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Okay guys first of all i know all the benefits to a screen protector, but on my old iPhone that didnt have a screen protector and the screen was fine, no scratches etc etc.... I was wondering do we really, really need a protector on the diamond? As im sure that without it it would be much smoother to use?
I applied my screen protector as soon as I unboxed my phone however was wondering of the opinions of people that a) didnt and b) took their protectors off and used the device.
Does the screen 'feel' any different without it?
Please post in the right section (Diamond accessories).
Screen protectors are advised, 'cause you reduce the risk of damage to the screen itself (which will be expensive to replace). It will dull the sensitivity slightly (although less than on the iPhone screens as they use different technology.)
HI
the diamond really need a screen protector
the glass is very fragile!
personnaly i ve made a little scratch
when i remove my old screen protector
with a knife!!!
the iphone as a really good screen
very hard to scratch....
anyone know whats the difference in screen tech between the iPhone and the Diamond?
irdawood said:
anyone know whats the difference in screen tech between the iPhone and the Diamond?
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Diamond has resistive touch screen, iPhone has capacitive.
That means the iPhone can have a solid (glass) front to the screen.
xboxmod said:
HI
the diamond really need a screen protector
the glass is very fragile!
personnaly i ve made a little scratch
when i remove my old screen protector
with a knife!!!
the iphone as a really good screen
very hard to scratch....
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Use the sticky side of a piece of tape to remove the old screenprotector.
That's the way the pro's are doing it. Use the same sticky tape to pick up small residue on screen before applying the new one.
I have PDA's more 10 years not the first but i still keep my old casio e-105 and since that a lot of them ...
For me it was all a big worry the screen scratches and so every pda had screen protector kit and i tried allot of them different brands different textures, glued , fitted etc...
Right now i look back on my desk and see a bunch of PDA all of them with beautiful screens none with scratches.. BUT.... BUT... I'm more happy to have 9 year old pda without scratches ??? don't think so....
I don't think i will be worst if one them had a screen scratch vs the issues a screen protector have, less sensitive worst view of screen etc...
In diamond is even worst because the screen don't have borders to fit the protection, so will add one more layer on top.......
Even if i have mixed feelings about it i will keep my diamond without screen protector...
maybe next year when i buy the new "whatsoever model" and put this on the shelf i will say damn scratch on the screen but so what.... its on shelf and the time i had keep it, i use that screen at full no lame plastics on top...
just a thought....
But the iPhones isn´t usable with a stylus only with fingers due to the influence in the static field of the capacitive touchscreen.
Well actually the Diamond got TWO touchscreens, it also have a capacitive touchscreen under the normal screen and under the touchpad (buttons) beside the resistive touchscreen on the surface of the screen. (sushilange fond that).
it is a must
you are mad if you don't
fcaeiro said:
I have PDA's more 10 years not the first but i still keep my old casio e-105 and since that a lot of them ...
For me it was all a big worry the screen scratches and so every pda had screen protector kit and i tried allot of them different brands different textures, glued , fitted etc...
Right now i look back on my desk and see a bunch of PDA all of them with beautiful screens none with scratches.. BUT.... BUT... I'm more happy to have 9 year old pda without scratches ??? don't think so....
I don't think i will be worst if one them had a screen scratch vs the issues a screen protector have, less sensitive worst view of screen etc...
In diamond is even worst because the screen don't have borders to fit the protection, so will add one more layer on top.......
Even if i have mixed feelings about it i will keep my diamond without screen protector...
maybe next year when i buy the new "whatsoever model" and put this on the shelf i will say damn scratch on the screen but so what.... its on shelf and the time i had keep it, i use that screen at full no lame plastics on top...
just a thought....
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But still love the Love and passion you speak of.
Something that looks this nice Should look as nice ass possible.
Maybe some company is smart enough to make a full body screen protector. (maybe it allready exist heavn't looked)
I have double feelings about this.
My Touch Screen wothout protections is starting to lose the top layer on the right side of screen (i never really got the hang of using that unnatural touch scrolling and kept using the scrollbar)
Try to teach an old dog new tricks
It's expensive, but this seems to be a good full-protection:
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield...es-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php
We will see this shamefull Spam through the fingers this time
The video sells let's be honoust.
But a video of how to strap on these Protective Phone Kevlar Condom Vests would be usefull.
If anyone get's he's her hands one one of these i'd be interested on how it looks and let's itself be applied. It is pricey but for the Price i'll be paying for the Pro it might be a very good investment.
im going to give that invisible shield a try. sounds cool and i like my devices like from box :>
Can anyone else press the screen semi hard with one finger and distort the LCD screen too?
I know it is not normal for anyone to be pressing that hard, but I just want to make sure I do not have a defect before my 14 days return window closes.
