Will it be possible to use the hotspot feature without paying the so called 29.99 fee?
PDAnet will allow you to tether, however it is for one computer only and involves some hokey DUN profiles if I read correctly.
Once Froyo arrives there is hope that Sprint will not disable the in-built WiFi capabilities.
Outside of that slim chance once root access is obtained there will of course be wifi.
sprint will disable wifi tether for froyo, 100% guarantee. wait for root.
Once the Evo is rooted you can just run WiFi Tether for Root Users. This works perfectly on the Sprint Hero.
Thanks... I will wait it out. I am sure it'll be done rather soon after release, shoot there is already a possible root already.
I wouldn't worry about it. I'm probably the cheapest man alive with cell phone bills (I have ATT with unlimited data for 56 <_< apparently I use way over any kind of limit and I was grandfathered in with unlimited) I don't plan on using the30 dollar add on BUT I do plan to use tethering and since the Evo is already rooted and will probably have an easy method of rooting by the time the phone is released I plan on doing that then just updating to froyo when it is released (there are a couple tethering programs out there for rooted phones.)
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Once the Evo is rooted you can just run WiFi Tether for Root Users. This works perfectly on the Sprint Hero.
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This is the important question though...
Will Wireless Tether for Root Users funnel just the 3g connection, or will it also use the 4g radio connection? I'd hope the latter, but am skeptical. From an OS standpoint though, I'd think it just sees 4g as another radio connection, so I'm hoping there's some grain of chance that it will work.
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This is the important question though...
Will Wireless Tether for Root Users funnel just the 3g connection, or will it also use the 4g radio connection? I'd hope the latter, but am skeptical. From an OS standpoint though, I'd think it just sees 4g as another radio connection, so I'm hoping there's some grain of chance that it will work.
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I hope so too
kmartburrito said:
This is the important question though...
Will Wireless Tether for Root Users funnel just the 3g connection, or will it also use the 4g radio connection? I'd hope the latter, but am skeptical. From an OS standpoint though, I'd think it just sees 4g as another radio connection, so I'm hoping there's some grain of chance that it will work.
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I'm sure they will include 4G support, but it might not be until a CDMA specific Froyo build that has WiMax support built in. Right now the EVO's ROM has 4G coded into it, it's not really integrated into the OS.
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Heres what I understand:
$30 Unlimited Data plan to the phone (as usual)
Optional $20 Wifi Tethering with 2GB cap (through Verizon App?)
When 2.2 comes out, will the built in Android Wifi hotspot be removed? Or will it work without the $20 wifi plan?
They have to disable it. Otherwise, who in their right mind is going to pay for something when there's software already on the phone that allows you to do it?
I guess I'll just be sticking to PdaNet. Nice try though, VZW.
Yeah, darn. Hopefully the geniuses here can find some way to reenable built in wifi tethering so that vzw cant tell that its being tethered. I want wifi on my ipad
does this mean there is a high chance this phone will be un-rootable? because of http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
2.2 source code may be released to the carriers but they can change it however they want to fit thier hardware and needs.
So if they want to take out the free wifi hotspot capabilities in 2.2 for the X or other devices and still charge for wifi hotspot capabilities with 2gb caps for 20 bux then guess what, they can.
PDAbnet may do wifi tethering but that is different from wifi hotspotting to multiple devices
remember that once rooted you can flash different roms and install any apps to your hearts content
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does this mean there is a high chance this phone will be un-rootable? because of http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
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This doesn't really have any bearing on whether the phone will be unrootable - IMO every phone is rootable, it is just a matter of finding an exploit... Hopefully this phone will be easier than the last one I had (Droid ERIS :-/)
This is not correct. The Milestone has been rooted but no access to the bootloader has been had meaning no custom Tom's.
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Here is a few things to keep in mind..
The Verizon 3G app is infrastructure, thus it works with things like PSP and Nintendo DS, which is why i keep it. The Wireless tether apps are only ad-hoc for now.
From what ive been told, the verizon app loads a different firmware before running.
Now, what verizon can do and has done in the past, especially on windows mobile phones, is take out a feature like wifi hotspot in an OS, and put their own in its place.
do NOT be surprised if VZW does the same thing with 2.2 and yes, it is 20 a month for a measly 2gb on the hot spot app, but wireless tether is unlimited for 30
this is why i ONLY use the hot app for PSP and DS and the rest wi-t for root
not to mention, i am not even sure if the 2.2 is ad-hoc or infrastructure.. anyone know?
