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I use advanced task killer and minutes later I see MP3 Store, and Messages running. Before I saw a few others. Are they set to start running in memory for some reason? Not sure if they eat up much juice, but I wonder if I can make a list of certain ones and disable their start up somehow. Is there a task killter that blocks startups?
same here we need something to block these apps
Messages is required to recieve MMS (Even if you use handcent or chomp or something else as your main client). We tried removing that once in the hero forums and it caused ALL sorts of problems and force closes)
The mp3 store is usually ok to remove though.
thecodemonk said:
Messages is required to recieve MMS (Even if you use handcent or chomp or something else as your main client). We tried removing that once in the hero forums and it caused ALL sorts of problems and force closes)
The mp3 store is usually ok to remove though.
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Thanks codemonk,
Do you know that setting in advance task killer is that says "auto kill level"? It is set to disable now, but what does it do? Thanks.
jeffrimerman said:
Thanks codemonk,
Do you know that setting in advance task killer is that says "auto kill level"? It is set to disable now, but what does it do? Thanks.
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I'm not sure...I avoid task killers as a rule (I installed one earlier to test something for an earlier thread and uninstalled afterwards once I got my info).
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/ - This should provide some good info on it.
The better solution, especially for apps that you don't intend on using, is uninstalling the app (there's a whole thread talking about which ones are safe to remove).
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I'm not sure...I avoid task killers as a rule (I installed one earlier to test something for an earlier thread and uninstalled afterwards once I got my info).
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/ - This should provide some good info on it.
The better solution, especially for apps that you don't intend on using, is uninstalling the app (there's a whole thread talking about which ones are safe to remove).
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yeah, that is a great idea. I imagine if I wanted it back I could just install it again. Thanks Codemonk.
Why do you need those apps not running? Android will kill them if it needs more memory.
Why are people obsessed with killing stuff? It's not like your phone runs better with 192mb of free memory vs 163mb...
it actually does, as well as lets the battery last longer since it isnt using as much processing power
Nagrom Nniuq said:
Why do you need those apps not running? Android will kill them if it needs more memory.
Why are people obsessed with killing stuff? It's not like your phone runs better with 192mb of free memory vs 163mb...
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Let the phone run for a good 12 hours. I was down to 42MB free basically idling and only using Handcent. Killed a few tasks and back up to 175 and everything is snappy again.
I don't like having to use a task killer, I didn't have to with my N1.
maybe there will be an app like Scotty for windows 7. I check and a bunch of bloatware starts on it's own. It's all marketing bs. When there is a nice root stripped down, with all the nice stuff enabled I'll do that.
download startup auditor from the market. great little app to select and unselect which apps you want to load when the phone powers up. only costs $0.99 usd
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download startup auditor from the market. great little app to select and unselect which apps you want to load when the phone powers up. only costs $0.99 usd
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So if I leave it to no apps, will it load up with 0 apps running? Will it also prevent apps from randomly starting after phone is already on? Sounds like a nice app.
Unless startup auditor disables the service there is a list of apps that will randomly start up at times. I went into the application settings and apps like MP3 store don't have an option to uninstall.
I have used task killer to kill all apps and within minutes some start again.
"thecodemonk" why do you not use a task killer. I have only had an Android phone about 24 hours now and got a lot to learn.
First thing being how to enable tethering.
I have mine set to "safe" and it auto closes things when screen goes black.
Make sure you "IGNORE" certain apps... like the clock or else your alarm wont work... I almost over slept
I have the following set to ignore:
Messages
Handcent
clock
gmail
Mort Music player
Fastbright
Check out the application "Autokiller." This comes with preset values (optimum, moderate, aggressive, etc.) so that apps will be killed off once your free memory drops below a certain point. This app works great, but it does REQUIRE root to function and must be rebooted to finish applying the settings. Also lists all apps, processes, and services which can be killed off manually as well.
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Check out the application "Autokiller." This comes with preset values (optimum, moderate, aggressive, etc.) so that apps will be killed off once your free memory drops below a certain point. This app works great, but it does REQUIRE root to function and must be rebooted to finish applying the settings. Also lists all apps, processes, and services which can be killed off manually as well.
