Taskbar question - HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps

I'm currently using Brain's TaskBar edition v5a. Is there a way to display the time in the taskbar or do I need a different program?
Thanks.

depending on what version of WinMo you're running, gives you different options. The COM versions that have the start at the bottom let you have both time and battery. The other versions let you have one or the other and you can switch by going to Settings>Clocks and Alarms>More>Display the clock on the title bar in all programs (though there is a cab that will let you display both in the same amount of space, though this makes it very small).

Svegetto said:
depending on what version of WinMo you're running, gives you different options. The COM versions that have the start at the bottom let you have both time and battery. The other versions let you have one or the other and you can switch by going to Settings>Clocks and Alarms>More>Display the clock on the title bar in all programs (though there is a cab that will let you display both in the same amount of space, though this makes it very small).
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I'm using WM 6.5 because my start button is located on the top left corner.
I got the time to show by following your instruction. But my battery meter was replace by the time display. How do I fix that?

simeezee said:
I'm using WM 6.5 because my start button is located on the top left corner.
I got the time to show by following your instruction. But my battery meter was replace by the time display. How do I fix that?
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Well that's exactly what I said would happen.
As I said before, I do believe there's a cab out there that will fit both time and battery in the same space, but it will be small. Just do a search.

Svegetto said:
Well that's exactly what I said would happen.
As I said before, I do believe there's a cab out there that will fit both time and battery in the same space, but it will be small. Just do a search.
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Thanks for pointing in the right direction. I installed BattClock, it doesn't work perfectly well with the taskbar I'm using. But it gets the job done

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Relocate Lower taskbar/system tray WM2005??

