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The Official WM6 Thread

Ok guys, so WM6 on Tornado exists (currently running on my device as we speak). But there are quite a few things we need to sort out before it can be released 'En Masse' Before this time I will ignore ALL PMs asking for the ROM.
There is a WM6 comments/suggestion/speculation thread HERE. Feel free to put in requests for embedded apps etc, but please realise we won't be able to put in EVERYTHING. So when the ROM is at a more completed stage we will draw up a shortlist for the apps etc to be embedded and let you vote it out
Current Issues:
Still has identifying build numbers etc to my source
Doesn't sync at all with a PC but will sync over exchange
It says WM5 with MSFP when its really WM6 (OS 5.2.xxx)
No Camera
No MMS
Issues fixed:
Wifi not accessable - new comm manager
No Office (fixed with a cab)
No t9 - updated to xT9 with 14 languages (fixed with a cab)
WLM is still beta and so needs removing and then updating (fixed with WLM RTM cab)
Things we need from a Tornado WM5 ROM
Camera.exe with all the mui extensions
Lets keep this thread clean, ok? I don't want sh!t loads of n00bs saying "where can I download ROM?". So, before you ask, here's my answer. YOU CAN'T DOWNLOAD IT UNTIL ITS FINISHED!!!!
If a mod could remove such posts i'd be forever grateful
Please only post if you have information regarding how to fix the issues I've outlined above.
Phil

So... i am Alex from ronswens forum. i promise to fix that if you give me the rom and you can contact me via ICQ .. we need at least 3 tests - first, we upgrade xip, then new os build and then fix the camera...

T9 now fixed, office added, WLM fixed
Phil

@sp3dev, unfortunatley i dont have ICQ, do you have an MSN email address?
Phil

isnt there someone already working on this?
guy called duke_stiks
anyway good luck with the developing and fixing of this.

sandman_06 said:
isnt there someone already working on this?
guy called duke_stiks
anyway good luck with the developing and fixing of this.
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I think this is the sort of n00b-ish comment jm012a9749's trying to avoid in this thread.
I mean, honestly, do you think he believes he's the only one to have attained a tornado version? Come on...
Look, this guy is aware of Duke's efforts, heck we all are, but the more people who get involved, the more efficiently we can get a polished product. There's no guarantee that Duke nor jm012a9749 will be able to do anything, so why should any of us sit back and not get involved? Besides, Duke himself has mentioned that he needs help since he's not an experienced Rom cooker.
Sorry for the rant here, but this sort of attitude really bothers me. Saying "oh, someone's already doing that, sit back and don't waste your time" is why certain projects never see the light of day...
Please only post helpful information or questions!

you can fix activesync by replacing the usbfn.dll file.

sp3dev said:
So... i am Alex from ronswens forum. i promise to fix that if you give me the rom and you can contact me via ICQ - 336030424.. we need at least 3 tests - first, we upgrade xip, then new os build and then fix the camera...
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Alex would you please tell me the new address of ronswens forum?

as usual, ronswens.jconserv.net. as for active sync, i remember those early builds missed actsync.dll.. but better give me the rom, i will use build 17xxx from excalibur and drivers, camera, t9 etc from wm5

Dishe said:
I think this is the sort of n00b-ish comment jm012a9749's trying to avoid in this thread.
I mean, honestly, do you think he believes he's the only one to have attained a tornado version? Come on...
Look, this guy is aware of Duke's efforts, heck we all are, but the more people who get involved, the more efficiently we can get a polished product. There's no guarantee that Duke nor jm012a9749 will be able to do anything, so why should any of us sit back and not get involved? Besides, Duke himself has mentioned that he needs help since he's not an experienced Rom cooker.
Sorry for the rant here, but this sort of attitude really bothers me. Saying "oh, someone's already doing that, sit back and don't waste your time" is why certain projects never see the light of day...
Please only post helpful information or questions!
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Exactly, since day 1 I've been working with duke_stix to help get a working version of crossbow. However now that I've made some progress and actually HAVE a device myself to test on, I felt it was nessary to start a new thread dedicated to it rather than the old dump rom thread
@faria, will try this later, thanks for the advice
Phil