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ive done it before and that happens. It seems to have the same effect on all lcd/led screens with a bit of pressure. IMHO totally normal.
qubit76 said:
ive done it before and that happens. It seems to have the same effect on all lcd/led screens with a bit of pressure. IMHO totally normal.
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Thanks for the response. I know LCD screens do that, I just wanted to make sure that there wasn't an issue with the glass flexing and pushing on the LCD screen.
So if yours is doing it, then I'm OK with mine doing it too. It's not like we are going to be pressing that hard anyway.
Thanks!
You do know the L in LCD means liquid? If you press hard on any LCD screen this will happen. you are displacing the liquid under the screen. You aren't hurting anything. It corrects itelf in a matter of seconds.
The xoom has a really thin glass panel, this is most likely the reason you can distort the liquid easily
How this distortion looks? It could help discern what type of LCD Xoom is using. (for example pressing my PVA screen show a dark smudge)
angry birds causes me to do this now and then!
I get white smudges. I thought that Gorilla glass would have less flex.
Does it look like this?
I returned mine, as the first one I have doesn't exhibit this. Yes, if you press if really hard, any LCD would show this, but this is barely a tap. I'm using my Wacom stylus here, but it's the same with just my finger. It's actually worst in person, but you can clearly see it happening on the video. And it's only on the right hand side of the screen also, so it's definitely a defect. On mine anyway.
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I get white smudges. I thought that Gorilla glass would have less flex.
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Actually, if you look it up on youtube, there are some videos showing how tough it is that also show how surprisingly flexible it is. It's pretty impressive stuff.
Visual360 said:
Does it look like this?
I returned mine, as the first one I have doesn't exhibit this. Yes, if you press if really hard, any LCD would show this, but this is barely a tap. I'm using my Wacom stylus here, but it's the same with just my finger. It's actually worst in person, but you can clearly see it happening on the video. And it's only on the right hand side of the screen also, so it's definitely a defect. On mine anyway.
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Yeah...mine is mostly on the right side into the center. Center to the left, it gets really hard to do it.
it's easier on the right side than the left on mine too but i still kinda have to push a bit. if you push in on the back panel on the right side it does it too.
and nothing but some scuffs which i was able to wipe off...does this mean that my TB has the good glass? i hate screen protectors and never needed one with the droid... so hopefully i wont need one for this... i hate the verizon one they put on for me... took it off
Rub some sand/gravel on it next time. You probably wont get as lucky. Typical keys are made out of mild steel so it would make sense that the glass might resist heavy damage. Have you turned your screen off and examined in good light? The bolt does supposedly have GG. I'd still get a screen protector, with a good one you'll never know it was there, the vzw one is a pos.
I already have a flaw in my screen, looks like a little dot that I have no idea how it got there as I have not done anything to cause it. This is a physical thing on the "glass" that you can see with the screen off/on. Not a dead pixel or anything.
Id still get a screen protector. I boight my TB, had it in my pocket for a day, and somehow got a scratch down the middle of the screen. If its gorilla glass, its not as good as other screens.
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Get the Steinheil Ultra Crystal (http://www.sgpstore.com/cell-phone/...-screen-protector-steinheil-ultra-series.html). You'll never notice it's on without looking waaay too closely at your phone.
Are those screen protectors or tampons? The boxes threw me off.
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Are those screen protectors or tampons? The boxes threw me off.
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Well, I would assume screen protectors, but then I've never spent much time looking at tampon boxes.
OT.
tbcpn said:
Get the Steinheil Ultra Crystal (http://www.sgpstore.com/cell-phone/...-screen-protector-steinheil-ultra-series.html). You'll never notice it's on without looking waaay too closely at your phone.
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+100
Also buy from their ebay store and you'll get free shipping.
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entraik said:
and nothing but some scuffs which i was able to wipe off...does this mean that my TB has the good glass? i hate screen protectors and never needed one with the droid... so hopefully i wont need one for this... i hate the verizon one they put on for me... took it off
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Well... that was dumb.
I have one of the anti glare ones from the VZW store. Hurts my eyes to look through this thing.
OP must have money to burn. I have a zagg screen cover but I would never key my phone on purpose
I have a nice 1/2" scratch right along the upper middle of my screen. Don't know what caused it but its deep, my finger nail catches on it if i rub it across it. The glass isn't that tough.
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Get the Steinheil Ultra Crystal... You'll never notice it's on without looking waaay too closely at your phone.
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I second this. I cant even see the thing on my screen (unless you look at the seam at the bottom).
