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Hi
I'm brand new here, and I'm hoping this question may have already been asked and answered but...
I have the new Orbit 2 and really much prefer the HTC Home to the o2 Today.
So I installed HTC Home and it works fine but...
I'm not able to control it in the same as this guy can with the TouchFlo...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5olemDlIRI
I'd like to be able to control it in the EXACT same way; I have UltimateLaunch but it doesn't seem to change the whole screen in the way the video does, just the bit at the bottom.
Am I missing some software?
Many, many thanks
Oliver,.
just bumping my question...
I would be very interested in this too as a new owner of an orbit2
Alfie, can you give me any pointers to the HTC Home app please?
The answer to this thread is actually extremely simple. Remove ALL today plugins except for ultimate launcher then add your HTC plugin onto a tab in UL, then create more tabs with icons and such, set the tab gestures to open/perform the desired tasks and lastly set the height of the ultimate launch plugin to be equal to your entire screen size. After you play around for a bit you will understand. Ultimate launch does not use touchflo, it has its own "touchflo" monitor. I have been using a setup like this for a few days now and am quite happy with it. if you search here in the developer section you will see some threads there for "the better cube", "questions about tabbed today" and others. read those and you will be quite happy.
My O2 Orbit2 did not come with HTC Home, any clues as to where I can get this please?
After playing around with my HTC Touch Pro for 3 weeks I am not quite sure I like that TouchFLO 3D. Besides that it is graphically beautifully designed, it lacks real world functionality. Such functionality for example that the iphone has.
Tabs order cannot be changed.
Tabs which I don't need cannot be removed.
The Music tab isn't intuitive and useful
The Album isn't that useful, just better to open the Album app itself
Default pro for Calender/Contacts are akward to change with 3rd prg tweaks
The People (Contacts) flipping around favorite contacts isn't usefull besides being visually appealing. Displaying small thumbnails of multiple contacts is more effective.
The Today screen not very useful.
It's not that it's all bad, it's just that I am thinking if there may be something better than that?
mobiler said:
After playing around with my HTC Touch Pro for 3 weeks I am not quite sure I like that TouchFLO 3D. Besides that it is graphically beautifully designed, it lacks real world functionality. Such functionality for example that the iphone has.
Tabs order cannot be changed.
Tabs which I don't need cannot be removed.
The Music tab isn't intuitive and useful
The Album isn't that useful, just better to open the Album app itself
Default pro for Calender/Contacts are akward to change with 3rd prg tweaks
The People (Contacts) flipping around favorite contacts isn't usefull besides being visually appealing. Displaying small thumbnails of multiple contacts is more effective.
The Today screen not very useful.
It's not that it's all bad, it's just that I am thinking if there may be something better than that?
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have you not tried the customizer?? you can remove tabs and order them
mobiler said:
After playing around with my HTC Touch Pro for 3 weeks I am not quite sure I like that TouchFLO 3D. Besides that it is graphically beautifully designed, it lacks real world functionality. Such functionality for example that the iphone has.
Tabs order cannot be changed.
Tabs which I don't need cannot be removed.
The Music tab isn't intuitive and useful
The Album isn't that useful, just better to open the Album app itself
Default pro for Calender/Contacts are akward to change with 3rd prg tweaks
The People (Contacts) flipping around favorite contacts isn't usefull besides being visually appealing. Displaying small thumbnails of multiple contacts is more effective.
The Today screen not very useful.
It's not that it's all bad, it's just that I am thinking if there may be something better than that?
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I don't know where you have been looking?
TouchPro is almost the same as the Diamond,
and over at the Diamond forum we are changing tabs, removing tabs, some people are developing new tabs...
Changing grafix, colour, fonts ...
I know there are some downsides with TF3D
like the calendar sucks, the Contacts is almost only for show...
In the beginning I didn't like the Music player... but now I use it anyway... It does pretty much what I need..
what does the IP(****)hone do/have that the Diamond/TouchPro doesn't do/have??
I'm not saying that you must have TF3D if u have a Diamond/TouchPro... not at all...
All people are different and have different taste or use the phone different...
