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As above, anyone using higher capacity battery for their HTC Desire and it is tested and proven to last longer than the original batter? Can post the link to purchase the battery?
Thanks!
Before you buy another battery, have you read this thread about calibrating your battery?
And have you installed a rom that allows underclocking? It makes a massive difference.
I am now getting 20+ hours from my phone where as before underclocking I was getting 8 hours.
Same amount of usage, just underclocking when screen is off.
Erm.. I will go read about it, but because I want to retain as it is now, thats why I'm looking for an extended battery.
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Erm.. I will go read about it, but because I want to retain as it is now, thats why I'm looking for an extended battery.
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What kind of battery life do you currently get? Before (accidentally) calibrating my battery I was getting around 10-12 hours, now I'm getting around 36-42 hours.
I'm looking for one that can last me more than 1 day.
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And have you installed a rom that allows underclocking? It makes a massive difference.
I am now getting 20+ hours from my phone where as before underclocking I was getting 8 hours.
Same amount of usage, just underclocking when screen is off.
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Hey buddy, which app do you use for underclocking? Cheers,
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I'm looking for one that can last me more than 1 day.
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Well, I'm using the standard battery and have 26% remaining with "1d 10h" since unplugged (admittedly I haven't used the phone for that much in that time, just some internet usage, a couple of calls, but it's been constantly on WiFi or 3G to sync GMail).
Use SetCPU for underclocking, and use JuiceDefender to automatically turn off your data connection while the screen's off/locked.
It will still reconnect every 15 minutes to sync, and will remain connected as long as there's any continuing 3G traffic while the screen's off. Basically what it means is you're running one of the most power-consuming parts of your device only 1/15th of the time, which make a big difference. Text messages and voice calls come through instantly still - only things requiring a data connection like facebook, weather, twitter, etc will have any delay, and even then it'll only be 15 minutes at the most.
You can also try setting your phone to WCDMA-only, which means it won't be constantly trying to connect and maintain two radios simultaneously. GSM-only would be even better but depending on your carrier it might not work at all or might only work for voice.
With SetCPU try making a profile to automatically go into "powersave" mode when the screen's off, which will ensure the CPU never clocks up past its minimum speed during that time. It's still over 200 mhz, more than enough for anything you might want to do in the background. For normal operation, between 499 and 768 mhz as the maximum clock, depending on your preference, should be adequate and will save you a little bit of battery life as well all the time.
Also, download a widget to allow you to manually set screen brightness when you're indoors and the auto setting is useless. I have my screen brightness set to 15% while indoors and it's still plenty bright. I have the SLCD model, I don't know if that makes any difference.
My phone has been off the charger for 17 hours and 10 minutes. During that time, the screen was on for 2 hours and 29 minutes. I'm at 79% battery life with the standard battery.
Mugen 3200mah. Mine lasts a day with ease and heavy use.
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Mugen 3200mah. Mine lasts a day with ease and heavy use.
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Yours able to charge it properly?
A small update to my previous post... I'm now at 32 hours, 38 minutes uptime, 4 hours 44 minutes awake time (screen on). Battery just reached 60 percent. Stock battery.
Remember when you made the choice to buy an Android, you were in effect saying you wanted to have a highly customizable miniature computer. Just like when you customize [insert your desktop OS of choice] to suit your taste, you need to configure your phone in order to get what you want out of it - namely, better battery life than with the standard settings.
HTC's goal with the Desire was to have a showpiece, it runs very fast and it looks good doing it. But they designed it with frequent charging in mind. Since most of us here, I imagine, would prefer to charge less often, we just need to configure the phone appropriately.
If you want a guaranteed solution, try this:
- Install NextSense rom (it's free, latest version right now is 5.3 AFAIK, I'm currently using 5.2 still)
- Install JuiceDefender - it's free on the market and its default settings are, for a change, very intelligent and effective.
- Install SetCPU - You can get it free on this forum. Set it to "interactive" mode with a bottom speed of 245 and a top speed of 806 to start with. The default is 998 at the top, but 200 mhz doesn't make a big difference in this case except to help battery life a bit. Once installed, add a profile for "screen off" which sets the phone to "powersave" mode. This will keep it running at the minimum clock any time you're not using it. Nothing running in the background while you're not even using the phone requires more than the minimum CPU speed.
- Install the Brightness Widget by Curvefish. It's free on the market. Put its widget on your desktop and keep your screen brightness at 25% while you're indoors. 15% is what I use, but 25% is one of the presets so it's a bit easier. I have an SLCD display so the brightness I get on auto might just be different from what OLED gets on auto, I don't know, but in any case for me it's way brighter than it needs to be.