Heh, keys are nothing. I keep my TB without any covers in my pocket for most of the day. I can throw anything in there with the phone and have no damage. Ironically enough though, the one day I have it in there with nothing else, I have a nice slash right down the screen. The little specks of crap that lay around your pockets are what do the damage, not the big things.
i think you guys might have faulty glass... i dunno..it seems tough to me.. way tougher than my iphone for sure...
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I second this. I cant even see the thing on my screen (unless you look at the seam at the bottom).
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It also feels like I'm actually touching the glass.
Try scratching it with a rusty nail to see what happens. Oh and can you record it and post on YouTube so we can all see!?
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Rub some sand/gravel on it next time. You probably wont get as lucky. Typical keys are made out of mild steel so it would make sense that the glass might resist heavy damage. Have you turned your screen off and examined in good light? The bolt does supposedly have GG. I'd still get a screen protector, with a good one you'll never know it was there, the vzw one is a pos.
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definetly does NOT have guerilla glass
Got this from Droid Forums (where I frequent most of the time)
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/htc-thunderbolt/120972-will-tb-have-gorilla-glass.html
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/#featured-products
Thunderbolt is listed as having Gorilla Glass.
gotcha13 said:
definetly does NOT have guerilla glass
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Yes it does, See the attached pic or go here http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=gorilla%2520glass&utm_campaign=Branded%2520Gorilla%2520Glass#featured-products
Look at the HTC Products
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Have you tried microfiber cloth to see if it will come off?
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I don't own a Nexus S (I'm here doing research ) but that seems like something normal?
If you have a protected surface next to unprotected ones on the same area, it'll get less UV exposure and there will be some very light wear on the unprotected areas that might look perfect to your eye but because of these micro abrasions they're more likely to retain oil/dust/etc.
One of the very main reasons why I don't like screen protectors is that the phone doesn't "age" uniformly .
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1st you bought the device used for a YEAR .. what do you expect ?
2nd As long as you can make calls from it , why do you care ? some people bought used Nexuses and they can't even call lol
3rd Do you have an IMEI ? that's good
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So if you are such a passionate phone owner , why didn't you buy a new device so you can enjoy the screen ? You bought it used man ! Then you come here to complain ? See the recent posts of second hand buyers and thank god you have a working second hand nexus s.
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Election Day said:
How is this complaining? I am simply asking if anyone else has experience with the issue and maybe found a solution. That is all. If no one knows, I might find something out myself. And if I don't, maybe it will fade over time, and otherwise I'll just have to ignore it.
And by the way, I would have bought a new one if they were still for sale here, but they weren't. I had to choose between importing for €600 or this second-hand for €140. I don't think it was such a bad choice in the end, but that's no reason to not try and make the best of it.
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I see the point here ....
It seems that buying a new Nexus S online was not an option available for you ....
However , I would not spend more time trying to clean the screen with different things , those screen are fragile and I'm sure you don't wanna mess it up more than it is ...
Goodluck.
Honestly, who protects just the "touchscreen" part of the screen?
I mean as much as I can gather from the pictures, the screen protector only covered the 4 inch screen not the whole front of the phone. Was it cheaper or something?
It's normal for the oleophobic coating to fade. Not using any screen protector from now on will probably result in it evening out in time.
If it's that distracting, just buy a full size screen protector, clean the screen really well and apply it. Wet application screen protectors are best on the nexus because they stick to the curved screen better.
Cheers
What Flukzr said, the screen would have been fine if it was a full size screen protector. I've never actually seen a protector that is JUST for the 4-inch screen and not the whole glass front.
Sadly there is not much you can do aside from replacing the glass, the oleophobic coating at the top and bottom has worn out (i believe this requires the lcd/amoled back too). However, you can use a full size screen protector and you shouldn't notice it.
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I'm guessing the only way to naturally remove the coating, would be to use it without a pouch, and keep it in you pants' (jeans) pocket.
Not that I'm recommending this, but you could try solvents, nail polish thinner (acetone), lighter fluid, alcohol etc. and see which one works. Since the screen is glass, it should be ok, unless you use acid or really strong solvents.
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Just a thought...
If this discoloration is driving you ape s#!t, consider purchasing a new digitizer... Once again this is just a thought, as I do not own a Nexus. I was just surfing and thought I'd add my 2 cents...
Hope I helped
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LOL, I've never seen anything like this. who protects only those 4 inches of the screen? when i read the title of this thread i got a little worried since i use a screen protector on my nexus s but mine covers the whole thing so i think I'm in the clear.
Honestly i think your best option here is to just use a screen protector on the whole screen. Or just leaving it alone and hopefully let time do its thing. I guess you have to choose which one bothers you less, the annoying rectangle or a screen protector.
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Noticed that from the place where my thumb usually makes up/down scroll is strange area, and even I clean the screen, this area is still there. See Yourself - I made a picture, clean screen, water steam (breath), and this middle area is the problem. My thumb is normal, I'm a normal user and I had newer such problem with any phone.