This is how the USB Tethering works for Verizon's 2.2 FroYo build, and I'll safely assume that it'll be the same for WiFi:
When you connect via USB Tethering, the phone directs you to a Verizon webpage (https://dunsp.vzw.com/selfProvisioning/SelfProvisioningServlet) which informs you of the package costs, and gives the phone number to add the package.
Interestingly enough, this only occurs if you tether it's 3G connection and not it's WiFi connection.
You may wonder why you'd want to tether a phone's WiFi connection via USB.. well.. personally I just pay for the Boingo mobile hotspot ($7.99/mo), which will work on my iPad or Droid, and if I need to use my PC, I tether my Droid's WiFi to my laptop. Saves $9.99/mo.
can a 3g modual be used on the g tab. if so which ones work thanks all for help
How about...?
Hopefully this isn't too off-topic but why don't you just use the 3G connection from your phone (I assume you have an android phone)? That is what a lot of folks with the gTab do now.
I have a rooted Droid X phone that I've installed Wireless Tether on and since I have an unlimited data account with Verizon I turn my phone into a 3G hotspot and connect my gTab to it to surf when I'm out and about. This works great for me since I always have my phone with me.
Anyway, hopefully this info helps as I do not know of a way to add a 3G module to the gTab. Some folks have been discussing using a 3G or 4G usb dongle modem but I don't think they've been able to get that to work yet.
Good luck,
Steve
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Hopefully this isn't too off-topic but why don't you just use the 3G connection from your phone (I assume you have an android phone)? That is what a lot of folks with the gTab do now.
I have a rooted Droid X phone that I've installed Wireless Tether on and since I have an unlimited data account with Verizon I turn my phone into a 3G hotspot and connect my gTab to it to surf when I'm out and about. This works great for me since I always have my phone with me.
Anyway, hopefully this info helps as I do not know of a way to add a 3G module to the gTab. Some folks have been discussing using a 3G or 4G usb dongle modem but I don't think they've been able to get that to work yet.
Good luck,
Steve
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Absolutely agree!
I was in the quest of finding 3G module for my tab, preferably GSM, not CDMA (Werizon).
Later on I started counting and something dawned on me....LOL
If I install that module on G-Tab.... I have to pay for the access...
Since I already paying for my phone data plan, it would be a double whammy..
I have HD2 running WinMo 6.5 and WMWiFiRouter, which is the great program to tether to G-Tab.
Hope it helps.
Hey guys,
I am from the Captivate forums and I was wondering if the roms for the droid charge have usb tethering and mobile hotpsot enabled out of the box with the current custom roms. I know Verizon is providing their mobile hotspot capabilities for a short term but I would really like to get some tethered 4G speeds without having to pay for separate hotspot capabilities.
I'm running GummyCharged 1.8.1 with the pbj lagfix kernel, and while there is not exactly a built in tethering app I was able to easily install PdaNet for usb tethering. I also downloaded Open Garden WiFi for my mobile hotspot alternative app which seems to work well. Verizon's built in tethering garbage is just plain ridiculously overpriced.
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Hey guys,
I am from the Captivate forums and I was wondering if the roms for the droid charge have usb tethering and mobile hotpsot enabled out of the box with the current custom roms. I know Verizon is providing their mobile hotspot capabilities for a short term but I would really like to get some tethered 4G speeds without having to pay for separate hotspot capabilities.
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You thinking about jumping from att to verizon for the LTE lock in? That's exactly what I'm planning on doing either today or tomorrow. Don't you just love how easy it is to usb or wireless tether with our Captivates and custom roms?!
To USB tether, you can purchase EZ Tether (~ $10USD), or you can root and run this free app: Google Code Wired Tether
For Wireless Tethering, it's a little trickier - mostly because of the Wifi Access Point / Ad Hoc connection issue. I have heard that if you download this free app: Google Code Wifi Tether, and configure for the Samsung Fascinate, it will work fine. Haven't tested it yet, though.
Cheers,
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You thinking about jumping from att to verizon for the LTE lock in? That's exactly what I'm planning on doing either today or tomorrow. Don't you just love how easy it is to usb or wireless tether with our Captivates and custom roms?!
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Yeah that is exactly what I feel like doing, but I will probably keep my Captivate activated just in case because I still have AT&ts unlimited data plan. Yeah that is the reason I was asking becasue everything is baked into our custom roms and they inlcude all of the mods anyone could ever ask for.
