SD as program memory - General Questions and Answers

Is possible use a part of my micro-SD on wm6 as program memory?

In a word, no.
Have a look at an SD card. There are only 8 contacts on it. It behaves as a serial disk drive as far as your phone/PPC is concerned, even though it attached to the "\Storage Card" mount point. The storage can be used by the phone but it is not directly addressable by the 32 bits of the CPU. It can only be paged in and out similar to the swap file on your PC.

Ok...
thanks for the reply
Is there any programm that allows you to use it as swap?
(Do you mean something as the virtual panging that windows do on the hard disk?)

Sorry, I think it's still no.
There is a lot of chatter on this over at
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2005/11/17/494177.aspx
But the prognosis does not look good.

the least you can do is install as many applications as you can on your storage card...
tho not all apps can be installed on it.
remember, that if you used any software to make a part of the SD card become program storage space you will be still experiencing the same need to move page files to the ram before it can be used by the device.. so there's actually no point in doing that.

the least you can do is install as many applications as you can on your storage card...
tho not all apps can be installed on it.
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Yes... in fact i usually try to install apps on the flash memory... but lots need to be situated on the main memory... and the hermes don't has much of it...
Thanks a lot for the reply
(ps... sorry I'm not english and i could have written same/lots of mistakes..)

unfortunately ram isn't expandable on pdas..
again, the best you can do is install as many apps as you can on your storage card.

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software for memory to storage card

is there any software that i can use my storage card to memory? what i mean is i will use the memory of my storage card instead of the main memory... coz the memory left in my main memory is 10 mb including the programs..... hope someone help me tnx
ooggo said:
is there any software that i can use my storage card to memory? what i mean is i will use the memory of my storage card instead of the main memory... coz the memory left in my main memory is 10 mb including the programs..... hope someone help me tnx
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How about transferring your Programs from the main memory to the SD Card. easy eh...
well ive tried that but i usually remove my memory card and insert the another memory card for listening music... and the case is i cannot access my application if i transfer it to my memory card.. but thanks anyway bro...
ooggo said:
well ive tried that but i usually remove my memory card and insert the another memory card for listening music... and the case is i cannot access my application if i transfer it to my memory card.. but thanks anyway bro...
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Ah ok i get what you're saying, first you cannot use the SD card as substitute for RAM, think of this situation, if you even were able to do it, it is so slow to even be of use, and second, SD consumes alot of power, and most of the time you need RAM to use your applications, so in the event of losing battery power you risk losing or corrupting your data.. The solution is quite simple really...just buy a larger card like 2gb or 4gb sd cards(just search on how to make 4gb sd cards work) they're cheap nowadays anyway.
ooggo said:
is there any software that i can use my storage card to memory? what i mean is i will use the memory of my storage card instead of the main memory... coz the memory left in my main memory is 10 mb including the programs..... hope someone help me tnx
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try using software like wincab installer on pc..it wil ask u for installing da software on phone memory or storage card thru active sync...helps alot if u're running low on phone memory!
I think i've read in some forum that there's a software that lets you move applications installed in main memory to sd cards, complete with registry settings and all that.. this could be a solution too, anyone knows what this software might be? I could use it myself..

Main Memory Being Eaten Up

I've been installing plenty of programs on my SD card recently and I have xda mobile 6 rom. Everytime I install a program though, it still makes its way to my windows file directory that over a course of installing programs, it accumulates and takes over space. Is there a way to solve this problem permanently by installing those "install" files onto my sd card only?
Or perhaps using total comander to move the files around and it would still work despite not being in my main memory windows directory on the phone. It should really be on the storage card.
If any one could help me out with this problem, because I went from having 45mb on my main storage to only having only 25mb despite me "installing" the files on the storage card which they appear to be on there, but my main memory is still being eaten up,
much thanks in advance.
Sorry if you thought of this already, but have you configured Pocket Outlook to store your email and attachments on the storage card? by default, they are stored on main memory.
also, there is a problem with system files being deployed in the memory card since the initial read is from the main memory. those files can't move to the memory card.. or... maybe they can, but not in a regular.. altering registry or installation a program way.
ineluki-I don't use pocket outlook at all. And everyone that I have moved onto the memory card, I did already.
nir36-is there anyway to move those install files away from the main memory since registry alteration doesn't work?
does anyone know of any way to move this around?
unfortunatly, you can't move those files without altering the base of the device. if there is another way, it's not a way i know about.. but it's unlikely you can use your system files from your SD card.. sorry

MicroSD or Internal Memory?

