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Hi all,
I have been using o2 XDA and XDA II mini for many years , i tried almost all new phones with WM5/6 and i am very much sure that it does not serve my purpose and work.
Can I buy a new 02 / HTC touch dual or tytn and load windows 2003 on it.
I understand that i will loose warranty etc. but is it possible. pros & cons?
Can i do it ? how ?
thanks
roms are tailored 100% for a device
so if the device maker never made a 2003rom for a device
one would have to start from scratch and maybe
have to reverse engineer drivers if some were requied
and not available in a wm2003 model
Hi all,
I have been using o2 XDA and XDA II mini for many years , i tried almost all new phones with WM5/6 and i am very much sure that it does not serve my purpose and work.
Can I buy a new 02 / HTC touch dual or tytn and load windows 2003 on it.
I understand that i will loose warranty etc. but is it possible. pros & cons?
Can i do it ? how ?
thanks
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if someone really wants to spend money and energy he can,but it would be better to have wm5 or 6 for some devices like magician instead an overcomed 2003 for newer ones like touch dual, pharos,cruise,diamond
and by the way people developing os are trying to make a better os every time, and in most cases they do it, so you get better memory handling, better drivers...faster device if you want it that way
WOW! Why would you want to put a server OS on your phone? lol
leaskovski said:
WOW! Why would you want to put a server OS on your phone? lol
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windows mobile 2003 / 2003se
not windows 2003 server
shaileshmanjrekar said:
Hi all,
I have been using o2 XDA and XDA II mini for many years , i tried almost all new phones with WM5/6 and i am very much sure that it does not serve my purpose and work.
Can I buy a new 02 / HTC touch dual or tytn and load windows 2003 on it.
I understand that i will loose warranty etc. but is it possible. pros & cons?
Can i do it ? how ?
thanks
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do you have a specific for example compatibility problem with WM5+?
I have over 10,000 client contacts on my phone , I transferred data to couple of new phones with wm5 and wm6. All is well till I try to search. When i search for a contact it takes around 5 mins on new phones with wm5 and wm6 . It takes 3-4 secs on the the XDAII and XDA mini for the same. having tried many phones and tools , i assumed that the problem should be with OS. with improved graphics and whole lot of other features which take up the active resources may be the search module does not get all that is required.
MY xda mini 2003 / xda II 2002 have less features ,less graphics so they are faster is what i have concluded from all these experiments that i have done wit new phones.
Thanks
farukb said:
if someone really wants to spend money and energy he can,but it would be better to have wm5 or 6 for some devices like magician instead an overcomed 2003 for newer ones like touch dual, pharos,cruise,diamond
and by the way people developing os are trying to make a better os every time, and in most cases they do it, so you get better memory handling, better drivers...faster device if you want it that way
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If you compare the search tool with my kind of data, you will understand taht the new OS is not of any help to me. I agree , that there may be whole lot of new features and drivers , But search in a n integral part of the os and don't understand why that should change. and it works superb in earlier versions 3 secs V/s 5 mins to search.
Your problem is caused by a new way of working with memory in WM5+ systems. WM2003 used part of RAM as a storage medium for installed programs and also contact databases were located there. WM5+ uses internal flash instead. Data from flash doesn't disapear when you run out of battery juice. On the other hand it is a numerous times slower. However i cannot imagine the slowdown would have been so drastic. I would advise you trying the fastest possible device with lots of RAM (Samusng Omnia i900 or HTC Touch Diamond). It is possible the slowdown will be more acceptable. If it will be no success you can modify some ROM to use RamDisk as a storage medium. However, there are no new devices with WM2003 ROMs available.
That is the most convincing answer that i have got since last year when i started looking for replacement for my XDA.
After trying almost every new and latest PDAs in the market, I am sure that the new PDAs will not be any great help
BUT your statement - " Modify some ROM to use RamDisk as a storage medium." makes me hopeful.
Unfortunately, for novice like me it ends there. I don't know how modify ROMS, or any place where i can get it done. Even if i get one, i don't know how to load it. Tutorials did not help much, they were just too much technical. I may be a odd one in this developer forum, but this is only place where i think i can get the answer. I am just looking for PDA that is just equvialent to my XDA II and XDA mini
Many Thanks for your response
First of all let me start by apologizing for the type of help im about to ask
For the record I was a total noob on this regard but i searched and read quite a bit and I now feel more than comfortable to take the plunge and flash up a new rom on my QTEK 9100 after a one year rest due to a broken miniUSB plug i recently decided to fix with superglue
however im stuck on one aspect that I just cant decide.. I want WM6 or WM6.1 that is stable, snappier than my current WM5 and most of all TouchFlo with a cube just like my sister's HTC Touch Duo. That is basically what i need as my main use for the phone is SMS and general phonecalls and some light games or movies but i'll handle that later..
