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does anyone know if MS is going to add tabbed browsing to IE 6on6? Of all the walkthroughs and demos that i've seen of the browser, i've yet to see or hear anything about tabbed browsing. Anyone know if this will come to fruition...not that it'll be a deal breaker or anything, but i've grown quite accustomed to the multi-page viewing which i can do in opera 9.5
i don't see what the point....you can just click the new tab button under file or just click the 1/8 of a tab just below the address bar or google bar or yahoo bar/ what ever you have.....on second thought....just click file and then new tab.
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dude what...im sorry but the first part of ur post makes no sense. anyways i guess since ur talking about all the other stuff in the 2nd part of ur post ur saying "yes" it does have tabbed browsing
Hi!
I'm really satisfied with my HD2 except for 2 things:
1. It doesn't play flash as promised right away (luckily I found the fixOperaFlash in this Forum)
2. When you have large dropdown menus, they are a real pain in the ass to use. Especially the large ones, which are bigger than the screen - e.g. if you are trying to select a brand name from a used car search site. It always takes me several tries before I get to move the menu bar after the dropdown menu appeared. It always scrolls around or the context menu appears.
Is there any possibility to get an easy to scroll dropdown menu like on the iPhone or the G2 Google Phone? I think this is somehow an Opera related problem, not exactly one of the HD2. But on the other hand, on other windows mobile phones you have a stylus, which makes it easier to move the scroll bar. With the HD2 you have not stylus, just the real nice capacitive display. Therefore I think there is a strong need to have flick scrolling drop down menu in Opera on the HD2. Can anybody help please? Thanx in advance.
It is excellent in iPhone for true.
However, it is not possible at the moment in HD2
It is because of the limitations in native windows OS I believe.
skr_xd said:
It is excellent in iPhone for true.
However, it is not possible at the moment in HD2
It is because of the limitations in native windows OS I believe.
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The drop down menus in Skyfire are much better, so it's really an Opera limitation.
Do you tested new version of Opera Mobile 10 beta 2?
Still limited?
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Toss3 said:
The drop down menus in Skyfire are much better, so it's really an Opera limitation.
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Actually he is referring to the dropdown menus within websites in browser.
I donno if you mean the same.
In iphone, the smaller dialog box like selecting language in a website, are different & easy to select as shown below (captured from my iphone 3GS)
It's a limitation of Opera.
Try another browser.
seed_al said:
It's a limitation of Opera.
Try another browser.
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Which browser you are trying about?
Skyfire?
It still needs to use the scroll bar and NOT scrolling inside data in menu.
Any other browser?
skr_xd said:
Which browser you are trying about?
Skyfire?
It still needs to use the scroll bar and NOT scrolling inside data in menu.
Any other browser?
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While the Iphone's method is indeed good it's far from optimal as I like to see all of the options at the same time, which is why I find skyfire's implementation to be the best.
Toss3 said:
While the Iphone's method is indeed good it's far from optimal as I like to see all of the options at the same time, which is why I find skyfire's implementation to be the best.
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BTW, have you browsed with iphone? or are you comparing photos\videos?
It is very easy to scroll with iphone that you don't regret for not showing the more items in the list.
Iam using both and i FEEL the iphone's one is better in this area.
Personal opinions may differ though
Just checked with Opera Mobile 10 Beta2.
The scrolling in drop down menu works well within the popped up list.
Excellent.
So the original issue was the inability to open more than 2 "Heavy" sites before Opera stop loading anymore in new tabs. This has been solved on my device thanks to c4Lvin in post "11"
I thought I could also share a couple of registry settings that improved my browsing experience a great deal (cab attached):
Increase Scrolling FPS
I changed the following key to:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Opera\Info]
PanFps=50
Increase Zooming FPS
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Opera\Info]
ZoomFps=50
These two above make a world of difference in smoothness of both scrolling and zooming on my device. Do not enter a value higher than 50 or it will not take effect (at least it did not on my HD2)
Also,
Lower Default Zoom (Really takes advantage of the HD2 beautiful screen)
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Opera\Prefs\Adaptative Zoom]
Default Zoom=100
Edit:
OK guys, I have created a cab that "Should" work. I tested it on my HD2 and it worked, but, INSTALL AT OWN RISK
What the cab should do is introduce (change existent values to) the following:
HKLM\Software\Opera\Info\PanFps=50
HKLM\Software\Opera\Info\ZoomFps=50
And it will also create an Opera_Smooth_log.txt file under \My Documents\ (Yes Phone Memory, you can delete it)
Enjoy
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Thanks for this, made Opera browser even better. Hopefully when Opera Mobile 10 comes out they can include all the HD2 tweaks for it as well.