Take a look in the Development and Hacking section... or anywhere else in this forum and u will see that there are allot of alternatives..
sorry if I just babbled on here... but If u think u can't modify/customize your TouchPro... you're wrong!
Check out the Diamond Forum
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Such functionality for example that the iphone has.
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Come on, chief. a "smart" phone that doesn't have the most basic copy-paste feature shouldn't be trusted.
It's like eating in a restaurant where the chef cannot even make boiled eggs.
I've been using TF3d for a while now and I think it's great! much better than the iPhone interface which you can try out with iFonz.
TF3D rulez.
I worry that if I don't use the ICI, the lack of buttons will become more evident.
So what you're saying is that Touchflo 3D is just for show, but the iPhone's interface is not? I recommend you look around in the Diamond forums for some hacks, tweaks, etc. to make Touchflo 3D more useful to you (removing, reordering tabs) and if that doesn't do it, there are tons of other apps out there that will do what you want. You just have to look for them.
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So what you're saying is that Touchflo 3D is just for show, but the iPhone's interface is not? I recommend you look around in the Diamond forums for some hacks, tweaks, etc. to make Touchflo 3D more useful to you (removing, reordering tabs) and if that doesn't do it, there are tons of other apps out there that will do what you want. You just have to look for them.
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I've never messed around with an iPhone, though a lot of friends have them. I'm not interested in a smartphone, I need copy/paste, edit Word/Excel docs, etc. As someone who's had computers since 1982, I've seen that GUI's and ICI's slow down existing hardware, and it's then some time before the hardware catches up. Early Windows almost swamped an otherwise fast DOS computer, for instance. Even though this CPU is faster than the Mogul, it's no faster than the old Samsung i730, which I also had.
The TF3D is nice but certainly lacks functionality...I use SBP plus and mobile shell on my TP and it´s great...howver I miss the weather tab of the TF3D with its raindrops......
asolano895 said:
The TF3D is nice but certainly lacks functionality...I use SBP plus and mobile shell on my TP and it´s great...howver I miss the weather tab of the TF3D with its raindrops......
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+1
The animation with the raindrops is cool but the the whole TF3D suck...
asolano895 said:
The TF3D is nice but certainly lacks functionality...howver I miss the weather tab of the TF3D with its raindrops......
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+1. TF3D got me really excited about Xperia for couple of days. But later I had to go back to SE panel which is very similar to Today screen with weather, calendar, RSS, etc as it's more functional for my needs. spbPanel Mobile shell is much more functional than TF3D.
The best combination I have found is using SPB Pocket Plus and SPB Mobile Shell. Together they make a very powerful (if not beautiful) interface. I can access everything within two screen taps. When I say everything I mean, weather, ALL my programmes, diary, contacts, settings, phone book and so on. It is so much quicker to get to things than anything else I have used.
These two programmes are very easy to customise and so for me TF3D is in the bin. That's just me though.
Okay guys & gals,
Just thought I'd start a topic about our Today Screen.
I love a good launcher program (which I believe is simply what a today screen is). It took me a while to get to like WM6.5, but I do now. The disadvantage is that I still have to press my Start Menu for other apps... and for 64MB Uni's the disadvantage is only too obvious.
I hope you don't mind me quoting, but this is what started me thinking...
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What I would like to do is set the programs screen ie the screen full of icons as the default when you start up the Universal. One less step and simpler for the end user.
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home screen plus is what yu need, i guess....
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Yeah, oh for a simple Today Screen. I'm with you there.
Why do we have one method of accessing our apps on the Today screen, and yet another from the Start menu. (And for me a third when I want to choose a game to play).
I suppose nobody has come up with something that everyone agrees on!
Hence we have such platforms as Android, maybe.
As phezthie says, HomeScreen PlusPlus is a cool app. However, if you can't find a theme that someone has made that you like, you must be willing to write a script. Personally I love this app, but spend too much time tweaking my scripts! Ouch
Another one is ThrottleLauncher. A lovely graphic approach, but a bit heavy/slow and a few bugs. Very easy to set up, though... but perhaps more of an interest with 128MB devices and maybe a little restricted.
