What is "Radio" and SPL ?? help me please - myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development

hello all, i have succesfully flashed and rooted my htc magic. But alot of these ROMs in here requries some kind of Radio and SPL i dont really know what it is and how to install it. Can someone explain to me please?

I'm bumping this cuz I just got my android phone and would like to know as well

Post in "general" and you'll have a better chance of getting a helpful reply.

OR you could SEARCH!

eyegor said:
OR you could SEARCH!
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That's crazy talk.

you rooted without knowing what Radio and SPL you had?
what kind of phone you got anyway?

Ordinarily I'd consider adding fuel to the flaming you're about to get, but I'm in a good mood today. Here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=605239

I too suggest that this thread be moved to General.
However, if it should be of any use in searches afterwards, there might as well be some answers
Radio refers to the piece of software that runs the radio hardware.
The SPL - to quote a wiki: "Secondary Program Loader, typically, a second stage bootloader."
There's much information around the net
android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Android_FAQ might get you started.

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can you unlock phones with a 3.08 spl

i dont think u can so if there is a spl downgrade please tell me
How many posts are you going to start asking the same thing?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=328430
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=328660
You've already been given instructions and links on how to downgrade ipl/spl. One person even provided a cab especially for you that should have downgraded your ipl/spl (and you say it only did the ipl..as I recall) Yes it can be done...many of us manage it every day. If you can't get it to work perhaps you need to take it to someone and pay them to do it..and perhaps next time don't be in such a rush to jump to the latest/greatest version.
WELL i need to no do u no or no anything that can lower my spl
Either 1) You've managed to damage your phone to such a extent that the NORMAL downgrade procedures will not work or 2) You can't follow instructions.
In either case, you need to take your phone to someone who repairs them and pay them to fix the issue.
Nno Its Not Broken
THEN FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS YOU WERE GIVEN.. effin n00b
WHAT instruction
IN THE WIKI.. jesus christ.
AND HERE
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=328430
can i plz have a link
DUDE I JSUT GAVE YOU A LINK.. R U SERIOUS? YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN A LINK 3 TIMES.
SEE THE BLUE WRITING IN MY POST? Thats CALLED A LINK.. CLICK ON IT.. WOW.
smart one i wrote that thread to
yeah and you didnt follow the directions.. you should try it sometime... it works.
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smart one i wrote that thread to
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Yes, and the instructions you SHOULD have followed are in the 6th and 8th post.
You are a perfect example of why the more experienced posters (I'm not claiming to be one of them) no longer want to answer questions on this board. You have been given the answer multiple times...you ignore it.and then you post multiple times asking the same thing.
Whatever rom you currently have installed...keep using it or buy a simpler phone that you can handle.
famewolf said:
Yes, and the instructions you SHOULD have followed are in the 6th and 8th post.
You are a perfect example of why the more experienced posters (I'm not claiming to be one of them) no longer want to answer questions on this board. You have been given the answer multiple times...you ignore it.and then you post multiple times asking the same thing.
Whatever rom you currently have installed...keep using it or buy a simpler phone that you can handle.
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I just read this entire thread and agree with you entirely. I am by no means an expert and have no knowledge of G3 since I have a G4 but at least I can read and only ask questions when I really can't figure it out and then actually listen to whoever is helping me. I like helping people with what I do know, but this thread is just rediculous.
you can downgrade from 3.08 IPL/SPL by flashing the stock 2.26 tmobile ROM. i do it before every flash. i flash back to the 2.26 ROM to lower my IPL/SPL, then i flash my new ROM, then i flash 3.08 IPL/SPL. works every time...totally repeatable. STOP BEING A EFFIN NOOB
hehehe funny thread @madcap , you killed me back there
IDIOT.
RETARD
READ THE DAMN STICKIES.
THE FIRST OR SECOND POST IN THE WIZARD UPGRADING THREAD.
The difference between genius and stupidity is; genius has its limits. -Albert Einstein

