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Hi all,
Having tried most of the recent ROMS and radios on this forum and have to give massive credit to the ingenuity and skill of the Chefs on here that there is so much choice available. However, I consistently had an issue with GPS fixes.The best initial fix time after a reset, or if I'd not used GPS for a few days, was about 1 minute outside in bright sunshine with no clouds. For cloudy weather this could go up to over 10 minutes. If I tried getting a fix inside at my desk which is next to the window, sometimes I would give up waiting as it just never got a fix (I realise that ordinarily you would not need GPS indoors, but it makes testing on a cold, wet day in the UK a lot easier...)
I tried pretty much everything in various GPS threads, using GPS Test, Quick GPS, disablng A-GPS etc and nothing consistently helped. I could not believe that the Kaiser was so much worse than my old Artemis.
One thread mentioned several folks downgrading to WM6 rather than 6.1 as they claimed this was better. I tried this and hey presto, I now get a cold fix in about 30 secs max, on a good day it can be 10-15 secs. At the same desk above, I get a fix in about 30 secs too. Not only that, my device in use seems to feel faster and things like screen rotate on opening the keyboard seem more so (this is subjective, not measured it).
This made me wonder what the advantages of WM6.1 actually are. From searching around, the list of things that apparently differ are :
Threaded SMS
Speed Increases
PIE Zoom Out
Task Manager
Office One Note
Of these, there are alternatives to most of them :
Threaded SMS use PocketCM,
PIE Zoom use Opera,
Task Manager - many alternatives,
One Note use TouchNotes and
Speed increase - I'm not convinced of in daily use.
However, all the chefs on this forum have moved over to 6.1 so I'm wondering that either the majority of people do not have GPS issues like I do or, as is exceptionally likely, there are other reasons that I do not know for preferring 6.1.
Any chefs out there fancy commenting on why you prefer 6.1 over 6.0 to save me from my ignorance?
Cheers,
Jez.
Same here
I have experienced the same mate. I have tried God knows how many 6.1s and besides, they are looking great and neat (thanks to our brilliant chefs here), i didn't see any improvement on my tilt, just opposite. I have experienced annoying non responsive display, very slow response time, and there was a time when I had to press display several times before I was able to run anything on the phone... let alone the GPS.
Now, I have an original HTC WM 6.0 Pro/ ROM 1.56.405.5/ Radio 1.27.12.11 and I have to say that my Tilt has never been faster and more stabile. Moreover, GPS signal is much better and even works when I put kaiser near the window. It is cloudy and rainy here in Bosnia now, yet it took only 15sec before it received signal.
So, I have to say that this one works better for me.
Lately I too have had more issues that I wish to have. Just seems there is no perfect, or even close mix of ROM/Software that is good enough to be a daily use type. Not sure if the chefs are just over-doing or we just have a bad mix of software at this time. I do hope the chefs continue to work on a better ROM, I do know they try hard and should be commended for their efforts, but right now I may move back to an older version that just worked better. Maybe 6.0, but not quite sure yet.
This is nothing new..many have reverted back to 6.0. But for what its worth, I never have to wait longer than 45 seconds in the U.S. using the emo radio inside my car rain or shine.
After receiving a warranty replacement for my Kaiser, I'm now using the stock T-mobile UK rom, and it's far better than any WM6.1 cooked rom + radio that I've tried when it comes to GPS.
However, the battery life is probably not quite as good. The unit is just as fast as with any of the cooked roms I've tried.
I can't really think of any tangible benefits from using cooked roms, as this stock WM6 rom works well, and I can add any functionality I need by installing the right programs.
I use PointUI, so I would not benefit from the significant improvements to the WM gui that the cooks have produced.
However, I enjoy trying out new roms and seeing what the cooks come up with, so I may still do it anyway, just for the fun of it!
you are absolutely right and now i am going to downgrade to 6.0
GPS is nice to have on my phone but if I truly needed GPS I would have bought a truly more reliable (read: GPS Specific) device.
If I need directions I can still use Google Maps to plot the turns, on my own - like in the old days. *snicker*
TasoM said:
Now, I have an original HTC WM 6.0 Pro/ ROM 1.56.405.5/ Radio 1.27.12.11
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BTW: What version of HardSPL are you using?
