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Windows Mobile + 3G + Fuze = Suck it iPhone

I was at family member's house the other day, and my nephew came up and showed me his new mp3 player (iRiver). He was really excited about it, though his Dad couldn't get it to sync with the computer, dumb drivers are included in Vista. He tried to get the drivers but they are on dial-up, yes I told him it wasn't 1993 anymore.
In order to get the drivers, iRiver makes you download their music manager program which is about 9MB's. You can all do the math on this one.
So what do I do? Take the same usb cable that plugs into the mp3 player, plug it into my Fuze and pick the "Internet Sharing" option when the prompt window comes up and we're surfing the net at high speed. File downloaded in about a minute and after a quick installation he was moving his entire music folder over.
Thanks to HTC for using a great standard connection philosphy cause everyone has a mini usb cable lying around. And the connection prompt that so nicely presents itself upon connection so I don't even have to search for the app.

Here Here!
I've quite appreciated HTC's practices for using industry standards! Their phones offer exceptional quality, and performance at a reasonable price. If AT&T Had not f'd up the Touch Pro keyboard (seriously, what happened to the tab and the control key!) I could see using and hacking the hell out of this phone for YEARS

is it too much to ask for a 3.5 mm though?
but yes, fuze = AMAZING

3.5 mm? its bluetooth now man. when i had my tmo mda and i hooked it up to my car and ended up slamming on the brakes it flew but luckily the phone nor its connections broke but the part of the cable that hooked up to the stereo broke and only had to replace the cable
but yeah its nice to just whip it out and do stuff. kinda like them gphone commercials

nhshah7 said:
is it too much to ask for a 3.5 mm though?
but yes, fuze = AMAZING
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I'd love an audio jack. The one thing my mates Blackstone has over my Raphael.
What you said about industry standards it does annoy me that the mini USB connector is a little weird with the one flat side though. Bent a mini USB cable using it.

chetmichaels said:
3.5 mm? its bluetooth now man. when i had my tmo mda and i hooked it up to my car and ended up slamming on the brakes it flew but luckily the phone nor its connections broke but the part of the cable that hooked up to the stereo broke and only had to replace the cable
but yeah its nice to just whip it out and do stuff. kinda like them gphone commercials
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lol not quite yet sadly. i don't have a BT headset and i only know 3 people that do. most people still use regular corded headphones...like my awesome shure e2c's

trying to get Internet Sharing to work: I get an Edge connection on my fuze (ATT), make sure I can see teh internets (on the fuze, that is) then plug it into my XP laptop via USB (ActiveSynch starts), select Internet Sharing on the fuze, and see my laptop (XP) add a connection (LAN4- my fuze) but the Fuze (Internet Sharing screen) keeps saying "waiting for Network" and times out in ~30 second, and XP drops teh Lan4. I did change XPs Internet Sharign setting under IE-->tools-->InternetOptions-->Connections (check never dial) -->Lan Settings button check Automatically Detect Settings.
My XP Laptop is already setup for internet, I just disables the wireless onboard. I want to figure this out for a family roadtrip comign up, to browwse the internet on my laptop via my Fuze unlimmitted data plan.
ANy help? (PLEASE?)

markmensch said:
trying to get Internet Sharing to work: I get an Edge connection on my fuze (ATT), make sure I can see teh internets (on the fuze, that is) then plug it into my XP laptop via USB (ActiveSynch starts), select Internet Sharing on the fuze, and see my laptop (XP) add a connection (LAN4- my fuze) but the Fuze (Internet Sharing screen) keeps saying "waiting for Network" and times out in ~30 second, and XP drops teh Lan4. I did change XPs Internet Sharign setting under IE-->tools-->InternetOptions-->Connections (check never dial) -->Lan Settings button check Automatically Detect Settings.
My XP Laptop is already setup for internet, I just disables the wireless onboard. I want to figure this out for a family roadtrip comign up, to browwse the internet on my laptop via my Fuze unlimmitted data plan.
ANy help? (PLEASE?)
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did u search the forum for the registry tweaks to enable internet sharing? it involves deleting the contents of a key...try looking around and if not i'll be glad to help

Are you serious? I thought that was ust for Sprint customers, because Sprint blocked it... My Fuze came pre-loaded with an Internet Sharing app... and I still have to hack?