- Set your screen timeout to no more than 2 minutes
- Make sure any apps that sync data do so in a reasonable interval. +/- 15 minutes won't ruin your day for most things.
- Under Wireless & Networks, set your phone's connection to WCDMA-only (3G-only). For many people this results in an increase to both signal quality and battery life, since it allows your phone to only run one radio at a time, making a significant difference. If it doesn't work for you, it's as simple as turning it back to the default setting.
- Disable haptic feedback and see if you mind the difference. Making all those little vibrations takes power too.
- Finally (obviously) don't run a live background, but you probably already know that.
Doing all of the above takes an hour or maybe two at most to set up and the difference in battery life is tremendous. It's simple to do, I worked out all of the above on my own and I've literally only had the phone for 4 days now I think, never touched a smartphone before in my life let alone an Android.
Give it a try, you have nothing to lose, and it will probably save you needing to buy a battery. Or, if you still buy a double-capacity battery, it'll mean you can run for like a week on a charge.
edit: also make sure to get the latest version of the radio driver, I don't have a frame of reference for comparison since I updated mine right away, but apparently it makes a fair bit of difference and probably gives you a more reliable cell signal in the process.
In case you think I'm exaggerating, here are some pics I just took.
What's the ideal settings for juice defender? Cos my phone is not rooted so I'm not going to use the SetCPU application.
What do you mean charge properly ??
Is it able to charge?
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What's the ideal settings for juice defender? Cos my phone is not rooted so I'm not going to use the SetCPU application.
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"Ideal" settings are basically the way it's configured by default. You can't improve upon them much even by getting the "premium" upgrade unless your phone is rooted... but SetCPU is a better choice in that case anyway.
Just install it, hit "enable" after it's done auto-detecting your phone's capabilities, and you're done. It's really that simple.
Be sure to add it to your task killer exclusion list if you use one.
You saying the default option is for SetCPU or Juicedefender?
So just download the free juicedefender is good enough for me already since the pro version is more for rooted phones? (mine is not rooted)
Can somebody pls. post the link to SetCPU?
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Can somebody pls. post the link to SetCPU?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419
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So just download the free juicedefender is good enough for me already since the pro version is more for rooted phones? (mine is not rooted)
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Yes exactly. The pro version unlocks some more customization but ultimately won't add a whole lot to your battery life no matter how it's set up. I mean, beyond what the "regular" version does.
I've always read in the past that the app doesnt actually help with battery life because its purpose was for OCing and Android regulates the cpu clocks already.
So I'm wondering, for those currently using it, have you noticed any difference in battery life (without underclocking while in use)? and if so what profiles are you using?
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I've always read in the past that the app doesnt actually help with battery life because its purpose was for OCing and Android regulates the cpu clocks already.
So I'm wondering, for those currently using it, have you noticed any difference in battery life (without underclocking while in use)? and if so what profiles are you using?
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I have just one profile, screen off= 216/216. I'm now on 14 hours with 30% left. Much better than before, when I was getting 11 hours at the most.
I also use the battery calibration app. But that's all I've done.
Just want to add I use wifi calling, and I run everything else, gps and syncing gmail and facebook is on. Screen is set to auto brightness. The only thing I have off is bluetooth.
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I have just one profile, screen off= 216/216. I'm now on 14 hours with 30% left. Much better than before, when I was getting 11 hours at the most.
I also use the battery calibration app. But that's all I've done.
Just want to add I use wifi calling, and I run everything else, gps and syncing gmail and facebook is on. Screen is set to auto brightness. The only thing I have off is bluetooth.
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I do the same.. just 1 screen off profile to underclock it to 216/216 when the screen is off
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I've always read in the past that the app doesnt actually help with battery life because its purpose was for OCing and Android regulates the cpu clocks already.
So I'm wondering, for those currently using it, have you noticed any difference in battery life (without underclocking while in use)? and if so what profiles are you using?
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Android does regulate the cpu, but I don't think it will take advantage of more conservative governor modes unless you tell it to. That's only relevant if the kernel supports more conservative governor modes. And, as the other responses have pointed out, you can force Android to be more conservative by capping the max clock speed.
Hmm... Guess its worth a shot. Good lookin out guys.
when i go into setcpu there are alot of options to choose there is no auto detect like on my mytouch 4g. how did you guys get it to work. i picked the last option which was custom and it forced close on me.
