Phone used in TV Show 24: Day 8, Episode 19 - General Topics

Chloe O'Brian was flipping through some scanned images on her phone. It looks like a Nexus One, but slightly different. What do you guys think?
I tried searching the web, but having '24' as one of the key searches lead to a lot of irrelevant search results.. :-(
I made some screen captures.. this was the scene where Chloe was by herself in on of CTU's conference rooms.. about mid-way through the episode.

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I am a long time viewer of 24
It certainly looks similar to a Nexus, perhaps one of the branded always nasty carrier modifications

Thanks for the welcome.. Sorry if this was my first post.. I just got excited when I saw the phone on 24.. :-D

That's the Sprint version of the HTC Hero

I guess you're correct.. thanks karnovaran!!
Just saw on the net.. it is indeed the Sprint Version of HTC Hero..

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Just like to say HELLO...XDA arrives tommorrow

So I have gone and bought an XDA of Ebay, its n O2 version, yet I am vodafone, so hopefully the unlock files work ok, found sone on this site, but still a little confused as to what name my o2 XDA 11i (ie. alpine etc..)
I know nothing about this phone, have owned Dell Axim 30 and Loox in the past, so know my way about a PPC, just not ever had a Phone version...
Hopefully this might replace my failing Mobile...
So I guess being new, means getting the drinks in...So am at the Virtual bar...what are you having ?
It is indeed the Alpine.
Welcome and have fun. I joined not so long since and found this site to be a fantastic resource.
Go here for an amazingly useful little plug-in: http://zendrui.free.fr/index.htm
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hello... have also problems with those 10 posts... got a problem but cant solve it because i cant post it in the right topic
Hello all
Hi , I'm from Spain, I'm here, trying to learn the handling of my Desire and English, jajajajajajaja, I write is very noticeable with google translator???
thank you for this wonderful site.
Ok...
I think you three who dug up this topic from 7 years ago should have a look at this site
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Dark lord me said:
Ok...
I think you three who dug up this topic from 7 years ago should have a look at this site
Look Here
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I'm amazed at some of the ways people try to get past the 10 post rule. I also laugh at those who furiously get mad about it. It's 10 posts...
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I'm amazed at some of the ways people try to get past the 10 post rule. I also laugh at those who furiously get mad about it. It's 10 posts...
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HTC Sidekick Twist

Hi...
This is my 1st post on this forum I need someone help me to find more infomation & photo... etc etc..
I have been look everywhere under google about HTC Sidekick Twist.. it's been rumor & leak info since May 16th.. and now, nothing new about more information, update & when release... none preview photo.. just none..
I hope, you guys have something more information about Sidekick Twist?... photo? etc.. Is it true that will make Sidekick Twist?
I love Sidekick since 2003.. I hope, it's come true that HTC will product new Sidekick Twist...
sorry my english..
thanks
Thanos
anybody thought?
not with htc lol with android yeah
Project Emerald
If you are using Google you probably know as much as I do. This is where I read about it goo(dot)gl/Qdri
But on t-mobile's twitter they have been giving clues to something new and exciting and I think it could be the twist or Samsung's galaxy s.
Clue's:
1.) Here’s your first clue. What do T-Mobile and the best-selling PC game of all time have in common? #T-MobileClue
2.) Have you figured it out yet? Clue #2. It’s super slim but full of muscle. #TMobileClue
3.) Have you guessed our big news? Clue #3 "Never miss your favorite TV shows or the score of the big game."
With a simple search we know that the best PC game is The Sims (TM) and their logo is an emerald goo(dot)gl/HeSI so this big news could be the sidekick twist. And it could even lauch as early as 6/21 or 6/28 goo(dot)gl/MYoE
But I really hope this thing comes out soon, I can't wait much longer.