Great! works fine...thnx
You are a genius!!!!
Boy this has got to be the absolute best tweak ever! I can't believe nobody else had this earlier (at least I wasn't aware of it). It was never mentioned on the tweaks section. Your few reg tweaks just made the HD2 scroll SO SMOOTH (similar to IE). I totally agree with you on 2+ tabs on heavy sites. I can't ever load my ebay pages and engadget without closing one or the other which is a shame. I noticed it's not the opera's program itself but I think when the chef cooks the rom, some will open more and some opens less. If you see under the taskmgr (manager) that depending on what ROM, it maxes out at about 3.5-3.7MB. Some ROMS are 4MB+ then it won't open anymore pages without you closing one. Believe me I've looked for MANY MANY tweaks to make this really a multitasking phone. I can careless about SMS problems and facebook apps (sorry If I offended anyone). The web is what everyone needs. So opening 2 tabs of hardcore information super highway just won't cut it for me. Let me know when you find something new!!! I also enable TURBO MODE which seem to help it abit. All cooked ROMS don't have it enabled, not sure why.
Good luck! I'll be checking this thread quite often!
I just went under the registry and saw something under HKLM/SOFTWARE/OPERA/MEMORYLIMITS which can play an important part on this...gonna try to fiddle around with it now. BE BACK!
Thanks for your tweaks. I especially like the default zoom tweak. I was looking for this, but postponed it constantly, because I don't like the hassle of blindly changing the reg. till I get what I'm looking for.
Thanks again. Keep those reg. tweaks coming!
Nice tweak. There is a noticible improvement in the fluidity of panning and zooming (with pinch).
Think I got it!
OK, i just finished tinkering with the registry and I can open up a few more tabs COMPLETELY without any errors. Pages include the webpages you mentioned, www.facebook.com (logged in and non mobile), www.lifehacker.com (non-mobile), engadget.com (full page), my ebay selling page with over 200 + items and thumbs, www.coasttocoastam.com...then i checked my CPU usage and at times it's over 50% and then up to 95%..it goes back down..so at least it's alot of improvement. Not alot of people use that many tabs and especially these heavy pages but I do need some of them. I think it works great. It hasn't crashed once so far. Need to further test it.
Really great tweaks!.. I wonder why HTC didn't include these in the first place...oh wait..this is HTC we're talking ..the same guys that couldn't work out how SMS works..
Just a question.. are those values in hexadecimal or decimal only???
OK Guys, here is a picture of my settings before I edited them. I simply multiplied them x2 for each item. Also it works better with "automatic cacheRAM" (Opera:config). Try it out and you can open almost anything (at least for everyday use). Good luck guys!
Great you guys find it useful ... I'll try and make a cab out of them
Great! thanks, I'll try those tonight and see what I get
c4Lvin said:
OK Guys, here is a picture of my settings before I edited them. I simply multiplied them x2 for each item. Also it works better with "automatic cacheRAM" (Opera:config). Try it out and you can open almost anything (at least for everyday use). Good luck guys!
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thanks
thx to all the people who found out those tweaks. They work! Perfectly!
It really did help. Its way nicer to work with Opera now.
the hd2 develops more more - let the tweaks come day per day hehe
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Great you guys find it useful ... I'll try and make a cab out of them
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That would be GREAT! I have learned almost everything regarding what to know about the HTC HD2, but that 'reg editing' is something I still have almost no knowledge of. Guess I should learn it... anybody have a link to a good guide on how to change these values? Yes I have searched before asking
Nice!!
Well my friend, I am happy to announce that you've nailed it I managed to open as follows:
Facebook home (fully loaded)
Google Reader with 50 Items on show (fully loaded)
Lifehacker (fully loaded)
Wikipedia English homepage (fully loaded)
Discover Windows Mobile (fully loaded)
Engadget Home (fully loaded!!)