Ok, Someone has a chance to explain why this thread should be left in ROM Dev and not moved to Kaiser General.
JimmyMcGee said:
Ok, Someone has a chance to explain why this thread should be left in ROM Dev and not moved to Kaiser General.
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Sorry, duh, I guess we aren't talking about the development of ROMS, eh?
why
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Ok, Someone has a chance to explain why this thread should be left in ROM Dev and not moved to Kaiser General.
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... perhaps because it considers WM6.1 ROM development in the context of the WM6 platform for the Kaiser.
@tabashir --> Threaded SMS use PocketCM. I would be interested in a free replacement to the WM6.1 threaded SMS but http://www.pocketcm.com/index.php does not contain any details of this. Can you throw some light on this. Thx
[Edit - OK found threaded SMS using pocket CM thanks - will check it out thanks]
Thanks for the replies all. Although no answers on why to prefer 6.1, at least I know I'm not completely insane in going back to WM6!
Have not gone the whole hog and gone to a stock ROM tho, have been having fun trying out some of the different cooked ones, albeit old as they are now. Am currently on Blackwood which with Radio 1.27.14.09 and SPL 3.29.
Like TasoM, have not had any freezes or non-responsiveness with WM6 so far which I guess is what the forum is all about, try them all and find what suits your circumstances. I do find the battery life 'seems' worse than when I was on 6.1 and the Emo radio.
Reply to convert > glad you found the threaded SMS. Lots of nice skins for it too. I don't use it personally as I find iContact faster and better for just contacts and I don't need threaded sms.
Reply to JimmyMcGee > The original question was aimed at the Chefs creating the WM6.1 Roms so I figured it better in the Development thread. However, I really don't mind if you move it to where you think it is more appropriate.
Now I gotta go play with PointUI, was not aware of that one before!
How's the video playback and game/ui performance on the stock 6.0?
a major one everyone is forgetting is the dev of the 3D drivers and soon(tm) 2D drivers that is a major reason a lot of people including me have moved on, another one is that when some major changes come in 6.1 i will not have major issues with upgrading my apps mms/sms etc... to the new ROM and not have to worry about radio's and hardspl as i would be already running it..
besides you guys forget, your running windows... i always reboot my phone and a good reason is because i change batteries so every 1-3days it will be rebooted, it mixes most of the small issues.
As far as GPS its always been the same, i havent ever bothered with GPS to be there for me, its just to aid me, i do use google maps which helps i never have used GPS to tell me were to drive i think that is insane, nor will i ever do it, i like to know exactly were to go and what my options are
tabashir said:
Hi all,
Having tried most of the recent ROMS and radios on this forum and have to give massive credit to the ingenuity and skill of the Chefs on here that there is so much choice available. However, I consistently had an issue with GPS fixes.The best initial fix time after a reset, or if I'd not used GPS for a few days, was about 1 minute outside in bright sunshine with no clouds. For cloudy weather this could go up to over 10 minutes. If I tried getting a fix inside at my desk which is next to the window, sometimes I would give up waiting as it just never got a fix (I realise that ordinarily you would not need GPS indoors, but it makes testing on a cold, wet day in the UK a lot easier...)
I tried pretty much everything in various GPS threads, using GPS Test, Quick GPS, disablng A-GPS etc and nothing consistently helped. I could not believe that the Kaiser was so much worse than my old Artemis.
One thread mentioned several folks downgrading to WM6 rather than 6.1 as they claimed this was better. I tried this and hey presto, I now get a cold fix in about 30 secs max, on a good day it can be 10-15 secs. At the same desk above, I get a fix in about 30 secs too. Not only that, my device in use seems to feel faster and things like screen rotate on opening the keyboard seem more so (this is subjective, not measured it).
This made me wonder what the advantages of WM6.1 actually are. From searching around, the list of things that apparently differ are :
Threaded SMS
Speed Increases
PIE Zoom Out
Task Manager
Office One Note
Of these, there are alternatives to most of them :
Threaded SMS use PocketCM,
PIE Zoom use Opera,
Task Manager - many alternatives,
One Note use TouchNotes and
Speed increase - I'm not convinced of in daily use.