More info on the missing USB sync... under connections, 'USB isnt listed.
Idea's?
Phil

Camera Software
Hi, I found this camera software. Its the one they using in WM6 i think. (Its kinda like the one on my Vox) Im using it on my tronado, and it works with some cert fixes.
Hope this helps

will you be tweaking the rom for speed/performace on the tornado?

sandman_06 said:
will you be tweaking the rom for speed/performace on the tornado?
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seriously sandman,you are not helping!!! am sorry for ranting but like what the thread starter said NO NOOB posting!!! sheesh man!!! they are not "tweaking for performance" for crying out loud!!! they are cooking a wm6 rom!!!

How about we get the ROM fully functional BEFORE we start tweaking it
Phil

samyboy said:
Hi, I found this camera software. Its the one they using in WM6 i think. (Its kinda like the one on my Vox) Im using it on my tronado, and it works with some cert fixes.
Hope this helps
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Thanks alot for that samyboy
Looks like were getting there with regards to functionality
Also does anybody have the Arcsoft MMS client? I've been searching for a while now but no dice. Also could do with the default windows task manager as well.
Phil

Stuff
Maybe you can find some useful stuff here:
http://218.93.115.138/d900/

You can have the WIFI option appear on its current Comm Manager thru Registry.. i have tried it and it worked.. but anyway, glad the new Comm Manager worked also..

The new comm manager also has flight mode, beam and IP Phone buttons on it
Phil

I don't know if we have the same build or version jm012a9749 but the following bugs are present on mine..
"BETA" text on the homescreen
FIX:
HKLM - Software - Miscrosoft - Shell
DELETE - "DeviceBETA" key
You can't open the Sound in Settings (Settings - Sounds)
Culprit could be the file soundsgsm.cpl.xml on /windows/ directory
I just got my new Tornado again awhile ago, and hoping that i could help this team in any way..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=310380

ActiveSync Error 86000107 - possible cause: ringtones!

As many others I've had the error message 86000107 during ActiveSync synchronization. In my case the cause was the multiple change of ringtones on the PPC using 'VIP PIM Ringtone' (used version, see signature). Think, the cause was not using the tool but having changed >100 contacts at once.
Solution in ActiveSync on PC:
Uncheck 'contacts' in synchronization options. Take care: This will delete your contacts on PPC and your individual assignments of ringtones to contacts, too!
Confirm Deletion.
Synchronize without having 'contacts' checked. Now everything could work fine.
Check the option 'contacts' again.
Synchronize having 'contacts' checked.
Now try assigning individual ringtones again. But check synchronization after each assignment. Perhaps you find out more (ringtone not proper? ...).

llok like it is Active sync 4.5 with Wm6.1 device
Look look like if many changes happend between two sync then Active sync 4.5 with wm6.1 produce error.

v3patel said:
Look look like if many changes happend between two sync then Active sync 4.5 with wm6.1 produce error.
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Sorry to double post the same thing but
I don’t think its to do with the amount of data changed to be synced ,I have desk top cradle at home and in the office and I stand the phone in the cradles to charge and even if I have not changed any data the issue still happens ??
But if I un check JUST THE CONTACTS let the device sync it is ok if I then check contacts its ok again ,that is until it see the other pc this happen when no data has been changed on pc1 pc1 or ppc

