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4MB SD memory card

My Qtek 9000 cannot recognize 4GB SD card (DANE-ELETC)
Your help much appreciated.
Rom 2.05.00
Rom Date 04/09/07
Radio V. 1.15.00
Protocol 42.51.P8

I guess you mean 4Gb SD Card.
Is it SDHC?
If so, then it would be worth looking in the Universal accessories board at what people have to say, which is 'no' for the sdhc cards.
I bought a 4 Gb card but it is a non-sdhc type so that it would work.
Cheers
Fish

I can't seem to find the manufacturer's website. Can you post the the spec sheet of the model you have got?

fishtastic said:
I guess you mean 4Gb SD Card.
Is it SDHC?
If so, then it would be worth looking in the Universal accessories board at what people have to say, which is 'no' for the sdhc cards.
I bought a 4 Gb card but it is a non-sdhc type so that it would work.
Cheers
Fish
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Yes is a SDHC, So the qtek 9000 need a non=sdhc type 4Gb Card.
Thank you
jose

josedias said:
Yes is a SDHC, So the qtek 9000 need a non=sdhc type 4Gb Card.
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Exactly...I'm using a 4Gb transcend non-HC and it's works find ...!! I heard about problems concerning the SDHC for the universal... Maybe you should change your SD

Transcend 4GB 'SD' card getting corrupted repeatedly
I have one annoying problem,It is the third time that my Transcend 4GB SD card got corrupted without any reason ( as far as I know ).
It goes like this --I just moved one .jpg image ( clicked with my Universal ) from main memory to card -- a my document--my pictures folder,then I checked it ,the entire my document folder is empty..around 150 MB.No data recovery tool can retrieve it.
The default file explorer and Resco explore read the card differently --950 Mb and 1100 MB respectively.The data is gone,the space 150 MB is gone.On previous two occasions,there was not any transfer of any data from device to card yet it happened .I had the card replaced,but it is very annoying to live in this impending possibility of losing the data.
What is the cause of this problem?WM6?Universal?ROM?4GB?Transcend?
I never had this problem with 1 GB cards.What is the solution?Please suggest something,anything.

There are a couple of WM6 roms which can corrupt your SD card.
But it shouldn't make a difference if you have a 512 mb card or 4 gb.
Did you upgrade to WM6 and then got the 4gb card?
You could try to flash back to the original wm5 rom from your manufacturer, good change the problem's gone then.

ROM change?
No Sir,
I did have this problem with WM5 and to get rid of it I shifted to WM6,but the problem persists.Other people with WM5/6 with 'NCP' 4GB are doing fine,I am also going to try it.Like I said I never had any problems with 1GB.
I like the HTML mail support in WM6 and I need it for the attachments so I'd rather keep WM6.
One more thing, the file explorer SOMETIMES shows two separate folders viz. storage card 1 & storage card 2, and in storage card 1 there are only files called mail attachments.At the same time all the today shortcuts and programmes on the card are 'uninstalled',Then I have to hard reset and install the back-up file and everything comes to normal.What does it mean?Please clarify.

kalya said:
One more thing, the file explorer SOMETIMES shows two separate folders viz. storage card 1 & storage card 2, and in storage card 1 there are only files called mail attachments.At the same time all the today shortcuts and programmes on the card are 'uninstalled',Then I have to hard reset and install the back-up file and everything comes to normal.What does it mean?Please clarify.
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This is a known issue. Sometimes the system forgets about the exixstence of SD card. You can brows here for such cases. People claim that it happens while the battery goes low or for some other reason.
However, if this happens, and some of your apps are set up for using Storage Card for saving it's data, then the system creates a folder named "Storage Card" in the main memory. Then if you softreset or recharge your device, the system finds again your SD card and tries to give it a name "Storadge Card", but this already exists, so it names it as "Storadge Card1", and so on.
Solution:
Ither delete the "Storage Card" folder from main memory or rename it as you wish, and then rename your card as "Storage Card" and softreset your device. It should help.

okay
Tadeusz said:
This is a known issue. Sometimes the system forgets about the exixstence of SD card. You can brows here for such cases. People claim that it happens while the battery goes low or for some other reason.
However, if this happens, and some of your apps are set up for using Storage Card for saving it's data, then the system creates a folder named "Storage Card" in the main memory. Then if you softreset or recharge your device, the system finds again your SD card and tries to give it a name "Storadge Card", but this already exists, so it names it as "Storadge Card1", and so on.
Solution:
Ither delete the "Storage Card" folder from main memory or rename it as you wish, and then rename your card as "Storage Card" and softreset your device. It should help.
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Okay,
Thanks for explaining and the simple solution.
But a soft reset doesn't solve it,reinstalling the backup(I use SPB)does.
But what about the card getting corrupted,losing data and vanishing folders?Is there any cause and solution for it? Or should I go for another card manufacturer as decided?

