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Does anyone know of a source to obtain the original wall charger that comes with the Nexus One? What is the mA rating of this charger? I hear conflicting reports of between 800mA and 1000mA. I thought I could use a standard blackberry micro-usb charger, but I want one that charges more quickly, if possible. Thanks.
Jim.
I don't see the exact wall charger on their site, but there is a USB -> wall adapter that I am assuming works exactly the same.
http://wsf1-shopamerica.htc.com/accessories.htm?prId=37438
Cheers
I noticed in the LG v10 documents it states clearly that another charger will damage the battery.
The stock AC Charger only chargers @ 1.8a. That's not even Quick Charge 1.0 specs. So I'm trying to read past the marketing BS and see how many amps I can charge this phone on. QC 2.0 spec is 5v/3a. My old Samsung chargers are about 2.1 - 2.4a. as well as my car charger.
I don't see how this battery is any different and could be damaged by charger at slightly higher amps than the lowly 1.8a stock.
Also, has anyone found a screen protector in stock locally? I'm thinkin of going with a thinner plastic protector, made from Aliphatic, of course.
Quick Charge 2.0 changes the volts, it will change from 12volts to 9v back down to 5v
Tronsmart said:
LG V10 support qualcomm quick charge 2.0 technology, check here:https://www.qualcomm.com/news/snapdragon/2015/10/01/lg-v10-device-creative-adventurer
any of the chargers which list on qualcomm site should be ok for charging the LG V10.
if you said the stock charger is just 1.8A, then LG make some current limit in the LG V10. however, you can just talk the current. For quick charge 2.0 technology , you can get 9V volt when charging, total power is 9V/1.8A (16.2W).
@LancerV, in our test, most of the qc2.0 support device, the volt will keep at 9v in charging. we never seen any smartphone can support 12V volt, and in the whole charging, the current become small, but volt keep at 9V around.
see our charging analysis for different device here:
http://www.tronsmart.com/charging-analysis
If anyone who already get the LG V10, we would love to send free qc2.0 chargers for testing. Please just send us PM.
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I just got my LG V10 from Verizon and I would like to test qc2.o chargers,how I can send you a PM (never done that before)
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I noticed in the LG v10 documents it states clearly that another charger will damage the battery.
The stock AC Charger only chargers @ 1.8a. That's not even Quick Charge 1.0 specs. So I'm trying to read past the marketing BS and see how many amps I can charge this phone on. QC 2.0 spec is 5v/3a. My old Samsung chargers are about 2.1 - 2.4a. as well as my car charger.
I don't see how this battery is any different and could be damaged by charger at slightly higher amps than the lowly 1.8a stock.
Also, has anyone found a screen protector in stock locally? I'm thinkin of going with a thinner plastic protector, made from Aliphatic, of course.
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I don't have mine yet, but I'm sure it doesn't state that, it should state something like 'may damage if not used with supplied charger', this is normal as all brands also state this.
also you can get a QUALCOMM QC 2.0 from many brands, and they all should work, I myself have one from aukey and a Xpower travel charger which work with even non QUALCOMM QC units.
I prefer to charge at normal speed, fast charging will probably kill your battery faster.
Qualcomm QC 2.0 chargers uses 12V/9V and 5V
xxceler8 said:
I noticed in the LG v10 documents it states clearly that another charger will damage the battery.
The stock AC Charger only chargers @ 1.8a. That's not even Quick Charge 1.0 specs. So I'm trying to read past the marketing BS and see how many amps I can charge this phone on. QC 2.0 spec is 5v/3a. My old Samsung chargers are about 2.1 - 2.4a. as well as my car charger.
I don't see how this battery is any different and could be damaged by charger at slightly higher amps than the lowly 1.8a stock.
Also, has anyone found a screen protector in stock locally? I'm thinkin of going with a thinner plastic protector, made from Aliphatic, of course.
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The LG v10 does not "Fast Charge" and Samsung 2.4 amp and other "Fast Chargers" do not charge the LG v10 any faster than a standard old iPhone cube. QC 2.0 is different and it's referred to as "quick charge" to differentiate it. Remember the phone will only draw as much as it can handle regardless of the charger's amp ratings, unless faulty or incompatible. Many incompatible chargers will charge the phone at the same rate from start to finish, keeping the battery warm, which may reduce battery life. YMMV
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I don't have mine yet, but I'm sure it doesn't state that, it should state something like 'may damage if not used with supplied charger', this is normal as all brands also state this.
also you can get a QUALCOMM QC 2.0 from many brands, and they all should work, I myself have one from aukey and a Xpower travel charger which work with even non QUALCOMM QC units.
