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COURAGE:-) MDAIII - Key remapping project

Hi all ...
we need some (maybe a lot) help from programmers to try to remap the hard keyboard keys from mda3.
As many guys know, we are a lot that we buy the mda3 with german hard keyboard layout... and now that we all have an english os, we must remap the key and symbols.
Any idea will be appreciated, we have all files from german os an english os.
Nobody want to broke the keyboard to glue the buttons in other place...
Nobody now how and where can order another english keyboard and replace it phisically.
Remain two thinks:
1. find the file with the layout and remap the symbols via hex edit
2. recompile a new layout (and here may be usefull for future progs)
All idea wiil be apreciated, all guru's invited
Please help us ... we can not take advantage of the new hard keyboard in this mode.
Thanks all before and...
COURAGE FOR ALL NEW POSTS THAT MUST BE UPDATED(POSTED) !!!
DenisJ

Actually, keys and numbers are fine. It's punctuation that is almost impossible to use unless you have a good memory
From what I remember of the old thread that got wasted, a few things were looked at but it seems harder than it should. You would think one or two files transferred from the PDA2K to the MDA III, like a keyboard dll and a mapping data file, would do the trick but, as usual with engineers, they made it harder than it should.

I can suggest another way for this remapping: just writing a kind of program lookind for keypressings and substitute them with another keystrokes.
I've already done it for Russian keyboard (project home page is http://ae.inc.ru/bahrus.html , but it is Russian only). Current state is "beta".
I can do some key remappings this way. But I need to know which of the keys should be replaced with which one. Or replacement table may be simply saved in config.

I'll do a tabel with the replaced hex value ...
You need only the xex value for this or need more ?
Thanks a lot
Denis

Let's try (before find all remapping simbol) to remap only the two letters z and y.
Symbolic constant Value (Hex) keyboard equivalent
VK_Y 59 Y key
VK_Z 5A Z key
like ... if '59' then '5A' and viceversa...
If we can remap this two letters, we can remap all we want.
Thanks a lot
Denis

german to english
since the site posts went down i have received my mda3 in german of course and would love to know how to flash it with an english rom, all other threads however speak of xda3nbftool which i can't find anywhere, also many of the links for required files don't work. any help please?? thank you

Re: german to english
paulmurphy777 said:
since the site posts went down i have received my mda3 in german of course and would love to know how to flash it with an english rom, all other threads however speak of xda3nbftool which i can't find anywhere, also many of the links for required files don't work. any help please?? thank you
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Go here:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/
and look for Bluangel folder.
Regards

Ok, I decided to implement more general solution for this problem and develop customizable hardware key-remapping software. This application wil allow to remap not only BlueAngel built-in keyboard but almost any hardware keybord connected to wince (some of my friends use Luch or Flexis external keyboards with PDA).
Hope first beta version will appear next week.

thank you!, sure i'll be back with more questions though!

Fantastic!
I'm excited about this

AE said:
Ok, I decided to implement more general solution for this problem and develop customizable hardware key-remapping software. This application wil allow to remap not only BlueAngel built-in keyboard but almost any hardware keybord connected to wince (some of my friends use Luch or Flexis external keyboards with PDA).
Hope first beta version will appear next week.
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Wow, that's great news. (exactly what I wanted to hear!) Keep up the good work. (you rock)

AEKMap is available at http://ae.inc.ru/aekmap.html
To make "remapping" you need:
- install the program;
- run Start - Programs - AEKMap Settings and choose "AZERTY MDAIII with English ROM" in first combo box
- set three other optional layouts to "unassigned" and/or unassign "switch" key.
If you want to create specific layout, you may start with editing one of the existing. Use \Program Files\AEKMap\AEKMapScan.exe to define keyboard pseudo-scan codes.
To find unicode character codes use Start -> Programs -> Accessories -> System Tools -> Character Map on your desktop
This program may be closed with popup menu on system tray (lower-right corner of today screen).
And I'm definitly sure that some bugs are in this utility now. Let me know if you find them
Also send me with your layouts to be published on site (will appear in a days)
P.S.: AEKMapper may be used to remap almost any external or built-in hardware keyboard recognized by system.

AWESOME!
Thanks for doing this. If i understand correctly, what's needed now to get the German MDA III keyboard mapped correctly, following the imate english rom installation, is to:
use AEKmapscan.exe to identify all the keys that need remapping
then look up the correct unicode characters for the desired keymapping
enter them into a .AEK file and put into the Program Files/AEKMap directory on the MDA III.
If i get some free time today, that's what I'll do. If anybody beats me to it, please post!
thanks again, AE!

