came with the phone, and it didn't work/charge. Dunno why.
The dock does block the headphone plug, and I also found that it makes the lock button difficult to press, but that might be becausei I couldn't fit the spacer tray thingy. The dock speaker does work, and is pretty loud. Not sure if I'd trust it for an alarm clock though.
I wouldn't really recommend attempting it unless you really want to have a dock. This is the first phone I've gotten that has pogo pads, and I really wanted a dock that would use them, and I've done enough mods like this that I know I'll be able to at least have a working dock at the end, even if it's really ugly. Even then, it took a lot longer than I was expecting.
I'm at work, but I'll take/post some pics when I get back home, sorry, but I forgot to this morning.
Also, thank you Marskramer14, I wouldn't have attempted this if you hadn't posted the pics of what it looks like inside.
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tekkneke said:
Okay, so I have given up hope that HTC will be making the desktop dock that uses the pogo pins for our model anytime soon. I feel that the customs lockdown by Apple has really stunted the production of accessories for our phones since not many people have them yet.
So basically, I am wondering about the viability of modifying the HTC One X Desktop Dock to work with our phones (specifically this one here):
I would think that one could dremel spots that are larger, and align the pins with our device. Does anyone who is handy with this kind of thing know if it would be possible?
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Wait...so the ATT version of the HTC One X is called the One XL? I guess I'm farrrrr behind on my model number knowledge, because I thought the Telstra/another Canadian carrier version was the XL.
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icingdeath88 said:
I have ordered a UK One X dock, and modded it to fit the US ATT phone, as suggested in this thread. I cut out a small rectangle where the pins are, and moved it over, and glued it into place with some loctite epoxy. It was extremely difficult to get the pins to be in just the right spot, and I didn't get them quite perfect (but really close), so it wouldn't work with the little tray part that goes between the phone and the dock (I guess it's an adapter to fit a bigger and smaller version of the phone or something??). But I was able to put some little foam spacers in between the phone and the dock to get it to line up just right. Not as pretty as the dock started, but it works great, so I am very happy with it.
Also, because it's the UK version, the wall plug is the UK type of plug with the 3 big prongs, so you will need an adapter to plug it into a US socket. Also, the end that plugs into the dock is kind of different from a regular micro usb plug. A regular micro usb plug will fit, though, so I tried one, with the charger that came with the phone, and it didn't work/charge. Dunno why.
The dock does block the headphone plug, and I also found that it makes the lock button difficult to press, but that might be because I couldn't fit the spacer tray thingy. The dock speaker does work, and is pretty loud. Not sure if I'd trust it for an alarm clock though.
I wouldn't really recommend attempting it unless you really want to have a dock. This is the first phone I've gotten that has pogo pads, and I really wanted a dock that would use them, and I've done enough mods like this that I know I'll be able to at least have a working dock at the end, even if it's really ugly. Even then, it took a lot longer than I was expecting.
I'm at work, but I'll take/post some pics when I get back home, sorry, but I forgot to this morning.
Also, thank you Marskramer14, I wouldn't have attempted this if you hadn't posted the pics of what it looks like inside.
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I know this thread is really old....but this whole mod was just for the pogo pins? For devices that don't rely on them, the international One X and the ATT version will be cross-compatible, right? At least as far as accessories go, the only different is the pogo pin placement? So cases, and devices that use the Microusb port, or other dimensions should be exactly the same, right? I had a ATT HOX, but I ended up tossing it for the Note. It was always known to me, and spoken about in discussions as the "ATT HTC One X" or ATT HOX.
I wound up buying one again at a later date for my sister....and now I'm looking to get her a dock so she'll be able to use it on a nightstand/end table as a sort of digital clock/ alarm clock, after I install some fancy app.
What do I need to buy? And I need to get one specifically for the ATT HTC One X? And it's called the One XL? Sorry....I had mine the first week it came out....quite a while ago. The customs issues are ironed out now, but the HTC website, when clicking accessories on the device page shows 0 accessories....ridiculous.
Any recommendations for a affordable dock? Any other killer accessories I might consider for her? Christmas is nipping me in the butt here, and I'm hurting for time. Suggestions would be appreciated.
icingdeath88 said:
I have ordered a UK One X dock, and modded it to fit the US ATT phone, as suggested in this thread. I cut out a small rectangle where the pins are, and moved it over, and glued it into place with some loctite epoxy. It was extremely difficult to get the pins to be in just the right spot, and I didn't get them quite perfect (but really close), so it wouldn't work with the little tray part that goes between the phone and the dock (I guess it's an adapter to fit a bigger and smaller version of the phone or something??). But I was able to put some little foam spacers in between the phone and the dock to get it to line up just right. Not as pretty as the dock started, but it works great, so I am very happy with it.
