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Navigon Mobile Navigator on Diamond 2

I thought a new thread would be useful because the other satnav threads are interspersed with different software solutions and I know quite a few people are anxious to get a working satnav solution on their Diamond 2.
I've dumped Tomtom for various reasons that I won't go into here so now I am trying new solutions and Navigon seem to be a real contender. If you have been looking into Navigon you will no doubt have stumbled upon the Touch HD thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446487 with the 3 hacked files to make it work on the Diamond 2's wvga screen.
I am working on the premise that the hacked files do not impinge on Navigon's profits and I am happy to use them until Navigon make an official wvga version. I am using the 30 day try before you buy version and intend to buy the full version if I am happy with the software.
I downloaded the trial software from their UK site and chose the ~400MB UK only maps. The software version that I was served up was 7.3.1 build 137 and, as expected, did not work at all on my D2. I assumed that the trial download would be the latest available and another thread stated that the latest was 7.3.2 and that only one hacked file was needed. I tried that single file and the program would not start. I didn't know what version I had at that point because the app wouldn't start. Therefore, I copied the three hacked files into the relevant places in the navigon folder and, hey presto, it worked.
It didn't find the in-built gps receiver straight away and I can't remember exactly what I did but I mucked about with the gps settings and had it working in a minute or two. It obtained a satellite lock indoors within about 30 seconds. Very impressive so far!
I installed the "Navigon Fresh" software on my PC and it immediately updated itself to a more recent version. It found my Navigon installation on the D2 when I connected it in diskdrive mode via USB. I tried to search for a more uptodate software version but whatever I did Fresh stated that I had an "invalid device definition" and wouldn't do anything. So I continued with the version I had.
The settings and preferences seem a bit convoluted compared to tomtom navigator, they seem a bit spread around rather than being all in one place. I guess you can soon get used to that. gps updates are quick, I would say at least two screen updates per second and navigation is easy to follow when in the car. I can't find a zoom function in 3D mode and I find the default a bit too zoomed-out i.e. it shows your route for about a mile in front of you - I'd prefer just a few hundred yards.
The screen is a bit stretched but not sop much that it is noticeable, the speed signs are oval rather than round but the whole of the screen is used up and it is all quite readable. The road names are a bit too small to read when driving but the directions and speed readout etc are all just fine. The voice navigation is excellent! The directions are very clear and precise for instance the lady says something like "in three hundred metres take the second exit on the roundabout onto Manchester Road." She sounds really quite human and not robot-like at all. One thing I don't like though is that it sometimes tells you turn left for a right turn off a roundabout.
I don't know about the full version but the trial version MUST have a working internet connection to start up so that it can check its validity. Therefore, no network connection = no navigation. This could be a real problem. All in all, so far, I am quite impressed with it.
Sorry for the rambling post but I hope this will be useful for someone who is looking for a D2 satnav solution.

gadgetgaz said:
I don't know about the full version but the trial version MUST have a working internet connection to start up so that it can check its validity. Therefore, no network connection = no navigation.
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The full version doesn't need an internet connection to navigate, once it is activated.

I've been using Navigon for a week. Good alternative to TomTom. The only thing I don't like is that perspective on 3D view is too low (no point in having the car icon in the middle of the screen, instead of having it at the bottom)

gadgetgaz said:
It didn't find the in-built gps receiver straight away and I can't remember exactly what I did but I mucked about with the gps settings and had it working in a minute or two. It obtained a satellite lock indoors within about 30 seconds. Very impressive so far!
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It's normal, right after installation, the GPS is not found but your offered the choice of configuring it manually or use the GPS Assistant. Just start the assistant, click no, no and okay and the GPS is there ...