markmensch said:
Are you serious? I thought that was ust for Sprint customers, because Sprint blocked it... My Fuze came pre-loaded with an Internet Sharing app... and I still have to hack?
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No hack required. Just pay AT&T the extra 30 per month and you do not need to tweak.

ntron1 said:
No hack required. Just pay AT&T the extra 30 per month and you do not need to tweak.
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Well you can hack it if you want to http://www.fuzemobility.com/att-fuze-internet-sharing-tethering-revisited/

Thanks, Nhshah7, I found several threads on the topic. Maybe you can help tho, as they seemed unclear on:
Do I need to delete HKLM\...\forcecellconnection key and that's it? some threads seemed to suggest ATT will keep kicking me off and i have to run some script that keeps changing ..\settings\enabled back to 1. (BTW, genius points to the guy who wronte the script, if that's the real deal). got ~5 mins service today from home, didn't get kicked off, ~70kb speed from Edge home is in the sticks, no 3G an I even had to go outside to get Edge):
-ATT Fuze, default WM6.1 + various tweaks

props to davidk for the clutch fuzemobility link
and yes, you just need to delete the contents of teh key. after that choose to connect using medianet and you should be all set. i dont have any of those disconnect problems though, i can tether for a good 20-30 minutes without problems, not sure what everyone else is talking about with teh script though. i'll look aroundif i get that problem though

Android navigation, RDP, and carputer

Ok, I've been thinking about a veritable carputer for years and all this development in tablet PC's has me interested. In particular I've been keeping an eye out for a ~5" tablet with GPS, bluetooth, and support for Verizon EV-DO. I want to directly wire it to a 5V connection without the Li-ion battery (140F parked car) and rig up a mounting solution that enables me to store the bugger in the 5.25" stereo DIN when not in use, and pop out and up when in use. I've always hated the idea of visible screens in parked cars because it's worse than a "Steal Me sticker" such as a Kicker, Infinity, or Kenwood sticker, so the idea of a tablet that's as wide as a CD player is quite nifty to me. Now, the big kicker for this is I need it to run Garmin Mobile XT which isn't supported by Android, and the only device that fits the bill that's scheduled for relatively soon release is the Dell Streak, and it runs on Android. I also want to use it to stream FLAC's from my 70lb desktop at home via Verizon's enormous EV-DO network to the car, rather than having to keep a hard disk in the car/subject it to egg-cooking temperatures.
Do y'all think it'd be possible to get WinMo running on such a device? If not, are there any Android navigation softwares that DO NOT require a data connection to obtain map data; I kick it and work in enough middle o' nowhere spots without a 3G connection, and those are the places I need GPS the most. I really like Garmin Mobile XT because it occupies a bit over 1GB of maps for the contigious 48 + Canada on my microSD.
Any suggestions would be epicly appreciated.

You should use copilot live. It's as good if not better than garmin. And cheap.

CoPilot is useless in rural North America.

I already have a CarPC running Windows 7. I would kill to have Google Navigation running on it (through an android emulator or something, but with working GPS). Is this possible with the dev kit alone, or do they block the Maps.apk and use of a USB GPS.

from personal experience (i have a car-pc, and the verizon mifi), if you really love music, lol , i'd stay away from streaming from your home.
your idea was intially my intention, wen i got into the carpc project. (stream form my server's at home)
i'd recommend storing the content locally. say a 32gb sd card?
Streaming from last.fm or slacker radio works very well.
Is those on my nexus when the pc decides to act up and not start..