Pocketnow (Partially loaded)
HTC (fully loaded)
Modaco (Very partly loaded)
This is exactly what I was looking for. THANK YOU
Should I mark the thread as [SOLVED] ?
c4Lvin said:
OK Guys, here is a picture of my settings before I edited them. I simply multiplied them x2 for each item. Also it works better with "automatic cacheRAM" (Opera:config). Try it out and you can open almost anything (at least for everyday use). Good luck guys!
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This would be great +++++
try too, that tweats, with:
Auto_Pan_Speed - 45
astrodemoniac said:
Increase Scrolling FPS
I changed the following key to:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Opera\Info]
PanFps=50
Increase Zooming FPS
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Opera\Info]
ZoomFps=50
These two above make a world of difference in smoothness of both scrolling and zooming on my device. Do not enter a value higher than 50 or it will not take effect (at least it did not on my HD2)
Lower Default Zoom (Really takes advantage of the HD2 beautiful screen)
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Opera\Prefs\Adaptative Zoom]
Default Zoom=100
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This is a really useful thread about Opera tweaking. You should rename it to:
IMPROVE OPERA Browser: More tabs + Smoother Scrolling + Better Zoom Out.
Thanks a lot!
I love my TF. I hate browsing the web on it. Such a shame that the job it is meant to do, is the job it seems to do most poorly. Perhaps its down to the browsers, since I have yet to find one that doesnt get in the way of my surfing. I would be happy if I could find one with a navigation bar that doesnt disappear every time I scroll down the page. I have plenty screen for it, why can't I at least have the option? Is there any browser with a static navigation bar? I'm not using a phone, so I'd like my navigation buttons to be accessable regardless of where on the page I'm at. I'd love to have my tabs static too! Why is this such a hard request? If firefox would just port it's pc interface over it's android browser(which i find stable but a crappy interface), I would be in love.
Oh, and I hate gestures. I like actual buttons with real text labels.
Please call me a noob and tell me what I'm looking for already exists. I will praise you for it.
Anyone else driven mad by the web browsing experience on honeycomb?
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I love my TF. I hate browsing the web on it. Such a shame that the job it is meant to do, is the job it seems to do most poorly. Perhaps its down to the browsers, since I have yet to find one that doesnt get in the way of my surfing. I would be happy if I could find one with a navigation bar that doesnt disappear every time I scroll down the page. I have plenty screen for it, why can't I at least have the option? Is there any browser with a static navigation bar? I'm not using a phone, so I'd like my navigation buttons to be accessable regardless of where on the page I'm at. I'd love to have my tabs static too! Why is this such a hard request? If firefox would just port it's pc interface over it's android browser(which i find stable but a crappy interface), I would be in love.
Oh, and I hate gestures. I like actual buttons with real text labels.
Please call me a noob and tell me what I'm looking for already exists. I will praise you for it.
Anyone else driven mad by the web browsing experience on honeycomb?
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Just go to browser settings and go to the labs tab and then unchecked the quick controls box
I already have that unchecked. The problem is that when i scroll down, the back,forward,refresh,and home buttons disappear, along with the address bar. I want it to always be visible. from what i've seen, every browser for android does this, and it makes me batty.
just tap the screen and it comes back/ reappears.
I get that, but it's one tap and wait longer than I want to deal with. 5 browsers on my TF, and they all have this problem. I wonder if the ipad browser is any better...
have you tried dolphin mini? The addess bar stays on the top
faithblinded said:
I already have that unchecked. The problem is that when i scroll down, the back,forward,refresh,and home buttons disappear, along with the address bar. I want it to always be visible. from what i've seen, every browser for android does this, and it makes me batty.
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did you try the new little radial menu that comes when you swipe on the side? i prefer browsing with everything hidden, and just using that radial... it has bookmarks, tabs, close window, etc etc.
opera mobile
faithblinded said:
I already have that unchecked. The problem is that when i scroll down, the back,forward,refresh,and home buttons disappear, along with the address bar. I want it to always be visible. from what i've seen, every browser for android does this, and it makes me batty.