MN|7 landscape
If you like to use landscape mode, you have to set 5 registry keys.
See details here

hkr said:
If you like to use landscape mode, you have to set 5 registry keys.
See details here
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The best gps soft for Diamond 2
NDrive 3D Navigation 100 % compatible with Touch HD\diamond2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=492800
or Igo

Hi
I tried to install the 3 xml files for Navigon on the D2
It is working fine in portrait but in lanscape
I rotate the phone so manilla is in landscape and then I start navigon from the start menu
and navigon stay in portrtait so the screen is cut
Did someone know how to solve this ?
Thx
Stdu00

stdu said:
Hi
I tried to install the 3 xml files for Navigon on the D2
It is working fine in portrait but in lanscape
I rotate the phone so manilla is in landscape and then I start navigon from the start menu
and navigon stay in portrtait so the screen is cut
Did someone know how to solve this ?
Thx
Stdu00
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Can't help you on this one, sorry.
But I'm amazed by everyone getting Navigon to run. Would you mind explaining step by step how you did and also what verison you're running? I tried 7.3.1 and I see the splash screen and then the program shuts down. Feel free to PM me if that's easier.

Can someone explain how to install igo to work on TD2? I have ver. 8, which is a year old, and it doesn't work.

stdu said:
Hi
I tried to install the 3 xml files for Navigon on the D2
It is working fine in portrait but in lanscape
I rotate the phone so manilla is in landscape and then I start navigon from the start menu
and navigon stay in portrtait so the screen is cut
Did someone know how to solve this ?
Thx
Stdu00
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how do u rotate? using Reg edits? try changescreen to rotate, MN7 will work fine in Landscape mode.
or if u dont want to use any additional programs to rotate, try launching MN7 from FileExplorer, not from startmenu..

hkr said:
If you like to use landscape mode, you have to set 5 registry keys.
See details here
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Its much more easier to use g-Config than to add those pesky registry settings.
However. Navigon rotates now on my device but it does not rescale correct....
so it does rotate the screen but then its just a 480 * 800 rotates so i see only 480 * 480....
This is not really what i want i want it to be like TomTom. TomTom flawlessly rotates the screen for me....
( but tt has a sound and a gps lag problem !!!! )

Hello,
for well0549 :
"( but tt has a sound and a gps lag problem !!!! )"
Ok for the sound problem but its not a lag problem for tt7 on diamond 2 its the screen refresh because the screen its 3.2 vga so may be the driver is not supported in this rom.?
@++++

MN|7 7.3.4 (buil 494) released
and supports now WVGA devices like Topaz and Blackstone ...
I've found only the Try & Buy Europe but I'm shure, others will follow ...
Downloadlink from Mobile2Day

Have also just downloaded and installed the try & buy version of Navigon 7. Only problem is that I can't see the maps on the screen. All installed to SD card. Downloaded the maps to go with it (Q2_2009 Europe) and placed them in the "Maps" folder in Navigon.
When I start the prog, get all the guff about it being a trial version and having 30 days to try it. It picks up 7 to 9 sat signals in no time at all and tells me exactly where I am. But the screen is totally white where a map should be.
Any idea where I am going wrong? This looks like being a great software packet and if I can get it going I will more than happily buy it.

[email protected] said:
Have also just downloaded and installed the try & buy version of Navigon 7. Only problem is that I can't see the maps on the screen. All installed to SD card. Downloaded the maps to go with it (Q2_2009 Europe) and placed them in the "Maps" folder in Navigon.
When I start the prog, get all the guff about it being a trial version and having 30 days to try it. It picks up 7 to 9 sat signals in no time at all and tells me exactly where I am. But the screen is totally white where a map should be.
Any idea where I am going wrong? This looks like being a great software packet and if I can get it going I will more than happily buy it.
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I think this can happen in case of missing MapDrawer.nfs file (or improper version). This file should be in the \map subdirectory.

OK..... don't seem to have that file. Without the map files themselves, that directory is empty.
Thanks nunein

[email protected] said:
OK..... don't seem to have that file. Without the map files themselves, that directory is empty.
Thanks nunein
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Beside of these files (and the map files) there should be 6 other files (*.nfs and *.psf) and the "Landmarks" directory incl. the file "Landmarks_EU.nfs".
So I guess something went wrong with the sw installation.