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I've been trying to find AutoKiller, yet I can't find it in the market. Is it here on the forums?
Fixter said:
I've been trying to find AutoKiller, yet I can't find it in the market. Is it here on the forums?
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It is in market, search "autokiller". Requires root access, but I can confirm it is working fine.
Wanted to add that I am annoyed by programs that I never intend to use running in the background. From recovery I used Android Commander to quickly select and delete every .apk in /system/app that I never wanted to see again.
Helo guys saw this topic and was over at androidcentral and saw this article which talks about an app that would kill any app that autostarts.
won't let me post links as i'm a new user, but go to androidcentral and look for the article about the app autostarts or just google "autostarts"
using task panel to kill the "junk" like amazon and mp3 store- also any program that doesnt attach itself to things like facebook or messages - i use skyfire so i have set that to autokill but leave the "internet" running..
i also use this to switch between apps running.. having to hit back back back or even going to home then program list then finding it is a long process.. for example ...
i get a handcent message - go into the threaded sms- type and im done - holding down the home screen doesnt pop all the programs up - therfor i set task panel up to stay on my status bar and hit it then go to the program i want.
Which Taskmanager/Task Killer/Task Cleaner App do you guys think is best all around?
I was using Advanced Task Killer, but I believe it was responsible for logging me out on my X10.
None, let the OS handle the tasks it's not Windows.
ClintonH said:
None, let the OS handle the tasks it's not Windows.
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Completely agree. I donnot use any type of task killer and the system is going quite well.
You must use, because, on the start, ther many applications are launched unless you need, like maps, without kill, on the start the X10 have 120Mo of free RAM MEM, after some application used, there only 80Mo...
With a task killer, on the start, there 170 Mo, after some appli used, there 120/130 mo...
I use "Advanced Task Killer", it not free, and it is for advanced users (not really friendly user, and tachnical...)
Really, I should try it without one for a while and see. I was under the impression that it really is required. Because some apps can take up a lot of memory. Or will the OS control it?
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Don't run a task killer, it will drain the battery faster as some applications will have to restart.
Use an app switcher instead, it will show you the apps that are currently running as opposed to dormant.
The Android OS does a great job managing the apps on its own.
Systempanel, cause it's good for monitoring too.
tjex said:
Don't run a task killer, it will drain the battery faster as some applications will have to restart.
Use an app switcher instead, it will show you the apps that are currently running as opposed to dormant.
The Android OS does a great job managing the apps on its own.
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I guess your battery cannot stay long for a day (moderate user )
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I was using Advanced Task Killer, but I believe it was responsible for logging me out on my X10.
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I think that you kill phone.apk service...
It's like when you do a titanium backup, it kills this service, and do his backup, but then, you'll have to re-connect and re-tape your pin code...
I'm using it, and i'm very happy of his work...
tjex said:
Don't run a task killer, it will drain the battery faster as some applications will have to restart.
Use an app switcher instead, it will show you the apps that are currently running as opposed to dormant.
The Android OS does a great job managing the apps on its own.
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Ok, but what app switcher do you use?
I use EStrongs Task Manager, but never let it auto kill or anything. Just have it for that occasion when an app freaks out.
I recently upgraded my ATT Captivate to 2.2. I now have a problem with apps starting up on there own even though I've going into apps management and have killed them. I even have app killer and its not automatically killing the apps. These aren't the att apps, these are apps that I've installed.
How can I prevent apps from starting back up. Its killing my battery life.
Thanks
dirk1965 said:
I recently upgraded my ATT Captivate to 2.2. I now have a problem with apps starting up on there own even though I've going into apps management and have killed them. I even have app killer and its not automatically killing the apps. These aren't the att apps, these are apps that I've installed.
How can I prevent apps from starting back up. Its killing my battery life.
Thanks
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Get os monitor and check how much mem they use. If u see one that is always over 20%, uninstall it.
Also u can stop ur running services.
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What BW said. Don't worry about them in there unless you find one using up too much battery/resources. They won't drain your battery unless it's a bad app.