Also, because it's the UK version, the wall plug is the UK type of plug with the 3 big prongs, so you will need an adapter to plug it into a US socket. Also, the end that plugs into the dock is kind of different from a regular micro usb plug. A regular micro usb plug will fit, though, so I tried one, with the charger that came with the phone, and it didn't work/charge. Dunno why.
The dock does block the headphone plug, and I also found that it makes the lock button difficult to press, but that might be because I couldn't fit the spacer tray thingy. The dock speaker does work, and is pretty loud. Not sure if I'd trust it for an alarm clock though.
I wouldn't really recommend attempting it unless you really want to have a dock. This is the first phone I've gotten that has pogo pads, and I really wanted a dock that would use them, and I've done enough mods like this that I know I'll be able to at least have a working dock at the end, even if it's really ugly. Even then, it took a lot longer than I was expecting.
I'm at work, but I'll take/post some pics when I get back home, sorry, but I forgot to this morning.
Also, thank you Marskramer14, I wouldn't have attempted this if you hadn't posted the pics of what it looks like inside.
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Hi. I just ran into this old thread. I just got my att htc one x plus and i really want to make this dock work for it. This morning i received the uk dock so im ready for some modding. Do you still have it? do you have any pics of your result? thank you and much appreciated.
Alright. Apparently this specific phone has weird or messed up POGO pins. And I really need some help.
I've searched but can't find anyone with this issue.
There are supposed to be 5 pins total (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1611116). On my phone, there are 5 positions, but the first (GND) is blocked off by the outer plastic of the case. I picked away the plastic to find no pin present, just a plastic stub from within the phone. And while I will (next week) be taking the phone apart to do multiple things (replace broken digitizer, & upgrade battery, replace back-door), surely someone knows something about this?
I ordered a Seidio Innocell case to further enhance my battery life. It is the version marked to support the AT&T variant. However it does not work. I would think that the GND connection is unnecessary to charge the battery (unsafely), so I can only assume that the 4 pins available are not as identified with other variants. Perhaps the 1st pin is dislodged by some means, though that does not explain the plastic covering it... Other than perhaps a manufacturer defect that I never noticed?
Can anyone assist?
Like I said I'll be opening it up soon, so I'll probably modify the back door to support this Innocell casing anyway. So any information would be useful as to what might be going wrong here.
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I can confirm after picking away more plastic, that there IS indeed the 1st pin (you can see it in attached image if you look closely), and that my phone was poorly manufactured. The pin is shoved beneath the casing due to lack of clearance when it was assembled. No wonder. Charging still does not work, so I'm wondering if there is a way I can manually test these two pins (#1 & #5) for charging capabilities? 5v battery and two wires perhaps?
This belongs in the q&a section, not sure why you've posted it here?
Where did you buy the phone?
Sent from my Evita.
timmaaa said:
This belongs in the q&a section, not sure why you've posted it here?
Where did you buy the phone?
Sent from my Evita.
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My apologies, first time posting. I read the posting stickies, and did not think to post it in the appropriate location.
This phone was purchased from Walmart, with the related AT&T contract. One month before they released the OneX+, what luck.
My battery is at post office now, should arrive later today. I'll install and update my post, though I believe I'll be solving my own problem & answering my own question soon enough. Completion sake, anyways. The pins do work, i sent voltage through it using a multimeter, and android notified me I was using an invalid charging apparatus (incorrect mwa i guess? was @1.5v). SO that's good news I suppose.
Wow, I've never seen a new Evita with such a serious manufacturing defect like that. You should swap it out under warranty.
Sent from my Evita.
timmaaa said:
Wow, I've never seen a new Evita with such a serious manufacturing defect like that. You should swap it out under warranty.
Sent from my Evita.
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Haha i know right. I just opened it up, all 5 pins are available on the motherboard's bottom connector(radio/pogo/buttonLEDs). But indeed, they did not properly cut the 1st pin's plastic. Nor did they insert the actual pogo pin on it, which are both back-door flaws. Back-door assembly line failure - lol Sounds dirty.
Well all is well now. I used a HOX+ back-door instead, cause the red on black looks nice. SO I didn't have to rig my own graphite onto the plastic. All 5 pins working perfectly. Attached some photos so you guys can see what I mean. Take care all, this issue is now resolved