I've searched alot amidst the heaps of roms available but i can't decide on one to pick.. At first I was going for NBD 8.3 as I read alot of good stuff about it and it had all i wanted.. Then i realized though that it was quite old and started looking at some more recent releases but just couldnt pick one from all those features I have no clue about
So the question is:
Will I be fine with NBD 8.3? or should i try something else, more recent, that will perform better for my needs?
BTW I have a G4 QTEK 9100
Thanks in advance, and sorry for posting yet another one of these questions.. Even though Im aware that there is no *BEST* rom to use, I just need some advice and/or personal input as to one that will fill my needs nicely
hello friend
omninmo said:
First of all let me start by apologizing for the type of help im about to ask
For the record I was a total noob on this regard but i searched and read quite a bit and I now feel more than comfortable to take the plunge and flash up a new rom on my QTEK 9100 after a one year rest due to a broken miniUSB plug i recently decided to fix with superglue
however im stuck on one aspect that I just cant decide.. I want WM6 or WM6.1 that is stable, snappier than my current WM5 and most of all TouchFlo with a cube just like my sister's HTC Touch Duo. That is basically what i need as my main use for the phone is SMS and general phonecalls and some light games or movies but i'll handle that later..
I've searched alot amidst the heaps of roms available but i can't decide on one to pick.. At first I was going for NBD 8.3 as I read alot of good stuff about it and it had all i wanted.. Then i realized though that it was quite old and started looking at some more recent releases but just couldnt pick one from all those features I have no clue about
So the question is:
Will I be fine with NBD 8.3? or should i try something else, more recent, that will perform better for my needs?
BTW I have a G4 QTEK 9100
Thanks in advance, and sorry for posting yet another one of these questions.. Even though Im aware that there is no *BEST* rom to use, I just need some advice and/or personal input as to one that will fill my needs nicely
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Hello there....
i can suggest you (if you want the new/fresh ROMS)
there are 6.1 and 6.5 WM versions from CRACING and XDA2_HASSEB
both cookers are amazing.
Now im using the XDS2_HASEEB 6.5 newer version, very nice, stable, and looks fresh (colorfull) LOL
GOOD LUCK
In addition to the cooks mentioned by tigrisimo, I recommend looking at some of the stuff from S.V.I. His are some of the fastest and tightest ROMs around, if you can get past his penchant for unusual theme art.
In other news, I would suggest that you give up your quest for the cube. It's slow, massive, and dated.
Take a look at the Manila 2d today plugin for wm6, and the CHOME/Titanium for WM 6.5. They provide easy access to phone features in a similar but superior way.
All is on the title...
No more ROM in the future
I agree with you, but.....
There doesn't seem to be anything to replace it. I've tried Kaiser, Magic and Diamond hardware, all of which suck in comparison.
So I've ended up back on the uni - the other phones are all heading to ebay.
Any suggestions as to how we liven up the uni a bit?
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I agree with you, but.....
There doesn't seem to be anything to replace it. I've tried Kaiser, Magic and Diamond hardware, all of which suck in comparison.
So I've ended up back on the uni - the other phones are all heading to ebay.
Any suggestions as to how we liven up the uni a bit?
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Yep, the Uni is unbeatable about the life, any vanilla ROM with one of the latest builds will be nice WM6.1/6.5
My way of keeping my Uni fun was SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, it is just like getting a new user interface, so doesn't matter so much what ROM it is running, even WM5. The only thing I needed was 128Mb RAM. However, I have to say that having 128/256 on my LG KS20 felt amazingly roomy, wish my Uni had that much space.
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My way of keeping my Uni fun was SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, it is just like getting a new user interface, so doesn't matter so much what ROM it is running, even WM5. The only thing I needed was 128Mb RAM. However, I have to say that having 128/256 on my LG KS20 felt amazingly roomy, wish my Uni had that much space.
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I agree completely. spb ms3.5 plus any lightweight stable rom will do the trick for 64MB uni pls take note however that spb ms is not for free (yu need a little resourcefulness though ).
of course, blessed are those with upgraded ram
thingonaspring said:
I agree with you, but.....
There doesn't seem to be anything to replace it. I've tried Kaiser, Magic and Diamond hardware, all of which suck in comparison.
So I've ended up back on the uni - the other phones are all heading to ebay.
Any suggestions as to how we liven up the uni a bit?