Actually, it is the amount of information, but it isn't just ringtones. If you have more than 100 of anything, it will cause this error. 100 contacts, 100 appointments, 100 tasks, 100 notes, anything. Since I have far more than 100 (1300 contacts, 397 appointments in the next 2 weeks), I get the error every time I switch from one computer to another. There is a solution, but nobody is as yet releasing it. Microsoft has acknowledged it is a WM 6.1 problem, and they have supposedly released a patch, AKU 1.2. But either it has not actually been released, or all the providers are currently evaluating it and won't admit it.
I wrote HTC earlier today inquiring about the AKU 1.2 patch, and got the response that my provider would have to release it for them to provide it on their site. My provider is US Cellular. I called tec support, the original rep had no idea what I was talking about, but he transferred me to the tec support specifically for smartphones, and talked with a rep. She also didn't know about the problem, but searched their knowledge base. She first tried to give me the "solution" many have tried (removing the relationship, etc.), then she found the AKU 1.2 patch I had told her was the real solution, and acknowledged this was the real answer. Unfortunately, she says that Microsoft has not yet released the patch. My complaint was noted, but she said there was nothing to do until Microsoft released the patch. My response was that they needed to call Microsoft and complain, just I was doing with US Cellular.
I suggest that everyone needs to start calling your provider and asking when the patch will be made available. We need to light some fires. If I'm the only unhappy customer, that's too bad. If they start getting lots of unhappy customers, perhaps they will become a little more motivated. I seem to have been the first unhappy person to have called US Cellular.
To cut down the time you have to stay on hold, if you are a US Cellular customer, here's the direct # for the tec center that deals with smartphones: 888-996-5499
BTW, one suggestion the rep had was to reinstall WM6.1. "It won't hurt anything". I installed 6.1 it at the beginning of the week, and just got everything the way I liked it, including installing TouchFlo 2D. Even with backing stuff up, this isn't the solution I'm looking for. Has anyone else tried this? Does anyone want to? Can anyone see a reason why installing it a second time would make it work, when Microsoft has acknowledged they have a problem?

... i faced the same problem... founding finally the best solution - promissed.
Just use Pocket Mirror Prof. for Calendar, Tasks and Contacts. Notes u can still use with AS.
It will sync 100% without probs, much faster and seeing what is left.
(contacts about 4500, 3500 calendar entries in 30 min.)
Cheers

himariohere said:
... i faced the same problem... founding finally the best solution - promissed.
Just use Pocket Mirror Prof. for Calendar, Tasks and Contacts. Notes u can still use with AS.
It will sync 100% without probs, much faster and seeing what is left.
(contacts about 4500, 3500 calendar entries in 30 min.)
Cheers
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So your solution is to buy a $50 program, instead of MS fixing their problem? This sounds like the spam another thread warning noobs was talking about.

MS have fixed the problem in later AKU releases - it's down to the vendor to implement the fix on within their ROM's...
The HTC Diamond has been fixed, the Pro will be fixed, the HD will not have the problem, etc. etc.
Grey handsets are the Dual, Cruise, TyTN 2 and x7510 - this all use AKU1.2 so shall be affected the the '107' problem.
If your handset is branded, you will need to petition them in order for the fix to be released.

yrreP said:
MS have fixed the problem in later AKU releases - it's down to the vendor to implement the fix on within their ROM's...
The HTC Diamond has been fixed, the Pro will be fixed, the HD will not have the problem, etc. etc.
Grey handsets are the Dual, Cruise, TyTN 2 and x7510 - this all use AKU1.2 so shall be affected the the '107' problem.
If your handset is branded, you will need to petition them in order for the fix to be released.
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I have, my first post was meant to encourage others to do the same.

Bogy54 said:
So your solution is to buy a $50 program, instead of MS fixing their problem? This sounds like the spam another thread warning noobs was talking about.
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First of all, I agree on that "MS needs to to fix that".
By the way, I talked to MS and I talked to SE, both linked to each others.
In differrent forums, the topic is hot without any proofen tested "YES it works".
For this reason, I open to pay an amount for a working solution.... and meanwhile, where other people are trying to fix and to fix and to fix.... I go riding my snowboard, knowing everything works
How is that....

error message
The '100' contacts error message cropped up on my touch pro today - Im back in xda land after my mini-s died when water entered my jacket pocket on my motorbike! The xda finally came back to life....but its backlight didnt.... ah well. I played with a google G1 for three weeks before crawling back to winmo...fancy that. Android is so much easier to use than windows mobile...shame about the hardware.... but soon..... soon...
Anyway im just about to reinstall the 690 contacts on my pro - Im only posting because I happen to notice I have 90 entries in my calendar! ooo close one!