Is it possible to relocate the lower taskbar where the bluetooth/running program icons sit??
I want to move it down into the softkey position as i have found a program to disable this from this site:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=27331&highlight=16
From Buzzdev.net it seems that the lower taskbar is in fact HHTaskbar and on searching the registry for this please see image below.
I think it must be controlled by a registry setting no?? any ideas?
Registry seems to point to /windows/shell32.exe
anybody able to look into this file?? maybe something in there, something must instruct the taskbar to appear at that exact location so hopefully it can be moved?!
Images below show my screen current and my screen when taskbar activated
Thank you for taking time to read this.
Darren_Bridgeland: there is another program out to hide the tray, but I forget what it's called. I'll be releasing an update of VJToggleToday as soon as I can finish off a few things on it. Hopefully be working on it this weekend... but I say that every week
This is an issue you guys need to think about though:
- hiding the tray is fine, but consider that when we do need access to the Tray, which occassionally we do, would you like it as an overlay as you have it now, or revert all of the changes made by VJToggleTodayWM5, which will optionally be:
- toggle tray
- shrink start bar (top)
- shrink soft buttons (bottom)
- expand Today screen
I future version of VJToggleToday will do some more funky stuff with the Tray, but for now, we need to consider - should I hide the tray/unhide and revert all changes, or hide/overlay similar to the current "feature" in the old WM2003 version you're using.
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Thank you for answering so quickly vijay555 I was just looking at your personal website, great work your doing there
I absolutely love the clean look your togglenew program has given my device but unfortunately I agree that the system tray is needed.
All im hoping for is a way to relocate the tray into the old 'new menu' position at the bottom underneath Ilauncher in my screenshot. I can then reduce pocketbreeze size and away i go lol
Is this possible?
But if I mush the tray down to where the soft keys would be, what about the sofkeys?
Relocate the tray above the soft keys?
VJToggleToday works on relatively simple ideas, but the permuations are the pain of it - if I shrink the Start bar, I have to account for it in the Today screen, the soft buttons and the Tray. If I hide the tray, I have to account for it likewise. However, if I don't hide the tray? If I don't shrink the SoftButtons? Und so weiter.
VJToggleToday is going to need a config dialog I think. And a clear head to program stuff like tray toggling. The basic code is done though, I hope. I haven't looked at it for a while - so busy on VJCandela cross compatibility and something else - old, but new, coming soon :wink:
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If you look at my screenshots I currently have my screen full, Ilauncher is sitting right at the bottom where the softkeys WOULD BE. Im asking for the tray to be INSTEAD of the softkeys (so to be EXACT the tray needs to be located 26pixels lower than its usual postion). Then I can reduce pocketbreeze by 26 pixels.
At the moment the tray cuts right through Ilauncher as Ilauncher is sitting in the tray & softkey position.
Is this clearer??
I understand that Darren.
In my WM5 screenshot, I've minimised the soft keys to 2 pixels rather then remove them completely, on the basis that you might still want to tap on them with the stylus (I do this with my Magician's start bar (top), which is minimised to 2 pixels and then overlayed with a 24 pixel PhoneAlarm skin
However, if you KNOW you will not need this, ie only use the hard keys to access the softmenu, then I can make it an option to entirely remove the softkeys (however - the SIP icon overlay still seems to enjoy popping up. I'll investigate that later).
I'm intending to make it optional to configure the size of the softkeys and start menu, from 26 pix to 0. Maybe make it bigger then 26 pix for VGA screens? That might be cool.
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That would be a good feature to be able to configure the menu's size. So just out of interest the togglenew program, does that disable the softkeys or shrink them? Ive remade my wallpaper to be 26 pixels large and nothing appears clickable, I assumed it completely disabled them (think im getting confused lol)
Trouble is even if you disable/shrink softkeys how will you move the system tray to the bottom of the screen??
It cant be via another program as people will want to butt programs up to the tray, so you'll need to find the code that currently locates it and alter the code perminantly no??
You're using the old VJToggleToday which is Wm2003. That's hardcoded to hide the New menu on Wm2003, and by accident the soft keys on Wm5. But for the Wm5 it's more sophisticated internally (hence then new WM2003 version as well, which will be more foolproof).
The new version will permit resizing of the soft keys, and I guess the start menu (for those who use start bar replacements).
Moving the Tray is no problem. On my WM2003 I used to use it like this:
VJHideStart
To permit hiding it, but bringing it back optionally. Future versions of VJToggleTodayWM5 will (hopefully) have similar options.
It cant be via another program as people will want to butt programs up to the tray
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That's all part of the difficulties involved in writing it. There are lots of contingencies to take into account.
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wow how did you move the tray?? was it hard/easy?
could i manage it??
Sure you could manage it, but through code. PM me if you want to discuss.
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You're using the old VJToggleToday which is Wm2003. That's hardcoded to hide the New menu on Wm2003, and by accident the soft keys on Wm5. But for the Wm5 it's more sophisticated internally (hence then new WM2003 version as well, which will be more foolproof).
The new version will permit resizing of the soft keys, and I guess the start menu (for those who use start bar replacements).
Moving the Tray is no problem. On my WM2003 I used to use it like this:
VJHideStart
To permit hiding it, but bringing it back optionally. Future versions of VJToggleTodayWM5 will (hopefully) have similar options.
It cant be via another program as people will want to butt programs up to the tray
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That's all part of the difficulties involved in writing it. There are lots of contingencies to take into account.
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Is there any way to have the latest beta version of VJToggleTodayWM5 ? Thanks in advance.
Not really jolas: if it was ready to release, I'd release it, but I've been too tied up to work on it for a while. I'll try to have a look at this and a couple of other apps this weekend... I'm also releasing a couple of other new-ish things this weekend, so busy busy
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Thanks for your reply vijay555. Please, try to release this app, it will be very usefull for me and a lot of other people.
Hope this weekend it a positive and productive one for you Vijay and cant wait to see the results :wink:
Hope to recieve a PM about the coding, but will understand if your trying to sort the program instead.
Take Care
Any news about VJToggleTodayWM5 ???
its next on vijay's priority list, hes just finished a couple of other programs. Hopefully we'll start seeing some progress over the next week or 2
Thanks Darren. See you're posting from Buzzdev!
Yes, as I've been saying for a while, my developments tend to dovetail together. I finally got a chance to do some work on VJFullscreenTSC this weekend, which I hope finally works properly. It's had minimal testing but it worked fine on my VGA universal.
But from there I learnt a couple of lessons I needed to bring back to VJToggleToday. It strikes me that this app should not be too hard to finish now. That's no promise - I've had some very concerning news recently about Vijay555.1, my little baby who is on his way. So as I'm sure you'll all understand, family priorities
But certainly, next on my plate is VJToggleToday, finally. And research has given way to a couple of new ideas that should also help a few left handed chaps out. But one app at a time...
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ooh I hope vijay 555.1 is ok. Ive just had a little boy 3 days ago so good luck with that.
My 2 year old was a very traumatic pregnancy and first 15months of life so I wish you all the best
Many thanks Darren. News could be better on Vijay555.1, but it could be worse. All the best to your little one! Now the real hard work begins. I must be the only guy looking forward to having an excuse to be up at night, with nothing to do but program and look at the kid..
I'm only managing an hour or two coding on weekdays, and that's slow progress, barely one app to look at per night.
Yesterday was VJFullscreenTSC again (check out the new screenshots), but VJToggleToday is certainly next. I'm resisting VJTrayLaunch, which I also have some ideas for...
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Please give us a beta!!!
Is any beta of VJToggleTodayWM5 ready to be releasead? Please, give us something test!