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when i go into setcpu there are alot of options to choose there is no auto detect like on my mytouch 4g. how did you guys get it to work. i picked the last option which was custom and it forced close on me.
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Yeah.. When I hit the tegra 2 option it wont let me change the governor.
You need to be rooted so that you can let set CPU have super user access. Are you rooted yet?
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Yeah.. When I hit the tegra 2 option it wont let me change the governor.
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I think that that means that the kernel is not supported for the "automatic" governors. However, you can still create profiles to regulate the CPU based on perameters that you set, i.e. Screen off 216/216
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I think that that means that the kernel is not supported for the "automatic" governors. However, you can still create profiles to regulate the CPU based on perameters that you set, i.e. Screen off 216/216
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So all G2x see the same in setcpu - no autodetect and only governor available is "driver"?
Will custom ROMs like CM7 change this?
SetCPU improved my battery life tremendously! Before I was losing about 15-30% and hour, since 8:30 this morning my battery only dropped to 73%. I set my active profile between 457mhz and 816mhz depending on remaining battery and it's still fast as hell.
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So all G2x see the same in setcpu - no autodetect and only governor available is "driver"?
Will custom ROMs like CM7 change this?
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From what I've heard, yes, that is what every g2x setcpu user sees. I don't know whether CM7 will fix this, or maybe later versions of setcpu
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From what I've heard, yes, that is what every g2x setcpu user sees. I don't know whether CM7 will fix this, or maybe later versions of setcpu
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Once we get some custom kernels, we should be able to change the governors in setCPU, dependent upon on what the kernel supports.
SetCPU Custom Frequencies for G2X
I got SetCPU today and was playing around with it and it looked like it was limiting my CPU all the time due to lack of profile, not just when I had the screen off per my profile so I looked into making a text file for custom frequencies and am posting it here since there doesn't seem to be any help for g2x with it.
This is a really simple file, tell me if you guys have any better ideas, I just put in:
216000,528000,712400,1000000
I'm attaching it. I put the file in my dropbox, grabbed it via the app and then moved it to /sdcard/setcpu.txt via astro file manager then loaded custom profile from within setcpu. Hopefully this saves someone some time or you can tell me if I'm going about this the wrong way
I'm sure it could be fine tuned more but I was getting irritated at how much of a pain it was to unlock the phone with it set too low, so for screen off I have it set to 216->528. You could add 254000 in or something. The phone seems to be as usable as before now with setcpu enabled like this while it should be limiting the cpu when the screen is off. It sucked (well not the battery) without a custom profile.
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You need to be rooted so that you can let set CPU have super user access. Are you rooted yet?
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rooted?????? what is that?
TheMightiest1981 said:
SetCPU improved my battery life tremendously! Before I was losing about 15-30% and hour, since 8:30 this morning my battery only dropped to 73%. I set my active profile between 457mhz and 816mhz depending on remaining battery and it's still fast as hell.
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Yep, I agree. My phone has been off the charger for almost 9 hours, and I'm at 70%.
I have everything on, including wifi calling, and one profile in Setcpu for screen off 216/216.
Also used the battery calibration app.
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Yep, I agree. My phone has been off the charger for almost 9 hours, and I'm at 70%.
I have everything on, including wifi calling, and one profile in Setcpu for screen off 216/216.
Also used the battery calibration app.
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Im assuming u did little to no use. I did moderate use and im down to 52% after 4hrs
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I tried that 216/216 profile and got the sleep of death followed by reboot loop every few minutes after the phone booted. wouldn't stop till I manually powered the phone down then back on. oh well... my phone idles fine anyway. wonder what clock speed android idles at by default.
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Im assuming u did little to no use. I did moderate use and im down to 52% after 4hrs
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Actually, your assumption is wrong, as is often the case.
I'd quantify it more as normal use. Lots of texts, some games of Pro pool, a few phone calls, checking Pulse 3-4 times during the day for 10 minutes at a time, some mild web browsing and watching a few youtube videos.
I ended up at around 18-19 hours of of use.
Today, I'm off the charger for 8 hours, and I still have 45% left, and I would say that's with some moderate to heavy use.
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I tried that 216/216 profile and got the sleep of death followed by reboot loop every few minutes after the phone booted. wouldn't stop till I manually powered the phone down then back on. oh well... my phone idles fine anyway. wonder what clock speed android idles at by default.
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Try upping it to 216/312 or a tad higher and you should be fine.