[Q] Android device cluster, networking or screen sharing

In short: Is it possible to cluster, network or push device output from one device to another, share storage devices and network/gps interfaces?
The long version: I have been wanting to build an in-car device that would store media and act as a gps and what not, but haven't found a way that I want to implement it yet. I was thinking if I found a x86 port of android, got most of the voice stuff working, I could have a headless device that I could store music on and use as navigation. I know the phones are capable of that, but if I want to keep say 500 gb of music on me, how does one do that?
My thoughts were if it were possible to either cluster or network an installed android powered unit to an android powered phone, I could always have network access from the unit in the car and share the gps from the phone, or have the phone access the storage from the device (not through dlna, but the music app seeing it as physical storage) and allow me to push the output from the in car device to the phone and let me interact with the system how ever I need to I could accomplish a form of in-car entertainment.
I figured that there could be apps written that would let the in-car device act as a headless unit, with its only interface being audio, it could store navigation directions/maps and what not, so if I didn't have the phone that day, I could still navigate to where I needed to. The phone and the device could constantly be in communication with each other if the car was parked by a wifi hotspot or something, so if I chose to navigate somewhere when I was at home, the car would already have the directions. I could also have it pull any media changes through wifi, and always have an updated media library.
I know the phones are fully capable of doing this, but for most of it, you have to have a window holster for the car to use the gps, and wires running for audio and charging and what not, but if there were a way that the in-car device could be hardwired to the audio system and left alone, the phone could stay in my pocked, be linked via bluetooth and I could have a small button-pad or something that would allow me to initiate google voice search, control the media player and interact with navigation. The whole thing with linking the phone and device together would be so the mobile network could be shared between android devices and the incar device could pull the information it needed. The thought of the display sharing was in case I needed to interact with the incar device.
I know what I am going on about is specific to me, but my thoughts behind it were if it were possible to do at least the network sharing (with out tethering or mobile hot spot blah blah blah) that android phone and tablet owners could do the same thing. They could share their mobile network through their tablet and have a tablet that would be always connected, would share mailboxes with the phone and basically act the way the Blackberry playbook is proposed or how the Palm Foleo was supposed to work. If the devices had a network ability of some level, the tablet could pull text messages, email messages, contacts or any other sync-able item.. That way, this wouldn't just be done for my benefit, but it would take tablet and phone owners to another league. Two devices that share the same information from one source and don't have to sync with the same servers twice. It would take a lot of redundancy out.
I hope you guys can see usefulness in my idea, and can shed some light for me.

Sorry from bringing this back from the dead, but since I never got any responses I'll add a bit more..
Does android have anything that would work like blackberry bridge between two android devices?

Droid Vnc server and androidvnc works fine for screen sharing. What I really like is the hpc aspects to CPU cycle sharing over wifi/nfc. Really interesting possibilities.

What I am looking for is to have the ability to use two separate android devices, but have them communicate via wifi/bluetooth or what ever and act as the same device in the sense that when the device with the data plan gets a text message or phone call, the notification goes through the other device that would be physically docked to audio equipment or what ever...
I have a Droid X, Droid Incredible, Droid Pro and a first gen Droid laying around.. Currently the Droid Pro is my in use phone.. The rest are just laying here. I want to be able to dock one of the others in my car, turn the GPS on, link it to my droid pro and have the other phone use the droid pro's active data connection for guidance/searches etc, and it would be docked to car audio, so it would need to access the pro's sd card, and have access to the pro's phone audio, or the ability to route calls from the pro to the other device via bluetooth or whatever, not by call forwarding.. This way it would be a sort of infotainment/telematics system..
Think of the possibilities this would open up for android tablets etc. If You could reply to text messages from your tablet because the tablet is linked/bridged to the phone in your pocket... That would make these tablet/laptop combos more appealing because it would the perfect convergence between tablet and phone.

Oh, and I guess, the other thing is that I have multiple cars, so one device would go in each car, and then when I got in the car, the one in that car would link with my phone, and everything would be the same, car to car, or device to device...

I guess another way to bump this:
Would it be possible for an app to do ADB to ADB via bluetooth or something, because then an app could be written like pdanet that would allow the network to be shared at least?

I dont remember the name of the app I think the name of it is Dashboard? and it will store/push all texts/emails etc. to every device u have dashboard installed on...Best buy has an app kinda like that too...Like the Idea of the screen sharing is that kinda like remote desktop/control?