Anyone got a great Today Screen or Launcher they think others would like?
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Hi Jonny
Interesting thread indeed
I used for a long time HTC Home large VGA by pj07 and I was very satified as I had all I needed on that home screen.
Now I´m using titanium but I´m agree with your comments above.
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Cheers,
I use Titanium too and its going pretty well for my needs till now.This his a good idea.
Hello thank you for starting this thread,as i am obsessed lately with this subject. I tried EVERYTHING that i could find,and so far,on my 64 MB uni,i can say only that i managed to find NOTHING in my taste.
Throttle launcher is awesome but no way it can work on my device,buggy and extremely slow,same as Pointui Home 2, with the POINTSENSE suite 2.0.0.6 looks awesome but useless on my device. For everyone with a 128 MB device i would recommend it,there are many many interesting skins/themes and applets on the Pointui website http://www.pointui.com/
Also,i am waiting for a new or fixed version of Touch Shell Pro ,which looks promising also,has some nice skins too, version now is 1.1.0.17,but has too many issues still,on my UNI at least.
http://www.touch-shell.com/
Also i tried FEWidgets Ultimate,again nice idea but too slow on my UNI.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544874
There is now also this Sense UI Theme for FEWidgets Ultimate.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-sense-ui-theme-for-fewidgets-ultimate.html
As for launchers,i tried plenty,most of them too slow ofc,the nicer ones
Easy Today Launcher is a nice today plugin,you can combine it with some others to make a nice today screen also :
http://www.loffactory.webs.com/
MyAction is a nice launcher you can pick up here versions 1.1 and new 2.0 :
http://www.8080.pl/
This one looks real nice but was way too slow on my 64 mb - Touchlaunch :
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-touchlaunch.html
And for last,the best thing i found to be part of my today screen,is a skin for marsware weather panel 2009 - here is the whole thing :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401781
When i get time i will put some more up,when i remember them,i really tried a lot of things out. And i really really wish that my UNI has 128 MB
I never looked back since getting SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, I think it's the best. In fact, once I got it, the ROM UI became irrelevant, I even have WM5 on one of my Unis in order to have the VC and not suffer much.
Complexity
Jonny
Thanks for starting this thread. I have also played with a number of the Today screen graphical setup programs, some are quite good. However, since upgrading to 6.5 I quite like the standard program screen that comes up when you select start.
My question is why do we need any of these today screen programs, when the icons and screen are already there. We really don't want to add any more complexity to the setup or anything else to use up precious memory.
I originally asked the question to see if there was just a way of bypassing the today screen altogether, so that the standard program screen came up by default.
Now thanks to you we have the collective minds thinking about it.
@gewin:
I actually got your idea. But couldn't find the function OS calls (@shell32.exe) when you hit on start menu.
Once we get then it is just the easy part....
I use SPB Pocket Plus, because it can handle other today plugins in different tabs. And it runs quickly on UNI64...
Thanks guys, this has been very informative. Especially to PalDragon for all the review... I'm going to give some of those a try. Cheers. What do others think?
MyAction - I found I didn't like. It looks ok if you use all the icons, otherwise you have half a screen full of blue +'s. I would prefer slide to screen, rather than use of a Prev/Next button. You also need to add all the apps yourself, it wasn't self-populating.
TouchLaunch - like. However only 1 item per line means a lot of scrolling, and the scrolling can be quite slow. Nice that you can make categories. Latest version here. Smooth (on my 128MB Uni)
EasyToday Launcher - @gewin, this is what you want! It's not self-populating, but I do like it. And as PalDragon pointed out, you can add other Today items with it, if you wish.
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I never looked back since getting SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, I think it's the best. In fact, once I got it, the ROM UI became irrelevant, I even have WM5 on one of my Unis in order to have the VC and not suffer much.
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i completely agree, its not free though but worth it...