Customizing X7510 "Big" HTC Home

I have been looking for some tools for customizing HTC Home, which comes from Athena X7510 official ROM. You can find it in some cooked roms for X7500/x7501 as well, but this "big" version of Home plugin was first introduced in X7510, I think.
Well known HHC could be used for this, but there is no proper grafic files for this version of Home plugin. The files should be of proper size, as we are talking about VGA and biger version then the one from other phones.
I have prepared one small set of files for myself and am posting them here, so others can use them. Maybe others could do the same so we could bulild a set of graffics to be able to change our HTC HP.
The background is based on Poorlyduck's Background (thanks to Poorlyduck) and the clock is made out of Segoa Bold Gray Shaded delivered with HHC (thanks to emunutz).
I have attached my screen and grafics which can be used in HHC or copied directly to the folder where your HTC Home is installed (by default in Windows folder).
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All of you who can contribute with their work, please feel free and join here.
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Attached Files contain HTC Dimond clock described in my post #6.
Does this mean if I copy and paste the files you provided I could make it look exactly as the screen shot? To which folder exactly? Is it as easy as selecting it off the today screen settings?
How did you show the time and Main Memory at the top bar together?
What is HHC?
Is there a way to change the color to all black?
How come you also have TABS on the top part? Is that part of the files you provided? How can I have those TABS?
Are you using Real VGA? If YES, will your files work with Real VGA at 96 dpi or do we have to use it at 196 dpi?
Sorry for the numerous questions...
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Does this mean if I copy and paste the files you provided I could make it look exactly as the screen shot? To which folder exactly? Is it as easy as selecting it off the today screen settings?
How did you show the time and Main Memory at the top bar together?
What is HHC?
Is there a way to change the color to all black?
How come you also have TABS on the top part? Is that part of the files you provided? How can I have those TABS?
Are you using Real VGA? If YES, will your files work with Real VGA at 96 dpi or do we have to use it at 196 dpi?
Sorry for the numerous questions...
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My screen is build with some special soft which I use in all my phones.
On top bar i use WKTask, gprs connection monitor and pBar.
The last one is showing time and memory in right top corner. It's main perpouse is more or les the same as WKTask but I like them both. WKTask is bestin closing apps but pBar gives you some other things like showing time and memory.
HTC Home is standard Today plugin. It does not give you those upper tabs. I use UltimateLounch (UL) for it. You can build tabs with normal icons/links to apps on your Athena, but also you can use Today plugins as tabs or combunation of Today plugins and sections with normal icons. The best is that you can use gestures to change from one tab to the other and it can show you a cube efect switching to the oter tab.
Hope this helps.
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All of this should work in realvga. I did not test it in this Athena, but the same config have used in my old x7500 with realvga 128dpi and it was fine. Now have decided that I prefer finger touch then density, so did not install realvga on my new x7510.
HHC is HTC Home Customizer by emunutz.
Thank you for clarifying everything. I'm going to check out Ultimate Launcher.
I also found pBar 1.5. Is this the version you are using?
cktlcmd said:
Thank you for clarifying everything. I'm going to check out Ultimate Launcher.
I also found pBar 1.5. Is this the version you are using?
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That's it.
HTC Dimond style clock
I have resized HTC Dimond clock made originaly by Ipaso.
It looks nice on HTC (black) them and Poorlyduck's backround. HTC theme was moded a little. As always I use UL as main organizer of my screen.
All files are for portrait and landscape.
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I have updated my attached file in my post #1. HTC Dimond by Ipaso is now fixed to solve the problem of small "0" in landscape and 12 hours type clock. Bug found by robjhellis (thanks).
where can i get the new home screen? i dont want to flash to spl 3.5 im still on 1.2 can anyone post the cab of the new htc home screen?
cjmedina said:
where can i get the new home screen? i dont want to flash to spl 3.5 im still on 1.2 can anyone post the cab of the new htc home screen?
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You can google for emunutz web page of his HTC Home Customizer. I think he provides installers of HTC Home plugin.
Color Icons for BIG HTC Home
I have been running AP4 since it was released and am very pleased with the great work done by the AP team. However, I was looking to add a bit of color to the HTC home and I have created a set of icons to do so.
If you like....please enjoy.
looks very good!
many compliments
and...thank you
Customizing "Big" HTC Home
Some time ago, I have opened a thread for customizing "Big" HTC Home plugin for Athena. The thread is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2506158&postcount=1.
It would be nice if people could have all efforts for this subject in one place.