Samsung Transform - Please Create Section

I have gotten a chance to play with the Samsung Transform.
Let me tell you it’s like a mini HTC EVO.
Once we get all the bloat ware off of it it’s going to be a great phone.
Great alternative if you don’t want an evo with the premium data plan.
I have a rooted EVO and i love it but i rarely use 4G.
I just got one today as well. Can we PLEASE get a Transform section?
I was really excited to get one of these (no $10/mo 4G charge) but I went to the Sprint store and used the demo. Choppy, choppy, choppy. It confused me so I looked into it and it turns out that - according to Sprint via Endgadget - the CPU lacks OpenGL acceleration. If this is true, it's either a grave oversight or an evil manipulation by Sprint/Samsung.
I look forward to seeing what can be done with this phone - it deserves its own section for sure - but first impressions are that this phone needs a lot of help.
I just got one today as well.
nick_danger said:
I was really excited to get one of these (no $10/mo 4G charge) but I went to the Sprint store and used the demo. Choppy, choppy, choppy. It confused me so I looked into it and it turns out that - according to Sprint via Endgadget - the CPU lacks OpenGL acceleration. If this is true, it's either a grave oversight or an evil manipulation by Sprint/Samsung.
I look forward to seeing what can be done with this phone - it deserves its own section for sure - but first impressions are that this phone needs a lot of help.
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The one I tried at the Sprint store was incredibly choppy as well. The Sanyo phone that just came out with Froyo ran a lot better in store. When I got my Samsung Moment I didn't use Sprint ID and it ran loads better than the one in the store. I also changed to Launcher Pro and now it's zippy.
bump cmon we need a section...
Yes please, so we can have developers talk about root!
This is a great device and a very nice upgrade from the hero. I forgot how much I missed having a physical keyboard. I also put on launcher pro and it seems very responsive. However, it could use some tweaks - for sure...
bump................
I will bump as well:
I have always relied on xda for my phone altering needs and I love this site... I just got a Transform which is missing 2 things in my opinion, android 2.2 (coming this year maybe?) and it's own section on xdadevelopers.
If any mods are reading this I am including my vote for a new section to be added for this phone.
Thank you!
Go to sdx-developers I'm sure they can help...not many transform owners or devs here since most people with sprint have an evo, epic, or hero
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I think we need a section for the transform also....
http://forum.sdx-developers.com/index.php#c24
Those guys have a Transform section. As a matter of fact most of what they do is Samsung phones.
Wait, wait, wait! Are the XDA-Developers going to let another site steal the limelight??? Noooooo! Come on, do it for ME! LOL I have used this site for over a year now with several different devices and can honestly say there is no better site or community. I also know that some of the devs are on more than one site, which is totally fine. Create the section so some of the sdx devs can post their work here as well.
I have an Evo and even that phone wasn't perfect to begin with. It was XDA-Developers who made it the glorious and sexy thing my Evo is today. The Transform suffers from bad development, and all it needs to be a great phone is the same thing - XDA-Developers! Let's get this device up to speed!
I'm getting my wife a Transform on Black Friday (free that day only at Radio Shack) and really want to be able to use xda for both our phones.
Come one, I'm begging you! Seriously! I'm on my knees typing this, tears streaming down my cheeks! The ones on my face, um, not the other ones. But I'll do that too if it'll get us a Transform section!
+1 we need a transform section. I have a G2, but my dad just got a Transform. I don't know if it's cause I'm used to the G2 monster but good hell this phone is SLOW and preloaded with so much garbage. Seems to me that theres not much in the department of rom's for Samsungs in general, I can't find any that I like on a Vibrant either.
Does anyone know of a working flashlight app for the transform?? When does it get the OTA? I read that it will get 2.2 last quarter of 2010 but that didn't happen. My dad is getting extremely mad at his phone, and it's issues that FroYo Fixed on my phone.
Yes We Do Need A Transform Section....
I Couldn't agree more that we need a transform section... I don't own one myself but I put my GF's Sister on my plan and got her a Transform. Now I know SDX already has a Transform section BUT There are quite a few people out there who don't know about SDX and I really thought XDA was trying to be all inclusive... Hell we got a Evo_Shift section like the day after the phone dropped so IDK if we are going to get a Transform section here, Also I know there are Issues that people who are willing to dedicate their time 2 keeping up with the forum (IE moderators) and honestly it seems like when the Mods start slacking the forum goes 2 crap, look 2 the Epic Forms and you'll see what I mean, But yeah I was really let down when I brought the Transform 2 my house and was getting ready to root it, ROM it up and Possibly get sum themes going, See where they were at with speeding it up and doing it big, yet I spent 5 min on XDA before I realized that I would be creating a SDX account, To this day I don't understand why the Transform is so overlooked, Maybe its because the Moment and Intercept were such fails... yet they both have sections here, Who Knows. I just thought I would throw in my .02 on this as I really don't get why the transform hasn't seen much love even tho it has loads of potential I guess In the mean time it will continue 2 be overlooked...
Please read the latest announcement. by our administrator, it addresses the part about getting a new section added.
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Great Tab