Hi Jonny.. can you please attache some pics of your today screen if you haven't yet, I use HTC Home its got all i need even wheather, Messaging etc... But i wonder if its possible to add some applications to the wm6.5 on that cool up down slide. This made me stop using HTC Home but now i have some app's missing on my today.
my today screen is unintersting. I use WM6.5 'Ron Arad Orange' with CHome editor* for my apps (piccy1). I used to have weather plugin* but this seemed to make my GPS navigation freeze intermittently. I use QuickMenu* for my task switcher (piccy2) and iReflect icons* in my start menu (piccy3) with honeycomb start menu*. (Also, once used ATContacts widget*).
However I am still looking for a good 'app launcher' for games. I use fexploreext* set to 'Icon View' (see piccy4&5). Sadly fexploreext doesn't seem to work in WM6.5.1
I did once create a HomeScreen++ theme* for back when it was BatteryStatus, but haven't kept it up to date. It also had weather. The funny thing about weather widgets is that whenever I want to look at the forecast, I always want to update it ... so it seemed reasonable to stick with weather from an internet page! (perhaps because in UK weather is so changeable, I don't know!)
however, I am beginning to like SPB Mobile Shell (unsure how long the trial is for). What themes are people using? enigma1nz? phezthie?
FEWidgets and throttlelauncher seem similar, but a poor mans copy?
*if you want any of these files, just PM me.
spb mobile shell is really impressive and powerful (the latest is v3.5), ive been using ms v2 since tomal's 8.5. however, based from my experience, v3.5 is not advisable using tomal's wm6.5 roms (v9 & 10) due to slow response and occasional freeze. same with other wm6.5 cooked roms i tried, the reason why ram upgrade is imperative, at least for me, to enjoy the latest rom with latest spb.
off course, another solution i think is if our great uni rom chefs will always consider releasing vanilla of their great work...
UltimateLaunch
http://www.ultimatelaunch.de/index_en.html
Setup is a bit of a hassle (I've been messing around in Android, so a lot of Windows Mobile/Phone stuff seems more complex to customize), but if you're willing to put in the time, it's a rock solid-app and can customize to a T. It's also the least memory-hungry of what I've tried.
The only thing I don't like is that it doesn't accommodate rotation very well unless you count out pixels and just set it up so that in landscape it looks good even though the bottom of your screen is cut off.
I've tried Lakeridge (think Titanic, flashy, but *will* crash), ThrottleLauncher, Win6.5, SPB, SBSH. I keep coming back to this.
I used most of the GI app there and i liked WAD2. and i used with my custom theme when i was in wm 6.1, now with 6.5 due to memory issue i can not run it. so i'm using titanium with some customization.... see pic's below...
Hey Rajiv
Jane is so beautiful!!
Yes, very nice Jane, mate
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Hey Rajiv
Jane is so beautiful!!
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Yes, very nice Jane, mate
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Thanx a lot Guyz...
i envy you mate
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i envy you mate
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He he
common guys no comment on titanium ....
I've been in contact with Redshift about possibly adding 480x800 resolution support to The Quest, one of the better RPG games for WM. The reply I got wasn't great... they won't be supporting the WM version anymore. However, they did mention that 800x480 support works and is built in (aka landscape mode in HD2, HD, X1, etc.)
EDIT: See second post for instructions on how to get this to work.
I got it to work. Here's the instructions:
Install BsB Tweaks, The Quest v 1.04 (Not 1.03), and VGA Fix v.4 (The newest one that works with 6.5)
Start BsB Tweaks, and goto the rotation menu. Add File Explorer to the list of programs that can rotate, and soft reset.
Once phone is back on,use VGA Fix v.4, set res to VGA. start BsB tweaks, and go into the rotation menu. Add the quest to the list of programs that can rotate. Before closing The Quest, or soft reseting, go into the settings for The Quest, and select "Left Landscape" for view. Soft reset.
Now, once phone is back on, goto File explorer. Search out The Quest exe. (usually under program files\games\the quest\), rotate screen so file explorer is in landscape, and *double tap* (see note below) the quest. Congrats, your game should start, touch controls will work, and you wont need to use VGAFix to lose full screen. Let me know if it works for you.
NOTE: it seems that a single click on the exe won't always start The Quest. It will show the white "Starting the Quest" text, then exit back to the file explorer. Double tapping the exe works every time... got me as to why.