Time goes by without a working solution.
Any help yet?

WM 6.1 and Exch2007 ActivSync error - Any way to use 6.0 AS?

With certain Exchange 2007 configurations WM 6.1 experiences an error with sending messages. Basically when an email is sent the Activesync window locks up on a white screen and the message will stay in the outbox getting resent every time the phone syncs. The only way to stop the message from being resent is to go to the outbox and manually delete the message.
MS is releasing a patch (not until Nov/Dec though) and is allowing people to request it now. I work for a large company though that will not install the patch until it has been extensively tested, and who may wonder why I reflashed my phone anyway
I am currently using Kumaras ROM and am very happy with it, and the issue is not ROM specific at all (happened for me on Dutty's and Laurentius's ROMS as well).
This issue however is forcing me to go back to 6.0, but I would love to stay with the 6.1 ROMs that are being released.
So my question is - does anyone know of any alternative to Activesync that connects with exchange, or any way to downgrade Activesync that would correct this?
https://forums.microsoft.com/Window...PageIndex=2&SiteID=65&PageID=2&PostID=3740552
I don't think there will be any client side fix, but thought I would ask before I start researching the 6.0 ROMs.
Oh and feel free to recommend a 6.0 ROM! It's been ahwile so I can't remember - I think Alex's were my favorites but it has been many flashes since I tried one.
Cheers,
Matt

bumping once to see if anyone has anything to say on this....
Cheers

well technically, a chef cannot just drop in AS from WM6.0 into a WM6.1 ROM.
activesync is not its own package. parts of it are in OS and Shell. replacing OS and Shell with WM6.0 components would kind of defeat the purpose.

Has anyone found a client side fix for this other than dowgrading to a 6.0 ROM.

SMS Vulnerability impacting WM devices?

I read from this article:http://www.macrumors.com/2009/07/31/apple-to-release-fix-for-iphone-sms-vulnerability-on-saturday/
It says the vulnerability impacts our WM phone as well. Anyone has checked that and if fix is available? Tried using Google to search our beloved forum but didn't pop up anything yet ..

I read about this too and if it can be patched that quickly on Android then I'd hope it should also be a quick patch on WinMo, especially as the SMS functionality is implemented in pretty much the same way apparently.
Plus XDA has people who are working with Android so maybe they can share what changes Google have made?

I am fairly surprised this hasn't been picked up by the technical bods here as it is quite a major vulnerability and Apple and Google have patched their OS's so WinMo is trailing behind... unless someone knows of a patch thats already been done?

I'm going to PM some mods I know ..

Any response from them yet?

Our good Dave is going to check with some resident expert.. and hopefully some lights to be shed.
From the info I gathered, it actually result in DOS for iPhone and Android, but no news/confirmation on WM yet. So we don't know. However, given the method explored by the author, it's likely at minimum resulting the same (DOS, phone hung, etc.). I think, for phone user, this is critical, as you can't spend your day checking the phone always just to make sure it's still connecting to network/operators.

From what I read the vulnerability could allow for remote code execution including reading your phone's storage and activating cameras and gps. So someone could write an app that send this information back via the data connection and that person could be watched and tracked without knowing that there were compromised.
This is obviously worst case scenario but I for one would sit on the paranoia side of the fence and get it plugged. If we can.