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solution??? i guess we need to start cooking unless you will continue and start releasing new rom again
btw yur 21040 is one of the roms ive tested and found to be more responsive and compatible with spb ms 3 & 3.5. many thanks for sharing.. regards
phezthie
There are still a few Chefs alive in Uni section!
So Uni will never die, even if there is no mre new ROM´s we reached WM6.5 on a device with WM5, so we are actual.
And I´m sure someone will find the way to port the new look of WP7 in the future!
I have tested several HTC devices and have to agree, none of them can be compared, even if they are faster...not even my Rhodium (which is a great device)
UNIVERSAL will never die!!
OK, so a bit of a rom refresh would cheer people up. I'll package up a 21068/21051 rom in the next few days. This build has been running on my Uni for a few months now so I know it's stable, there's just some loose ends to tidy up. It'll also finally ditch tcpmp 0.81 in favour of the latest 0.72recomp3 which now matches 0.81 for playback speed and doesn't have the annoying screen rotation bug.
If you still love your uni, and you've not had it upgraded to 128mb yet - go and find a way to get it upgraded! It gives the phone a new lease of life - snappier, more versatile and it seems to improve battery usage. (I suspect the battery improvement is due to reduced CPU-load and Flash-reads when pagepooling is disabled)
Note that you can run a 64mb device without pagepooling, but RAM tends to fill up quite quickly, resulting in apps refusing to load or acting all crashy. That said, there are ways to improve memory management (auto-hibernate for one) that might make it more of an option.
@Enigma - 256MB would rock - particularly for those who like to dabble with linux/android. It's just a shame nobody makes 128mb chips in the right packaging. :-(
Great to know something new will come!!, hope for 64Mb too
Shame for me upgrade to 128mb it´s very hard to accomplish
Great news!
thingonaspring ,
greart news to hear!
I have been using Cotull Q3 WM 6.1 for ages.......nothing beats it. (IMHO)
And with 128 MB RAM it's "snappy".
A new ROM is always welcome.Waiting with appreciation.
Thanks.
Mods/Orb
Can we change the title of the thread?...it is rather depressing and misguiding.
And do you expect us to suggest any apps to include in the ROM or would it be a Vanilla one?
uni dead nooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!
mine has tomal V8.9, windows 6.1 and spb mobile shell (yes i was resourceful and got it.) and mine now runs like a charm and give my 64mb xda exec a new ui and fresh look.
we still need roms for our 64mb unis for all those like me that dont have ours upgraded.
carry on the good work cheff's we all really appreciate you keeping our unis alive.
long live the uni
btw i have the new nokia 5530, but my uni beats it hands done in everyway.
The rom is now uploaded here :-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=643243
cheers thing will try it later. see wot its like with spb ms 3.5.3.
cheers mate
kalya said:
thingonaspring ,
Mods/Orb
Can we change the title of the thread?...it is rather depressing and misguiding.
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I´m completly agree about this, I think we should ask OP first
@teddybear3k, do you think you can consider this request please?
Also today Sun Dream released a new ROM, so Uni will be still alive!!!
OK title changed.
Here I can tell my IMATEJASJAR not dead, he is the top, the only disadvantage is the ram, but I already have a donor hand and will follow the operation and 128mb ram will be happy if you still make good ROMs for our UNI, maybe one day I learn to cook roms for my faithful friend
just bought a touch diamond whats best windows or android & is it easy to flash back to a windows rom if i try and dont like android... and what roms do folk on here like best on this phone ? opinions please
wELL IT SEEMS NO ONE HAS THE TIME OR INCLINATION TO REPLY ON HERE ANY MORE? I WONDERD IF ITS CHANGED THAT MUCH,FOLK USED TO HELP BUT NO REPLYS,GUESS I WILL JUST HAVE TO STAB IN THE DARK TO SEE WEATHER ANDROID IS FOR ME OR TO STAY WITH WM,whoops please excuse the caps lock was on..
It's only been 24hrs, please be patient when asking a question for the answer.
Re: WM vs Android:
Android does not work 100% on WM devices so it's best to check the Android thread and see what isn't working and if you can live without it.
Alot of Android bases can work via haret on SD card so no need to flash, the nand versions you can flash back to WM via bootloader.
Make sure your Hard-SPL'd.
alik106 said:
just bought a touch diamond whats best windows or android & is it easy to flash back to a windows rom if i try and dont like android... and what roms do folk on here like best on this phone ? opinions please
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- You'll get better answers in the Diamond section.
- You didn't even say which model/carrier Diamond you have. GSM Diamond is different from Sprint/Alltel Diamond is different from Verizon Diamond. They are NOT interchangeable.