Hey guys, i 've been using setcpu for a while and the widget too. Usually, my phone's temperature is 30-35 C. My question is how much heat can this phone take? What us the optimal temperature? What is the Max temperature you have ever seen?
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well desire s and desire hd got same cpu, and my dhd went unstable when it hit more than 55°C so i would use at least a temp > 50°C profile with taking speed down
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well desire s and desire hd got same cpu, and my dhd went unstable when it hit more than 55°C so i would use at least a temp > 50°C profile with taking speed down
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I'm more cautious and limit the CPU to normal (stock) running speeds parameters when it hits 40°C and then lower the max further if it ever reaches 45°C.
I thought with the newest update of LBC's ROM you shouldn't be using SetCPU as it disables the new virtuous overclocking daemon? I'm running the Virtuous Unity ROM on my DS. IMHO, the battery life is great compared to Coredroid v1.2 with SetCPU. Not sure if it has any settings for temperature like SetCPU though..
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I thought with the newest update of LBC's ROM you shouldn't be using SetCPU as it disables the new virtuous overclocking daemon? I'm running the Virtuous Unity ROM on my DS. IMHO, the battery life is great compared to Coredroid v1.2 with SetCPU. Not sure if it has any settings for temperature like SetCPU though..
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You are quite correct, I only upgraded to the latest version of LBC v0.5.2 earlier this afternoon and as the install instructions recommended promptly un-installed setCPU.
Too early to tell anything...............
Hoping that next version of the virtuous O/C Daemon will incorporate temp and battery profile switching.
They're talking of using a GUI in the future for this feature, fingers crossed it'll have the extra settings! Once you've run LBC for a couple of days any chance you could post how you're battery life is getting on?
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They're talking of using a GUI in the future for this feature, fingers crossed it'll have the extra settings! Once you've run LBC for a couple of days any chance you could post how you're battery life is getting on?
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Yep, I read that and I'm hoping that they incorporate criteria like setCPU does, the phone is certainly more responsive from lock screen which is a great improvement.
I'll happily report back, but, it usually totally depends on how much use I give the phone during the day which varies massively, I also have a mugen high capacity battery 1800mAh high capacity battery.
If I don't touch the phone, it will loose just 10-20% over the day, even less if I'm at home and only have wifi on, where as other days I stream radio for an hour and use the internet XDA a lot and it looses 50-60% over the day.
I also use the great application tasker to automate the switching of my radios and don't have auto sync enabled. I simply sync first thing in the morning, at lunch and in the late afternoon.
If I notice any significant change from v0.5.1 I'll re-post.
original RUU_Saga_FET_TW_1.31.950.2_R_Radio_20.28b.30.0805U_38.03.02.14_M_release_180347_signed
and the highest temperature is 48.6°C
I have a Nexus S with CM7.1 and I am using the Glados Kernel v1.10 BFS.... I have my clock speed from 100-1000 on conservative... my questions are, what does this do? How do I do it? And how much battery life can I usually save? I searched it up, and I haven't really found too much stuff in depth. Thanks
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I'm not sure anyone's even done any extensive testing, but I can tell you that kernels such as the Trinity SEUV kernel have a serious increase in batt life.
I'm talking 8+ hrs extra probably, at least. Now each person is different, so light users like myself will benefit more, but the difference is definitely noticeable.
That being said, it depends on the kernel you use, and how often you use your phone.
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I'm not sure anyone's even done any extensive testing, but I can tell you that kernels such as the Trinity SEUV kernel have a serious increase in batt life.
I'm talking 8+ hrs extra probably, at least. Now each person is different, so light users like myself will benefit more, but the difference is definitely noticeable.
That being said, it depends on the kernel you use, and how often you use your phone.
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In the building I go to school in has nearly no service. I get edge at most when I find a spot, I had GPS on, brightness mid and all the same clock speeds.... my Vibrant got more battery life with the same clock speed on CM7, I had 27 when I left, I usually get 60something on my Vibrant. So what should I do, and how can I underclothing my device using setcpu?
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unvervolting , as you can see from this word , under --- voltage
battery output juice to hardware such as CPU , screen , antenna ... etc
let me make an exemple , let's assume one battery has "1500" juice , if you output 50 juices per hour , then you can last about 30 hours , follow me ?
unvervolting reduces this output juice , let's say , down to 45 juice (you can not reduce too much due to stability and something like that) , then you battery can last about 33.33 hours , this additional 3.33 hours comparing to 30 hours , is extra battery life you got by undervolting .
of course this is not exactly how it works , but more or less, i think you can take the idea of it.
duration of your battery is very much depending on your usage.