I'm not quite sure of the path of let me hear but this tablet works great. I have soft bricked I've had magic mismatch. And many times I've sat here wondering why I wasted 300 dollars on a useless, do nothing, piece of hammered whale crap. Needless to say I do not feel like that anymore. and it is all thanks to two developers... Robeet and Clemsin. 3 weeks ago when I first got this thing, All I could think of was Trying to get this g tab to do everything I wanted at supersonic speed. And I want it all now! I didn't wanna waste a lot of time so I thought why not just start at the top, and the top to me seem to be honeycomb 3.0. And since honeycomb was not available to us I thought the next best thing would be bottle of smoke. What a mistake that was! I didn't think I can make my crappy paper weight any worse, but now I felt like I had a crappy paper weight and no paper! I knew this not be the end because there's all kinds of people online enjoying their g tabs. I then thought to myself, I'm at xda forum. The brightest minds in the business are here, I'll just ask a question and my problems will be solved. So I posted my question Just knowing that I'll get help, And just like magic poof there was a reply. The devs username was something like ( goodintentions), and with me he had none. I thought an all together devastating online experience. But here I am a few days later, having the most incredible time, being able to even do more than I could with my laptop. I don't even have to touch my g tab anymore, I just speak and there I am, watching, listening, reading, and yes, even posting this!! So burn it into your brain. ( read everything) !! And most important donate to the developers because they don't get paid to help you, but if you think about it they already have. And I'm living proof with a great g tab.
Glad to hear you've had a change of heart after that "bos=bfd" kerfuffle.
what rom are you using now just wondering because i am ready to try something different.im on vegan tab rc1 currently
First of all, I'm the guy that created gtab for dummies website (look in my signature). There's a reason why people like myself recommend people AGAINST using the current honeycomb ports. For now, they are for testers only.
Secondly, you really should check out my website. The info there are not as cluttered.

[Q] mytouch 4g......