Once again, nunein, thanks very much for your help. Added the MapDrawer.nfs to the "Maps" directory and suddenly I can see the map. Used it this morning to get to work (I know the way really!!), and it was brilliant. Think I will have to splash out the 99€ for the activation.
Vielen vielen dank
Grüß aus Bielefeld

No problem at all, I'm happy that my hints were helpful in that case.

Hi i have managed to rotate my screen using reg edits and g-confic but i cant get proper landscape it only shows half the screen in landscape and half in portrait i am using the latest (i think ) 7 7.3.4 (build 494)

Better GPS Navigation Software

Hello xda-developers
I was wonder why there isn't a better GPS navigation software for Windows Mobile cellphones (more preferably a newer one like the HTC Touch Pro)?
There is Google Maps which is fantastic but it has two shortcomings:
1. Doesn't have any sort of voice guidance
2. Doesn't reroute when you get off your path.
I've also found Google Navigator but after installing the trial version I found it to be very buggy and hasn't been updated for a few months now. Also costs $60! For that cost I can just go ahead an buy a dedicated GPS for about $40 more.
So I ask: Is there anything better in the works? Possibly an open(!) source project? Or a better presented and cheaper solution?

the best navigation software aren't free.. but there are workarounds obviously
try tomtom, or igo i love them

or try nav4all... free until 2010 and turn by turn voice direction

Hm Navi4all didn't seem to want to get any GPS sats, also seemed slow.
Nav N Go (IGo?) seems to be a european only product?
Tomtom looks like it might be worth its salt though

IGo is not European only...there is a North America version.... I love IGo after being turned on to it by a friend of mine (who also helped me with my first flash ---- props to Kareem9NBA).... text to voice, easy interface.
Before that, I used INav which I loved.....

I personally love tomtom. and its free if you know where to find it.

I'd go for Igo. I am from Europe and it has really good data even in eastern european countries, but TomTom is really good too. I think you should compare these two and just use the one that's faster/better for you.
Remember, we have PHONES that have GPS and you can't expect them to work like a GPS-only device. It's the same with the camera - no camera-phone performs as well as a standard digital camera (not even mentioning SLRs) and no GPS enabled phone will ever work as well as a GPS-only device. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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I dunno....Garmin Mobile XT works pretty damn well on my fuze. My friend has a dedicated garmin and mine can do more than his can cause our phones have internet access.

And with the update to Garmin from their website, the POI database is just about never out of date - it includes a Google Search function to look up points of interest.

navigon ( http://www.navigon.com/site/de/de/products/navigation_software/windowsmobile_pda )
is excelent like tomtom - you have the possibility to check before you buy it (30 days)

+1 for Igo8 (from the company Nav N Go). European company, but when you use NavTeq's USA maps, works perfect.
Advantages are real TTS (Text to Speech) (i.e., speaks actual street names), 3D buildings in major cities, ability to add POI databases, logos show onscreen for POIs, etc.
A dedicated GPS does work a bit better. But how often do you have that in your pocket when you need it on the spur of the moment???

Depends on what works best for your phone really. Some programs will lag on one persons phone and then not lag at all on anothers....from what I've read around the forum anyway. I've tried a lot of GPS software and I can tell you that...
Garmin Mobile XT has a great UI and excellent maps. Very easy to use and works. Only problem is GPS lag (shows me about 200ft behind my actual position).
TomTom works great. I don't think the UI is anywhere nearly as nice as Garmin's or as user-friendly. But I hardly get any GPS lag using TomTom and if you can keep the maps updated then you should be just fine. This is what I use now.
I've tried IGO8 and Amigo. Amigo wouldn't find the built-in GPS on my phone but looked pretty nice. I didn't get a chance to test it out much because it wouldn't work, sadly....and I didn't feel like trying to make it work lol. IGO8 is great if you can get the right version. I think I had the EU version because I couldn't change KM/hr to M/hr and I was thoroughly annoyed by that. IGO8 did give a little lag, but not as bad as it was with Garmin. What turned me away from IGO was that damn KM/hr thing. I looked up how to fix it for a grand total of half an hour before I gave up and deleted it lol.
All that being said, I like TomTom. I would absolutely 100% delete TomTom and go with Garmin if I didn't experience the lag. It's just that annoying to me. But if you don't experience lag with Garmin I'd go with that.