I prefer to charge at normal speed, fast charging will probably kill your battery faster.
Qualcomm QC 2.0 chargers uses 12V/9V and 5V
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The best QC 2.0 charger I've owned and used is the ZeroLemon Charger. Phone wouldn't get too warm, and it would taper off towards the end, the phone was cool to touch. I also use Aukey, Motorola Turbo and Tronsmart home and car chargers that are both fast charge and have 1 qc 2.0 port.
All of my TYLT, Samsung, misc. 2.4 amp fast chargers charge the v10 at less than 1000 mA~
When connecting an LG v10 with low battery %, it charges at 9v~ from 2400-2850mA with main screen off. Rate depending on various factors, including quality of charger and cable, at start then tapers off at higher %.
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The LG v10 does not "Fast Charge" and Samsung 2.4 amp and other "Fast Chargers" do not charge the LG v10 any faster than a standard old iPhone cube. QC 2.0 is different and it's referred to as "quick charge" to differentiate it. Remember the phone will only draw as much as it can handle regardless of the charger's amp ratings, unless faulty or incompatible. Many incompatible chargers will charge the phone at the same rate from start to finish, keeping the battery warm, which may reduce battery life. YMMV.
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The V10 does have quick charging, not too sure if it's the qualcomm, the information is stated in LG V10 brochure.
28 minutes for 50% and 85minutes for 100%
I wonder if it has QC 3.0 capabilities, anyone know?
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The V10 does have quick charging, not too sure if it's the qualcomm, the information is stated in LG V10 brochure.
28 minutes for 50% and 85minutes for 100%
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Yes the v10 has quick charging. At least qc 2.0~ as long as your main screen remains off. 60-100mins for 100% is quick charge, remember it's only "QUICK" from 0-60% after that it's normal to save the battery from dying out too quickly.
Slow normal charge takes 3hours+ to get to 100% usually..
I was a Note 7 refugee so I have the stock Samsung fast AC charger here. Model EP-TA20JWE rated at 9v @ 1.67A and 5v @ 2A. It's in my kitchen.
I have the original AC charger that came with the Pixel XL. Model TC G1000-US rated at 9v @ 2.0A and 5v @ 0.5A I have only used once to get this information.
I also have a mobile charger in my car. It is labeled as Qualcomm QC 3.0 certified which is why I bought it as the Note 7 was a QC 3.0 device. It is a Choetech Model C0051 rated at 9.1v~12v @ 1.5A Max, 5.6v~9v @ 2A Max, and 3.6v~5.5v @ 2.4A Max (the iFixit teardown has revealed a Qualcomm QC 3.0 IC in the Pixel)
Additionally I have a charger by the bed which is from my Nexus 6, Motorola "Turbo Charger" Model SSW-2680US rated at 5v @ 1.6A, 9v @ 1.6A, and 12v @ 1.2A.
All of the chargers are using their original CABLE (USBA to USBC except in the case of the Pixel which is USBC to USBC) included EXCEPT the Motorola Turbo Charger, which is using a 6 foot long braided USBA to Micro USB cable with the Micro USB to USBC adapter that came with the Note 7.
What I found so far was all three work well and all three are recognized by the phone as a rapid charger.
I also found that at 60% charge and plugging in each one long enough for the lock screen to give me the "rapid charging XX minutes until full" message, the Samsung EP-TA20JWE fast charger charges it faster than the Google TC G1000US or the Choetech C0051. The Google and Choetech appear to charge at the same rate based on time until full. The Motorola Turbo Charger charges at an extremely fast rate, like it took it from 58% to 77% in maybe 5-10 minutes and was saying 15 minutes to full at 77%.
My battery life is phenomenal for me at 5-6 hours SOT, I have no issues with any of these chargers, they all see charging time every day. Turbo charger overnight, Samsung Note 7 charger when in the kitchen where I am a lot, mobile charger when driving to work or classes... (except the actual Pixel charger which I haven't found a use for yet but will probably go to work with me.