Is the Gorilla Glass really so bad or is it coated with some stuff which is just coming off?
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Noticed that from the place where my thumb usually makes up/down scroll is strange area, and even I clean the screen, this area is still there. See Yourself - I made a picture, clean screen, water steam (breath), and this middle area is the problem. My thumb is normal, I'm a normal usre and I had newer such problem with any phone.
Is the Gorilla Glass really so bad or is it coated with some stuff which is just coming off?
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woow thats something new..and AFAIK gorilla glass has no coating. what so ever
Do you have some kind scree guard or something?
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woow thats something new..and AFAIK gorilla glass has no coating. what so ever
Do you have some kind scree guard or something?
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No, I have not used any kind of screen cover, but seems that Moto G screen is covered with the the water-resistance coating and this is failing off - it's clearly visible when cleaning the screen with some liquid, only this area stays wet.
But I don't think this is normal behavior. I can't imagine what the power users screen is now or will be later. I contacted with the Amazon ( I have one dead pixel too), let's see what they say.
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No, I have not used any kind of screen cover, but seems that Moto G screen is covered with the the water-resistance coating and this is failing off - it's clearly visible when cleaning the screen with some liquid, only this area stays wet.
But I don't think this is normal behavior. I can't imagine what the power users screen is now or will be later. I contacted with the Amazon ( I have one dead pixel too), let's see what they say.
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If it contains a dead pixel better get a replacement, all the best for that.
BTW water repellent coating is done on the internals of the device.
abhirulz94 said:
If it contains a dead pixel better get a replacement, all the best for that.
BTW water repellent coating is done on the internals of the device.
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I know about internal coating. But as You see, the screen is also coated. I have the proof.
I made a test, sprayed water to the screen, and as You see, the damaged area stays wet, while the rest rejects it.
The question is - do I have faulty screen or this will happen to everyone sooner or later?
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I know about internal coating. But as You see, the screen is also coated. I have the proof.
I made a test, sprayed water to the screen, and as You see, the damaged area stays wet, while the rest rejects it.
The question is - do I have faulty screen or this will happen to everyone sooner or later?
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well you are the first one to report something like this and i agree with you because this might happen with others also sooner or later. Its very much possible that your screen is faulty since you mentioned its new (maybe the screen had tiny dust particle before the coating took place) many members are using the phone without any screen-guard but none have mentioned anything like this..A lot of member have got dead pixels on their screens and got them replaced.
I'm using a screen guard since the screen will get scratched over the time.
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well you are the first one to report something like this and i agree with you because this might happen with others also sooner or later. Its very much possible that your screen is faulty since you mentioned its new (maybe the screen had tiny dust particle before the coating took place) many members are using the phone without any screen-guard but none have mentioned anything like this..A lot of member have got dead pixels on their screens and got them replaced.
I'm using a screen guard since the screen will get scratched over the time.
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Well, Amazon just replied and they will replace it with the new one, so I have to wait for the new one and later send the old one back. Let's hope that this one's screen ( I still don't like to add the screen protector, as it's kind of ugly) will last longer.
If you apply the screen protector carefully, you won't even know it's on! It's your choice tough but what you reported is pretty worrying. That area of the screen seems too big tough for it to be a thumb, (you touch with just the tip of the thumb) do it was probably already a little damaged when you got it and with the time it got bigger and bigger. Or maybe you scratched your screen somehow?
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the is an oliophobic coating on the screen of the moto g (part of the gorilla glas). this is also the reason why you generally get less fingerprints on the display than on a screen protector and why it's much easier to clean the display than the scren protector
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If you apply the screen protector carefully, you won't even know it's on! It's your choice tough but what you reported is pretty worrying. That area of the screen seems too big tough for it to be a thumb, (you touch with just the tip of the thumb) do it was probably already a little damaged when you got it and with the time it got bigger and bigger. Or maybe you scratched your screen somehow?
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I'm 100% sure that I haven't scratched the screen purposely, juts normal, id even say careful using. And if I clean the screen, it's bright and like a new, impossible to detect any damages, also this problematic area is clean and shiny. But when I touch it or spray water etc, it's clearly visible. So choices are:
1) Add screen protector (let someone do it, once I added it to iPhone and the result was terrible).
2) Polish the whole screen, so that this coating is removed.
3) Replace.
4) Ignore.
blockbusta said:
the is an oliophobic coating on the screen of the moto g (part of the gorilla glas). this is also the reason why you generally get less fingerprints on the display than on a screen protector and why it's much easier to clean the display than the scren protector
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Yes, You are right, it's anti-fingerprint oleophobic coating and be warned, seems it's just won't last.