another vote for igo
used tomtom on my wizard but I really like the UI on IGo on my serra, the custom skins that are available and the use of a sys.txt to set up a lot of preferences in the software. Lots of web resources out there for these things.
used EU and US mapping and found them both to be very good
you can add POI's in google earth kml format and the software converts them at start up - very handy but large numbers of POI's can course the software to have slow response times at start up

Does anyone use their GPS without a data connection ie: using stored maps? I tried to mess around with mgmaps for a few days but never got it to work.

eimerej77 said:
Does anyone use their GPS without a data connection ie: using stored maps? I tried to mess around with mgmaps for a few days but never got it to work.
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IGO will work without data connection (flight mode on). Obviously, you need to have the program AND maps on your phone. Tomtom will not do the same. Even though it does not need any data connection, it will not establish GPS connection in flight mode. It will work if you turn data or cell radio on, even if there is no connection available (i.e. another country). Not sure about other programs.
Hope that helps.
Mike

yeah perfect. I skipped the data plan (use the nodata cab), so I just use wifi when I can and was trying to find a way to get gps on the road, storing the maps on my micro sd card. I'll look in to it!

doctajay said:
I personally love tomtom. and its free if you know where to find it.
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yup... and yup

Where is TomTom free?
Hello,
Can anyone please let me know where I can find free TOMTOM Software/maps to download to my touchpro?
Thanks
Satish

Warez is not allowed on xda.

TomTom looks interesting however I don't think Navigator 7 has any USA maps (but their Navigator 6 does). Seems to be a product tailored more towards the European crowd

BEst GPS Navigation software (besides google)??

I often travel through some areas where I do not have phone coverage and so the Google navigation will not work for me.
What is the best GPS navigation software for android? I need something that saves maps locally.
Aslo, is there a way to save google maps to my SD card for trips where I may not have coverage?

Co-pilot.
Keeps maps on SD card.

Sygic i use on mine and tested it out the other day worked great other than no voice....and maps are installed on SD card

Henchman said:
Co-pilot.
Keeps maps on SD card.
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+1 no need for data connection

igo8 is best

I've been using Co-Pilot for months on my G1 and just installed it on my Nexus when that arrived. It's really easy to use, has a nice interface and seems to route very well.
I've used Sygic and iGo on other devices in the past and I think co-pilot is a nicer interface. It's also very cheap for what it is

can I install Garmin on Android Nexus

feeltch said:
can I install Garmin on Android Nexus
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No yet, they are still seeking for Android developers to move along.
http://www.androidguys.com/2009/11/28/garmin-seeking-android-developers/

3Shirts said:
I've been using Co-Pilot for months on my G1 and just installed it on my Nexus when that arrived. It's really easy to use, has a nice interface and seems to route very well.
I've used Sygic and iGo on other devices in the past and I think co-pilot is a nicer interface. It's also very cheap for what it is
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+1..........

iGo8 for N1
I have installed the iGo but the resolution doesnt fit.
the screen will not enlarg to full screen
any ideas?

does co-pilot work with australian maps?

im trying co-pilot and will give a comment about it... im living in malaysia...

Co Pilot has a version in market place with Aussie maps. I bought it, and it's worth the $60 I paid for it. I had been a long term tomtom on winmob user and find that co pilot does everything I used on tomtom.

guydor007 said:
I have installed the iGo but the resolution doesnt fit.
the screen will not enlarg to full screen
any ideas?
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To make it fit N1 res:
1. Download this file: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Q9D9CX9A
2. Unpack and adb push the following:
adb push sys.txt data/data/com.navngo.igo.javaclient/sys.txt
adb push data.gro data/data/com.navngo.igo.javaclient/data.gro
adb push FrutigerNextCom-Regular.ttf data/data/com.navngo.igo.javaclient/FrutigerNextCom-Regular.ttf
adb push FrutigerOTS.ttf data/data/com.navngo.igo.javaclient/FrutigerOTS.ttf
Now you should see it at the correct res. There's a known bug which is that you'll have to kill the process because you won't be able to close it from the app itself.
Hope it helped!