Thanks for the tip on the settings and starting the game via landscape mode file explorer. works for me.
where can we dl this game? is it free?
http://redshift.hu/
That's the homepage for the game. It isn't free, unless you do some searching. I will say that the game is worth the 10 bucks they are asking. I can easily waste 30 to 60 hours on a play through, not including the official expansion... or the multiple other 3rd party expansions. A new, free expansion was just released for it, in fact. If you poke around in the forums they list on the home page, you can find a ton of info on it. They do have a demo you can download and try.
I added this to the thread on "Games that work for the HD2". Anyone else try this? Just want to make sure it works for a few people.
Hi,
where I can find the VGA fix?
I search and search and don't find anything...
greets
Sturmwind80
Nice one
Good to know !!!
try it tonight ...
THX
Sturmwind80 said:
Hi,
where I can find the VGA fix?
I search and search and don't find anything...
greets
Sturmwind80
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Same issue.
Where do i find this VGA Fix program?
Seems like the OP was talking about WVGA Fix 4.
Works on my TP2
Hey, thanks for the tip! Works like a charm on my Touch Pro 2.
Doesn't work well on my Omnia 2 - the game starts properly on a full screen but the controls are screwed both in start menu and the game itself (have to tap in competely different places than icons are placed, it looks like there is portrait layout of "clickable" places on a landscape display).
Has anyone found a fix for this?
Awesome tip. Worked on my TP2 as well. Like the tweaks apps too.
Hi everibody, so sorry to post a question where it's not allowed but the Q&A section for windows mobile doesn't exist anymore, so I didn't know where to post it.
I am an HD2 owner and for me it's simply perfect with windows mobile, the only thing is that in WM 6.5 and in sense 2.5 there are no smooth and fluid transitions. Don't know if I explained well what I mean. For example in Iphone, android or in any other new OS when I swipe left or right on the screen, the elements move gradually out of the screen and the new one enter gently. In Manila 2.5 no, there is a gap unless you use the manila . Is there a way to make this happen? The same thing when I press the start menu or when I turn the phone in landscape mode, or when I unlock it. I think that the lack of animated transitions make the OS look much older than it is.
Please, I'm asking a last effort to make this system awersome...
as you are using manila 2.5 the nearest to your request is Co0kie Home Tab 2.0. Then you can get in your home tab 7 screens to slide left & right, and 4 levels to slide up & down, and even put some widgets on it.
Other option is MaxSense, but never tried myself. I think you would need to flash a rom with Maxsense as is not provided as .cab
If you wish to try Co0kie 2.0 and need further help post question in the CHT thread.
Thank you for the reply =)
yeah, I'm actually using the HD2O rom with CHT and I noticed that there is the possibility to use widget in the home screen, but I was thinking of something more integrated in the system...for example I found WinStart (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=935808): this is an app that replaces start menu and adds the kind of animations for windows I was looking for. Unfortunately I found this program a little too buggy (some icons disappear and many icon names are changed) and very slow I hope it could be possible to continue in this direction, because I think that the idea is good, but in my opinion it isn't developed properly (those animations could be integrated in a cooked rom probably) and have a similar program for Manila too. It would be simply wonderful.
Of course those are only my suggestions, but I know that nobody would develop any further for windows mobile something like this because this OS is considered dead, but I still love it more than any newer one.
I'm using an energy ROM with CHT & find it very fluid for all functions really & far more flexible than iphone & a lot better looking than Android & many functions less clicks to access.
For the hardware spec of the phone & slow official development WM was & actually still is very very good, if you look at layout of Android & compare it to WM6.5.3 you will see a lot of copying by cheeky Google ...
I need viber software for hd2 plz help me
I need viber software for hd2 plz
Windows Mobile does have animated transitions, but they're generally disabled, as they're slow and ugly.
You can still get them back using the registry (I can find that for you), but you'll probably regret it.
BTW, as my much esteemed colleagues said already, HTC Sense and Co0kie's Home tabs extension prvide pretty nice animations and sliding screens already.
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I need viber software for hd2 plz
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You need what ?
Could you be more precise and explicit, please ?