BWolf56 said:
Get os monitor abd check how much mem they use. If u see one that is always over 20%, uninstall it.
Also u can stop ur running services.
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I have also stopped the services for the apps that are restarting, and they keep coming back like bad mexican food.
dirk1965 said:
I have also stopped the services for the apps that are restarting, and they keep coming back like bad mexican food.
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You could try unistalling your task killer and getting Advanced Task Killer (it's the one I personnaly use). Now killing a app won't stop it from restarting, you usually fix that in your running services. Also make sure that these apps arent widgets - in that case they will always restart
BWolf56 said:
You could try unistalling your task killer and getting Advanced Task Killer (it's the one I personnaly use). Now killing a app won't stop it from restarting, you usually fix that in your running services. Also make sure that these apps arent widgets - in that case they will always restart
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Actually, its Advanced Task Killer that I have installed. Yes, I totally understand apps vs. services. I'm stopping the services for the apps that have restarted, yet they continue to restart after the service has been killed. These apps are definitely not widgets.
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Actually, its Advanced Task Killer that I have installed. Yes, I totally understand apps vs. services. I'm stopping the services for the apps that have restarted, yet they continue to restart after the service has been killed. These apps are definitely not widgets.
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Umm, may I ask what are these apps?
The only app that takes couple tries for me to stop if the facebook one. Also, some app are made to constinusly refresh and get info from the internet. If that's the case with your apps, block their internet connection or change their settings to have it refresh manually.
Also, you can tell some apps not to start on boot up - that might temporaly fix your problem.
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Umm, may I ask what are these apps?
The only app that takes couple tries for me to stop if the facebook one. Also, some app are made to constinusly refresh and get info from the internet. If that's the case with your apps, block their internet connection or change their settings to have it refresh manually.
Also, you can tell some apps not to start on boot up - that might temporaly fix your problem.
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Apps like Google Maps, ColorNote, Daily Briefing and others. Its very random what apps decide to start.
dirk1965 said:
Apps like Google Maps, ColorNote, Daily Briefing and others. Its very random what apps decide to start.
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I duno about colornote but as for the others, they automaticly refresh using the internet and so like I said in my other post, you have to set it so the either can't access the internet (might as well unistall them in that case) or set their refresh to manual so it only refreshes when you "tap" on them.
Google maps refreshes for your location. That one will be a pain especially if you have the gps on.
If you get over a day of battery life with moderate usage and that you like these app, then I'd say to just live with it. If it's not the case, I suggest getting rid of them but if OS Monitor doesn't show them using your mem/battery, then they don't actually do/change much.
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I duno about colornote but as for the others, they automaticly refresh using the internet and so like I said in my other post, you have to set it so the either can't access the internet (might as well unistall them in that case) or set their refresh to manual so it only refreshes when you "tap" on them.
Google maps refreshes for your location. That one will be a pain especially if you have the gps on.
If you get over a day of battery life with moderate usage and that you like these app, then I'd say to just live with it. If it's not the case, I suggest getting rid of them but if OS Monitor doesn't show them using your mem/battery, then they don't actually do/change much.
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Okay, I'm with you. So where exactly do you set apps to refresh manually?
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Okay, I'm with you. So where exactly do you set apps to refresh manually?
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once on the app, hit your menu button (bottom left one ) and you should have a setting option - each app will be different but it mostly comes to the same thing. Also if you don't have any menu option, there should be a (i) kind of image/icon somewhere in the main app page but these are rare. Most app will have their setting menu.
Thanks. I'll try it and see what happens.
nice conversation, very informative. thanks guys
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lyrad12 said:
nice conversation, very informative. thanks guys
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Glad I could help
Guys, how to automatically turn off the running application?
I feel very upset because my application like Maps, Market, Gmail, etc, always automatically running without my permission.