Hi all. I'm jumping over to this forum due to the fact my vibrant finally died on me : ( So I picked up the new mytouch, which brings me to the question....can I root and apply custom roms using the same methods as the slide...? I haven't seen anywhere about mods for this Ph I'm assuming cause its new. the new mytouch has potential and I definitely need to get rid of this horrible bloatware. Thanks in advance for any help.
you mean the htc glacier? despite the looks it's a totally different phone and you should head over to its specific forum...
or perhaps you meant the mytouch by lg... then you are out of luck afaik
Braccoz said:
you mean the htc glacier? despite the looks it's a totally different phone and you should head over to its specific forum...
or perhaps you meant the mytouch by lg... then you are out of luck afaik
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No I just picked up the lg mytouch 4g not the HTC glacier.
Here you go. :3
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Here you go. :3
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Thx. That's what I was doing wrong. I was leaving out the "lg." Wow.
Hi,
I'm a n00b. Sorry.
I'm buying my very first smartphone. I've had a nokia or samsung flipphone for the past 8 years...simple phones. just call, text etc etc...didn't even bother taking pictures, WHEN i could figure out HOW.
Anyway, so the phone is the T-MOBILE MYTOUCH 4G (WHITE) by LG.
This is the closest forum I could find...so mods/staff, PLEASE don't ban me or fine me for the questions here...
I see the above posts about rooting.
Well first I want to UNLOCK my phone so I can take it to Europe...blah blah blah. I realise that I will have to pay some stupid 10+$ fee to get the unlock code...I have til Tuesday to endlessly google on a way to do it free...before my phone arrives.
Ok, I don't know what a ROM is or what ROOTING does for me...but I assume it's good...can someone PLEASE HELP ME...and is rooting this mytouch 4g white phone by LG a good idea?
Thanks so much in advance!
Richard Rahl said:
Hi,
I'm a n00b. Sorry.
I'm buying my very first smartphone. I've had a nokia or samsung flipphone for the past 8 years...simple phones. just call, text etc etc...didn't even bother taking pictures, WHEN i could figure out HOW.
Anyway, so the phone is the T-MOBILE MYTOUCH 4G (WHITE) by LG.
This is the closest forum I could find...so mods/staff, PLEASE don't ban me or fine me for the questions here...
I see the above posts about rooting.
Well first I want to UNLOCK my phone so I can take it to Europe...blah blah blah. I realise that I will have to pay some stupid 10+$ fee to get the unlock code...I have til Tuesday to endlessly google on a way to do it free...before my phone arrives.
Ok, I don't know what a ROM is or what ROOTING does for me...but I assume it's good...can someone PLEASE HELP ME...and is rooting this mytouch 4g white phone by LG a good idea?
Thanks so much in advance!
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Your fine pal. We're here to help you. congratulations on your first smartphone being an Android!!!
Sent from my ICS Splashed using Tapatalk
Richard Rahl said:
Hi,
I'm a n00b. Sorry.
I'm buying my very first smartphone. I've had a nokia or samsung flipphone for the past 8 years...simple phones. just call, text etc etc...didn't even bother taking pictures, WHEN i could figure out HOW.
Anyway, so the phone is the T-MOBILE MYTOUCH 4G (WHITE) by LG.
This is the closest forum I could find...so mods/staff, PLEASE don't ban me or fine me for the questions here...
I see the above posts about rooting.
Well first I want to UNLOCK my phone so I can take it to Europe...blah blah blah. I realise that I will have to pay some stupid 10+$ fee to get the unlock code...I have til Tuesday to endlessly google on a way to do it free...before my phone arrives.
Ok, I don't know what a ROM is or what ROOTING does for me...but I assume it's good...can someone PLEASE HELP ME...and is rooting this mytouch 4g white phone by LG a good idea?
Thanks so much in advance!
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i'd suggest you don't mess with stuff you don't need/don't know... there's a lot of technical stuff to know and you not knowing basically anything but wanting to unlock root and flash is the perfect recipe for some regrettable actions.
just get an unlock code for about 10 bucks and you're all set...
Richard Rahl said:
Hi,
I'm a n00b. Sorry.
I'm buying my very first smartphone. I've had a nokia or samsung flipphone for the past 8 years...simple phones. just call, text etc etc...didn't even bother taking pictures, WHEN i could figure out HOW.
Anyway, so the phone is the T-MOBILE MYTOUCH 4G (WHITE) by LG.
This is the closest forum I could find...so mods/staff, PLEASE don't ban me or fine me for the questions here...
I see the above posts about rooting.
Well first I want to UNLOCK my phone so I can take it to Europe...blah blah blah. I realise that I will have to pay some stupid 10+$ fee to get the unlock code...I have til Tuesday to endlessly google on a way to do it free...before my phone arrives.
Ok, I don't know what a ROM is or what ROOTING does for me...but I assume it's good...can someone PLEASE HELP ME...and is rooting this mytouch 4g white phone by LG a good idea?
Thanks so much in advance!
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No devotional chant for you, "Lord Rahl."
Seriously, download this guide. Read it. Love it.
CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