- Android for CDMA/Sprint Diamond is not really ready for prime time. Biggest problem is battery drain.
- You can try it WITHOUT flashing... just d/l the needed files and run it.
- The best forum to discuss ROMs for the Diamond is on www.ppcgeeks.com
- My favorite ROM for the Sprint Diamond is MightyRom 4. It is WM6.1. I see no point to WM6.5 for the Diamond.
OK thanks & sorry for impationtness would put it down to a bad day at the hair dressers or some thing but being bald/shaved that wont work so i just apologise ,yes i think looking about that i will stick with wm, i have seen the energy rom on the tube i like the look of that , the icons look real good and it seems smooth, so will have a look at some other roms and see, in an ideal world i would just get the handset of choise but i have to search for auction bargins to get my phones.. thanks Ali
Hey guys! I'm new here. My contract with orange romania is expiring and i was wondering if you could help me out. i have the option to choose between the HTC TOUCH PRO and the TOSHIBA TG01. i held them both in my pants.. hands sry, and the both feel very good . now, the htc is more easy to use , has a better camera and faster messagin optio thnks to the qwerty keyboard but the toshiba support WM6.5 and has that diamond in it, the 1Ghz Snapdragon processor. so, i really need help on deciding . a person recomended not to take the toshibe because of scarce acesories and body parts in case of service support.
i must make up my mind until monday 11 am Bucharerst time .
so please friends, pin point me to the best direction!
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Hey guys! I'm new here. My contract with orange romania is expiring and i was wondering if you could help me out. i have the option to choose between the HTC TOUCH PRO and the TOSHIBA TG01. i held them both in my pants.. hands sry, and the both feel very good . now, the htc is more easy to use , has a better camera and faster messagin optio thnks to the qwerty keyboard but the toshiba support WM6.5 and has that diamond in it, the 1Ghz Snapdragon processor. so, i really need help on deciding . a person recomended not to take the toshibe because of scarce acesories and body parts in case of service support.
i must make up my mind until monday 11 am Bucharerst time .
so please friends, pin point me to the best direction!
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Toshiba TG01 FTW, yeh the htc touch pro has better software, but if you get the tg01, install the htc roms that our fantastic chefs cook! the one in my signature is IMHO the best sense ROM, gives it a near perfect expeirience to the htc hd2. and its a snapdragon! my friend has the touch hd, very simiiliar CPU to the touch pro and it is much slower. anyway the touch pro has been suceeded by tp2. the screen of the tg01 is wvga, so it is clearer. personally imho the touch pro is outdated and , get the tg01!
ok guys, due to lady bad luck the toshiba was sold and best next one was the htc touch pro. now i need you're help in finding a good os/updates/apps/something to get it 'rollin' . i would like something stable not that ported android beta os. any advice is welcomed.
and thank you oly for that quick response
IMHO,go for the hTC touch pro...Its a good device when you compare it to the Tosh... Also,the service network of Toshiba is in shambles....Need i say more after you read this?
tnks shr. but i have already bought it... now what OS do you recomend? apps.. everything. i am open to advices/links
please i would realy need another rom because this one lag-s!!
Have a look at the one in my Signature.
Also look at newer TAEL 2.5 sense & Energy ROMs.
TAEL ROM is smooth for me but user tweaking & the ability to read instructions & threads makes the diference between good & bad user experiences !
Tarkin Keyboard button driver is a must, will list some more stuff when have 10 minutes to spare, in middle of catching flight so just a quick reply.
oh, thank you very much! i do appreciate it! but unfortunate, i am a noob. i have never flashed a phone. all i had till now where symbian phones. this is first WM and HTC experience for me .
TG01 Roms
Hi I have been roaming around this forum for a few years now.
I too have a TG01, The best bit of advise I can give is to stay away from any win7 roms, the TG was not designed to ever run it. Win7 is very slow.
There are some very good roms out there, I have found that anything from mirolg tends to be stable.
With regards to flashing a new Rom Check out the "how to Guide" in the TG01 section (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654674) if you are still finding it a little hard have a search for the problem, but if you still cant work it out drop me a PM.
Hope you have a good time finding your perfect Rom.
Gingerchristopher
digital_critic said:
oh, thank you very much! i do appreciate it! but unfortunate, i am a noob. i have never flashed a phone. all i had till now where symbian phones. this is first WM and HTC experience for me .
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We were all virgins to flashing at one point.
Do some research & follow guidelines for 6.5 install & run in period from energy & all should be well ! quite simple really ...
In my opinion 2.1 sense is better option on touch pro but some of the newer 2.5 sense ROMs are supposedly fast but do consume more memory resources & battery power.