Can't update Rom to 6.1 in Tilt

I can't update the Rom of my Htc Tilt to wm 6.1 (Duttys Non cube 1.65.14 and Hybrid 1.64.08-tried both). The update process is starting and stays at 0% for 2-3 mins , then showing an error message-"ERROR 262 UPDATE ERROR:..........
I attached a pic of the error message.
Now what shld i do? PLS PLS HELP and REP ASAP.
Did you follow all directions, including Hard SPL first?
Check the Wiki for answers to this error. And use Firefox to post so it will correct all your punctuation and grammatical errors.
ithehappy said:
I can't update the Rom of my Htc Tilt to wm 6.1 (Duttys Non cube 1.65.14 and Hybrid 1.64.08-tried both). The update process is starting and stays at 0% for 2-3 mins , then showing an error message-"ERROR 262 UPDATE ERROR:..........
I attached a pic of the error message.
Now what shld i do? PLS PLS HELP and REP ASAP.
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for your sake i sure hope you flashed hardspl onto your tilt before deciding to flash a rom .. If you did make sure you read the information relevant to your phone and the procedure you were atempting than you are not in too much trouble. All you probably need to do is make sure your phone is synced to the pc and give the flash another shot.
If however you were feeling lazy and didn't bother reading any of the instructions and just flashed the rom after downloading it off of the thread than my friend you are royally screwed. I don't know what to tell you to do next if you didn't flash hardspl first as i don't know (nor hope to) the consequences for not doing that. You need to get in touch with the senior members (be nice in your request) like gsleon3 and see if they can help you solve your issue.
good luck
Yes i got it. Thanks guys. Actually i didn't do the hardspl. Now one last question- Which is best ROM by Dutty? and what is the difference between a cube and a non cube version?
Thanks again for supporting me.
Things you say before you brick your device...
ithehappy said:
Actually i didn't do the hardspl.
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I think you may want to read the wiki's and do the HardSPL, it may save you from paying money for a new device. IMO
best rom
ithehappy said:
Yes i got it. Thanks guys. Actually i didn't do the hardspl. Now one last question- Which is best ROM by Dutty? and what is the difference between a cube and a non cube version?
Thanks again for supporting me.
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best rom is a matter of opinion, try a few see what you like, personally i don't like dutty's roms, i prefer a fully loaded multimedia gaming rom like movile vista 1.3, and as far as your CUBE question search
ithehappy said:
Yes i got it. Thanks guys. Actually i didn't do the hardspl. Now one last question- Which is best ROM by Dutty? and what is the difference between a cube and a non cube version?
Thanks again for supporting me.
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Here is all the files you will need.
http://www.4shared.com/file/4644747...rdSPL_-_SuperCID.html?dirPwdVerified=4118e38c
includes the CID unlocker.
I highly recommend that you do both the HardSPL and the security unlocker.
copy this file do you device.
http://www.4shared.com/file/45993740/de01ecfe/JumpSPL193-KAIS.html?dirPwdVerified=4118e38c
then run the .exe from your phone. Unplug your USB, then reconnect it.
Then disable USB connections in ActiveSync.
Run the HardSPL w/ AT.
After that is completed follow the instructions to CID unlock your phone
AllTheWay said:
Here is all the files you will need.
http://www.4shared.com/file/4644747...rdSPL_-_SuperCID.html?dirPwdVerified=4118e38c
includes the CID unlocker.
I highly recommend that you do both the HardSPL and the security unlocker.
copy this file do you device.
http://www.4shared.com/file/45993740/de01ecfe/JumpSPL193-KAIS.html?dirPwdVerified=4118e38c