*Based on my findings I am going to put the Samsung Note 7 charger in the kitchen and the slowest Pixel charger in the bedroom and take the fastest Turbo charger to work.
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I know my test method isn't to some people's satisfaction but the time to full calculation is based on how much the phone is charged now (which I kept within +/- 2% for each check) and how much current the device wants to draw from what's available. What's interesting is the device draws power much quicker than the Pixel charger supplies it when it is plugged into more capable chargers.
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Good information. It's nice to knows that all the accessories I got for my note won't go to waste lol.
Thank you.
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I have been having varying experiences.
My Anker QC 3.0 type C wall charger seems to charge rapidly, although at the 5V/3A only, with a 6.6ft USB 2.0 i-orange cable. Using a 3.3ft USB 3.0 cable, it shows charging rapidly when I first plug it in, but a few minutes later only shows charging.. but seems to be charging rapidly? My Tronsmart type C w/ QC 3.0 car charger, using an Anker Powerline+ type C cable, shows charging rapidly, but said it had 1+ hour until full when at 70%... Ampere only showed 1.6A being sent to the phone too. I tried an iVoler charger with type C and QC 3.0 and got up to 2050mAh, but it was likely only 5V (which I would expect) but still didn't seem to be charging all that fast.
I think this whole USB-PD thing is going to really be dependent on proper chargers and cables. All of these chargers/cables worked perfect on my Nexus 6P - doesn't seem to be the case on the Pixel.
Thanks for the experience folks. I had purchased a qc 3.0 tronsmart on sale at amazon which I was going to return. I got usb c cables with pd from monoprice. I suppose even if it doesn't fast charge at 18w (9v X 2a), I'd be ok with 15 w charging if I don't have to go out and buy a new car charger.
I mean faster is nice but if it still charges at a good rate, the lower current might help the battery last longer too right?
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Thanks for the experience folks. I had purchased a qc 3.0 tronsmart on sale at amazon which I was going to return. I got usb c cables with pd from monoprice. I suppose even if it doesn't fast charge at 18w (9v X 2a), I'd be ok with 15 w charging if I don't have to go out and buy a new car charger.
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I have bad news for you. I have a Tronsmart QC 3.0 type C charger too - one from a year ago though, don't know if the design has changed - and it is NOT rapid charging my device. It worked perfect on my Nexus 6P. It will start out by saying "charging rapidly" on the Pixel XL, but after several minutes, goes down to "charging" and the charge time is 2+ hours, Ampere shows really low current, etc. It COULD be the Anker Powerline+ type C cable I am using... but I highly doubt it. I think the fact that the type C port has QC 3.0 is not playing nice with the USB-PD chip, and causing it to drop support for 5V/3A all together. I will test this more tonight with the stock cable and see if it works any better.
Did some testing: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69309771&postcount=30
Man I totally forgot about my Motorola Turbo chargers I got from Groupon. I wish I could find my @zerolemon charger too.. Ill test them with my USB USB Doctor dongles.. When I find them... lol
psa; cables make a huge difference in my experience.
I also have a tronsmart qc2 1 + 3 fast port car charger Ill test and post results.
Perhaps not the right thread but I have just been sent these USB-C cables to review for free.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B01EEACOVO/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Amazon says they are rated to 2.4A but will they damage by Pixel XL? I'm not expecting them to charge 'rapidly' but would be handy to be able to use them with an older 2A charger.
Do you think they are safe?
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Why do so many people try to get a charger with as high a wattage rating as possible but ignore the fact that USB-C is limited to 3A and all you need to do is find a charger capable of delivering 3A.
What does wattage have to do with things?
Not trying to be a jerk, I'm just assuming I must be missing something here.
CZ Eddie said:
Why do so many people try to get a charger with as high a wattage rating as possible but ignore the fact that USB-C is limited to 3A and all you need to do is find a charger capable of delivering 3A.
What does wattage have to do with things?
Not trying to be a jerk, I'm just assuming I must be missing something here.
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Because more watts = more power. USB-C may be limited to 3A, but it is not limited to 5V. Higher volts at the same amperage = more wattage = more power. If you want the fastest charging possible, you need a 9V/2A+ USB-PD charger.
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it is not limited to 5V.
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I didn't realize it was OK to go with higher than 5v now.