I have both Sygic an Copilot - aussie versions. Whilst Copilot has a nicer interface, I cannot say enough good things about Sygic. When I was on my HTC Magic, and installed Cyanogens first 1.6 rom, I emailed them for help because neither worked with GPS enabled (due to it not being a released OS yet). The Copilot response was 'Once it's released, we will support it' - or something to that effect (at least that's how th response felt to me). The Sygic developer contacted me straight away, and for the next 2 weeks he sent me update after update until it finally started working - and in the end had to install Cyanogens mod himself to do so.
That's what I call support! Also, I actually prefer the Sygic interface, it feels less cluttered, and more...whats the word? Intuitive. ie, where you expect an option to be, it seems to be. Copilot for all it's bells and whistles, I don't think of it as an intuitive program. Intuitive programming is a must on mobile devices given limited screen space, and Sygic hits it for me.
EDIT: Add to that, Sygic is faster

Which version to download for north America? There are 3 in the marketplace. 2 for Europe and 1 for Australia and new Zealand

Google Nexus One - Navigon/beta+CoPilot+Google Navigation/beta
CyanogenMod-5.0-beta4 + addons and highmem.
iPhone 3GS 32GB/white - Navigon/beta+TomTom+CoPilot+iGO+Sygic
lol get lost much?..jesus.....

rekrapg said:
I have both Sygic an Copilot - aussie versions. Whilst Copilot has a nicer interface, I cannot say enough good things about Sygic. When I was on my HTC Magic, and installed Cyanogens first 1.6 rom, I emailed them for help because neither worked with GPS enabled (due to it not being a released OS yet). The Copilot response was 'Once it's released, we will support it' - or something to that effect (at least that's how th response felt to me). The Sygic developer contacted me straight away, and for the next 2 weeks he sent me update after update until it finally started working - and in the end had to install Cyanogens mod himself to do so.
That's what I call support! Also, I actually prefer the Sygic interface, it feels less cluttered, and more...whats the word? Intuitive. ie, where you expect an option to be, it seems to be. Copilot for all it's bells and whistles, I don't think of it as an intuitive program. Intuitive programming is a must on mobile devices given limited screen space, and Sygic hits it for me.
EDIT: Add to that, Sygic is faster
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I have to add to this, not only is Sygic better in my opinion, but CoPilot has some awful disadvantages for me.
1. Does not follow one way restrictions on roads in my hometown (Baltimore, MD). Roads that have always been one way (for 100 years). Major confidence breaker.
2. When contacted about poor directions (citing one way restrictions not being followed), they stated it would take a few months to get an update sent out. YIKES!
That's really enough to be a deal breaker for me.
Sygic has never led me astray, even in foreign states where I am not familiar with the roads. I can't trust CoPilot to do so, as such I got a refund within my 24 hour period.

St.Jimmy! said:
To make it fit N1 res:
1. Download this file: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Q9D9CX9A
2. Unpack and adb push the following:
adb push sys.txt data/data/com.navngo.igo.javaclient/sys.txt
adb push data.gro data/data/com.navngo.igo.javaclient/data.gro
adb push FrutigerNextCom-Regular.ttf data/data/com.navngo.igo.javaclient/FrutigerNextCom-Regular.ttf
adb push FrutigerOTS.ttf data/data/com.navngo.igo.javaclient/FrutigerOTS.ttf
Now you should see it at the correct res. There's a known bug which is that you'll have to kill the process because you won't be able to close it from the app itself.
Hope it helped!
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Could you please tell me how was the experience of using iGO in android compare to Windows Mobile?
thanks

I use Copilot, which is rather good, considering its cost. Sometimes it seems to give slightly too late of a notification to turn on an exit, and sometimes it thinks that a one-way road is a two-way one, but overall it's good, if one adapts to its minor quirks. I haven't tried anything else (besides Google Maps and Google Earth), so I don't know whether it's the best, though.