Hello everyone I'm just wondering what is "better?" To install applications to the MicroSD or to the internal memory? I mean, for example, if it's an application that I rarely use, I'm sure everyone will say "MicroSD" but if it's an application that's constantly in use? What is better? Or does it not make a difference? Does it eat up a lot of memory constantly writing to the micro SD? or does it not make a difference in that sense either?
Do most people install to Micro or Internal Memory?
zkyevolved said:
Does it eat up a lot of memory constantly writing to the micro SD?
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Nope. However, older firmwares may consume a lot (about 5-6M, as opposed to better-optimzied ones with only 500k-1M) of additional RAM memory with the card in. I recommend my previous storage- and firmware updaterelated articles; I've answered all your questions in them.
Add the poll question "Equally Both" as I split mine between them. There are Apps I have found the run better on main and the ones that don't matter, I put on Memory card.
mchapman007 said:
Add the poll question "Equally Both" as I split mine between them. There are Apps I have found the run better on main and the ones that don't matter, I put on Memory card.
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Likewise. In fact, there are some applications that tell you during installation that it would be better to install them on the device's main memory.
Sure! How do I change the poll ?
I have read that HTC Diamond isn't having Memory Card Slot...It's really very disappointing.
12ka4 said:
I have read that HTC Diamond isn't having Memory Card Slot...It's really very disappointing.
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... and this is relevant to the thread how?
i like storing most of my apps on memory card as i don't like using system memory not unless a app doesn't work right from sd card.
Like most, I put everything on the memory card unless the developer specifically states that it should be installed in main memory.
If it's a program that runs all the time, such as a today plugin, then it would be prudent to install it on internal memory to avoid problems. Everything else can go on the storage card.
I'm going to disagree with the majority here (as usual...)
I think you should you use as much of the internal memory that is available as possible. Why? First, it is faster to read/write to flash ROM than to MicroSD (flash also). Second, I believe it uses less power. Third, IS THERE AND CAN"T BE USED FOR ANYTHING ELSE! (just like my 401K). I know in ancient times, when I loved my iPaq 2210, you only had RAM memory for both programs to run and storage of files. Then you could adjust a slider to assign or reserve more space either way. But, AFAIK, in my Hermes, they are two physically different memory locations, so why don't use the storage memory? Of course, there should be some free storage memory always available for temp files and other stuff that changes over time.
Anyway, just my opinion.
dgaud007 said:
Second, I believe it uses less power.
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That's exactly what I'd like to know. Is the power usage to R/W onto the SD disk that much higher? Or is it insignificantly low? Also, I agree, a program that CONSTATLY uses the memory card to read / write would MOST LIKELY use more power than installed on the main memory.

SK Tools-installation on memory or sd card?

What is the recommended installation location for SK Tools( v.4.5.1.4)?
Is the installation on the card will not interfere with its certain features of the program and the speed of his actions?
makes no diff
must be on device..
saurabh88 said:
must be on device..
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Why? I installed it on my storage card and it works great.
Cheers,
Arnold
Moved as not software release.
It's better to have it on main memory. You won't be able to use some of the memory card tools if it's on your sd card. You definitely can't format a card with it on the card, and I'm not sure if you can scan the card, either.
But similar programs such as Pocket Mechanic installed on the sd card is able to defragment the card ... So the support functions of the card on which they are installed.
You're still not going to able to format, though. It's also faster on main memory, or at least it should be. Just check the boot time in benchmarking.

[Q] Treat sd card as internal memory?

I have been searching for some time and cant find a definite answer on the subject,
is there a way to make android believe your sd card is internal storage? i dont plan on needing to remove my sd card, once i have it in, theres no point in removing it. So is there a hack/mod to allow the OS to believe the sd card is internal storage?
i have a desire so the internal memory is pretty damn low, especially with new games coming out that require 400mb+ of memory, thats almost the full internal drive.
anyways. any information is appreciated thanks
Sounds like you're asking about apps2sd. Yes it is possible, though you'll need a rooted phone and a ROM which supports it.
alright, well i have googles fail of app2sd on android 2.2
but a rooted app2sd+ or other style of app2sd actually allows for the sd card to be treated as though it is internal storage? or i still need to install, and then move to external.
in other words i guess, is there a way to make the sd card be treated similary to how it is in windows phone 7, or is hte conventional install, them move, which would render games with 400mb+ impossible to be installed on phones like the desire and N1?
JimmyBanks said:
alright, well i have googles fail of app2sd on android 2.2
but a rooted app2sd+ or other style of app2sd actually allows for the sd card to be treated as though it is internal storage? or i still need to install, and then move to external.
in other words i guess, is there a way to make the sd card be treated similary to how it is in windows phone 7, or is hte conventional install, them move, which would render games with 400mb+ impossible to be installed on phones like the desire and N1?
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I know that with a custom ROM like Cyanogen there is a system option to install apps (in correlation with app2sd) as default to any location you choose, I have mine to install on External, so any new app's I download from the market are automatically installed to the External storage (SDcard).
So, yes?

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