then run the .exe from your phone. Unplug your USB, then reconnect it.
Then disable USB connections in ActiveSync.
Run the HardSPL w/ AT.
After that is completed follow the instructions to CID unlock your phone
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Thank you very much. Finally i flashed the tilt with dutty's 1.65.14.06 radio version, but i can't find the radio anywhere in my device. Where is it located?
ithehappy said:
Thank you very much. Finally i flashed the tilt with dutty's 1.65.14.06 radio version, but i can't find the radio anywhere in my device. Where is it located?
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Hidden Away in a magic "lockbox" The only indication you see is next to the "R:" on startup.
JimmyMcGee said:
Hidden Away in a magic "lockbox" The only indication you see is next to the "R:" on startup.
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Please clear this thing....i can't understand.
Please, oh please....don't do another thing to that phone until you have read GWENI. People here have broken a lot of devices and compiled an unbelievable amount of information so that newcomers won't have to make the same destructive mistakes or ask the same old tired questions. It is oh so very frustrating to contribute this work just so somebody can drop in and deftly avoid all of these attempts at shoving information into them. Everybody is being very nice and calm while doing what we call spoonfeeding you. Show that you respect and appreciate the patience by using the resources that the members here have worked so diligently on providing. Trust me, it is time well spent and will keep you from making one of the many mistakes out there that will render your device the most expensive paperweight you own.
Remember, we have forums, threads, Wikis, and stickies. The purpose of all of these is to share our knowledge. Do not walk through this forest blindfolded or you'll find yourself sitting on your backside picking bark out of your teeth.
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Please clear this thing....i can't understand.
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There is no such thing of FM or AM radios in this PDA phone...
That radio is a ROM extension that manages the cellular/wifi/bluetooth radio frequency emissions and audio.
Please read the WIKI in full...
ithehappy said:
Thank you very much. Finally i flashed the tilt with dutty's 1.65.14.06 radio version, but i can't find the radio anywhere in my device. Where is it located?
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Well Well Well... I understand that you are new to this thread as I am and try to get help from people. Just a bit of advice, you might need as least to read the sticky on this thread before giving out any questions
To answer your question, you might need to go to Start->Setting->System->Device Information, then you will see basic information on your device
remember dutty
svcglobal said:
There is no such thing of FM or AM radios in this PDA phone...
That radio is a ROM extension that manages the cellular/wifi/bluetooth radio frequency emissions and audio.
Please read the WIKI in full...
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ah ah ah remember... dutty being the god that he is has gotten an FM radio to work (sorta) and we can download that cab but we need a wired headset to use the FM radio and personally i can't see spending $400 on a phone if you are unwilling to shell out a few more bucks to get a bt headset so i don't have the wired headset to use the FM radio
ithehappy said:
Please clear this thing....i can't understand.
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I mean If you are talking about the Phone Radio You won't "find it."
However others have brought up a good point, if you mean FM radio. You won't find one either. It doesn't work.