Because of that, i always manually kill that apps with Task Killer. But, not much later, it was running again!!!! Please help me guys, How to automatically turn off the apps? and never running again without my permission
u dont have to close those apps...doing so would result in wasted battery life as the app/process would start again on its own...
using task killers is NOT AT ALL advisable on android 2.2+, because android has ram management built in...
kill (better if u uninstall) only rogue apps, like i had this wallpaper app which used to constantly start by itself, and i was better off unistalling it....rather than killing it every time it started...
and its not advisable to uninstall google apps like gmail and maps, and these will keep running passively in the background...and they are harmless...so no reason to worry about them....
try using titanium backup...freeze the apps you dont want to run(works only on titanium backup premium...
i think this might help
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u dont have to close those apps...doing so would result in wasted battery life as the app/process would start again on its own...
using task killers is NOT AT ALL advisable on android 2.2+, because android has ram management built in...
kill (better if u uninstall) only rogue apps, like i had this wallpaper app which used to constantly start by itself, and i was better off unistalling it....rather than killing it every time it started...
and its not advisable to uninstall google apps like gmail and maps, and these will keep running passively in the background...and they are harmless...so no reason to worry about them....
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but, it can "eat" my ram performance right?
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but, it can "eat" my ram performance right?
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i didnt get you properly....ram performance on android (based on linux) is different than what it is on windows...
here ram in use is not neccessarily bad, because it manages ram differently....if any app actively requires ram, then android closes passive apps itself.....
and if ur phone feels laggy, then its because an app/process is actively using cpu, rather than ram...if you understand what i mean....
When you-they say that task killers are bad, you also mean the stock task killer every phone have? I am talking about the one you enable it by long pressing the back ( or other ) key and then just press clean to delete all running apps.
Every app we open it must be killed/hibernated in order not to consume ram and battery. So we must put ALL the programs in greenify hibernation mode? :S
I am a little confused.
I have an Oppo Find 7a.. Should i use greenify or system battery/app management? And how?
Also i've installed Gsam Battery Monitor, but it doesnt seem to work well.. Sometimes timer reset, other time the app closes itself..
Also i noticed that youtube app doesn't display on greenify apps. Why?
Yes when people say that appkillers should not be used they mean also the android default app killing software. And they are right when they are saying that. Installing extra app killing software to your phone just consumes memory and battery life
And what about greenify?
I noticed that when i open the cm browser, also facebook opens! There is a wake-up path called << AttributionIdProvider>> which i cut it off..
Also there is another wake-up path for facebook something like this << lollipop update service >>.. What is it??
Should i cut it off also?
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And what about greenify?
I noticed that when i open the cm browser, also facebook opens! There is a wake-up path called << AttributionIdProvider>> which i cut it off..
Also there is another wake-up path for facebook something like this << lollipop update service >>.. What is it??
Should i cut it off also?
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I have not used Greenify so I cannot say anything about the features. To be honest, looking at the apps description I cannot see that it does anything special but prevent the apps from behaving the way they are designed to. Some individual apps may be poorly designed or implemented and may consume more battery life than necessary. In most of the cases doing this kind of hibernating will not help at all.
Most users say that greenify works very well.. I am surprised that you never heard of this program.
And what about battery monitor program? Should i have it ran all time?
lazostat said:
Most users say that greenify works very well.. I am surprised that you never heard of this program.
And what about battery monitor program? Should i have it ran all time?
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The purpose of battery monitor apps is to give you detailed information about battery consumption. You for example identify if some individual app is consuming too much battery for some reason. If you do not do anything with this information, there is no reason to keep the monitor app running.
The default closing of apps in the app drawer does not kill the app properly. Greenify completely stops the app via the app info or with root. All apps have to be hibernated in order to not consume battery but you should not hibernate apps that you want to have running in the background like whatsapp, hangouts, vpn, apps whose widgets you use etc. Youtube can not be hibernated because it is a preinstalled system app and these can only be hibernated if you pay for the Greenify donation package(which you absolutely should). For the Battery info app it depends on how it measures your battery usage. Try to hibernate it if it doest measure your battery stats remove it from the list again.
The more ram uses a program process background, the more battery it drains?
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The more ram uses a program process background, the more battery it drains?
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Not necessarily. But it's a good indicator. The most battery is consumed by internet traffic and the CPU/GPU when the display isn't on.