BTW, nice done.
can you make the clock look like diamond's, thanks
Tadeusz said:
Some time ago, I have opened a thread for customizing "Big" HTC Home plugin for Athena. The thread is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2506158&postcount=1.
It would be nice if people could have all efforts for this subject in one place.
BTW, nice done.
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Done Thanks for the suggestion
Tadeusz said:
I have resized HTC Dimond clock made originaly by Ipaso.
It looks nice on HTC (black) them and Poorlyduck's backround. HTC theme was moded a little. As always I use UL as main organizer of my screen.
All files are for portrait and landscape.
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Tadeuz, I've copied your Diamond Diamond Clock on to my 7510 and in landscape the first digit is about half ther siz of the other three. In portrait they are all tye same size. Any thoughts on why this might have happened?
Also, any chance to give us a run down on the settings for Ultimate Launcher to get the top selection bar. Just cannot work it out.
Very many thanks.
robjhellis said:
Tadeuz, I've copied your Diamond Diamond Clock on to my 7510 and in landscape the first digit is about half ther siz of the other three. In portrait they are all tye same size. Any thoughts on why this might have happened?
Also, any chance to give us a run down on the settings for Ultimate Launcher to get the top selection bar. Just cannot work it out.
Very many thanks.
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I have no idea, what happened. You mean all digits on first place are smaller then the other 3 places, no matter what the actuall digit is at the momment?
If so then it means there is some problem with HTC Home Plugin. Are you sure, you are using the same version of Home Plugin as mine. Are you on X7510 or the older Advantage? If so then you could have some older "small" version of Home plugin.
Try to compare your screen with mine. In landscape you should have the clock on left side and messages infro on right side, not under the clock, as it is in other versions of Home plugin.
Talking about UL, there is good source of info at this place: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2134341&postcount=1
I could give you mine setup file but I use a lot of specific icons and links, as well as some today plugins, which you could not have on your device. I have noticed that UL could hang up if you load a setup file with links to non-existing apps or today plugins. This would mean a hard reset if you do not have some special recovery software on your device and some additional knowledge, how to get out of such situation.
before you start to fiedle with UL config make a backup of working config (UltimateLounch.ini file). In case you get stucked, you can go into recovery state and return to this working config. Of cource backed-up file should by on your device, not on your PC.
Generaly, before you start to add a today plugin to UL config, you have to deactivate it in Today setup, so it is inactive. Then you can add it to some tab in UL setup.
In may case, my Today screen have only two active plugins, UL and callendar (as this is not working in UL). The rest plugins I have on particular tabs in UL. You also can set one tab as a default one, so it is always shown when the system starts.
You can use icons taken from the app, or you can prepare or use special icons for each app link (when preparing tab for app links).
Hope this helps.
Tadeusz you have given me a lot to digest. Much of it will need to wait until the weekend as the week is going to be busy at work. Thank you for your input.
Re the 1st digit. I can now report that it is only the zero that is the small size. When the 1st digit changes to a one then everything is of uniform size. I am running in 12 hour mode whereas I see your image is showing a 24 hour version. I'm, therefore, seeing the zero more often than you would see. Of course I never see a two in 1st place using the 12 hour clock. Other than that the clock and message set up is the same as yours. My device is the x7510 and I have applied auswims' color icons (post #9). Thanks for any further thoughts you may have.
I've attached a screenprint showing the small zero.
robjhellis said:
Tadeusz you have given me a lot to digest. Much of it will need to wait until the weekend as the week is going to be busy at work. Thank you for your input.
Re the 1st digit. I can now report that it is only the zero that is the small size. When the 1st digit changes to a one then everything is of uniform size. I am running in 12 hour mode whereas I see your image is showing a 24 hour version. I'm, therefore, seeing the zero more often than you would see. Of course I never see a two in 1st place using the 12 hour clock. Other than that the clock and message set up is the same as yours. My device is the x7510 and I have applied auswims' color icons (post #9). Thanks for any further thoughts you may have.
I've attached a screenprint showing the small zero.
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So here we are. I've found it, thanks to your report. Tomorow evning I'll upload fixed package. My computer needs some work now, so can't do anything before I'll fix it.
Looking forward to that. Have a great day!
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Looking forward to that. Have a great day!
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It should be fixed now.
Applied the fix - now looking good. Thanks a bunch