Changing the ROM of my kaiser...steps to success

Hi, first of all I tell you I'm new in this forum. Afterward I tell you that before posting this thread I read the different FAQs and guides posted hera and I search for my following question but I didn,t find any answer.
I want to change my original ROM that came with my phone but I have few things I want to know before beginning the process. These are:
1- Any ROM will work with my phone? I brought my phone from US and it was unblocked, so I can use it with any SIM from any company here, in Argentina.
The problem is that in the page where all the ROMs are described I don't find my ROM version. My ROM version is 1.82.707.0 WWE and the Radio Version is 1.27.15.32. The protocol version is 22.51.88.13W and the ROM date is 11/03/07. In the Model No it says "Kaiser". The most aproximate version I found in that page is 1.81.707.0 and the Radio associated with it is 1.27.12.11. What I want is to change my ROM to beging using WM6.1 cause the version of my WM is 6.0, but I don't know if I chose any of the ROM that are available or I have to take care of something I don't know.
2- Suposing I can chose any ROM available, is it convenient to use it with the radio that is associated with it or I have to continue using my radio version (1.27.15.32)?
3- If I change the ROM following all the steps that are described in other FAQs or threads, the phone will continue unblocked in order to be useable with any company or it will be blocked for a certain one, for example AT&T? Remember I am in Argentina.
4- How can I do to backup my current ROM and Radio so, if I have any problem I could restore it to my phone? It is supposed that if I do so (restoring the original ROM) the phone will operate as it's doing now, insn't it?
Well, that all for now.
Thanks a lot.
Guido.
My dear friend all the questions you ask have been asked many times and answered many times. I have a hard time believing when you say you have read everything .. because your post makes it obvious you haven't. Nonetheless i'll answer these questions here for you:
guido_7701 said:
1- Any ROM will work with my phone? I brought my phone from US and it was unblocked, so I can use it with any SIM from any company here, in Argentina.
The problem is that in the page where all the ROMs are described I don't find my ROM version. My ROM version is 1.82.707.0 WWE and the Radio Version is 1.27.15.32. The protocol version is 22.51.88.13W and the ROM date is 11/03/07. In the Model No it says "Kaiser". The most aproximate version I found in that page is 1.81.707.0 and the Radio associated with it is 1.27.12.11. What I want is to change my ROM to beging using WM6.1 cause the version of my WM is 6.0, but I don't know if I chose any of the ROM that are available or I have to take care of something I don't know.
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Yes "any kaiser rom" will work with your phone. But first you need to get Hardspl than you can flash any rom that is available here to your phone. Looks like you have a wm6 rom and wm6 radio. When you upgrade to wm6.1 you will need a wm6.1 radio. Most roms come with radios so you don't need to worry about this. If a rom doesn't have a radio the cook will specify that and most will often suggest which radios work best with their rom. To see a list of different radios available please check link in my sig for Alltheway's thread on radios.
guido_7701 said:
2- Suposing I can chose any ROM available, is it convenient to use it with the radio that is associated with it or I have to continue using my radio version (1.27.15.32)?
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i already answered this in my above answer. But to reiterate wm6 rom will work with a wm6 radio i.e what you already have; a wm6.1 rom WILL NEED a wm6.1 radio so it won't work with your current radio.
guido_7701 said:
3- If I change the ROM following all the steps that are described in other FAQs or threads, the phone will continue unblocked in order to be useable with any company or it will be blocked for a certain one, for example AT&T? Remember I am in Argentina.
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flashing a rom in no way changes the unlocked status of your phone.
guido_7701 said:
4- How can I do to backup my current ROM and Radio so, if I have any problem I could restore it to my phone? It is supposed that if I do so (restoring the original ROM) the phone will operate as it's doing now, insn't it?
Well, that all for now.
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umm okay you don't wana do this yourself as i don't think so you know how to. Most of the stock kaiser roms are available in the wiki and have links to download them. In the even that you want to return your phone back to its original rom you can download from kaiser wiki.
Secondly please do extensive reading... your post shows that you really haven't done your homework. A kaiser is a expensive piece of equipment and you definitely don't want to mess it up just because you were lazy and didn't want to first understand exactly what you were doing.
Having said that i wish you good luck and happy flashing.
Thesire...first of all I really appreciate your quick answers tomy questions. I have to confess I didn't think to get an answer so quickly.
Anyway, I have to tell you that I didn't write anywhere I had read "everything" as you say. Of course I didn't, all the time in the universe life would be enough to do it. But you can be sure I followed all the instructions that are posted to do before posting a new thread, and those include reading the FAQ of ROM Developing, seeing the charming video of "what to do before posting a new thread", search my questions, and I tell you I spent all the last thursday looking for any answer to my questions, but I didn,t find them. I am not saying that they are not, of course they may be, but I didn't find them. Perhaps, of course, it's almost sure is because I didn't know how to search. But I did it. I read about the different SPLs that I have to download, the different version of them I have to try if I have for ie. the blank display, etc.
Another thing, when you say that always I can have the posibility to restore my original ROM downloading it, I told that in the thread that appears all the ROMs my actual version is not there. So, I wonder where my ROM is comming from and who cooked it.
At last, but not for that less important, I want to really thank you for your and for the time you spent answering my questions. Just remember I'm a newbie and perhaps, someday I'll be answering a question from you in this theme or another, ie. communications!!! Also remember that for us, the people who don't have the english as our natural languaje, sometimes reading the posts can be a little difficult and can be reading something that is answering our question and don't actually realize it or don't understand it at all.
Thanks.
Guido.
Guido Welcome aboard....follow the advice just givem and you will have a great experience here
Read this thread , and if you have any questions , post them in there as well, there is some great people that will help you out if you get stuck..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835
Closing Thread.

Any HTC Stock 6.1 ROMs in nbh form without radio out there?