So here is a mostly working layout file for the MDAIII German. The only thing that seems to be not working is the semicolon/colon key just to the right of the space bar. that key seems to have no shifted mode, according to aekmapscan.exe
also: if aekmapscan.exe is running, this appears to stop the keyboard from working at all in applications. it needs to be stopped entirely.
Thanks again for this great tool!

It is always nice to know your job is needful to someone
As for the problem with semicolon: changing CapsLock/Shift processing flags should help:
HookShift 1
HookCapsLock 1
Probably I'll find a better solution for this later, but now I can't...
Official project home page will be available at http://ae.inc.ru/aekmap.html

thanks for the tool, works great. Can you add an option to not have the mapping name on the bottom, i.e. DenisJ Layout? It covers up the wireless icon that I use to turn Wifi on & off.
thanks again for the app

you already can turn it off. that's the "hint" option in the settings.

A parts from thanks the great job from AE, i wan't to try to ask a question:
In the registry there's a part...
HKCU/Keyboard Layout that have a profile value..
Could it be usefull..
My German Mda3 have... preload/1 set to e0010409.
Can anyone post the english Pda2K value...
Rups..

Bug report
AEKMap works quite well, thanks to the developer!
But...
I noticed that, when AEKMap is on, you can´t adjust sound/volume levels from the external button on the left side of the screen. Is that a bug or a feature? :roll:
Second thing is that if you switch the AEKMap off, you can switch it on only by softreset. Is that ment to be?
Can anyone confirm those features, or is it just in my MDAIII?
-Jigi

Sorry guys but i just arive from my fisrt (this year) snowboard weekend
AE many many thanks from me and (as can you see) from all other guys with the same german mda3...
I just tryed some days ago to begin something like this using EVC++ 4.0 ... but it's too much to study for an as400 programmer
This will be surrely in my startup programs for a log live time of my mda3...
Surelly we will ask you some options in future ...
Another lot of thanks
DenisJ

Input > auto suggest = useless?

With my TyTN = Hermes and WM6.0 the autosuggestion of words seems much better than the Raphaels (at least in the hardware keybord stance).
Can someone explain why that is or if I have haven´t understood the utility or something else right?
With TyTN it basically suggests 4 alternatives in a diagonal way, it can be one word or SEVERAL words in a row, depending on what I´we written before. And you choose from them with the upp and down arrow keys. Simple and quick.
With Raphael it suggests several ONLY singular words horisontally, and if it´s not in the dictionary it automatically chooses another word than the one you´we just written (!?). Slow and awkward.
Also - who is behind this solution? Windows Mobile 6.1 or is it HTC Raphaels unique solution?
Thanks in advance
/Danne

Anybody have an opinion or information on this matter?
At least the system is a part of WM6.1 or if it´s Raphaels unique solution? Because I´m thinking about buying a Kaiser with WM6.1 instead and wonder if it has the same solution.

Sorry, no additional info, but I'm in the same boat so to speak.
I find it completely useless, specially since I don't always use English in my SMS messages, and I found that it becomes a nightmare if it doesn't find a match and then forces my word to something it thinks it should be.
What I cannot understand is that under Settings-Personal-Input-Word Completion - I have DISABLED it, but it still friking tries to complete my words, even in keyboard mode???
Do you know of another place to disable this dastardly excuse of a feature?

HAH!
Found it! If you want to disable it completely, the do the following:
1) make sure you disable it under settings - all settings - personal - Word Completion.
2) When you open a new message, bring up the virtual keyboard and look for the button that reads "ABC T9" - it has a toggle on the button, make sure it is on "ABC" and NOT T9 -voila!
Now I can SMS again!

I´m glad I was not the only one being irritated about this. But at least it´s possible to turn it off, so thanks for posting the solution Piie
I actually returned my TP because of this and severeal other reasons but I´m thinking about buying it again or some other WM6.1 phone. So do you know if your solution to turn if of works with Word Mobile documents as well?
And still, if somebody knows if it´s part of Raphael or WM6.1, please let me know.

Agreed 100% on the uselessness of word completion feature on the TP. On mine, the T9 feature actually slows the sms application so much as to make it completely unusable. This is probably my biggest complaint with this device.

Yip, following the steps as posted also removes the predictive text completely for Word ( and all other apps I have used so far)...