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hey
opera mobile doesn't do that.
address bar along with 5 diff. buttons always stay on top.
try it out, I use it more than stock browser, only downside getting flash to work on it is a
hit or miss affair.
no1
no1_cdn said:
hey
opera mobile doesn't do that.
address bar along with 5 diff. buttons always stay on top.
try it out, I use it more than stock browser, only downside getting flash to work on it is a
hit or miss affair.
no1
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yeah, opera mobile is my primary browser for reading only. use stock browser when I need to access site with JavaScript or flash .
Thanks guys. I have Opera HD but hadn't tried the mini version. Will add it to my arsenal of browsers.
xufuchang said:
yeah, opera mobile is my primary browser for reading only. use stock browser when I need to access site with JavaScript or flash .
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Hi there, just wondering do you have problem with opera mobile displaying everything website smaller when compared to other browsers example stock browser. Every time opera will load the page with such small fonts it hurts to read. I tried to set the default zoom to 125% it looks better but problem is as soon as I click a link or open a new page, it will zoom out and gimme the small fonts again. Anyway to fix the zoom level?
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miata said:
Hi there, just wondering do you have problem with opera mobile displaying everything website smaller when compared to other browsers example stock browser. Every time opera will load the page with such small fonts it hurts to read. I tried to set the default zoom to 125% it looks better but problem is as soon as I click a link or open a new page, it will zoom out and gimme the small fonts again. Anyway to fix the zoom level?
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hey
type in the address bar:
opera:config
hit enter, you'll see a page with diff. settings open up.
scroll down to:
"user prefs"
tap it and it'll expand then again scroll down to:
minimum font size
change the value from default 9 to whatever you like then scroll down to the bottom
and hit "save" button then hit 'ok' in the pop up.
also to speed up opera even more try this:
find "performance" section
tap to open
then scroll down and change the following values:
Max Connections Server 6
Max Connections Total 6
Max Persistent Connections 6
after, scroll down and hit save button then hit 'OK' in the pop up.
you can experiment with diff. values for "connections" settings, however I wouldn't go over 8,8,8 or 10,10,10 as some websites might load slower than with default values (4,6,4)
my browser doesn't always keep the saved settings, sometimes it'll revert to default values...
so it's really a hit or miss, at least for me...
also, the 'default zoom', 125% or whatever % you specify, happens when you double tap the text on screen, it'll zoom that amount
and also reflow the text to fit screen.
no1
does opera mobile play flash?cause mine (ver 11) won't play,it shows big question mark,when clicked nothing happened
no1_cdn said:
hey
type in the address bar:
opera:config
hit enter, you'll see a page with diff. settings open up.
scroll down to:
"user prefs"
tap it and it'll expand then again scroll down to:
minimum font size
change the value from default 9 to whatever you like then scroll down to the bottom
and hit "save" button then hit 'ok' in the pop up.
no1
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The problem with increasing the Minimu font size from 9 to just 12, is it will cut off the right side of somw sites. Like on xda the search button on the top right get cut off if u increase the size. I don't think opera mobile is made for table.
xufuchang said:
does opera mobile play flash?cause mine (ver 11) won't play,it shows big question mark,when clicked nothing happened
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Nope, not on honeycomb
thanks no1_cdn found out the font tweak last night and it seems to help in readability
will try your performance tweak soon! thanks again
miata said:
thanks no1_cdn found out the font tweak last night and it seems to help in readability
will try your performance tweak soon! thanks again
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you're welcome miata
try going through this page to customise more, opera:config settings explained:
www.opera.com/support/usingopera/operaini/
although its for desktop version, settings still apply to mobile...
no1
dazz87 said:
The problem with increasing the Minimu font size from 9 to just 12, is it will cut off the right side of somw sites. Like on xda the search button on the top right get cut off if u increase the size. I don't think opera mobile is made for table.
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you're right.
I find 12 to be maximum size in order to avoid what you described above.
also I have to kill opera using 'task killer' for saved font setting to take effect.
no1
wondering which browser you are using for your Note and is able to handle and take advantage of the extra screen real estate
I'm using Dolphin because it let's me easily choose for a Desktop Useragent. I tried about:debug and about:config on the Galaxy Note stock browser but I couldn't find any option to change the UA-settings. Skyfire is cool for when you don't have flash if you ask me and feels more like a mobile browser. Excuse me if things have changed a lot the past few months because I haven't really tried it recently.