3G data connection and GPS are battery killer , i have brainmaster's MIUI + franco kernel , 100% battery = 2 hours 3G data = 1.5 hours GPS navagation.
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unvervolting , as you can see from this word , under --- voltage
battery output juice to hardware such as CPU , screen , antenna ... etc
let me make an exemple , let's assume one battery has "1500" juice , if you output 50 juices per hour , then you can last about 30 hours , follow me ?
unvervolting reduces this output juice , let's say , down to 45 juice (you can not reduce too much due to stability and something like that) , then you battery can last about 33.33 hours , this additional 3.33 hours comparing to 30 hours , is extra battery life you got by undervolting .
of course this is not exactly how it works , but more or less, i think you can take the idea of it.
duration of your battery is very much depending on your usage.
3G data connection and GPS are battery killer , i have brainmaster's MIUI + franco kernel , 100% battery = 2 hours 3G data = 1.5 hours GPS navagation.
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At what level should I start undervolting? I have it at 800mhz with 1125MV on lazy, is that fine to start with? I keep rising it each time it crashes on me( I started from 1025, worked my way up when I got random freezes). Do you recommend another kernel or something? I want the most power with the most performance. I heard Trinity was good but I may need to revert back to stock because the thread advised me to flash from stock for the most promising experience.
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At what level should I start undervolting? I have it at 800mhz with 1125MV on lazy, is that fine to start with? I keep rising it each time it crashes on me( I started from 1025, worked my way up when I got random freezes). Do you recommend another kernel or something? I want the most power with the most performance. I heard Trinity was good but I may need to revert back to stock because the thread advised me to flash from stock for the most promising experience.
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Here are my settings, once again, good starting point.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19258876&postcount=1889
Some users reported that they had to bump 100 and 200MHz to 900mv and 400MHz to 950mv. To each their own, we all have different phones.
i have been doing affect of various variables including uv on battery life...
by changing one variable at the time..
in my testin.. undervolting actually made battery drain worse...
http://caleb1783.tistory.com/258
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Here are my settings, once again, good starting point.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19258876&postcount=1889
Some users reported that they had to bump 100 and 200MHz to 900mv and 400MHz to 950mv. To each their own, we all have different phones.
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I'm sorry, but I fail to see where exactly you've proven that undervolting gives a higher battery drain in those tests.
Your methodology isn't scientific enough, although decently documented you have different usage patterns depending on the day. Sometimes you're playing a game and browsing the internet, others you're just idling all day.
On the undervolt test with Franco 25112011 kernel, your undervolt isn't even stable, leading to a reboot during a game and a battery stats "bug". Your screen was on 26 minutes more. Just the fact your undervolt isn't stable will make your battery drain faster. There's not only reboots and force closes as symptoms to an unstable undervolt.
The good way to test it would be by using a much more controlled environment and test patterns. Airplane mode can be used so as not to suffer from a bad reception or receive text messages/calls, a task (or multiple tasks) can be ran for a very specific amount of time, no user input other than starting the task and stopping the task should be done and the undervolt should be deemed stable.
Anyway, I can and will vouch for undervolting components, whether on a smartphone or a computer. I'm sure Trinity kernel users would agree too.
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At what level should I start undervolting? I have it at 800mhz with 1125MV on lazy, is that fine to start with? I keep rising it each time it crashes on me( I started from 1025, worked my way up when I got random freezes). Do you recommend another kernel or something? I want the most power with the most performance. I heard Trinity was good but I may need to revert back to stock because the thread advised me to flash from stock for the most promising experience.
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personally , i don't use undervolting , because it doesn't really effect too much on battery life
i didn't actually try , but i think undervolting could give you maximo extra few hours of battery life .
i'm using franco kernel , and 100 - 1000 with lazy governor
you minim should be 100 , 800 is not necessary
and for 1 GHz CPU , handle normal processing is enough
and i do think , that screen takes more juices than CPU ...