Thanks piie

I believe its part of the TP keyboard (SIP) not WM6.1 , when i had my kaiser with wm6.1 this "IRRITATING" issue was not there, but when i installed the diamond keyboard on my kaiser, this thing came out...... now its part of the TP because of its keyboard.......... so its HTC

I was getting annoyed with the behavior described in posts 1 and 2, disableds the whole thing too (I had an Excalibur before and it seemed to work far better on this particular aspect).
However, I decided to give the TP's T9 another shot and started changing it's configurations and finally got rid of the annoiance related: when on a text field, bring up the T9 options by pressing "Fn" + "Space", select "T9" settings and on the screen that appears uncheck the "Spell Correction" and "Auto-substitution" boxes.
Now I'm using the word prediction (T9) again just like I used in my old device, tipying much faster! (specially because I commonly write in portuguese and my keyboard is the UK one...).
Hope this helps you guys.
Cheers.

Sweet!
So you can still have predictive text, but remove the actual "irritant" of it overriding your word if it doesn't match it's dictionery - seems like that is the answer to your problem Danne?
For me - I really don't care for ANY kind of prediction - most often than not, even in English, the suggestions are maybe 30% usefull if that...

Great!
Yes, this is solution and now I know it´s part of Raphael/Diamond and not WM6.1!
Still, the Hermes WM6-solution with prediction of several words based on what you previously have written seems better. But I am happy with this!
I guess that´s the last words for me in this discussion.
Thanks guys!

just wondering how to disable word completion without installing htc ezinput, because at input settings by disabling it, doesn't work at all.

here's everything you need to know on how to get back to the old style autocorrect and change your dictionaries: http://www.fuzemobility.com/?p=1527

That however breaks your hardware keyboard
sym key will stop working and you can't get pound and euro sign using FN key....
see my thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470647

Alot of quastions, help me solve them!!!

Hi all i am new att this but i need some help.
I got hp 614c with WM 6.1.
Quastions:
1: Can i use HTC made WM 6.1 roms?
2: Can it take dmg if i use other roms then my own HP IpaQ 614 roms?
3: I need a swedish xt9 for my ipaq (tryed several, non working, i'll try anything you think might work)
4: Is there anyway i can get WM 6.1 on swedish?
5: Can anyone recommend a easy app to send same sms to multiple contacts without add them 1 by 1 (so i can add several contacts in the list by check them or something)
Thanks in advance //AzAkiii
PS. I Searched for theese things all day, and i got no luck! thats why i am posting it!

You will brick your phone if you try and load a rom not made for your phone.
Try group sms for sending sms messages to mass groups of people.

thanks!
Then i wont to that for sure!
Still wondering about xt9 for swedish on my ipac 614c

search for GroupSMS 1.4.3 in the forum.
also, try going to www.cootek.com and check their forum for a swedish language pack for TouchPal 3.5...
nevermind... saved you the trouble.. this is the direct link to their forum to the swedish language pack post with the cab file.
you will have to BUY touchpal to use it.
http://www.cootek.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=516

I don't know about the xt9 you'll just have to try some different programs, you'l just have to find something compatible. This is an htc forum and thats what i'm familiar with, i don't know to much about ipaq's (hp) (much less a swedish version )

Hardware Keyboard "Sym" functionality disabled

Hi,
I have installed the Hornet 5.1b ROM that has Win6.1 as the OS. I am able to use all the hardware keyboard functions as standard i.e. the default letters and default symbol for each key.
The problem I have is that the "Sym" key found on teh Wizards spacebar will not cycle through the available symbols available for that specific key. I.e. If, on standard Windows Mobile device, I wish to enter the pound symbol (£) I would press the Fn key + the G letter that has the $ sign as it's default symbol. I would then press the Fn key and the Sym key to cycle through to change the symbol to £.
The actual Sym function on my current ROM does not work. There is no functionality at all for this button.
I do not want to flash to another ROM as I am very happy barring this one issue. I am wondering if anyone knows how to regain this Sym functionality? I have done plenty of searching and most results will refer to language changes - this is not what my problem.
Hope to get a helpful response to this thread.
Cheers,
DocJ0nes

I just wanted to thank you because I never knew you could do that!
It works fine on my custom WM6.0 ROM.

OK on WM6.5
Just to remark that sym function works fine on my Qtek 9100 h/w keyboard running WM6.5. I'm using XDA2's (Haseeb's) ROM.
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Qtek9100 running XDA2 WM6.5
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Glad to help at least
How is the 6.5 ROM? I'm reluctant to try it as my tests with converted language ROMS in the past have not been fun.
Anyone else know a solution to my problem...?

WM6.5 performance
docj0nes said:
Glad to help at least
How is the 6.5 ROM? I'm reluctant to try it as my tests with converted language ROMS in the past have not been fun.
Anyone else know a solution to my problem...?
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Well, in general workable. Slow in messaging start-up, but otherwise like a heavily-loaded 6.1 Well worth the "sacrifice" in my case. I use Spb Mobile Shell v.3.0 and have disabled CHome.