I just search how to neywork cluster android came across your post ..... if you use the Google apps like Google play music/maps as well Google hangouts since with Google voice you can easily do what you want with out the need for both devices being together you can upload 50000 songs 9n play music for free and any device with ur hangouts and voice will receive ur calls and email notifications .....just need to make sure have Internet

Mk808b + usb gps

Hi All, has anyone had any success in getting android devices such as the MK808B to work with external GPS devices such as the Prolific PL2303? Desperately trying to find a way to support it so that I may use one to make a car PC. So if anyone can help / advise me how to install drivers and get it recognised in copilot I would be extremely grateful. Thanks
Dave

hotrodder said:
Hi All, has anyone had any success in getting android devices such as the MK808B to work with external GPS devices such as the Prolific PL2303? Desperately trying to find a way to support it so that I may use one to make a car PC. So if anyone can help / advise me how to install drivers and get it recognised in copilot I would be extremely grateful. Thanks
Dave
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Why not use a bluetooth GPS? £8 on ebay.

gloscherrybomb said:
Why not use a bluetooth GPS? £8 on ebay.
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I did try this using my android phone and a few apps that share your phone GPS as a bluetooth GPS but couldnt get it recognized by copilot. Id definately be open to this if i can get it recognized in there. Currently im using an archos 80 G9 tablet as my car PC, but want to switch to this mini pc for better performance and a better mounting option for in the dash - so my aim is to get GPS and a HDMI / USB touchscreen (such as an egalax screen) working. Then its a go. Ill then probably turn my hand to application development (my day to day job) to come up with the best option user interface wise and will happily share all the information and software i develop with the community.

MK808B + CoPilot (GlobalSat BT-359)
I am able to use MK808B + CoPilot (GlobalSat BT-359) with the help of a mock GPS provider app (Blutooth GPS). GoogleMaps \ Sygic are both working perfect.
I am also looking for a HDMI/USB touch screen for it, any update on this?
hotrodder said:
I did try this using my android phone and a few apps that share your phone GPS as a bluetooth GPS but couldnt get it recognized by copilot. Id definately be open to this if i can get it recognized in there. Currently im using an archos 80 G9 tablet as my car PC, but want to switch to this mini pc for better performance and a better mounting option for in the dash - so my aim is to get GPS and a HDMI / USB touchscreen (such as an egalax screen) working. Then its a go. Ill then probably turn my hand to application development (my day to day job) to come up with the best option user interface wise and will happily share all the information and software i develop with the community.
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I plan to get one of these once the GPS side of things is working, so ill crack on and try what you suggest. Thanks
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110659968637?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Ok, got a copilot branded BT GPS device, and its recognised and seems to be working with some apps - but not the one i want the most, copilot. It just states its unable to register for GPS updates, which sucks!

hotrodder said:
Ok, got a copilot branded BT GPS device, and its recognised and seems to be working with some apps - but not the one i want the most, copilot. It just states its unable to register for GPS updates, which sucks!
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I have one of these: http://www.amazon.com/Dual-Electron...p/B006M49G80/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=136138107
I use it w/out issue w/Google Maps, so I'll drop co-pilot on and see how it works out.
The rest of my CarPC setup:
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=806078

whats77inaname said:
I have one of these: http://www.amazon.com/Dual-Electron...p/B006M49G80/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=136138107
I use it w/out issue w/Google Maps, so I'll drop co-pilot on and see how it works out.
The rest of my CarPC setup:
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=806078
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I contacted the makers of Co-pilot and they said they dont support external GPS receivers. I have both the bluetooth and USB receivers but I think for co-pilot to support them I'd need to get to be recognised as the inbuilt GPS receiver. Co-pilot tells me its unable to register for GPS requests - but other apps _seem_ to work, but currently all my testing is done on a PC monitor, so its hard to hit the road and see if its actually working. I currently have an archos G9 80 built into my Jag XK8 and im so pleased with the functionality - but not so much with the GPS support (can be hit and miss) and with the mounting. Prior to that i had a windows PC, but that was much worse of an installation.

phone as a pc

Hi,
Simple question really... In light of the Samsung Dex thing i want to know can i use my Google Pixel XL in the same manor?
I know it doesnt support MHL so i am guessing the answer is no but maybe with wifi?
I was hoping for a dock i could just drop my phone into and have it pop up on a screen with a wired mouse and keyboard.
My Partner and i have started a shop, we dont need a lot of processing power its simple facebook, picture editing, calendars and emailing, I would love to just have the phone to do it all but to make it easier to do while in the shop.
also makes it simpler if the internet goes down (was thinking of getting an unlimited data plan so i dont even need internet in the shop.
i know i can bluetooth a keyboard and mouse but i dont like batteries, and i think i do the screen by Chrome Cast but i dont have much luck with chrome casts and i think this means i will have to have the internet in the shop...
any suggestions welcome.