Your fine pal. We're here to help you. congratulations on your first smartphone being an Android!!!
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Thank you
Braccoz said:
i'd suggest you don't mess with stuff you don't need/don't know... there's a lot of technical stuff to know and you not knowing basically anything but wanting to unlock root and flash is the perfect recipe for some regrettable actions.
just get an unlock code for about 10 bucks and you're all set...
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Thank you & I respect where you are coming from. I know I don't know anything about the Android world...I certainly didn't want an iPHONE as I don't like anything Apple...I'm a PC guy. I like to know what's going on when I'm working on a computer..NOT have it done for me Love the learning curve.
To further explain...I am assuming by rooting the phone I can upgrade the OS to the 4.0 Android system?...is that possible? From what I understand I'd only have the 2.2 that's already given...it's 2 point something IF I recall correctly.
IDEALLY, I'd have loved to have had a WebOS phone...but alas, HP farked it up and discontinued their products this past year...ah well.
So yes, still interested in rooting my phone to customise things
ALSO, since I'm getting this phone...I've read in many parts how people replace panels on the phone so they don't see the T-Mobile (for example) logo on the phone...etc etc...what do you folks suggest? What would be the best protection device for this phone? (I just found out a little while ago that UPS is delivering it 1 day early! Sometime today...so I should have it in my hands tonight when I get home from work...) I'm so excited!!
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No devotional chant for you, "Lord Rahl."
Seriously, download this guide. Read it. Love it.
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I love devotional chants Where's my Kahlan or Cara when I need one!!! hahaha
Will check out your links and reply tonight when I get home! Thanks buddy!
Richard Rahl said:
Thank you
Thank you & I respect where you are coming from. I know I don't know anything about the Android world...I certainly didn't want an iPHONE as I don't like anything Apple...I'm a PC guy. I like to know what's going on when I'm working on a computer..NOT have it done for me Love the learning curve.
To further explain...I am assuming by rooting the phone I can upgrade the OS to the 4.0 Android system?...is that possible? From what I understand I'd only have the 2.2 that's already given...it's 2 point something IF I recall correctly.
IDEALLY, I'd have loved to have had a WebOS phone...but alas, HP farked it up and discontinued their products this past year...ah well.
So yes, still interested in rooting my phone to customise things
ALSO, since I'm getting this phone...I've read in many parts how people replace panels on the phone so they don't see the T-Mobile (for example) logo on the phone...etc etc...what do you folks suggest? What would be the best protection device for this phone? (I just found out a little while ago that UPS is delivering it 1 day early! Sometime today...so I should have it in my hands tonight when I get home from work...) I'm so excited!!
I love devotional chants Where's my Kahlan or Cara when I need one!!! hahaha
Will check out your links and reply tonight when I get home! Thanks buddy!
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If you're looking for some high-performance ROMs, head over to RootzWiki and check out Undeadk9's work.
Sent via smoke signal.
As I come through the slyph for a quick breath of fresh air...I must report that I just finished reading the 25page manifest that you asked me to read/download...thanks for that. Was a good read.
NOW you mention ROM's...it was briefly touched upon in the PDF file...do I understand this to mean I need to use a ROM to customise the operating system?
Ok...let's do this step-by-step if you can bear with me PLEASE.
At some point I'm supposed to be getting my phone TODAY...it hasn't arrived yet, even though UPS says online that they did. After a few frustrating calls, it turns out the "loaner" driver cheated the system by saying he delivered it when he never did...
AFTER I get my phone, of course I need to get acclimated to it. Should I assume that I must UNLOCK it first by paying some 10$ fee online?...and THEN going on to ROOT the phone?
I just checked, and it turns out my phone is shipping with 2.2...these days I hear Ice Cream is the new flavour (4.0)...which is what I'd like it to get upgraded to..and from there start getting apps that I know I'll use...like an RSS feed app to find out WHEN something is available on the net...(as an example).
Look forward to hearing from you sir! Thanks again for being kind enough to respond and putting up with this n00b
Richard Rahl said:
As I come through the slyph for a quick breath of fresh air...I must report that I just finished reading the 25page manifest that you asked me to read/download...thanks for that. Was a good read.
NOW you mention ROM's...it was briefly touched upon in the PDF file...do I understand this to mean I need to use a ROM to customise the operating system?
Ok...let's do this step-by-step if you can bear with me PLEASE.
At some point I'm supposed to be getting my phone TODAY...it hasn't arrived yet, even though UPS says online that they did. After a few frustrating calls, it turns out the "loaner" driver cheated the system by saying he delivered it when he never did...