Been trying to get used to flashing from SD card but can't seem to find a Stock ROM that is suitable. They all seem to come as exe files. I found a good list of reconstructed 6.0 ROMs but can't find any 6.1 ones.
Does this mean everyone flashes to Stock via USB first? Or am I missing something ?
I would like to know this too!
I pulled the nbh from the exe on at&ts website but when I tried flashing from my sd card it only changed my spl and radio back to stock but not the rom.
try to unrar .exe file with winrar
Take this, Shipped 6.1 ROm, no Radio, no SPL
http://www.4shared.com/file/105398668/839af0c2/HTC_WWE_61_Shipped.html
Open and get the RUU file to your SDCard
Pisca said:
Take this, Shipped 6.1 ROm, no Radio, no SPL
http://www.4shared.com/file/105398668/839af0c2/HTC_WWE_61_Shipped.html
Open and get the RUU file to your SDCard
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Thanks. Look like what I was after. Will give it a try next time .
I think almost all cooks have their own stripped 6.1 ROMs. I have one in my thread, and I think zelendel posted one in TPC's thread.
I posted these before.. but here it is again.
Below is the same is the one linked on the other post above. I just named it with correct version number.
Kaiser HTC ASIA HK WWE 3 34 721 2 no radio
RUU Kaiser CINGULAR WWE 3 57 502 2 no radio
f1ip said:
I posted these before.. but here it is again.
Below is the same is the one linked on the other post above. I just named it with correct version number.
Kaiser HTC ASIA HK WWE 3 34 721 2 no radio
RUU Kaiser CINGULAR WWE 3 57 502 2 no radio
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Thanks for those . Any particular difference between the two versions? Is the Cingular one onlt for AT&T maybe? I have a UK Orange Tytnii.
Just thought maybe I shouldn't be keeping recommended radio when I reflash ROM? Is it best to reflash original radio first too or doesn't it make any difference?
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I think almost all cooks have their own stripped 6.1 ROMs. I have one in my thread, and I think zelendel posted one in TPC's thread.
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Damned if I can see anything in your ROM thread or in TPC's lol. I've also tried every search term I can think of.
All I can think is people who bother to do the recommeneded flashing back to stock must be using usb.
Anyways I have a couple now so next time here goes .........
Thank you.
Restorer said:
Damned if I can see anything in your ROM thread or in TPC's lol. I've also tried every search term I can think of.
All I can think is people who bother to do the recommeneded flashing back to stock must be using usb.
Anyways I have a couple now so next time here goes .........
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Seriously! You must be joking right?
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Seriously! You must be joking right?
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Exactly what i was thinking especially as all info needed on first page of threadz to be honest would be better if people didn't get answered who are far too lazy to read and then impolite in the same thread. "that's how i read it anyway"
I know things will never change just airing my point of view.
Please peeps find the answers, post new threads when you have run out of possibilitys & feel that sense of achievement when you have worked out your own issue
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Seriously! You must be joking right?
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No I'm not. Maybe I am going blind but all I see is your link to the AT&T stripped rom but I'm looking for HTC - as I said I've got a UK Orange TytnII which from what I've read says it should be flashed with HTC stock. Or maybe you are saying it doesn't matter which stock rom? And there is definitely no mention of stripped rom on TCP's page - I know that by heart now lol.
Anyway I have 2 now so I will have a go next time. Thanks again.
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Exactly what i was thinking especially as all info needed on first page of threadz to be honest would be better if people didn't get answered who are far too lazy to read and then impolite in the same thread. "that's how i read it anyway"
I know things will never change just airing my point of view.
Please peeps find the answers, post new threads when you have run out of possibilitys & feel that sense of achievement when you have worked out your own issue
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How dare you jump in here with that attack. I really object to this. Where have I been impolite? Have you read my OP?
For the record I not only read the instructions. I devour them! Then I learnt them parrot fashion before I began. I have been a lurker round here for years but only started flashing last week. And for the last several weeks I have been trawling through literally thousands of posts to be sure of getting it right.
Now please show me on those instruction pages where it tells you how you can find a stock HTC ROM without radio that can be flashed from an SD card!