[Q] GPS Software

good day
apologies if this has been posted before. i have a sprint touch pro 2 which i ordered from the u.s. (i'm based in australia). i've been trying to install tomtom 7 as well as the updated series. whenever i launch the cab the cursor just spins but the software doesn't get installed. anyone have this same issue?
in that, which gps software is best working for your units? garmin xt, papago, etc?
appreciate your inputs.
cheers
john

TomTom 7 has massive lag issues on the TP2, making it almost unusable for many. It also has no TTS. I use iGo8, which also works well but is a memory hog and the TTS can be flaky. I've tried a demo version of Navigon 7.4.0 Build 962 and it was definitely the best of the three: no lag at all, can navigate to google search results, and it's TTS is flawless. Eventually I might dump iGo and get Navigon.
Garmin Mobile XT apparently works well, but has no TTS.

rete said:
TomTom 7 has massive lag issues on the TP2, making it almost unusable for many. It also has no TTS. I use iGo8, which also works well but is a memory hog and the TTS can be flaky. I've tried a demo version of Navigon 7.4.0 Build 962 and it was definitely the best of the three: no lag at all, can navigate to google search results, and it's TTS is flawless. Eventually I might dump iGo and get Navigon.
Garmin Mobile XT apparently works well, but has no TTS.
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mate
your response is much appreciated, Thanks! i'll give navigon a go. on tomtom, i've tried just about everything including a hard boot but still the problem persists. i used to have a dopod advantage and tomtom 6 worked flawlessly. guess it's time to try out a different software.
cheers

I have garmin and I love it. I believe it has TTS. Doesn't that mean it tells u what street to turn on.

I greatly disagree with the first reply.. I use TomTom and it works flawlessly... I am using version 7.918.9193 VGA Black.. No problems installing it... none of that lag that is talked about... amd usually I am locked on withing 30 sec. I do have the updated GPS driver you can find on the site here.. But even before I installed that I had no lag issues and usualyl got a lock in a min or so.
I have also used 7.916 and it was simmilar. I have even used TomTom tech support when I was having problems when I wanted to renew my traffic sibscription (They doubled their price since I last paid and I wasn;t willing to pay the new price).. They were very friendly... even when I told them what version I was using. I think you might just have a bad download or something... I am using the Energy version listed below... I find that by FAR TomTom is the most reliable (never crashes).. It is one of the easiest to use... The screen format and voice guided directions work great.. You can even navigate to one of your contacts in your phonebook. I do reccemend making a TomTom Home account and downloading additional Point if Interest (for free).. But after you do that it is just as good if not better than most of the compitition..

I am trying to find where I can download Navigon MobileNavigator 7 North America. I have 2 Navigon GPS devices and LOVE them. I want this on my SPRINT HTC TOUCH PRO2.