Lets see some today screens

Heres mine after removing the horrid ATT one and browsing the Diamond forums for some options (theme, flipping clockclock, etc) Also added ariel battery in the upper corner to see battery percentage.
hspda
how did you get hsdpa on ur phone? I know this is totally off topic
yzf750 said:
Heres mine after removing the horrid ATT one and browsing the Diamond forums for some options (theme, flipping clockclock, etc) Also added ariel battery in the upper corner to see battery percentage.
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another off topic question.... by installing Ariel Battery, does it just replace the current battery meter or did you have to switch off the origional batter meter (if so, how do u switch it off?).
thanks dude
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how did you get hsdpa on ur phone? I know this is totally off topic
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There is a registry setting you can use. I'm not sure of the exact details. Try searching around.
Or, you can flash romeos where it is already enabled.
yzf750 said:
Heres mine after removing the horrid ATT one and browsing the Diamond forums for some options (theme, flipping clockclock, etc) Also added ariel battery in the upper corner to see battery percentage.
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Hi,
Could you be most specific on what you used? I like the tf3d buttons. Lots of stuff out there and I have yet to run into it.
Thanks
Edit: Simply Black!
venom037 said:
another off topic question.... by installing Ariel Battery, does it just replace the current battery meter or did you have to switch off the origional batter meter (if so, how do u switch it off?).
thanks dude
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It will go over the original battery meter. Use the arrows in Ariels options to move it over there. Colors are also changable. Put the ariel battery exe in your /windows/startup on the fuze, This way it starts up automaticly each time.
Advanced config (sticky) found in the Diamond forum has the option to enable the H icon also.
yzf750 said:
It will go over the original battery meter. Use the arrows in Ariels options to move it over there. Colors are also changable. Put the ariel battery exe in your /windows/startup on the fuze, This way it starts up automaticly each time.
Advanced config (sticky) found in the Diamond forum has the option to enable the H icon also.
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thanks dude, ur a star... back to ur origional post as it seems it totally went off topic... I use the stock ROM and don't use the TF3D as it drains battery. In theory its great but my peeve is that in the TF3D, I cannot see multiple calander entries. What I mean is I use SPB Diary and I can see my appointmets up to 31 days in advance and that is more useful to me... therefore I use the standard WM screen but installed SPB Time, Diary, and Phone Suite.
thanks
Today Screen Question
2 questions on the OP
1. are you getting major slow down on the black theme? I've put 2 diferent ones on my fuze and it takes 5 or 6 seconds for the people to come up on the tab, programs and others are almost as slow. Standard ATT grey is kind of ugly, but it's super fast, everything comes up immediately in tf3d
2. (probably make myself look dumb) what are you using to show your screen and get a picture? Are you literally taking a picture and cropping, or is there a tool of some sort to do this?
Thanks
cparkhorn said:
2 questions on the OP
1. are you getting major slow down on the black theme? I've put 2 diferent ones on my fuze and it takes 5 or 6 seconds for the people to come up on the tab, programs and others are almost as slow. Standard ATT grey is kind of ugly, but it's super fast, everything comes up immediately in tf3d
2. (probably make myself look dumb) what are you using to show your screen and get a picture? Are you literally taking a picture and cropping, or is there a tool of some sort to do this?
Thanks
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After running all the well know perfomance tweaks off the forums here I really dont notice too much slowdown over the att theme. I notice maybe a 1 second delay on the touch flo screen from the time the tab is picked and let go until it loads the content of the screen. I can live with that.
Lots of freeware screen capture programs that do the basic job ok, I just stuck Screen Capture v1.1 off some ppc freeware site to snap it. I dont really need a fancy program for that It puts a bmp or jpg in your "documents" folder on the ppc then.