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i suggest you should try my way , buy an extra battery piece , then you won't worry about battery life any more ...
like me , i have to use phone very carefully back the time i didn't have second battery , sometimes i got out home about 8:00 AM ,and got back like 8:00 PM , when i back home , battery is nearly dead ... less than 10% .... = =
but now , i have second battery , i can use my phone whatever and whenever i want ...
i am in Spain , battery cost me 8 euros , if you can't find Nexus S battery , you can also buy Samsung i900's battery.
watch out , i900 , not i9000 , it's same battery , can be pluged-in in battery slot.
so , why did you waste days and days to search , to test , to set , to ask in order to get more battery if you can solve this problem with only 8 euors ???
but ... for real , these undervolting or overclock or underclock or what , does give you , hmm , how to say ? sense of fufillment , it's kinda good ^^
Some people enjoy travelling light, not having extra peripherals in their pockets and such. I already have enough stuff with my phone, keys and money clip without wanting to bring a battery somewhere in my dressy pants.
I read somewhere (and i think it was in this forum) that for the Nexus S the profile in SetCPU should be ondemand or conservative. I'm running Koush's Alpha 12, SetCPU "ondemand" and JuiceDefender Ultimate on "balanced". I've been on that for a week or so. I think the battery life is better than what i had running stock. I'm okay when the phone can make it through a day (like 16 hours) with normal use. I charge it at night anyway.
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I read somewhere (and i think it was in this forum) that for the Nexus S the profile in SetCPU should be ondemand or conservative. I'm running Koush's Alpha 12, SetCPU "ondemand" and JuiceDefender Ultimate on "balanced". I've been on that for a week or so. I think the battery life is better than what i had running stock. I'm okay when the phone can make it through a day (like 16 hours) with normal use. I charge it at night anyway.
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well , i think it depends on what kernel you use
some kernel's author would suggest what's best for his kernel.
also juicedefener or something , it's most likely by automatically shut down your unnecessary functions like GPS BT WIFI 2G/3G ...etc in order to save battery life.
i have been trying some of them , doesn't gimme much effect , probably it's just psychologic effect, you know , people would see what they want to see , also i have seen one application (Antutu something , i don't remember exact name) that reduces power output to hardware in order to save battery life , i think only that kinda applications can acutally save power...
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Some people enjoy travelling light, not having extra peripherals in their pockets and such. I already have enough stuff with my phone, keys and money clip without wanting to bring a battery somewhere in my dressy pants.
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i know , i do that when i have time , it does gimme sense of fulfillment , just like watch your work to be done .
it isn't about results , it's about journey you have been through
i don't know man , battery's size is just about 4.5 x 3.5 x 0.5 cm ... you really don't have that space for battery ... ?
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well , i think it depends on what kernel you use
some kernel's author would suggest what's best for his kernel.
also juicedefener or something , it's most likely by automatically shut down your unnecessary functions like GPS BT WIFI 2G/3G ...etc in order to save battery life.
i have been trying some of them , doesn't gimme much effect , probably it's just psychologic effect, you know , people would see what they want to see , also i have seen one application (Antutu something , i don't remember exact name) that reduces power output to hardware in order to save battery life , i think only that kinda applications can acutally save power...
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i know , i do that when i have time , it does gimme sense of fulfillment , just like watch your work to be done .
it isn't about results , it's about journey you have been through
i don't know man , battery's size is just about 4.5 x 3.5 x 0.5 cm ... you really don't have that space for battery ... ?
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Left pocket has my keys, my money clip with my cards and a pack of gum. Right pocket has my phone. Can't put anything worthy in back pockets, even less in dress pants.
What are common issues in installing Trinity over a kernel? I have Glados kernel so what would the side effects be?
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Smokexz said:
What are common issues in installing Trinity over a kernel? I have Glados kernel so what would the side effects be?
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it depends , look over your older kernel isntall zip file , check out if they put any files in directions (/system/lib , /system/modules , /system/vendor ...etc) , if so , delete them manually or check your new kernel zip file if it will overwrite the same named file ,in that case you don't have to detele these same named file because they will automatically be overwritten, otheriwse you do have to delete thoes file which won't be deleted or overwritten automatically.
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i always just directly flash it ... if comes problem i just reinstall the ROM in order to get clean system and then flash the kernel.
some kernel like GLADOS and FRANCO has script to clear older files
but , anyway , back up before install any thing that could effect on system.
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polobunny said:
Left pocket has my keys, my money clip with my cards and a pack of gum. Right pocket has my phone. Can't put anything worthy in back pockets, even less in dress pants.
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= = bro , doesn't your cloth have pocket ?
well , if you have protective case and screen protector on your phone , you can just put battery together with it
and you can put battery with your keys and other things.