ai6908 kindly referred me to his page where there is only a link to a stripped AT&T stock rom and to TCP's page where there is no mention either. I was also asking if it was necessary to reflash the same radio every time as none of the instructions mention if you have the radio you need already. Still not had an answer on this so maybe it's just a stupid question - just wish I knew the answer lol.
Thankfully more helpful souls than you have provided me with the file I need. Thanks again F1ip and Pisca.
Some of you people on here can be arrogant so and so's. I belong to many forums and have never come across anything like it. Look at all the space you wasted flaming me and now me having to defend myself! No wonder the kids on here post the way they do if this is the example they get set by senior members. I would wager well over half the posts on this forum are pointless flaming. And just ask yourself how many questions are really new and have not already been answered by someone somewhere here. And look how much space would have been saved if you hadn't butted in here on your high horse without reading my question properly .
Rant over.
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No I'm not. Maybe I am going blind but all I see is your link to the AT&T stripped rom but I'm looking for HTC - as I said I've got a UK Orange TytnII which from what I've read says it should be flashed with HTC stock. Or maybe you are saying it doesn't matter which stock rom? And there is definitely no mention of stripped rom on TCP's page - I know that by heart now lol.
Anyway I have 2 now so I will have a go next time. Thanks again.
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Stock ROM is the same, it doesnt matter much for it being HTC or AT&T. Base ROM is the same on both of them.
Actually in my opinion, you dont even need to flash to stock ROM. I never flash stock ROM when I flash, and I flash about 10 times a day sometimes.
Sometimes occational hard reset might help. So in my opinion, just flash to any ROM, and do a hard reset after flash and when it prompts for screen alignment. That should solve all your flash issues.
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Stock ROM is the same, it doesnt matter much for it being HTC or AT&T. Base ROM is the same on both of them.
Actually in my opinion, you dont even need to flash to stock ROM. I never flash stock ROM when I flash, and I flash about 10 times a day sometimes.
Sometimes occational hard reset might help. So in my opinion, just flash to any ROM, and do a hard reset after flash and when it prompts for screen alignment. That should solve all your flash issues.
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Interesting, thanks. Certainly would save time not having to go through the whole rigmarole every time. That's one of the main reasons I was asking about the cut-down roms. As least I wouldn't have to keep doing the radio as well. Now whether with my lack of experience I should be going against what the 6.5 chefs seem to all be advising ....... .
On the other hand I may never flash again since TCP's latest seems to tick all my boxes. But having summoned up the courage to get going in the first place and it opens up a whole new lease of life for your phone, you kinda get a bit hooked. So maybe when I find one where MotoHome runs fast and smooth on my old Kaiser ........
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How dare you jump in here with that attack. I really object to this. Where have I been impolite? Have you read my OP?
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Basically if you read your last post before mine sounds like you are saying you cannot find anything in the threadz you describe.... bada bing bada bong no need to get so deffensive ah and .exe's can be uncompressed so as to get the .nbh for future reference....
Sorry for my response maybe i'm just gettin fed up with where is? questions when it can be found easily i'm sure that if you had of PM'd anyone they would have provided the answer.
My non rant over "so not everything is dirrected @ single poster" my applogies.
Just glad you sorted and found the answer
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Basically if you read your last post before mine sounds like you are saying you cannot find anything in the threadz you describe.... bada bing bada bong no need to get so deffensive ah and .exe's can be uncompressed so as to get the .nbh for future reference....
Sorry for my response maybe i'm just gettin fed up with where is? questions when it can be found easily i'm sure that if you had of PM'd anyone they would have provided the answer.
My non rant over "so not everything is dirrected @ single poster" my applogies.
Just glad you sorted and found the answer
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Apologies accepted . As you might be abe able to tell, the flaming that goes on verywhere around here really gets to me and you certainly hit a nerve. I sometimes wonder if I've wandered onto some Fight Club site by mistake lol .
Yes I do know the exe files can be uncompressed but the radio is still in the nbh file - and one guy who tried using the nbz file on its own said it flashed the radio part ok but not the rom itself .
What I will do is delve a little more into what makes up the unzipped nbh file. Might be a good way to start getting into this kitchen stuff .