			
				
cparkhorn said:
2 questions on the OP
1. are you getting major slow down on the black theme? I've put 2 diferent ones on my fuze and it takes 5 or 6 seconds for the people to come up on the tab, programs and others are almost as slow. Standard ATT grey is kind of ugly, but it's super fast, everything comes up immediately in tf3d
2. (probably make myself look dumb) what are you using to show your screen and get a picture? Are you literally taking a picture and cropping, or is there a tool of some sort to do this?
Thanks
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1. I'm using one of the black themes and it only takes about 2-3 seconds for the people to come up. (A second or two slower than AT&T but not too bad.)
2. Try My Mobiler at www.mymobiler.com
My Touch Pro HomeScreen Vista Mobile
Hope you Guys like it I Add to it Everyday I also have a mini Bluetooth Mouse To Control Everything....
wow...cool!
How did you get that Vista them like that, a particular program?
nucentury08 said:
Hope you Guys like it I Add to it Everyday I also have a mini Bluetooth Mouse To Control Everything....
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i would really love for my screen to look like the blkue theme you have going. looks great! wold you share?
Still using ATT Theme, with tweaks
I tried using full theme from diamond threads, but they make my tf3d crawl, even with every tweak I've found. I found some threads that make it easy to change things, like add clock - icons - and then get rid of top and bottom curtains. Just used old fashioned today theme .tsk black to change top and bottom bar, and added wallpaper in tf3d settings, although right now that picture doesn't carry over to the other tabs, mun has a program to do that but it kills my clock to all zeros all the time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2877234#post2877234
chrome clock and icons
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436301
tools to alter screen without using full theme change (be careful on fuze background in every tab kills my clock)
Here is my current
Vista ui
Thresher said:
How did you get that Vista them like that, a particular program?
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I just use The new Wisbar Dektop 2.2 And a Vga Wad pak And A Lot Of Time.lol
asadkhan1988 said:
i would really love for my screen to look like the blkue theme you have going. looks great! wold you share?
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I just use The new Wisbar Dektop 2.2 And a Vga Wad pak And A Lot Of Time.lol