From what I got and discussion, it's mostly DOS.
However, IMO, it still scary. You can't be contacted nor SMS-ed without you realizing until you need to initiate call/ connection.
For someone most of the time on receiving side (doctors, etc) it's really a danger. I do hope our resident expert can find out something, as I don't think MS will be doing it.

You may want to read this article where they interview one of the guys that found the vuln...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/hacking-iphone-security,2384.html
(Linked from Slashdot -
Specifically this bit on page 4...
Charlie: Collin's framework also works on Android and WinMobile. We found some denial of service bugs in Android (which we reported and are fixed) and a pretty bad bug in the way HTC WinMobile phones handle SMS messages containing the format specifier %n. That's a fun one because you don't need any special tools to send the malicious message, just use your phone to text your buddy with %n and their TouchFlo (application manager) will crash and won't come back up.

Starfury said:
Specifically this bit on page 4...
Charlie: Collin's framework also works on Android and WinMobile. We found some denial of service bugs in Android (which we reported and are fixed) and a pretty bad bug in the way HTC WinMobile phones handle SMS messages containing the format specifier %n. That's a fun one because you don't need any special tools to send the malicious message, just use your phone to text your buddy with %n and their TouchFlo (application manager) will crash and won't come back up.
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Well, tested the %n story, didn't crash anything on my Topaz WM 6.5 manila 2.5
So regarding manila 2.5 it's: fud
EqX

the-equinoxe said:
Well, tested the %n story, didn't crash anything on my Topaz WM 6.5 manila 2.5
So regarding manila 2.5 it's: fud
EqX
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I believe the current HTC handsets come with WM6.1 now as standard, either HTC or Operator flavoured. As this is a forum for all HTC devices on WM5.0/6.0/6.1/6.5 can we have some testing done on stock ROM's on stock devices please?

I'm going to send a %n text to my buddy's phone and see.
At least now the thread is getting some attention. My concern is for people (like me) that rely more on receiving call/SMS than making call/sending SMS. A crashed network connection will result in no phone at all.

How'd the testing go and any movement on patching?

Just sent myself a %n message but nothing happened. On TPC v10.9 on M2D (Mega's M2D)
My friend is now using custom ROM .. so no try there. I don't have OEM that has M2D ..

What about just trying it on a bog standard WM6.1 OEM ROM from an operator.

Can do .. later perhaps when I'm changing ROM again. I thought it only crashes M2D? No OEM for Kaiser has M2D ..

Reviving this thread because iPhone is vulnerable. Not sure if IE also on our Kaiser? Opera?
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=14663

[Q] threaded (conversation) email option in wm6.5.x

Does anyone know how to enable threaded email (Conversation Email option) option in pocket Outlook of Sprint Lovers ROM (CE OS 5.2.28232 (Build 28232.5.3.3)). This is a feature that is available in wm6.5.3. If anyone knows of any ROM that has this added features for Sprint TP2, please let me know.
I am doing push email using TP2's ActiveSync with my Gmail account. Furthermore, I went to the registry and searched for the word "conversation". There is one DWord that has it, but conversation mode does not appear in my pocket email. Here is the reg key:
[HKCU\Software\Microsoft\ActiveSync]
"ConversationMode"=dword:1
Thanks for your help.

It's either cooked in or it isn't. Any ROM running build 235xx is going to have it. It's a part of the SYS build itself. It's not an app that you can add in. Ask your chef about it. So far you can only get threaded email in 6.5.3 builds. If you're looking for it in 6.5, then you're out of luck.

What you are looking for is quite probably in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=634138
There is a cab in the first post that folks are having mixed results with. The last post in the thread includes the files from 23569.
Best regards,
-boggsie

boggsie said:
What you are looking for is quite probably in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=634138
There is a cab in the first post that folks are having mixed results with. The last post in the thread includes the files from 23569.
Best regards,
-boggsie
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I seriously doubt that's going to work. I'm not saying it won't, but judging by the feedback on the thread, it doesn't look like it's working for most people.