I would never pay a seperate fee for wireless tethering to any wireless carrier especially if I already am paying for the data plan. Wireless providers are just too greedy at times *cough*tiered data plans*cough*
Thanks for the responses guys. I hope the custom roms on this phone one day are up to par with what I have come to expect from the Captivate forums.
Also I read that Verizon has been cracking down on wireless accounts that use third party tethering apps. Can anyone confirm this or point me to a reliable source?
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Yeah that is exactly what I feel like doing, but I will probably keep my Captivate activated just in case because I still have AT&ts unlimited data plan. Yeah that is the reason I was asking becasue everything is baked into our custom roms and they inlcude all of the mods anyone could ever ask for.
I would never pay a seperate fee for wireless tethering to any wireless carrier especially if I already am paying for the data plan. Wireless providers are just too greedy at times *cough*tiered data plans*cough*
Thanks for the responses guys. I hope the custom roms on this phone one day are up to par with what I have come to expect from the Captivate forums.
Also I read that Verizon has been cracking down on wireless accounts that use third party tethering apps. Can anyone confirm this or point me to a reliable source?
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Hey, if you get a chance, can you shoot me a PM. I got a couple questions for you and I think I can't send PMs or something.
everything is about to change. On July 7th est, there is be tiered data plans for verizon. 2gb for 29.99, 5 gb for 50 and 10 gb 80. So if your not already on the unlimited than you will not have unlimited more. sucky
Is there a fix to get android-wired-tether working on the charge?
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To USB tether, you can purchase EZ Tether (~ $10USD), or you can root and run this free app: Google Code Wired Tether
For Wireless Tethering, it's a little trickier - mostly because of the Wifi Access Point / Ad Hoc connection issue. I have heard that if you download this free app: Google Code Wifi Tether, and configure for the Samsung Fascinate, it will work fine. Haven't tested it yet, though.
Cheers,
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I am running GummyCharged 1.8.1. I installed the wired_tether_1_4.apk, ran it, accepted root permission, but got the "Unsupported Kernel" popup. The adp-1_6-kernel-update_usbtether_r3.zip will not install as clockwork states it is outdated.
Is there a fix to get android-wired-tether working on the charge? I know pdanet/easytether/klink work, but are paid apps.
Thanks
@mrxhack - You are correct. I forgot that the SamChg won't run on the Google Code Wired Tether app. I like EasyTether, though - It works great, and doesn't cost too much. Try the free version first, to see if it works well with GC.
Tried to ask this in the general forums and didn't get an answer, wondering f you guys could help. Got an s3 to keep my unlimited data. Reading it says that Verizon can tell if you tethering to a computer due to TTL packets. I don't know much about networking but reading it says that windows computers while tethering push a value of 124 or 128 packets unless configured while android devices have a value of 64. The thing is I never tether to my computer only my tablet. So can I safely go nuts tethering to my tablet as if it was my phone due to it looking like I'm using my phone or am I way off and can Verizon tell I'm tethering and using my tablet. I really just want tot tether the hell out f my tablet when I need it. Anyways as this is XDA can I hide it safely? I have an unlimited data plan so the whole OK to tether thing since that lawsuit doesn't apply to me with this.
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Tried to ask this in the general forums and didn't get an answer, wondering f you guys could help. Got an s3 to keep my unlimited data. Reading it says that Verizon can tell if you tethering to a computer due to TTL packets. I don't know much about networking but reading it says that windows computers while tethering push a value of 124 or 128 packets unless configured while android devices have a value of 64. The thing is I never tether to my computer only my tablet.
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I don't know about the packet size issue you mentioned.
Otherwise, I have read that if*your Verizon tethering indicator turns on or your usage suddenly goes quite high for a month or more, they might suspect you of tethering without a plan and look into it. It's also said that apps like PDAnet make it very difficult for the service provider to figure out if you are tethering or not - regardless of what you're connected to.
- ooofest
VZW can no longer block tethering on 4g phones. Due to FCC saying so. Simple Google search will fond multiple articles.
There is no restrictions on unlimited versus tiered data plan. What counts is that you have a 4g phone. Check out this article ans the tether away.
http://www.zdnet.com/let-my-wi-fi-go-fcc-rules-verizon-cant-charge-for-wi-fi-tethering-7000001916/
Rocking T2 on the unlocked VSG3!
