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hi,
actually, i can assign any of the phone buttons, but they still don't work in the game. anyone know how i can get it to work? registry/system hack or something?
thanks,
msafi,
What do they do when you assign and press the keys?
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vijay555, they do nothing. nothing at all.
this problem is consistent not only with PocketNester, but also with any other application. the phone buttons aren't assign-able to any functionality. again, they may be assigned successfully, but they still woudn't work when you try to actually use them.
fixing this problem would add a lot to my device's functionality.
msafi: what device are you using, and what OS? You might consider setting these details in your profile to make it easier to respond, or post in a more specific thread. However, generally, consider using the application AEButtonPlus to make the red and green phone buttons assignable.
You can use my program VJKeyPress to assign certain keys to the red and green keys, and then assign them using PocketNester (hopefully).
V
vijay555, thanks for the reply. i''m using HTC Wizard with WM5 of course. AE button plus isn't compatible,
so in light of this new information, do you still recommend VJKeyPress?
thanks
Are you sure AEButtonPlus isn't compatible? I'm using a universal and it's ok, but I'm sure a few guys are using it on the Wizard.
However, if not AEButtonPlus, I think buttonMax might be compatible.
VJKeypress is merely to assign a notional key to the red/green buttons. These buttons normally generate an F4 and F5 (I think) keycode, but while the cprog.exe app is running, this will intercept them. So either kill the phone app (VJPhoneToggle will do that) or assign new keypresses to them using AE etc and VJKeyPress.
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i tried closing the phone application by using VJPhoneToggle but that didn't produce the desired effect.
ae button plus works with HTC Wizard but it screws up the hold button.
any how, i tried ae button plus and was able to assign the green/red buttons to different functions. i tried assigning them to <None> then using them with PocketNester, but that didn't produce any good results. I tried assigning them <start menu> or <Ok/Close> and then assigning those in PocketNester by using the qwerty keyboard, but that still didn't work.
anyway, there is something i'd like to try. i want to assign the red button to a VJKeyPress which will press the Explorer key, and assign the explorer key to the button i want in the emulator.
the problem is, i don't know how to use VJKeypress. after i download and install the file, how do i run it with commandline shortcut? or what's a commandline shortcut?
thanks,
ok, i figured out how to use vjtools and command lines.
however, i couldn't determine the parameter number to pass to vjkeypress to simulate a hardware button press. for example, what is the parameter number that will simulate a press on the Explorer button of my HTC Wizard?
what i tried in PocketNester is: i assigned the Windows Key of my Wizard's qwerty to the B button of PocketNester. Then i assigned a vjkeypress.exe 91, which is a start menu click, to the red phone button, but that didn't produce the desired effect, of course, since i didn't really tie the red button to the Windows Key of my qwerty keyboard. i just made the two buttons have the same functionality!!
if i know what the Explorer button parameter is, i will try it.
I'm not really familiar with the keyboard of the Wizard, never used one.
There's obviously a long list of keycodes on my website, but have you tried assigning any test key and tried that in PocketNester? Obviously if the basic idea doesn't work, there's no point in you perservering with this route!
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Has anyone come up with working solution for mapping hw keys?
I found this thread on Diamond, but no help:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398280
I am using AEKMap to enable both latin/cyrillic input on my TP's hw keyboard. You may google it and give it a try.
There is no need for additional software, just follow this post and you'll get the answer. Worked for me.
Try AE Button Plus.
B.
I think you did not quite follow me here.
I dont mean to change layout of QWERTY, but hw-keys like "Back" and "Home" at front panel of TP.
This is becaus I find home and back quite useless and would much more prefer to have ALT+TAB (change program) and close program (REALLY close them, not leave running background as back seems to randomly do).
Taajuus said:
I think you did not quite follow me here.
I dont mean to change layout of QWERTY, but hw-keys like "Back" and "Home" at front panel of TP.
This is becaus I find home and back quite useless and would much more prefer to have ALT+TAB (change program) and close program (REALLY close them, not leave running background as back seems to randomly do).
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And that is EXACTLY what i also want to know....
The total lack of hardware-keys on this device is already disturbing enough, but being locked out of the option to remap any of them is truely horrid...
Anyone know of any reg-hacks maybe?
I've got Spb PocketPlus 4 installed btw, and it's got a button mapping function as well...
But when i go into the buttons map, some weird black icons appear with no name attached to it. Can anyone make anything of this? As you can see i've been able to map one thing only: the Spb close-button-contex-menu, which allows me to switch task KW-buttons only....
But this is not enough for me, i need ALT-TAB aswell and off course a VoiceCommand button.
And regrettably the Rapael doesn't have that many HW keys to start with...
I want also to use Home/Back buttons for different purposes,but I didn;t found a solution yet.
Gotten a step closer to what i really need over this weekend:
In the button dialogue (with extra generated buttons by Spb PP+4) there was only one other button that had a name...
So i tried this one and go figure: it seems to be the " <= " (or 'back') button. In the dialogue it's called the OK button. I've got it set to the close contaxt menu now, and mapped Voicecommand to long-pressed answer key...