Dolphin and Opera are the best browsers! I prefer Dolphin - no bugs, best performance, easy interface and closest to PC desktop browser.
Im using Maxthon cuz it can sync with the PC version, have custom string, can switch between www and wap.
Tested downloading speed (10 graphic heavy sites) and
Boat Browser mini was consistantly fastest along with stock. Opera Mobile a close second.
Browsers like dolphin are more feature rich but just slower.
Xscope Pro. It's smoother than the stock browser.
dolphin...due to the speed dials and bookmark bars
Dolphin,tabs,ui,fast,bookmark bar
Opera becauste of the text reflow after zooming. I couldn't find that in any other browser.
Jip-Hop said:
I'm using Dolphin because it let's me easily choose for a Desktop Useragent. I tried about:debug and about:config on the Galaxy Note stock browser but I couldn't find any option to change the UA-settings. Skyfire is cool for when you don't have flash if you ask me and feels more like a mobile browser. Excuse me if things have changed a lot the past few months because I haven't really tried it recently.
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for the note, the command is 'about:useragent', lol.
and the easiest way to set it is to save it as a bookmark, and save the bookmark to your homescreen. then when you want to quickly use it, just tap the bookmark, tap the address bar and it will show 'about:useragent', then hit go, choose your agent.
its not quite as easy as the dolphin set once and forever, but the stock browser is GPU accelerated and is much faster and so much smoother than dolphin HD.
For some reason in boat browser and others it only reflows using the on-screen zoom icon.
QUOTE=olympicchicken;19491662]Opera becauste of the text reflow after zooming. I couldn't find that in any other browser.[/QUOTE]
As of a few days ago I've become a huge opera fan. Because of this thread I've tried all of the other major ones and I gotta say opera beats the pants off of them for one huge reason. Try typing a new post on this site with your mobile browser. At least a few sentences. Opera wraps the text in the text entry box while the others don't. When you see errors in your post and you go back over it, tapping on words to fix, opera is the only one that's not buggy. With opera you type the new word and you're done. With the others, half the time the new word pops up a sentence or two away (!!). Also with the others, it takes twice as many clicks to reposition the cursor and start writing, and if you're trying to insert the cursor right at a line break you're screwed.
Opera seriously blows the others out of the water as far as usability. Especially if you do any text entry. I wrote this with boat browser, and my previous long post on this forum using dolphin, and I gotta say, you couldn't pay me not to use opera from now on.
Yes this posting/box typing thing can be a pain. ...but its usually after typing quite a bit. Briefly changing to landscape and typing corrects it...but it IS a pain. Didn't know Opera corrected it...but it wouldn't change me over because I depend on fairly fast mobile data trainsmission for what I do and Opera lags a bit in that dept. It is a great browser tho...it would be my second choice for sure.
Dolphin Browser HD because I like the gestures and easy access tabs.
Souai said:
its not quite as easy as the dolphin set once and forever, but the stock browser is GPU accelerated and is much faster and so much smoother than dolphin HD.
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lol i didnt know that
Now that you mentioned it I find the stock browser runs significantly smoother than any other browser dolphin opera included.
Thanks!
Stock. it's smooth as butter.
Dolphin Browser HD together with Opera (as 2nd) is what I use.
I liked Dolphin until I noticed that the more tabs left open the more CPU usage it was using, even when not in use. Tried both HD and mini.
Stuck to Opera now, quick and smooth and doesn't use up CPU usage when closed.
Dolphin HD is it!
Dolphin HD is my favourite because not only is it fast and with a simple user interface, it is the only one that actually has an 'Exit' in the menu -allowing me to completely quit the application. Others remain in memory unless you kill them from the task manager.
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Dolphin HD is my favourite because not only is it fast and with a simple user interface, it is the only one that actually has an 'Exit' in the menu -allowing me to completely quit the application. Others remain in memory unless you kill them from the task manager.
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Opera has that to, you just have to enable it in settings first
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