Copilot live 8 usa

Does anyone on here use COPILOT LIVE 8 USA? I have some issues and I wonder if anyone else can add some comments as to how to resolve? I have sent these to COPILOT SUPPORT but no response yet.. I am hoping to get all of these resolved:
1. I am alerted that I am at my destination BEFORE I actually get there. It also doesn’t tell me LEFT or right or ahead is my destination. Can this be resolved?
2. I tested 2 addresses today with COPILOT and a GARMIN GPS. The Garmin was dead on while COPILOT was lost and had be going in circles. This was while I was in a development with a LOT of little side streets. Can this be fixed?
3. when you get to your destination, it doesn’t give you the option to CLEAR the route. It asks me what I want to do but if I close the BOX, since I don’t want to do any of that, it keeps the route I am on. I noticed this as I use COPILOT to get home. Then today, I turned on copilot and it still said it was running the route to my house. I couldn’t find any way to clear it except to delete next stop. Then it cleared the route. I also see no way to click CANCEL ROUTE if you decide you don’t want to navigate to where you set. My Garmin has an "X" that I can hit to cancel route.
4. Program is missing a LOT of POI's .. For instance, I was sitting in a parking lot of WAL-MART which has been there for many years. It didn’t know this Wal-Mart existed. It did know about other ones nearby but not this one. Same with TARGET, I was sitting in a target parking lot and it didn’t know target was there.
5. Routing is wrong on some trips.. Sometimes it will tell me to turn left when you can't or when LEFT is the completely wrong way to go. How to fix?
6. I entered in SPEED TRAP DATA but it NEVER alerts me to any of them. I said YES to the fact I was importing SPEED TRAP data but it never did anything.. MEANWHILE, my Garmin did alert me.
7. It would be nice if I could pull addresses out of my EVO 4G address book so I don’t have to re-type them in and also if you could do voice entry of the data Like GOOGLE and SPRINT navigation already do.
8. It appears the maps are SEVERAL YEARS out of date. How do I get updated maps?
9. If I want to select a POI to travel to... I select the category, then pick my POI or type in the name.. Lets say WALMART. Then I find the walmart but then decide that wasn’t what I wanted. I then hit my back arrow on my phone and select a different category or maybe just type in a different name of a POI. When I then search for the new one, it brings me to the orig category and POI and NOT the new one. I have to completely back out back the main screen of copilot and then start over with finding a POI. I have to do this every time..
I hope someone can help resolve these issues... Thanks...

1. CoPilot alerts you with an audible alert slightly before the exact destination. I don't know why. But there is no fix for it, as I doubt they consider it a problem. CoPilot does not tell you that the destination is on the left or right. If you look closely on the map though for the destination flag, it will be drawn on the left or right side of the road. You can tell from that.
2. Read the review in the Android Market and Apple App Store for ALK's products in the US. ALK' maps are notoriously bad and out of date. They try and do their maps in-house instead of buying them from Navteq or TeleAtlas. As a result, customers suffer, but you also pay less.
3. ALK has known about this issue for a LONG time. I personally have sent the issue to them a year ago. The only way to cancel the route is to select the "remove next waypoint" option, or something to that effect, don't recall the exact name.
4. Same issue as the maps. They are bad. Try using the Google Search instead of the POI search within the app.
5. Buy a different app. The maps are bad, these are the repercussions of that.
6. Traffic camera alert functionality works. I have used it in the past. Don't say what you did wrong, but that function does work.
7. Don't hold your breath.
8. You don't. The maps are what they are. You can submit errors and they will correct them within 45 days supposedly. But when you are starting with maps as bad as they are, you'd be submitting problems every time you use the product.
9. Can't help you with that one.
dahauss said:
Does anyone on here use COPILOT LIVE 8 USA? I have some issues and I wonder if anyone else can add some comments as to how to resolve? I have sent these to COPILOT SUPPORT but no response yet.. I am hoping to get all of these resolved:
1. I am alerted that I am at my destination BEFORE I actually get there. It also doesn’t tell me LEFT or right or ahead is my destination. Can this be resolved?
2. I tested 2 addresses today with COPILOT and a GARMIN GPS. The Garmin was dead on while COPILOT was lost and had be going in circles. This was while I was in a development with a LOT of little side streets. Can this be fixed?
3. when you get to your destination, it doesn’t give you the option to CLEAR the route. It asks me what I want to do but if I close the BOX, since I don’t want to do any of that, it keeps the route I am on. I noticed this as I use COPILOT to get home. Then today, I turned on copilot and it still said it was running the route to my house. I couldn’t find any way to clear it except to delete next stop. Then it cleared the route. I also see no way to click CANCEL ROUTE if you decide you don’t want to navigate to where you set. My Garmin has an "X" that I can hit to cancel route.
4. Program is missing a LOT of POI's .. For instance, I was sitting in a parking lot of WAL-MART which has been there for many years. It didn’t know this Wal-Mart existed. It did know about other ones nearby but not this one. Same with TARGET, I was sitting in a target parking lot and it didn’t know target was there.
5. Routing is wrong on some trips.. Sometimes it will tell me to turn left when you can't or when LEFT is the completely wrong way to go. How to fix?
6. I entered in SPEED TRAP DATA but it NEVER alerts me to any of them. I said YES to the fact I was importing SPEED TRAP data but it never did anything.. MEANWHILE, my Garmin did alert me.
7. It would be nice if I could pull addresses out of my EVO 4G address book so I don’t have to re-type them in and also if you could do voice entry of the data Like GOOGLE and SPRINT navigation already do.
8. It appears the maps are SEVERAL YEARS out of date. How do I get updated maps?
9. If I want to select a POI to travel to... I select the category, then pick my POI or type in the name.. Lets say WALMART. Then I find the walmart but then decide that wasn’t what I wanted. I then hit my back arrow on my phone and select a different category or maybe just type in a different name of a POI. When I then search for the new one, it brings me to the orig category and POI and NOT the new one. I have to completely back out back the main screen of copilot and then start over with finding a POI. I have to do this every time..
I hope someone can help resolve these issues... Thanks...
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Thanks. Is there any app like copilot live usa that works? I love the features of copilot over google and sprint navigation. actually it would be nice if I could find and app similar to copilot and my garmin rolled into one.
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What about the navigon app?
edit- apparently navigon is also bad. is there any good paid navigation app?
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I wouldn't say that Navigon is bad. It is just very v1.0 as far as features goes. Biggest issue is that there is no app2sd. It is Navteq data so it is as good as it gets from that perspective. They have yet to announce a map update policy either.
dahauss said:
What about the navigon app?
edit- apparently navigon is also bad. is there any good paid navigation app?
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Does it work in USA? I dont see USA maps talked abut on their site..