However, all the chefs on this forum have moved over to 6.1 so I'm wondering that either the majority of people do not have GPS issues like I do or, as is exceptionally likely, there are other reasons that I do not know for preferring 6.1.
Any chefs out there fancy commenting on why you prefer 6.1 over 6.0 to save me from my ignorance?
Cheers,
Jez.
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Try the newer rom(s) with manilla 2D (hyperdragon III is currently the only one publicly available). Newer is better.
I too switched to 6.0
tabashir said:
Thanks for the replies all. Although no answers on why to prefer 6.1, at least I know I'm not completely insane in going back to WM6!
Have not gone the whole hog and gone to a stock ROM tho, have been having fun trying out some of the different cooked ones, albeit old as they are now. Am currently on Blackwood which with Radio 1.27.14.09 and SPL 3.29.
Like TasoM, have not had any freezes or non-responsiveness with WM6 so far which I guess is what the forum is all about, try them all and find what suits your circumstances. I do find the battery life 'seems' worse than when I was on 6.1 and the Emo radio.
Reply to convert > glad you found the threaded SMS. Lots of nice skins for it too. I don't use it personally as I find iContact faster and better for just contacts and I don't need threaded sms.
Reply to JimmyMcGee > The original question was aimed at the Chefs creating the WM6.1 Roms so I figured it better in the Development thread. However, I really don't mind if you move it to where you think it is more appropriate.
Now I gotta go play with PointUI, was not aware of that one before!
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I too switched to WM 6.0 and I think that I am much happier than with Dutty's ROM. Do not get me wrong, there was a lot of nice things in it. But I have a feeling that I would rather prefer stock HTC ROM and add some useful software. I have not tried stock HTC ROM in 6.1. I am curious if GPS works teh same as in 6.0 ROM?
To be honest, 6.0 is much stable and less problematic so far compare to 6.1.
Most of the 6.1 problems (e.g. cleartype landscape) have some workaround solutions. But problem like the famous Activesync 86000107 still doesn't have any solution yet.
For me, the only advantage of 6.1 is much faster startup time, and overall system performance.
drutort said:
a major one everyone is forgetting is the dev of the 3D drivers and soon(tm) 2D drivers that is a major reason a lot of people including me have moved on
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The 2D drivers could be a real benefit, but there's no advantage for me or most people having the 3D drivers installed at the moment.
I'll probably give Hyperdragon with TouchFlo 2D a go, but I would not be suprised if I end up sticking pointUI on it and have the exact same functionality and aesthetics as the stock rom. I hope I'm wrong!
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I too switched to WM 6.0 and I think that I am much happier than with Dutty's ROM. Do not get me wrong, there was a lot of nice things in it. But I have a feeling that I would rather prefer stock HTC ROM and add some useful software. I have not tried stock HTC ROM in 6.1. I am curious if GPS works teh same as in 6.0 ROM?
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I am done with problem 86000107, I want to go back to WM 6.0, Where did you find the official WM 6.0 ROM World wide English, and did you need to install a HardSPL or not ????
Thanks
Danny K.
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Now we're talking little bout religion here, LoL.
There was times at beginning of WM6.1 issuance that with so many problems came with it i sometimes convert back to stock HTC WM6, or Schaps 4.30 (most good looking and well done cooked WM6 i tried). I remember it was only before July i keep converting back. Yett most of the time i did it only to get the feeling of what's right before and try to 'port' (find solution) the great feelings to the newer WM6.1.
Nowadays, WM6.1 already much familiarized by the chefs here and gained much tweaks. On a proper hand, it does make big difference in performance. My Kaiser is now running full fledged without any issues, it even have landscape cleartype enabled now for my liking (yet i don't do threaded sms). Faster, more stable, less power hungry, quicker gps fix, more instant screen rotation, than before.