I've read differently. It sounds like if you have an unlimited data plan you can only use that data plan for a single device meaning that you can't tether the unlimited data. I read multiple places that this is part of the terms of service and it doesn't apply to unlimited data plan users... M
aybe somebody can clarify this for me because it would be great to use my unlimited data for tethering when on vacations.
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Tethering
Its like not paying you bill. You get a warning. You can always deny it or ignore it. Modern PDANet if thats what you are boing to use has some countermeasures. At least 2 I think. Don't know if they are effective. You can just use Orobot to tunnel your traffic and I'm pretty certain that would work. I don't know what you plan to do but I wouldn't go download something shady from some torrent site though. Web browsing and getting email is probably fine.
I've been tethering my laptop to my phone since I first figured out how to do it with the Droid X. Meaning basically since I rooted it and found a decent tether app. Out of 5 people on a business share plan(business version of family plan - add a line for 9.99 etc) I've always had significantly highest usage. 5 gigs at a bare minimum, and not once has verizon figured out I'm tethering.
I honestly dont think they can really tell if you are or arent tehtering. 4g or 3g.
Curious, is Verizon still charging people today who were paying before the ruling? Is it possible now for me to use built in hotspot instead of wifi tether, regardless of whether or not i am on a custom rom? I am using latest synergy atm with wifi tether, i should have no problem using built in right?
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Curious, is Verizon still charging people today who were paying before the ruling? Is it possible now for me to use built in hotspot instead of wifi tether, regardless of whether or not i am on a custom rom? I am using latest synergy atm with wifi tether, i should have no problem using built in right?
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I believe you can if you turn it on through the notification toggles...Why tho? The WiFi for Root Users is a lot more customizable...
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Curious, is Verizon still charging people today who were paying before the ruling? Is it possible now for me to use built in hotspot instead of wifi tether, regardless of whether or not i am on a custom rom? I am using latest synergy atm with wifi tether, i should have no problem using built in right?
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atm no. the software is still there to keep you from doing that. IF you root, the world is your oyster though... and they aren't actually allowed to do anything to do. They just aren't rushing to open everyone up to free hotspotting.
I like to root my phones primarily for enabling wifi tethering. My boss wants me to get work emails on my phone with an app called Good For Enterprise. However, this app detects if the phone is rooted and will not run if so. I am curious about how the app detects the root, and if there is any way around it. However, I do not want to get escorted out of the building by security. It may be wiser to tether without root access, OR if the root/unroot procedure is quick enough I could simply root when I want to tether and then unroot.
I just got an Evo 4G LTE because my old Evo 4G wimax has been dropping calls and cutting out badly. Turns out its network issues, and the new Evo is no better. Sprint claims 4G LTE is completely available here, but that seems to be "on paper" only. I will be returning this Evo today and dropping Sprint altogether. I chose a 2gig tethering plan for $20 just to test the bandwidth before modifying the new Evo - Evo and pc connect just fine but webpages will not load!)
I guess I will get a MetroPCS phone. I have been looking at the LG Motion, but its files are signed. Therefore, still no custom recovery or ROMs for it. Any suggestions? And what about that Good For Enterprise dilemma? Thanks in advance!! :good:
Edit: I had the name wrong. Its Good For Enterprise, not Good For Business...
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I like to root my phones primarily for enabling wifi tethering. My boss wants me to get work emails on my phone with an app called Good For Enterprise. However, this app detects if the phone is rooted and will not run if so. I am curious about how the app detects the root, and if there is any way around it. However, I do not want to get escorted out of the building by security. It may be wiser to tether without root access, OR if the root/unroot procedure is quick enough I could simply root when I want to tether and then unroot.
I just got an Evo 4G LTE because my old Evo 4G wimax has been dropping calls and cutting out badly. Turns out its network issues, and the new Evo is no better. Sprint claims 4G LTE is completely available here, but that seems to be "on paper" only. I will be returning this Evo today and dropping Sprint altogether. I chose a 2gig tethering plan for $20 just to test the bandwidth before modifying the new Evo - Evo and pc connect just fine but webpages will not load!)
I guess I will get a MetroPCS phone. I have been looking at the LG Motion, but its files are signed. Therefore, still no custom recovery or ROMs for it. Any suggestions? And what about that Good For Enterprise dilemma? Thanks in advance!! :good:
Edit: I had the name wrong. Its Good For Enterprise, not Good For Business...
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