i have tested 1 gig sdhc
i have tested 1 gig sdhc toshiba class4 and it worked on universal

onlineemails said:
i have tested 1 gig sdhc toshiba class4 and it worked on universal
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SDHC start at 2gb, you have a normal SD.
Native universal SD driver does not support SDHC, the driver ignores CMD8 that is required for SDHC to work. I've purchased 8Gb card and can tell that after patching - Uni started to recognize it. But testing is required before publishing a patch.

mamaich said:
SDHC start at 2gb, you have a normal SD.
Native universal SD driver does not support SDHC, the driver ignores CMD8 that is required for SDHC to work. I've purchased 8Gb card and can tell that after patching - Uni started to recognize it. But testing is required before publishing a patch.
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mamaich, you are wonderful.

mamaich said:
SDHC start at 2gb, you have a normal SD.
Native universal SD driver does not support SDHC, the driver ignores CMD8 that is required for SDHC to work. I've purchased 8Gb card and can tell that after patching - Uni started to recognize it. But testing is required before publishing a patch.
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Does this patch involve physically deforming the SD Card such that its lifetime warranty (lifetime warranty is applicable to some SD cards only) becomes void?

Does this patch involve physically deforming the SD Card such that its lifetime warranty (lifetime warranty is applicable to some SD cards only) becomes void?
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LOL
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"Native universal SD driver does not support SDHC, the driver ignores CMD8 that is required for SDHC to work. I've purchased 8Gb card and can tell that after patching - Uni started to recognize it. But testing is required before publishing a patch"
Can it work with the Universal running WM5?
Thanks

FOSA said:
Can it work with the Universal running WM5?
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Very curious to hear the answer to this as well!!

FOSA said:
Can it work with the Universal running WM5?
Thanks
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no. WM6 aku 0.2 and later are required.

mamaich said:
LOL
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I always wished a scenario would come up where I could ask such a question and make it seem valid at the same time

How about 4GB SDHC?
If 8GB SDHC can be used then how about using a 4GB SDHC card?
And please make it possible,soon,Mamaich.Thanks.

software for memory to storage card

is there any software that i can use my storage card to memory? what i mean is i will use the memory of my storage card instead of the main memory... coz the memory left in my main memory is 10 mb including the programs..... hope someone help me tnx

ooggo said:
is there any software that i can use my storage card to memory? what i mean is i will use the memory of my storage card instead of the main memory... coz the memory left in my main memory is 10 mb including the programs..... hope someone help me tnx
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How about transferring your Programs from the main memory to the SD Card. easy eh...

well ive tried that but i usually remove my memory card and insert the another memory card for listening music... and the case is i cannot access my application if i transfer it to my memory card.. but thanks anyway bro...

ooggo said:
well ive tried that but i usually remove my memory card and insert the another memory card for listening music... and the case is i cannot access my application if i transfer it to my memory card.. but thanks anyway bro...
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Ah ok i get what you're saying, first you cannot use the SD card as substitute for RAM, think of this situation, if you even were able to do it, it is so slow to even be of use, and second, SD consumes alot of power, and most of the time you need RAM to use your applications, so in the event of losing battery power you risk losing or corrupting your data.. The solution is quite simple really...just buy a larger card like 2gb or 4gb sd cards(just search on how to make 4gb sd cards work) they're cheap nowadays anyway.

ooggo said:
is there any software that i can use my storage card to memory? what i mean is i will use the memory of my storage card instead of the main memory... coz the memory left in my main memory is 10 mb including the programs..... hope someone help me tnx
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try using software like wincab installer on pc..it wil ask u for installing da software on phone memory or storage card thru active sync...helps alot if u're running low on phone memory!

I think i've read in some forum that there's a software that lets you move applications installed in main memory to sd cards, complete with registry settings and all that.. this could be a solution too, anyone knows what this software might be? I could use it myself..

Hot swapping sdhc cards

I'm new to Windows Mobile devices, having previously only used friends' before. I have orderer the Touch Pro, but I think this is more a general question, so I'm posting it here.
Is it safe to swap the SDHC cards while the device is on? I have ordered an 8GB card, but I also have a 4GB card already. I was wondering if I can put movies for example on the 4GB, while having music and everything else on the 8GB. This means I can bring more data with me.
Some programs will be installed on the storage card, so what happens when the card they are installed on is removed?
Also, is it best to install most things on the storage card or internal? I've seen reports of some programs not working well or at all unless installed internally. Is that common? Id rather not fill up the internal storage too fast.
Thank you

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ur 4 gb card will prolly load up the appz much faster then the 8gb , i hate how slow my sandisk 8gb card is compared to my 4gb patriot card
definitely try to get the more xpensive higher speed cards
sum progs only work if u install it to the device memory and not the SDMMC
when u take out ur sdcard , and put in another one, u prolly gotta reboot so the pda can refresh/view it
to transfer files i use softick card exporter v3.12
GL

ok, but what happens to programs? are the links still in the programs folder after the sdhc card they were installed on is removed?
if i have tomtom on the 4gb card and the rest on the 8gb card, will everything work ok without having to restart between swaps?