Wow, what happened? It's because the wonder of this community, that's why. AFAIK, i have used several PDA and the conclusion is still the same: left to itself, Microsoft's (MS) product does sux big time. Without this community it will dragging its own feet to its graveyard. I think HTC at least a bit better than MS in adapting to market's demand (i truly belief many HTC engineers are member of this forum, much more than MS's). Cuz I saw some pattern in behaviour here.
Bottomline, WM6.1 is indeed much more problematic than WM6. Yet WM6 was also much more problematic than WM5, or 2003SE!
That's the way MS works, man, everytime they issue newer OS they try to include more functionalities, features, etc, while at the same time introducing more bugs than before. For example, who use windows vista here, care to share your experience with it? Cuz I don't. I even use winXP only after SP2 issued.
Never trust Micro$oft product! Just trust the power of users and communities who expanding it! Now my religion is not WM6.1, but rather, XDA-Devs. So in case next time XDA-Devs decided they have enough with WM,then i may join the convert to Android. Amen.
I was super excited to hear that the Fuze was coming out for AT&T since I have been waiting for the TouchPro for a long time. Finally my local AT&T store got a couple in stock so I went to go take it for a test drive after reading/watching all the reviews I could find.
I'm thoroughly disappointed. I am trying to upgrade from my 8125 and i was thinking that it would be a major improvement. The Fuze is slower than my 8125, how is this possible? Is touchflow3D the new vista? The only thing that even keeps me remotely interested is the video out capability.
I'm not sure if I should be mad at HTC since they only make the hardware or microsoft since they make the bulky and outdated windows mobile software. Now I have to wait another year to see what hits the market. I'm a big fan of HTC and WinMo but I think someone needs to step it up a bit. IPhone isn't that big of a threat but after playing with the Android OS on the G1 I can definitely say that it is worthy to be called a next-gen OS.
Throw the Android OS on the Fuze and then we can call it a day.
I think it is our fault for constantly spending $500 on phones that provide inferior performance. Ok the rant and rave is over
Mod Edit: Combined about 10 threads with various minor complaints about the fuze, please try to keep general complaint type comments to this thread.
I had issues that day I bought my Fuze. I was really worried that it was a dog as it was slow and using the screen was spotty. The two things I did to change my mind were to use my finger tip instead of finger nail to navigate the screen and intall the TF3D Configuration tool and apply the speed tweaks. After that it runs like lighting... I upgraded from the 8525...
turn off TF3d and re-evaluate the speed.
is the slowness TF or WM
While not as snappy as my Tilt, I don't think its the TF3D app. I can turn it off and use it like a normal mobile device. I noticed finger swipes works better than my Tilt.
People need to remember this is NOT an Iphone or a G1. Those use a different screen technology. Perfect for fingers, really bad for accuracy. Just remember on a winMobile device, swiping with a bit a pressure will work fine. If you want accuracy like clicking on a small box or drawing something (Lets seee iphone or G1) freehand, use the stylus.
Fuze bonus over that of the Tilt: Hi-Resolution screen, more keys on the keyboard, camera light, other things too, but thats the main thing. I liked.
And the G1 ain't all its cracked up to be. My friend has it. He's not happy. He moved from a BB though. Doesn't even have a IM client yet that works full time.
Man, my Fuse (with the TF3D running) is at worst just as fast as my 8525
Flash a rom, take out the bloatware from att. Its fast as ****
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Flash a rom, take out the bloatware from att. Its fast as ****
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I agree. Its MUCH, MUCH faster than my Tilt was after I flashed NotATreoFan's ROM. He basically made a clean version of the stock ATT ROM.
The stock ROM is crap and is bloated and runs slow and lags.
I also made some changes in the AdvancedConfig tool. I changed the finger pressure and sensitivity to Normal instead of the defaults.
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Flash a rom, take out the bloatware from att. Its fast as ****
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This!
Flash your Fuze
I was on the fence about flashing my Fuze... but finally put ROMeOS 1.40 and, like everyone else has said, its night and day.
Just curious what what you're doing that the 8125 could perform better?
sure it is slow. thanks to AT&T bloatware.
I have not flashed a new ROM yet, but just by getting rid of the bloatware and doing the TF3D performance tweaks, the HSPDA tweak, the remapping the PTT button, and i am a happy camper already.