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it depends , look over your older kernel isntall zip file , check out if they put any files in directions (/system/lib , /system/modules , /system/vendor ...etc) , if so , delete them manually or check your new kernel zip file if it will overwrite the same named file ,in that case you don't have to detele these same named file because they will automatically be overwritten, otheriwse you do have to delete thoes file which won't be deleted or overwritten automatically.
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i always just directly flash it ... if comes problem i just reinstall the ROM in order to get clean system and then flash the kernel.
some kernel like GLADOS and FRANCO has script to clear older files
but , anyway , back up before install any thing that could effect on system.
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= = bro , doesn't your cloth have pocket ?
well , if you have protective case and screen protector on your phone , you can just put battery together with it
and you can put battery with your keys and other things.
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Yeah I just did that and it broke the wifi. I went to factory settings and installed Trinity, going through my normal routine tomorrow and going to see how long the battery life goes, apparently the performance is great at 880mhz and the voltage is pretty low.
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qtwrk said:
it depends , look over your older kernel isntall zip file , check out if they put any files in directions (/system/lib , /system/modules , /system/vendor ...etc) , if so , delete them manually or check your new kernel zip file if it will overwrite the same named file ,in that case you don't have to detele these same named file because they will automatically be overwritten, otheriwse you do have to delete thoes file which won't be deleted or overwritten automatically.
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i always just directly flash it ... if comes problem i just reinstall the ROM in order to get clean system and then flash the kernel.
some kernel like GLADOS and FRANCO has script to clear older files
but , anyway , back up before install any thing that could effect on system.
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= = bro , doesn't your cloth have pocket ?
well , if you have protective case and screen protector on your phone , you can just put battery together with it
and you can put battery with your keys and other things.
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I sometimes have a dress shirt or a polo with an additional pocket. Nevertheless I like to travel light, buying a second battery, while a good idea, is a poor solution to an unoptimized system.
too much undervolting can and will cause more battery drain. there is a fine line that can be crossed from battery savings to battery loss. after a certain point, the phone will end up working harder to get where/what it needs because there isnt enough voltage, leading to the loss.
Smokexz said:
Yeah I just did that and it broke the wifi. I went to factory settings and installed Trinity, going through my normal routine tomorrow and going to see how long the battery life goes, apparently the performance is great at 880mhz and the voltage is pretty low.
Sent from my Xoom
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you must know
this minim is for screen luck status , when you are using your phone , system/CPU will automatically change it to adapt your processing , but when you screen is off , CPU should be running at minim in order to save juices
I can't take credit for any of the work here, I just modded the framework-res.apk and twframework.apk so that I could use the standard Gingerbread sliding tab lockscreen on my favorite ROM GingerClone. Thanks goes out to the Platypus Dev Team and everyone else involved in making this. The KJ2 Locks Mod does in fact work on GingerClone AS WELL AS OTHER ROMS, but it replaces a large portion of the theming elements of the UI with the ones from Glorious Overdose. I fixed this by modding the frameworks.
Call me crazy, but I'm a big fan of the standard Gingerbread interface, even on my old phone running CM7, I used the standard theme.
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-- Landscape tabs don't match portrait tabs
The only thing I've noticed so far is that the landscape lockscreen tabs do not match the portrait lockscreen tabs, but since the phone screen needs to be OPEN and locked for you to ever see this screen it shouldn't be a big deal. I've torn through the res files and can't seem to find the landscape lock tabs, so unless they're not images and are actually hard coded, I can't figure out where they're at. Maybe the dev could point me in the right direction?
Once again, I can't take credit for ANY of this. I just modded the work created by other people.
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Thanks man! So I'm assuming we have to flash this? And how are you getting a 2300+ score on quadrant? I tried tegrak and even at 1.1 it was freezing up my phone and doing the 1vib followed by 3vib when it didn't freeze it up.
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Thanks man! So I'm assuming we have to flash this? And how are you getting a 2300+ score on quadrant? I tried tegrak and even at 1.1 it was freezing up my phone and doing the 1vib followed by 3vib when it didn't freeze it up.
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try 1.2, that normally is pretty solid.
See I tried 1.2 but it froze even faster, and that's why I tried to downgrade to the 1.1
My q score suprised me too! First of all, it's the ROM. GingerClone is the only fully de-touchwized ROM available currently and it amazes me how well this device performs on a close to vanilla Android OS (especially for Froyo! I can only imagine that this phone would FLY with Gingerbread or ICS)
I OC'd using Tegrak to 1.125Ghz. Any higher and the system locks up on my phone regardless of ROM or kernel, but if I buy the full version of the app, I'm pretty sure I could get at least 1.4Ghz with overvolt. In the past I've noticed that especially refurbished phones can have issues with overclocking. My first LG Optimus could EASILY overclock up to 800+ Mhz stable, but I bricked it and the replacement they sent me was a refurb that couldn't handle more than 730Mhz and be stable.