Hi All,
Can one of you guys send me a UK version of the sym.txt file found in the root of the windows directory on your wizard. The sym.txt may have a 4 digit number in the filename, this is the one I need.
I would like to compare the file you have with a working "Sym" button configuration and hopefully fix mine myself.
PM me for my email address if you are interested in helping me
Ta,
docj0nes

docj0nes said:
Hi All,
Can one of you guys send me a UK version of the sym.txt file found in the root of the windows directory on your wizard. The sym.txt may have a 4 digit number in the filename, this is the one I need.
I would like to compare the file you have with a working "Sym" button configuration and hopefully fix mine myself.
PM me for my email address if you are interested in helping me
Ta,
docj0nes
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Like everyone else, I thank you for telling us about the feature. I always wondered what "sym" was supposed to do. It also does accent marks. =]
I'm pretty sure I don't have a UK sym.txt and I don't know where to get one, but here is my sym.txt if you want to compare anyways. It works, but I think it is WWE:

larger qwerty keyboard

is there a landscape qwerty input type available that has larger keys?

Resco's Keyboard is Full Screen when in portrait mode. All keyboard vary in functionality. I personally like EzInput because of its simplicity. Other keyboards seem to throw too many options and stuff in there to please everyone.
Simplicity is the reason why the iPhones SIP keyboard is considered awesome (plus the compacitive screen)

I'm very new to the world of Windows Mobile, (i used to work with android/iPhone OS)
It's probably a stupid question, but how do i install EzInput?
Thanks in advance!

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My diamond2 is 6.1, so it doesn't have EzInput.
Do you have a link/tutorial to flash it to 6.5?

Stupid questions don't exist mate Everyone has to start from the beginning. A good beginning is the search option and the wiki, that's how i learned a lot.
Now to get back to your question, look here for a lot of info on ezinput as well as other keyboards:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534678&highlight=ezinput

Thanks for the help.
I searched already on this forum / on the internet, but I didn't find any clear posts.
I'll try those links

I think I installed EzInput now, but I don't see any change of the keyboard...
Do I have to change a setting or something else?
(Do you have a link where I can see/read how to flash 6.5 on my diamond?)

I guess yours came default with that.
Well ofcourse i've got a link for you but first...
A quick guide:
Select your phone here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/
Read everything you can find about flashing cooked rom's, radio's and hardspl
The choice of your radio is very personal, it's different for each country but very important 'cause it basically give you good signal
The choice of the cooked rom is very personal. Some put speed over graphics whilst others like it the other way around
It's very important and the first step of flashing to start with HardSPL'ing your device. If you don't start with that you won't be able to do anything with 6.5
After that you can choose your rom and read all the info that the cook (a rom builder) has provided for the users, there are quite some differences and things to know and learn about roms in these posts. To install a rom you need CustomRUU (installer) and some even support flashing from your microsd card.
The last part is to always hard-reset your device after you've completed 1 of the 3 basic steps. Be aware that you'll loose all the data on your phone, it's basically to turn i to the first point after you've installed the rom. So don't start installing things right away...first try a few roms 'cause you might like another one better.
Last but not least, the radio, well my friend you'll just have to read about it 'cause it depends on your region etc. That one can be flashed after you've done the first 2 steps and it basically goes the same way as flashing a rom. But first things first...start your search for hardspl!
I've taken all these steps for example from the topaz. Some devices might have other routines,...i focus on my device only, 'cause otherwise it's just too much info.. and all the info that's on this forum might be confusing at first (let's face it, there's a lot of info.) But nevertheless, my experience is that people are willing to help others here. There's a solution for everything here, if you know how and where to look.
Start reading and have fun...

.joeri. said:
I think I installed EzInput now, but I don't see any change of the keyboard...
Do I have to change a setting or something else?
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Open up your standard keyboard (in SMS for example), click on the small arrow next to the middle keyboard icon and go to "Other input options".
EzInput should be listed there, select it and youÆre good to go!
If you wish to set EzInput as default keyboard, even after restart of your device, use SIP change application. Remember to set the time-delay to 40-50 seconds!
Here are some linx to freeware keyboards;
FingerKeyboard2 Awesome KeyBoard!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3575714#post3575714
Click link below, goto Mobile, find FlashKey 1.2b and Half-K v1.1 and download both. Know they're Flash based!
http://twolf.sytes.net/
PDAMill TopKey
http://www.pdamill.com/prod_tk.shtml
PocketCM Keyboard
http://www.pocketcm.com/keyboard2.php
Euro KeyBoard
http://sourceforge.net/projects/eurokbd/
FAT KeyBoard
http://sourceforge.net/projects/fatsip/
.. Well that's it, hope this helps