I love the size and the screen resolution. The touch screen TF3D is a huge improvement on my Tilt's Manilla 2D. And once you get stuff like Gyrator 2 on it (to use the G-sensor in ANY app, not just Opera and HTC Album), it really blows my old phone away.
Slowness, GPS lags, network restrictions, bloatware are all easily fixable - well, thats why we love XDA-Devs
the phone is only as good as the user makes it. Try tweaking it and you'll love it like the rest of us~
And trust me, you don't want android YET, so many bugs and flaws with that OS right now. Get yourself a g1 and you'll see why.
Good luck playing with your fuze!
My TF feels kinda fast, no lag whatsoever.
Stock ROM, nothing tampered with except Diamond Background Changer...
I did do a hard reset after the first 4 hours with the phone though, just to avoid any problems (saw it on the Sprint TP forums).
tchan012 said:
sure it is slow. thanks to AT&T bloatware.
I have not flashed a new ROM yet, but just by getting rid of the bloatware and doing the TF3D performance tweaks, the HSPDA tweak, the remapping the PTT button, and i am a happy camper already.
I love the size and the screen resolution. The touch screen TF3D is a huge improvement on my Tilt's Manilla 2D. And once you get stuff like Gyrator 2 on it (to use the G-sensor in ANY app, not just Opera and HTC Album), it really blows my old phone away.
Slowness, GPS lags, network restrictions, bloatware are all easily fixable - well, thats why we love XDA-Devs [/HUOTE]
Hi there....might I ask exactly how you removed the "bloat ware" from the Fuze? I would like to remove a bunch of it myself....thanks!
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XDA to the rescue as always
Thanks for all your comments and I see and appreciate your respective arguments.
baboola - this is very true that we are here because we unhappy with the out-of-the-box performance of our phones
kcchen - 8125 is running touchflo 2d and runs like a champ compared to Fuze with touchflo 3d. I'm guessing this would be the same on the 8525 and 9525 (Tilt)
everyone - thanks for making XDA an awesome expeirience
I guess as usual flashing is the only way to make the necessary improvement. I wasn't really thinking about the AT&T bloatware.
kingdmc said:
Thanks for all your comments and I see and appreciate your respective arguments.
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I guess as usual flashing is the only way to make the necessary improvement. I wasn't really thinking about the AT&T bloatware.
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Good luck! Do the HardSPL and get one of the page pool optimized ROMs. I use the ROMeOS 1.40 which is a dramatic performance improvement... Kevlar-Source has a repository of other ROMs with the page pool hex set to 0. Do a search in the Rapheal ROM development to find Kevlar's repository.
Good luck!
Bloatware...I don't get all your complaints!
It's not like all that crap is hogging RAM. So what's the difference between whacking it and going through the steps to make everything work again - and just leaving it alone?
I use my Fuze with a custom ROM. Faster than the Tilt or the 8125 I had before. I had the ATT ROM for 2 days until I just had too many issues. The customer ROM is much better. Still some minor issues but nothing major.
Still not sure if I like the design of the up/down/left/right. Half the time I press right, I hit the back button.
Think I'm gonna return my Fuze
I've been playing with it since the day before launch, haven't done any custom ROM's so it's all stock...but I don't like it. I mean it's sexy--I love the device itself--but AT&T's software eats it *bad*. At times it feels slower than my Wizard running 6.1, and it's way, way, WAY less stable. The thing is locking up constantly...it's just a pain in the ass.
So I guess that's it. Anyone else disappointed in the software load they've given or had stability problems with the device?
I had a lot of lag with it, but every since my friend flashed it and had all the AT&T stuff taken out, it's been running faster and its pretty stable.
I've been thinking of doing that as well, I am just a bit torn because I'm not sure the ROM development is really mature yet for this particular phone. Also I tend to think this one might be having hardware issues given how much it locks up. Maybe I'll just have them exchange it for another one.
I have tried Timolol's WM6.5 and...I forgot the other...and this one was good for awhile but it's getting insanely buggy.