Yes, Navigon has a US app.

tried Navigon and it stinks. WHILE the maps and routing is better and traffic seems to be included, its missing a lot of things that copilot does.. the POI icons on navigon and the map as so small you cant read anything while driving. AND in 3D mode, there are NO STREET NAMES. You also can not see a list of directions so you do not know what route is is taking you on. It DOES have some nice features though, but NOT at $61.00 .. My issue now, is trying to get a refund since it took almost 2 hours to download maps which is more then the 15 minute time limit. In fact, once I tested the program for 10 minutes driving I decided COPILOT, even with some of its flaws is better ... M probably have to call credit card company to get refund...
is there ANY program that is worthy of buying for a navigation program? or do I stick to my old garmin?

Your main options are Google Navigation, CoPilot, Navigon or Sprint Navigation. I've used them all. I also have a Garmin 885t and a TomTom 740 Live. I've owned about 6 other devices over the years. I can tell you that Google Navigation is my primary GPS at this point. I like it a lot. I miss nothing from my Garmin. I only miss the ability to detour specific segments of the route from TomTom. I miss nothing from Sprint Navigation. I deleted Navigon. It took way too much room and didn't have app2sd. I have CoPilot installed as a backup should I not have a connection to use Google Navigation. I will remove it and reinstall Navigon if it ever gets app2sd.

im rooted so I was able to put NAVIGON on the SD card. I just dont like some things, which I mentioned. Im actually trying another program that has a 7 day trial and is free from the market for the trial. Its called AURA. it says it uses the latest TOM TOM MAPS.. I ASSUME they are up to date. it also has traffic and other stuff.. Looks good on the web sites BUT I havent tested it yet as I am downloading some of the maps. this program also supports APP2SD without the trick I did for navigon..

so I am playing with AURA but It appears it doesnt speak street names.. thats a deal breaker... I have a support request in to see if it actually does this. I hope it does. it is one heck of a nice program... IM using the USA version
EDIT: Looks like it doesnt speak street names.. I have a support question to ask about this. This program would be AWESOME if it did. its got the NEWEST TOM TOM MAPS and it does almost everything I want. the NON SPEAKING STREET NAMES is a DEAL BREAKER.. I hope they answer my question and fix that issue...