Radio's and HBOOT - Whats the point?

Hi All,
playing with custom ROM's and flashing and learning it all slowly.
See plenty of posts about different Radio versions and HBOOT's but cant really see anything explaining the point of them?
What would I gain by changing my radio version or hboot version?
Thanks
Hboot or more over "Bootloader".
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Glossary#Bootloader
Radio.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Glossary#Radio
Upgrading your radio may improve your mobiles signal, WiFi, and Bluetooth. Simply, your phone may be able to hold a more stable connection to towers by contacting them more often, WiFi may not drain as much power when in use, while also having a stronger reception. Each radio just contains minor improvements that the engineers at HTC have been able to tweak to ensure your device performs more efficiently.
Just upgraded my Radio to the latest version after reading that.
Doesn't sound like I'd gain much from a bootloader upgrade so not going to bother with that one
Cheers!
nnila said:
Just upgraded my Radio to the latest version after reading that.
Doesn't sound like I'd gain much from a bootloader upgrade so not going to bother with that one
Cheers!
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Good call, it's worth knowing that even though radio upgrades can be benefitical to signal reception and battery life (of cause they could also have exactly the opposite effect) if they go wrong they can brick your device!
So it's always worth checking the m5dsum for any files that you download once they're on your device just before you flash them to ensure that no file corruption has occurred during file transfers.
It's not worth upgrading HBOOT to the 2.xx.xxxx until the current customs ROMS are written to take specific advantage of it.
ben_pyett said:
It's not worth upgrading HBOOT to the 2.xx.xxxx until the current customs ROMS are written to take specific advantage of it.
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I have been thinking about this for awhile, I've got to do some research but I'm not sure but I've got a feeling the newer hboot may be sort of bonus for the more recent radios, I won't explain why because all the thoughts I have are hypothetical, but it has to do with the phone communicating to the radio. As I was actually able to "lock" my radio through a ROM the other night, which resulted in a lot of thinking on a solution to the problem ;-).
Problem was solved in the end, but I doubt anyone else will ever come across this problem.
zeekiz said:
OFF TOPICI have been thinking about this for awhile, I've got to do some research but I'm not sure but I've got a feeling the newer hboot may be sort of bonus for the more recent radios, I won't explain why because all the thoughts I have are hypothetical, but it has to do with the phone communicating to the radio. As I was actually able to "lock" my radio through a ROM the other night, which resulted in a lot of thinking on a solution to the problem ;-).
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OFF TOPIC response, Hmmm, very curious......
ben_pyett said:
OFF TOPIC response, Hmmm, very curious......
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I've got to do some testing .. which unfortunately is rather time consuming, so I'll probably be able to post some results and more information next week . Chances are though its a one off thing that will never happen again ;-).
Can you please also explain how to check the md5sum for any file / ROM ,etc ?
Sorry for the noob question ...
Thank you in advance !
ben_pyett said:
Good call, it's worth knowing that even though radio upgrades can be benefitical to signal reception and battery life (of cause they could also have exactly the opposite effect) if they go wrong they can brick your device!
So it's always worth checking the m5dsum for any files that you download once they're on your device just before you flash them to ensure that no file corruption has occurred during file transfers.
It's not worth upgrading HBOOT to the 2.xx.xxxx until the current customs ROMS are written to take specific advantage of it.
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Tapur007 said:
Can you please also explain how to check the md5sum for any file / ROM ,etc ?
Sorry for the noob question ...
Thank you in advance !
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Download a md5 checker or go into 4ext recovery, select option for md5 generator or something like that
First off, think how to help yourself google is our friend.
most free file manager apps (astro etc) on your device should show the m5dsum of files on the device under properties
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chill dude .. it's just that i m new to all this .. & since most of the ROM thread's don't allow posting for users with less than 10 posts ... these are the threads where i can clarify lil doubts I have , especially from lots of senior members here!
If google is the answer to all solutions , the OP could have also searched the same thing on google / xda-forums ...
Thank u for the answer anyways ...
ben_pyett said:
First off, think how to help yourself google is our friend.
most free file manager apps (astro etc) on your device should show the m5dsum of files on the device under properties
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chill dude .. it's just that i m new to all this .. & since most of the ROM thread's don't allow posting for users with less than 10 posts ... these are the threads where i can clarify lil doubts I have , especially from lots of senior members here!
If google is the answer to all solutions , the OP could have also searched the same thing on google / xda-forums ...
Thank u for the answer anyways ...
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The Op created a thread for a specific question that was answered by several people including me.
You high jacked the thread and asked off topic questions which I also answered to a point, where I felt that google search would assist you. I also provided you with answer to your final question so really no need for the chill line.
If you have any question no matter how trivial or small don't worry about opening a new thread in the Q/A section of this forum add that is what it is designed for, you then have every right to go in any direction and ask any Queston you need.
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Hi-jacked , Off Topic ?
I thought my question was in continuation to the discussion of flashing a hboot / radio .... especially after the precautions mentioned by you on checking md5.
ben_pyett said:
Good call, it's worth knowing that even though radio upgrades can be benefitical to signal reception and battery life (of cause they could also have exactly the opposite effect) if they go wrong they can brick your device!
So it's always worth checking the m5dsum for any files that you download once they're on your device just before you flash them to ensure that no file corruption has occurred during file transfers.
It's not worth upgrading HBOOT to the 2.xx.xxxx until the current customs ROMS are written to take specific advantage of it.
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Hi-jacked , Off Topic ?
I thought my question was in continuation to the discussion of flashing a hboot / radio .... especially after the precautions mentioned by you on checking md5.
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I was just saying sometimes think about helping yourself first
perhaps off topic was slightly off the mark, Peace (end of)
ben_pyett said:
I was just saying sometimes think about helping yourself first
perhaps off topic was slightly off the mark, Peace (end of)
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haha I love lmgtfy, its a really smooth way to reference how useful google is ;-).

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