If you like the ROM you're on, and have been on it for a bit, then point me in the direction. I'd really like to use 6.5 but if I can't find a stable one, then I'll have to revert back to 6.1
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Energy Roms
DaG's WM6.5 21518 Clean ROM without MSVC is working very well for me.
Learn how to use UC and proper backup tools and then you can flash away and try as many roms as you want!
This is such an open ended question because many people have personal preference.
with that said. I would recommend NRG's EnergyROM, very stable 6.5, been using the june 30th version with a couple minor cosmetic issues, which i do not even remember what they are.
EnergyROM works also great and stable for me.
My experience was different from most those posting here. I found the 6.5's buggy. Third party calendar programs are particularly problematic (reoccuring events not even showing, to name one problem). I wanted to like the EnergyROM's... really I did... but alas, I went back to 6.1. So far, I'm experiencing stability with NATF v4.7 and liking it. I won't go back to the stock ROM.
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I have tried Timolol's WM6.5 and...I forgot the other...and this one was good for awhile but it's getting insanely buggy.
If you like the ROM you're on, and have been on it for a bit, then point me in the direction. I'd really like to use 6.5 but if I can't find a stable one, then I'll have to revert back to 6.1
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Hi, have used PROven_ROM_2.4_WWE_Manila_TP (it's WM6.1) - very good,stable and fast.
Then got Energy 3.0 50409a MSVC Raph (wM6.5) and I'm absolutely happy with it. Didn't encountered any problem so far, NRG28 does his ROM's in top level-very professional!
If you want a clean ROM with very little battery usage go with RRE's or Da_G's for absolutely stock. NRG's uses way too much battery, I enjoy charging once every 2-3 days rather than once a day but to each his own..
The most stable and bug free ROM is the latest HTC official ROM. As Da_G said in other thread, there are serious issues in 6.5, so there is no such thing as stable 6.5 ROM - eventually you will face with unnacceptable bugs, like some of XDA members did...
Like what? I don't see many if any bugs that hinder my day to day activities in 6.5, it runs smoother, it's sleeker and unreleased to the public giving it that extra "shimmer", and the built in scrolling effects are just amazing.
What bugs are you speaking of??
WHAT???
pilgrim011- There is a bug free version of WM?
When did that happen?
I too like the energyroms.
I put my crap battery life down to not having found a decent UK T-mob radio yet rather than the rom
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Like what? I don't see many if any bugs that hinder my day to day activities in 6.5, it runs smoother, it's sleeker and unreleased to the public giving it that extra "shimmer", and the built in scrolling effects are just amazing.
What bugs are you speaking of??
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For example, this is one of 6.5 users:
dwmackay said:
I was on the 6 hour flight and decided to play with the phone a bit out of boredom. It was locked up.
No problem soft reset. Continued to lock-up.
No problem, PIM Backup, Hard reset. Then the keyboard would not switch to ABC from 123.
No problem, switch to another SIP. It would hold the change; it kept switching back to the ROM default. No problem, just use the hardware keyboard. A couple of great days in Ireland and it was time to take a quick phone pic to send home. Camera would not work; missed the moment. Fiddled with it a bit, could not get it to work.
No problem, hard reset and try again. Camera works now, keyboard seems to have fixed itself, but phone turns off randomly.
No problem, flash another ROM I have on my storage card. Everything works now except the phone. It has a signal for 5 minutes, then no signal for 5 minutes, over and over.
No problem, switch to manual network selection, could not access the settings.
No problem, hard reset. Works fine now. Ready to take a quick picture at a golf outing where I did not lug my Nikon around. Phone has turned itself off again, missed the moment. Time to surf up some quick directions, IE locks-up.
No Problem, switch to Opera, takes forever to load, my sister already has the directions on her damn iPhone before opera even loads.
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imaginarynumber said:
WHAT???
pilgrim011- There is a bug free version of WM?
When did that happen?
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OK, don't get me wrong, there are things that I don't like - low in-call volume, TF3D is sometimes behaving weird etc., but there is always a .cab or .reg to solve these issues, and to tell you the truth, there are no serious issues with HTC ROM, phone is stable and solid as a rock. Of course, Energy ROMs are way faster and more pretty than official ROMs, but I prefer my battery life, stability etc. over speed, beauty and bugginess... And I don't want to flash my phone every 5 days.