AFTER I get my phone, of course I need to get acclimated to it. Should I assume that I must UNLOCK it first by paying some 10$ fee online?...and THEN going on to ROOT the phone?
I just checked, and it turns out my phone is shipping with 2.2...these days I hear Ice Cream is the new flavour (4.0)...which is what I'd like it to get upgraded to..and from there start getting apps that I know I'll use...like an RSS feed app to find out WHEN something is available on the net...(as an example).
Look forward to hearing from you sir! Thanks again for being kind enough to respond and putting up with this n00b
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Alright now I would love to help you out sir.
Let us clarify that you are purchasing the mytouch 4G by LG, not the htc mytouch 4g slide. And not the htc mytouch 4g.
I do not believe there is a very extensive development happening for the lg phone because it is a new copycat of the original mt4g. (Correct me if I'm wrong)
While the specs are rather similar, the internal workings of the phone, firmware, kernel, roms... Are most likely written completely differently.
Do not expect to be able to use anything you find in these forums. Nor the mytouch 4g (glacier) forums.
Sorry I believe you don't have a choice but to pay for the unlock code they provide. I'm not even sure you will be able to root that phone without directions made directly for that phone. Nothing in the mt4gs forums will be compatible.
You've got a chance in the glacier forums but I recommend asking around before you start messing with your lg phone, or risk bricking the phone.
Even if you are getting the lg 4g slider, its not even using the 1.2 ghz dual core processor. The specs are still closer to the mt4g either way, not the mt4gs
Edit: sadly I do not expect your phone to get an ota update for android 4.0, for a very long time if ever. Hopefully you get some luck and a community of people with your device have accumulated somewhere so that some development starts happening for you to try out newer versions of android... But when that does happen, odds are that the roms for your phone will be unstable because of the small community inevitably not having enough developers. I recommend always using the stock rom, if you want to enjoy top of the line technology, get the mt4gs, or maybe a better phone that will definitely get an official cyanogen mod 9, or is sold stock with android 4.0.
All that being said. Your purchase was not bad, spec wise. But if you are looking for aftermarket technology to make the phone 5x better, trade for a different phone.
The beauty of having an android phone is that it is open source. With aftermarket roms, you can push any phone to its limits and get the most out of what you paid for.
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^ thank you for that. I'm not much into the (no offence) "geeky" side of all these ROMs and CUSTOMISATIONS...don't get me wrong...I'd love to get the most of this. I bought this phone, because it was cheap...that's the ONLY reason. I did NOT see a reason to pay hundreds upon hundreds for the current top-of-the-line phone. Just wanted a decent phone that did nice things for free or very close to it. I had been holding off for a very long time on getting a smartphone...this is my INTRO to your world. I signed a 2-year contract extension with T-Mobile.
IN the meantime, I shall be monitoring these pages and hopefully MOST of you beautiful geeks will scream "this phone is a must-have"...and THEN I'll shell out the bucks for a phone I could easily replace with what I have now.
I feel I want to spend money on a phone that will actually be GREAT for 2 years...ideally, that's when I feel personally I should upgrade to the next latest & greatest.
Yes this is the mytouch by LG...NOT the slide. It's got a black face, white back...3 "home" buttons on bottom.
MY misdelivered phone from yesterday thanks to a stupid UPS Driver, found its way into my hands this morning @ 6am while getting in my car...a great neighbour of mine knew when I left the house and walked my missing package over. So today of course I need to get jiggy with my phone and see how everything works, before I even think of UNLOCKING the phone
I shall keep you apprised and thanks again for the above information...it was VERY helpful...some of your words of course are "foreign" to me, so I'll keep asking these very "dumb" questions...i hope you all can put up with it for a bit. Til this evening after I finish my work -day...ciao.
^upon purchasing this phone I was almost as clueless as you. But the reason I chose mt4gs is that it is futureproof. 1.2 dual core processor will run android 4.0 beautifully.
Since I purchased the phone I've been on these forums checking up on things atleast once a day if not 5x a day just so I'm up to date on things. It kind of gets addicting when everyone is trying to contribute their 2 cents to make the phone the best that it could be
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leoilios said:
^upon purchasing this phone I was almost as clueless as you. But the reason I chose mt4gs is that it is futureproof. 1.2 dual core processor will run android 4.0 beautifully.
Since I purchased the phone I've been on these forums checking up on things atleast once a day if not 5x a day just so I'm up to date on things. It kind of gets addicting when everyone is trying to contribute their 2 cents to make the phone the best that it could be
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The op has a mytouch 4g from lg, not the slide.

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