Do you know if it's okay to hard wire directly into a 12V system for charging? Like in the car? I'm guessing "no it's not okay" but I'm still learning about USB-C.
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tap = hard wire/splice into. As in, no adapter. Just a USB-C at one end and then snip the connector off the other end and use the two power wires and two ground wires to splice directly into say, the back of a cigarette charger's 12V wiring.
CZ Eddie said:
I didn't realize it was OK to go with higher than 5v now.
Do you know if it's okay to hard wire directly into a 12V system for charging? Like in the car? I'm guessing "no it's not okay" but I'm still learning about USB-C.
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tap = hard wire/splice into. As in, no adapter. Just a USB-C at one end and then snip the connector off the other end and use the two power wires and two ground wires to splice directly into say, the back of a cigarette charger's 12V wiring.
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There is no way that would work, nor would it be safe. There HAS to be an adapter to safely charge the phone by regulating voltage and current, as well as shutting off the charge once it hits 100%.
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There is no way that would work, nor would it be safe. There HAS to be an adapter to safely charge the phone by regulating voltage and current, as well as shutting off the charge once it hits 100%.
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It's my understanding that some/all of the regulating is done on-board some phones.
I know I never had any issues with my 3A 12v to 5v converter hard wired to S4 and Note 3 phones for charging in either my car or Motorcycle.
At least, I didn't notice any issues.
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It's my understanding that some/all of the regulating is done on-board some phones.
I know I never had any issues with my 3A 12v to 5v converter hard wired to S4 and Note 3 phones for charging in either my car or Motorcycle.
At least, I didn't notice any issues.
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Well you're a brave soul. I wouldn't ever think to try something like that. Especially not with USB-C & Power Delivery now. The phone is responsible for some of the charging regulation, but the charger itself is just as important.
CZ Eddie said:
Why do so many people try to get a charger with as high a wattage rating as possible but ignore the fact that USB-C is limited to 3A and all you need to do is find a charger capable of delivering 3A.
What does wattage have to do with things?
Not trying to be a jerk, I'm just assuming I must be missing something here.
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Because with USB PD the Pixel can charge at 18W by using 2A by 9V. So just looking for a 3A charger doesn't give you the fastest possible charging for the Pixel. Using a standard 3A charger will charge it at 3A by 5V for 15W. You multiply the voltage and amperage to determine wattage.
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I have an aukey car charger and my pixel phone rapid charges when I use the QC 3.0 port, but not the USB c port.
Anyone try the other Motorola turbo chargers 15, 25, 30? Id be curious to know if they work any better. They say the phone must support "turbo"..
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CZ Eddie said:
I didn't realize it was OK to go with higher than 5v now.
Do you know if it's okay to hard wire directly into a 12V system for charging? Like in the car? I'm guessing "no it's not okay" but I'm still learning about USB-C.
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tap = hard wire/splice into. As in, no adapter. Just a USB-C at one end and then snip the connector off the other end and use the two power wires and two ground wires to splice directly into say, the back of a cigarette charger's 12V wiring.
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No definitely not. Car Battery supplies too much wattage/amerpage and its missing the PD ic and other protections in most good charger (over volt, under volt, circuit protection, trickle, power cut off, ect). Thats why all this talk about chargers and cables that do not meet requirements burning equipment/phones up.
It will never know when to stop charging or if over charging and catch fire...
Thats why its not advisable to buy cheap no name unbranded batteries, cables and chargers.
Usb c isnt just a connector/ plug theres an ic (computer chip) in control as well on both sides.
The chip in your battery talks w the one in the phone that talks w the one in the charger..
Hello
can someone share what are the optimal specs that car charger for note 9 should have?
i am looking for chip and small car charger but that has optimal spec for charging fast.
thanks
QC 2.0 charger, Samsung's own adaptive fast charger or wireless. I'd recommend Anker if you can still find QC 2.0 chargers by them. Or their batteries with USB charging or wireless like the new Tesla charger.
Hello and thanks for the answer.
what is the difference between QC2 and samsung adaptative ? this means also that QC3 is usable? i have read somewhere that are chargers that "talk" to the phone to discover the best current to apply....
thanks
Note9 only supports QC 2.0 unless something changed. Some people complain but I don't like charging my phone fast unless I have to and 2.0 is plenty fast. It is less wear on the battery, which is sealed, and I don't want a bulging sealed phone and for it to last 2 years.