Jiggs1337 said:
ok, but what happens to programs? are the links still in the programs folder after the sdhc card they were installed on is removed?
if i have tomtom on the 4gb card and the rest on the 8gb card, will everything work ok without having to restart between swaps?
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Any program you install on a card, if you remove the card, of course the program icons won't work. Just plug the card back in, no need to soft reset and it will work.
I suggest, use your 4 GB card for ALL your programs including TomTom with maps, so you can place all your videos and music on the bigger 8 GB card. I doubt you can fill the 4 GB with just programs, unless TomTom's maps are bigger than 4 GB. That way, the only time you have to insert the 8 GB card is during music and video playing.
Better yet, try installing ALL your programs on the 8 GB card, even music and video files. I am sure you will keep all your music files. For the video files, if you are like myself who after watching the converted DVD files, deletes them off the card so to place a new DVD movie file to watch. THERE IS NO NEED TO TAKE OFF THE CARD FROM THE DEVICE, all you need is WM5torage which is a FREE program that will let you view the card as an External Disk Drive. In other words, WM5torage turns your device into an instant card reader without removing the card itself from the device with just a push of a button. So deleting or file transfer is WAAAAYYYYY faster than using active sync.

SD as program memory

Is possible use a part of my micro-SD on wm6 as program memory?

In a word, no.
Have a look at an SD card. There are only 8 contacts on it. It behaves as a serial disk drive as far as your phone/PPC is concerned, even though it attached to the "\Storage Card" mount point. The storage can be used by the phone but it is not directly addressable by the 32 bits of the CPU. It can only be paged in and out similar to the swap file on your PC.

Ok...
thanks for the reply
Is there any programm that allows you to use it as swap?
(Do you mean something as the virtual panging that windows do on the hard disk?)

Sorry, I think it's still no.
There is a lot of chatter on this over at
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2005/11/17/494177.aspx
But the prognosis does not look good.

the least you can do is install as many applications as you can on your storage card...
tho not all apps can be installed on it.
remember, that if you used any software to make a part of the SD card become program storage space you will be still experiencing the same need to move page files to the ram before it can be used by the device.. so there's actually no point in doing that.

the least you can do is install as many applications as you can on your storage card...
tho not all apps can be installed on it.
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Yes... in fact i usually try to install apps on the flash memory... but lots need to be situated on the main memory... and the hermes don't has much of it...
Thanks a lot for the reply
(ps... sorry I'm not english and i could have written same/lots of mistakes..)

unfortunately ram isn't expandable on pdas..
again, the best you can do is install as many apps as you can on your storage card.

[Q] Treat sd card as internal memory?

I have been searching for some time and cant find a definite answer on the subject,
is there a way to make android believe your sd card is internal storage? i dont plan on needing to remove my sd card, once i have it in, theres no point in removing it. So is there a hack/mod to allow the OS to believe the sd card is internal storage?
i have a desire so the internal memory is pretty damn low, especially with new games coming out that require 400mb+ of memory, thats almost the full internal drive.
anyways. any information is appreciated thanks

Sounds like you're asking about apps2sd. Yes it is possible, though you'll need a rooted phone and a ROM which supports it.

alright, well i have googles fail of app2sd on android 2.2
but a rooted app2sd+ or other style of app2sd actually allows for the sd card to be treated as though it is internal storage? or i still need to install, and then move to external.
in other words i guess, is there a way to make the sd card be treated similary to how it is in windows phone 7, or is hte conventional install, them move, which would render games with 400mb+ impossible to be installed on phones like the desire and N1?

JimmyBanks said:
alright, well i have googles fail of app2sd on android 2.2
but a rooted app2sd+ or other style of app2sd actually allows for the sd card to be treated as though it is internal storage? or i still need to install, and then move to external.
in other words i guess, is there a way to make the sd card be treated similary to how it is in windows phone 7, or is hte conventional install, them move, which would render games with 400mb+ impossible to be installed on phones like the desire and N1?
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I know that with a custom ROM like Cyanogen there is a system option to install apps (in correlation with app2sd) as default to any location you choose, I have mine to install on External, so any new app's I download from the market are automatically installed to the External storage (SDcard).
So, yes?