But the real magic lies in using the latest version of V6 supercharger. I set mine to Aggressive 2. I had to run Quadrant a couple of times because I thought it was a glitch or a fluke the first time it broke 2000.
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Thanks man! So I'm assuming we have to flash this? And how are you getting a 2300+ score on quadrant? I tried tegrak and even at 1.1 it was freezing up my phone and doing the 1vib followed by 3vib when it didn't freeze it up.
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yeah, I forgot to mention that (figured it was self explanatory). You flash it in recovery.
I just flashed GingerCloneV2, I have not overclocked or supercharged, and my quadrant score was 2025. I ran it twice to be sure it wasnt a fluke. My phone has never even approached 2000 before. The highest score I have gotten prior to GC was 1695. This rom is crazy fast. Never would have imagined a rom based on kd1 could be this fast, considering the fact that supposedly kj2 is the most stable. I just flashed this, so I cant say if this rom is stable or not yet, but I hope it is. If it stays this fast AND its stable, then I wont even worry about overclock or supercharge.
yea same here, ran quadrant on stock gingerclone and got a 1950 and was like "whaaaaaat" its pretty awesome.
have tried supercharging it, with update 9 (and maybe thats where i'm going wrong), and after about an hour it begins to do the 1 buzz followed by 3 quickfire buzzes endlessly, and i'm forced to reinstall Gingerclone. do you guys think its because i should use update 8 for supercharger? its still blindingly fast though
edit: oh and i was wondering if there was some way to take that stupid "update social network" thing from the notification bar with this lockscreen mod? because it takes away the option under the display portion of the settings.
Thanks for the heads up on the lockscreen mod disabling the social status thing. Personally, I always left it on because when you turn it off you lose your power widgets in the drop down too. I know there are widgets that do the same thing, but aside from my launcher and the Google search widget I leave my desktop clean.
I'll have to look into the original framework from gingerclone and merge some of the code with the one from the lockscreen mod. I have some exams to study for this week, but I'll try to get around to it.
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try 1.2, that normally is pretty solid.
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assuming you're running the free version of Tegrak which only changes CPU clock, for the majority of SK4G phones running at 1.2Ghz will actually result in a net loss in performance over 1.1Ghz. Without upping the voltage along with the clock speed, the processor actually begins to encounter errors.
I run into the same thing on my PC. I can safely overclock to 3.0Ghz, and I'm more than capable of overclocking to 3.2, but performance rapidly degrades any higher than 3.01 Ghz without overvolting. At 3.0Ghz, my Geekbench score is around 6500, whereas at 3.02 it falls to under 3000, and at 3.2 it's at about 1200 (if you've never used Geekbench it uses a baseline score of 1000 which is equal to a 2005 PowerMac G5 dual core, and doubling the score means doubling the performance).
If I bump the voltage up from 1.25 to 1.3v, I can overclock even higher than 3.2Ghz, but my computer doesn't have adequate cooling for that and it overheats within about 5 minutes.
So as you can see, faster clock speed doesn't necessarily equate to having a faster phone, the exact opposite can be true. Overvolting would most definitely result in a performance spike, but keep in mind that there IS NO COOLING on a cell phone, not even a heat sink. Excessive heat can very rapidly damage your phone or even break it. Another thing to consider is that not all silicon is created equal especially when you're talking about CPUs.
Look at Intel for example, they sell the EXACT SAME cpu set at different clock speeds as a Celeron, Core2duo and Core2Extreme based on how the individual chip performed on a bench test. This is why overclocking is actually possible. sometimes you get lucky with a well manufactured CPU, and sometimes you end up with a dud that can barely perform at the clock speed it's rated at.
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Thanks for the heads up on the lockscreen mod disabling the social status thing. Personally, I always left it on because when you turn it off you lose your power widgets in the drop down too. I know there are widgets that do the same thing, but aside from my launcher and the Google search widget I leave my desktop clean.
I'll have to look into the original framework from gingerclone and merge some of the code with the one from the lockscreen mod. I have some exams to study for this week, but I'll try to get around to it.
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alright, cool. its not a make or break thing for me, i dont mind it that much. but thanks for even saying you'll try!