Fair enough pilgrim011
Btw has anyone found a work around for the word completion on the keyboard that actually works regardless of wm version???
For what its worth I love/hate wm6.5- I hate that everyone now thinks that we have to have icons because we are too thick to use menus, if I really was that thick I would have purchased an iphone!!!
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Fair enough pilgrim011
Btw has anyone found a work around for the word completion on the keyboard that actually works regardless of wm version???
For what its worth I love/hate wm6.5- I hate that everyone now thinks that we have to have icons because we are too thick to use menus, if I really was that thick I would have purchased an iphone!!!
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I recommend the fastest bestest most stable rom out there.
and I thought the reason we have all those iphone-alikes was so we could be almost cool enough to have an ibone. err.. iphone.
Im Running MightyMikes on Sprint...only thing is no MMS =( waiting for a fix...may go back to STOCK until then...
I'm using NRGZ's Leo rom. It rocks. MMS is working, but you have to use the winmo interface instead of the new manilla version.
Kevin
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I'm using NRGZ's Leo rom. It rocks. MMS is working, but you have to use the winmo interface instead of the new manilla version.
Kevin
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i had that on B4 i went to MightyMikes...i'll try it...hows your battery life...mine was better on the stock...wierd.
I don't really have a real close comparison. It all depends on where I'm using it. My work coverage sucks (stuck in the dead center of an office building) so my battery life there is horrible no matter what. I'd say on Leo it's a little bit better, which is saying something because I seem to be fiddling and messing with it more.
I've been using NRG's roms since the TP1. I haven't really tried any other ones on the TP2 since I liked his so much on the TP1.
Kevin
I'm running MightyRom's winmo6.5 on my verizon TP2. Everything is running smooth so far.
Mighty! No big bugs but I am interested in the new manilla so I may try Nrg.
I've tried 2 Energy Roms,
Leo looks better but buggy, Photon is not as nice looking, but has less bugs.
MightyMikes on Sprint!!
MightyMikes on VZW, It Rocks!!
I'm running Juicy's R2 Rom. I love the Leo TFL3D but it is a little buggy.
Mikes Mighty ROM. I have no issues so far. All features working.
Engery Rom....
Mighty Mighty on VZW TP2...i put this puppy to the test too and no issues to report.
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I'm running Juicy's R2 Rom.
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+1 on Sprint but put SPB 3.5 over it.
My first ROM flashed was Mighty, 100% stable, very nice and fast, and I mean NO ISSUES!
Then I tried Energy ROM Manila 2.5 and loved the interface, but it don't any good if is not stable and MMS don't work. I tried and I tried all the fixes for MMS (Verizon by the way) and could not get it to work. Now I am back to Mighty and very happy with it. Definitely a HUGE improvement over the Verizon stock ROM.
Mighty Mike ftw ^^
Mighty Mikes ROM on my VZW TP2, only one small issue is the time zone when updating My Location via the weather tab, a quick fix right after a weather update is to go settings-all settings-personal-phone-CDMA Services-Time synchronization-update now
This keeps your currently updated weather and brings your time back to your real time zone.
All in all a very fast and stable rom, no crashes all features working.
Also his update looks as if it will fix the time zone issue. As well as adding more performance among other things.
Is there a thread or place where I can go to look at all the CDMA ROMs that are available? Or will any ROM work? Should I look in the ROMs thread, or are those GSM only ROMs?
The TP2 PPCgeeks forum is the place for our rooms right now.
good place for cdma roms
http://thewingster.com/tp2cdmaroms.aspx
im currently using EnergyROM_21864_RHOD500_03.Nov.2009_Standard so far no issues at all except i think the physical keyboard mappings need fixed but haven't looked into it enough yet.
i tried EnergyROM_21864_RHOD500_02.Nov.2009_Standard and it was very buggy, im glad NRG released a quick fix the next day.
http://www.pcdphones.com/phone_downloads.aspx?bid=128&cid=1&mid=356&carrier=Verizon
At least I hope so. I'm downloading it now.