Porting Bottom Start button from WM6.5 to WM 6.1

Hello, guys!
You all are professionals and know almost everything about different versions of WM. I have one very important question: is there at least minimal possibility to port somehow this WM 6.5.5 feature - bottom start button to the old WM 6.1 firmwares?
Thank you very much in advance and sorry if this question is a foolish one
It's sort-of possible but would take a little work. Why not just use a 6.5 rom instead?
I think the greater challenge would be resizing the top bar (smaller) and the bottom bar (larger).
Thanks for the answer!
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It's sort-of possible but would take a little work.
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I even can't imagine how it could be implemented... Don't you know if there already was some work for achieving it?
littld said:
Why not just use a 6.5 rom instead?
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Because it seems more slow to me. Official WM6.1 is very fast and simple as I see, faster than 6.5. I've tried a lot of 6.5 builds. But what I really miss in WM6.1 - is this bottom start button. If it be there - it would be the best firmware for all people like me, who like simplicity and usability instead of these huge slow animations and pictures.
littld said:
I think the greater challenge would be resizing the top bar (smaller) and the bottom bar (larger).
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Yeah, it's useful too. Would be nice if somebody experienced considered this interesting and made some investigation...
it's easy to erase the Start menu link from the top bar. you can just overwrite the WindowProc and replace/enhance the WM_PAINT method and here you go.
It's no problem to launch the start menu. But changing the bottom bar is a *****! You could just overwrite the paint method as well. But this is not the full truth. The problem here is that every window got it's own bottom bar. So first you'd have to go through list of all windows/processes, retrieve it's menu bar and from there finally replace the window proc. Then you need to watch out and terminate your window proc if the application closes. And of course you also need to know if a new program is starting up. A nice-to-have feature of this solution would be that you can explicitely tell what happens when you hit the X button (hide or close) and don't need another hack for it.
Thanks a lot for your explanation, RAMMANN. It's very clear.
I can't do it by myself due to lack of experience. Well, the thing left is to wait if somebody experienced wants the same
Well it's a project that probably involves A LOT OF soft resets during development. I was originally planning to make the WM 6.5.x bottom bar look like PHOTON (the WM 7 that got abandoned) but when I figured out it's not THAT easy I postponed the idea for the time being, and will rather start with a smaller project (enhancing bottom bar of WM 6.5 start menu). But I reckon this might still be a very interesting project! hmmmm
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Well it's a project that probably involves A LOT OF soft resets during development. I was originally planning to make the WM 6.5.x bottom bar look like PHOTON (the WM 7 that got abandoned) but when I figured out it's not THAT easy I postponed the idea for the time being, and will rather start with a smaller project (enhancing bottom bar of WM 6.5 start menu). But I reckon this might still be a very interesting project! hmmmm
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Haha - that's exactly what I'd been doing years ago. I abandoned it as well, probably for the same reasons.
I think a decent compromise would be to set the Start menu in your left bottom bar on the Today screen (pretty easy to do, just registry change) and use a button assignment for other programs. If you install one of the start menu replacements (Green software) you can overwrite the start icon with something blank.
RAMMANN is right - a lot of work to repaint all those application windows!
littld, thanks for your answer too.
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set the Start menu in your left bottom bar on the Today screen (pretty easy to do, just registry change) and use a button assignment for other programs.
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Could you please give some links to these tweaks? Thanks in advance!
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Haha - that's exactly what I'd been doing years ago. I abandoned it as well, probably for the same reasons.
RAMMANN is right - a lot of work to repaint all those application windows!
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Well I didn't give up yet. I didn't even start dev for it. I just coded few lines to print something like "Hey your bottom bar is hacked!" in the Manila and start menu bottom bars. This is a very interesting project and has potential to allow a lot of things like Photon style or even an Android style bottom bar and I mean not only a standalone app like Androkkid but a full system replacement. I'm still looking around for an efficient way to realize this project and first things first so I'll be doing a start menu enhancement to warm up
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littld, thanks for your answer too.
Could you please give some links to these tweaks? Thanks in advance!
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I don't have the links but you can search. You want an app called VJKeypress - one of the keypresses will launch the start menu for you. Make a shortcut (.lnk file) for it. Search for how to change the left softkey text and program (somewhere in registry) to the new VJ link.
Thanks for your answers, guys.
RAMMANN, when you have some progress on this project, please, update this thread. I think people would appreciate it.
Thanks again!
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it's easy to erase the Start menu link from the top bar. you can just overwrite the WindowProc and replace/enhance the WM_PAINT method and here you go.
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I know this is an old post i dug up here, but i was wondering how i would go about earasing the start menu link from the top? i'm using 6.5 and i want to totaly dissable the top start soft key. thank you