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Adapative charger should've came in the box. I also got a charger when I caught the DEX pad on sale @ Samsung for $37.50, $40 after tax.
for example EP-LN930B is the right car charger for note 9? i have searched but there are a plenty of them from samsung on the market..
So when you buy a Moto G Stylus (2021), it comes with a 10W charger. And 10W that is sort of what is cagily listed on the Moto website for this device. But when I plug it into a QC3 charger, I get about a 14W charging rate (5V x 2.8A). Does anybody know the maximum charge rate for this device, and specific charger models that can provide it? Would a USB-C PD charger at a higher wattage be able to charge at a faster rate? Thanks in advance for your comments on this matter.
To answer your question, yes a USB C PD adapter would provide faster charging. So long as it's QC 3.0 or higher. 18W or 30W should be fine, I believe the phone input charge maxes out at 15 Watts (absolutely no permission to quote me on that lol) so if you don't mind a bit of heat and the potential of degrading your battery slightly faster than with charging on a standard 1A, 2.4V charger, then the 18W or 27W USB C wall adapter that is compatible with QC 3.0 or 4.0, should be sufficient. Don't forget to grab a couple good grade USB C to C cables as they are often the first thing to go bad and prevents turbocharge from kicking in.
Thanks for the comments, @mario0318 So if I am currently seeing 14W (5V x 2.8A) with a QC3 charger, it sounds like I may be near the max already if it is only 15W. I have no USB-C PD chargers yet that I can use to test, but there was a 25W Belkin model on sale today (for Black Friday) for just $10 so I ordered myself one. When it comes in, I'll test it versus the QC3 charger to see if there is any significant difference.
So I have a basic update here. The QC3 charger I mentioned has an LED readout on it, and that is where I got the estimated 14W charge rate (as 5V x 2.8A). The new 25W Belkin charger I got does not have an LED readout for V & A on it, however. So I turned to the Ampere app on the Play Store. Then I swapped back and forth between the two charging systems and watched the estimated charge rate on Ampere. The 25W Belkin charger definitely shows higher charge rates according to the Ampere app. But I've ordered myself a USB C charge meter (like the old USB "doctor" meters, but with USB C connections) from China to document it more closely.
I might be missing something, but one thing I see lacking with the Ampere app is logging capability--it seems like its strength is just showing rates in real time. It would be cool to find an app that can not only monitor in real0time, but also log charging events with V & A stats, etc. I see AccuBattery may potentially provide this. Or any suggestions out there for another battery charge monitoring app that you think might do the trick?
For those potentially interested in the 25W Belkin charger, the specific model is the "WCA004dqWH", and it is on sale now for $10. It is actually mentioned in a news snippet here at XDA:
https://www.xda-developers.com/belkin-usb-c-25w-charger-deal-november-2021/
I think the Battery Manager app by 3C allows recording logs for power charging events. But I forget if there's a limit with the free app compared to the paid/donate unlocked features.
Regarding the charger wattage, I'm fairly sure anything past 25W would be over kill for charging a single device like the 2021 moto g. At that point it becomes more suitable for two devices, with anything far higher like 60W or 85W being totally unnecessary and potentially harmful.
Thanks again, @mario0318 , for your new comments. I agree that anything beyond 25W would be overkill for this phone.
As a further update, I decided to swap over to AccuBattery, and upgrade to the Pro version. As my Stylus was already charged, I decided to try the two chargers with a Nord N10 5G that had arround a 40% charge. The QC3 charger was charging at an average of 1993 mA with the screen off after I left it sit for a few minutes. When I swapped to the 25W Belkin sytem, it jumped to 2993 mA under the same scenario so like a full 1 Amp difference. These are about the same differences I noticed between the two chargers when charging my G Stylus (2021), but I did not want to say that above because they were off-the-cuff observations. But I took screenshots with AccuBattery this time so no apprehension in stating values this time around. I'll do the same with my G Stylus next time it needs a charge.
AccuBattery suggests only charging up to 80% capacity vs. 100% capacity given the wear and tear difference on the battery. I guess I'll try that, but in the long run, replacing the battery on the G Stylus (2021)--if it ever becomes necessary--looks pretty doable based on teardown videos.