Careful
HTC hasn't posted/released the WM6.5 upgrade for the Verizon TP2.
Verizon hasn't posted/released the WM6.5 upgrade for the Verizon TP2.
Therefore, I'd be careful of a supposed leaked "Official" ROM.
It's not leaked. PCD is the company being used to distro updates for phones. Someone has just flashed over at PPC and I think I am going to give it a shot too in a few minutes.
This is from the upgrade procedure that is included in the download zip.
The upgrade performs the following improvements:
1) OS Upgrade to Windows Mobile 6.5
2) Updated drivers to support Global VZ Navigator.
3) TouchFLO 3D Enhancements.
Congratulations! You have successfully upgraded your XV6875!
so what are the advantages of flashing this from mighty rom currently? Also the advantage in the radio?
Going to install soon!
This looks like the real deal. wmexperts is also reporting the same with links to the pcdphones site listed above. I have to wait to download but I am totally stoked it came out !!!!!
http://www.wmexperts.com/verizon-touch-pro-2-also-gets-official-windows-mobile-65-upgrade
This update has...
Window 6.5 Pro
CD: 5.2.21874 Build: 21874.5.0.83
Rom: 3.04.605.3
Date: 11/17/09
Radio: 2.23.00WV
PRL: 65072
PRI: 1.94_002
I get this info from PPC, and I think MightyMike extracted the radio already, not sure
I have been putting attention to all TP2 win6.5 updates since Im waiting for my sprint update, Im the type of person that prefer stock roms instead of cooked roms , sorry chefs, nothing personal
That took long enough... Surely there has to be more changes? wmexperts is reporting it also has Sense 2.1
To me it seems like a bit of an epic... Yippee... That's about it... Doesn't seem to do anything major to the phone - at least nothing compared to some of the cooks around here!
Sense is nice, and it's great that the 'my location' feature is active, but overall...
Not that impressed...
Does it have Sense 2.1 or Sense 2.5?
venomshot629 said:
Does it have Sense 2.1 or Sense 2.5?
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Many people confirmed that has Sense 2.1
I want to hear more feedback on this before I download.
I am downloading it right now and will flash as soon as its done and will report back with info about the rom soon.
EDIT: Manila 2.1
Problem fixed for 1X areas. No more error pops up.
Other than that i am looking forward for custom roms to be cooked with the new information from this rom for verizon users
I have already flashed the new stock rom, and I have also dumped it into a kitchen so that I can get rid of some of the crap ware. The stock version eats alot of memory. I got up to 75% in just a couple of minutes, and I was just going through the menus and seeing all that was installed.
It's just manilla 2.1 with colored icons on the slider and weather clock. Every thing else is pretty much the same as the custom 6.5 roms every one has been flashing as far as windows is concerned. At least its an approved verizon rom and now I can strip it and make my own version. This is what I have been waiting for. To bad there is not much eye candy with it.
It is a memory hog, but they have fixed the Bluetooth issue where you cannot hangup. Also, the incoming MMS images are full screen instead of small. And of course, the new radio.
i like it. did it last night. took about 4 minutes. it seems to be about the same speed as the 6.1 it shipped with. bluetooth works better. faster pairing with headset. will try to see if hangup works now. (dont have headset with me so i will test when home) i like the weather on home screen. nice upgrade. id recommend it.
I thought it was a good upgrade too.
The weather is nice. Finally I get to use the lock screen which I love. All cabs that gave you back memory seem to work. The camera with al the modes work too and some other stuff. This is a real treat for me since originally I didn't plan on getting the TP2 and then seeing 6.1 made me kind of sad (minus touch flow 3d). So yeah not only does it feel like a new phone but a new os too. I will definetly be able to make the wait for awesome Windows Mobile 7 phone (albiet full price).
Anybody getting an e-mail notice of "1" even though you have no un-read mail pending?
No I didn't get that. I would check every folder you have (could be in draft or something).
I noticed the all settings button didn't work. But I know now its Wktask which I love. But for some reason it is effecting me from going to settings. So I had to uninstall it. Now if I have this problem again its a bug and not WKtask's fault.