[MOD] Manila Sliders

Hey Guys and Gals...
Just been messing with the sliders and settled on a grey bar across the top of the slider back ground..
I have a small problem with the alignment on the slider icons.
From what I can tell.. There are two bar icons one that is always present and one that appears as you scroll and changes to the tab that you are selecting.
The The top most is the one that changes as you slid across the bar. This one seems a little larger than the permanently visible.
Does any one know the manila files or a method to change so they are the same size or move the topmost down a couple of pixels.
Thanks
Neville
What did you use to change it? If your using HD Wall then I would say not that I know of since it does all the work for you. If you are using Mode9 or CFC_GUI then you can just edit the picture in photoshop.
I used manila editor to extract the PNG of the slider and changed that...
I'm ok with that part Hence the small grey line above the home icon...
I'm looking for a source that will tell how to change the slider foreground or background icons.
Any Idea?
Thanks
I´m not sure that i understand it right.
But you can use HDwall to create a slider. Put the images in HDwall convert and than you find the manila files in the HDwall programm folder. These you can copy to your Windows folder on your Device.
HDwall: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=503511
Hope that is what you want.
Star... Thanks for bearing with me whilst my brain caught up with my hands....
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Star... Thanks for bearing with me whilst my brain caught up with my hands....
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I like what you're doing with the slider mate. It's always bugged me the way it is, and what you're doing looks really subtle. Are you planning on cabbing up the manila files when you're done?
johncmolyneux - I may be asking you to cab it
I've replaced the slider with the line above the icon. I – like you – hate the way the slider sits above the tabbar. However I’ve found that making the slider transparent shows that the two icons don’t sit over each other. This has always been a peeve for transparent slider frames.
So I’m now trying to find the foregrounds Icon and turn those transparent, so that it only looks as though there is one icon.
Whilst I’m there I was thinking of making the back ground icons transparent, so that you would only have current tab icon showing, one step at a time...
Thanks for the interest.. here is the slider if you want to try
Not zipped, just rename and remove the ".zip"
Neville
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It's a simple alignment issue. I found the same issue when I made my sliders. I just use photo shop to make the current tab icon a bit bigger an move it ever so slightly over so that it full covers the lower icon. It's not hard just set the two images over one another in a layer to make sure it will cover it properly before uploading back into manila form.
Neville.Holland said:
Hey Guys and Gals...
Just been messing with the sliders and settled on a grey bar across the top of the slider back ground..
I have a small problem with the alignment on the slider icons.
From what I can tell.. There are two bar icons one that is always present and one that appears as you scroll and changes to the tab that you are selecting.
The The top most is the one that changes as you slid across the bar. This one seems a little larger than the permanently visible.
Does any one know the manila files or a method to change so they are the same size or move the topmost down a couple of pixels.
Thanks
Neville
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Please can I have Kelly's phone number?
How do you know it's not just a link to Kelly's web cam?!!!!
Wil Badger said:
It's a simple alignment issue. I found the same issue when I made my sliders. I just use photo shop to make the current tab icon a bit bigger an move it ever so slightly over so that it full covers the lower icon. It's not hard just set the two images over one another in a layer to make sure it will cover it properly before uploading back into manila form.
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Do you have any information, like what files sit where (foreground / background)?
thewahlrus said:
Please can I have Kelly's phone number?
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Not sure! I'll have to ask her?
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Do you have any information, like what files sit where (foreground / background)?
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If your looking for a list of the manila names and exactly what they do I can't help you there. Depending on the ROM you could have 3 to 4 files that are associated with each tab. The slightly larger one is the foreground image while on the tab. The others are the static,highlighted,and tab selection on the settings page for tab order.
You can go through and change each one at a time till you figure it out or you can wait till somebody responds with the list you are looking for which I don't think will happen. Sorry........
I thought that may have been the case - Thanks anyway - Wanted to do something like this for an ages... will have to mark what the files do when I find them. I'm sure I saw a Wiki page but can't find it at the moment...
Managed to reduce the height on the selector of level one and two.
I know there is a list that will tell you what each manila goes to ie Home,MMS,Email,etc but it will not tell you what it does in relation to the tab as far as foreground,selected,static,etc...
KNows you where that is?

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