So far, this setup is to my satisfaction, and after two months of use this phone finaly behaves completely the way i want it to...
Hi, guys.
See my post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2743845#post2743845
Hope this helps!
Cheers.
helped realy much !!! big thx for that nice instructions
You're very welcome, tk_berlin.
You be sure to let me know if anything in there doesn't make sense or you need any help with it.
Cheers from Canada!
ah cool to see a reply that fast ,)
hmm u got any further with finding out how to set the home button and the backwards button ?
Since the other htc user ,) wrote
In the button dialogue (with extra generated buttons by Spb PP+4) there was only one other button that had a name...
So i tried this one and go figure: it seems to be the " <= " (or 'back') button. In the dialogue it's called the OK button. I've got it set to the close contaxt menu now, and mapped Voicecommand to long-pressed answer key...
so it works with SPB PocketPlus ?
there must be a way to get it work wit the other tool
ah cool to see a reply that fast ,)
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Lol. I was on my machine all morning and had XDA open in one of my tabs.
Yes, you can map practically any button in AEBPlus no problem.
hmm u got any further with finding out how to set the home button and the backwards button ?
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AEBP will also *learn* any keys it doesn't have. So you could use the "Add Button" option, press your Home key, and away you go.
The way I have it set up, holding down the phone key will activate voice command (default behavior).
But remember, assigning commands to the Home or OK buttons (that "Back" button is actually an "OK" button) doesn't unmap what they normally do so you will always go home first and then it will perform <x>-function that you assign.
Personally, I don't like to program the Home or OK buttons because I find that they are "trickier" to press. What I mean is, if you tap the OK button near it's center or close to the left, it doesn't register a press. If you tap it sort of with the long part of your thumb (which is more natural when holding the device in one hand), it registers it. I've tried this with two TP's now and the button behaved the same way on both. Due to this, I find it unreliable to map anything to it.
In any case, as I mentioned earlier, the Volume buttons, Phone and End keys will be unmapped once you attach AEBP to them but the others will not.
Oh -- I forgot to mention, you can map the directional pad as well if that is your thing.
so it works with SPB PocketPlus ?
there must be a way to get it work wit the other tool
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It does work, but it sends an OK command first.
I wrote a little utility for hard-coded buttons such as these for another Pocket PC I had (an ASUS P527) called "DoNothing.exe" but we can't apply that work-around here. What I would do is replace the EXEs of apps the hardware keys called with my DoNothing.exe, but in the case of the TP, we definitely don't want to replace START.EXE (which I believe to be the likely EXE (haven't tested this)).
If I find a way to map those buttons reliably, I will let you know, tk_Berlin. So far tho, I've been quite pleased with just using the four buttons I mentioned. The more I use this device and the more I ponder my decision to stay with TFL3D instead of the normal WM interface, the more I realize that I don't need half the add-ons I used to use prior to having TF3D. I am accustomed to very, very, very *heavily* customizing my device, but the setup I have now works great and I really haven't lost nething from my old WM world. In fact, prolly gained a few CPU cycles and memory to boot.
I don't miss the Today Screen at all!!! Now that I think about it, I never really looked at it.
Cya!
Good Evening
I downloaded a PTT fix from http://www.howardforums.com/archive/topic/1054343-1.html & installed the .cab file. It created a button 5 option in my settings/buttons menu. However, when I set that option for camera instead of PTT...it still initializes the PTT vs the camera. I'm going to assume that the PTT is not button 5 on the fuze, hence why it won't work. Does anyone know which button that it might be, and how i could edit that file? or make my own work around?
Thanks
The PTT might be hard wired to the PTT hardware needed for ATT's push to talk, kinda silly really I don't see why they still push this I've yet to meet anyone on ATT who uses this feature, maybe one day ill run into a cunstruction worker who knows.
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I downloaded a PTT fix from http://www.howardforums.com/archive/topic/1054343-1.html & installed the .cab file. It created a button 5 option in my settings/buttons menu. However, when I set that option for camera instead of PTT...it still initializes the PTT vs the camera. I'm going to assume that the PTT is not button 5 on the fuze, hence why it won't work. Does anyone know which button that it might be, and how i could edit that file? or make my own work around?
Thanks
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I'd love to see a solution to this too. I tried the Tilt registry hacks that let you re-map the PTT button but all that did was disable the button completely. (Which is still an improvement because at least now I don't have the PTT message come up every time I accidentally hit that button...)
Black93300ZX said:
CONFIRMED, this is how to keep that annoying PTT message from coming up on American Touch Pro's (Fuze maybe? whatever).
Keep in mind, you can't individually map this button with this method, that may come later.
Step 1: Registry editor, remove HKLM/Services/PTT
Step 2: Create a key in HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Shell/Keys called "40C2"
Step 3: Create a string within that key, titled Name with the value being "Button 6" or whatever
Step 4: Soft reset.
From this point on you can remove 40C2, but your PTT button will simply perform with a press what your send button performs with a hold (which can be remapped easily... Settings/Buttons/Button1(Hold)).
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10 chars..
I were to remove that string after i install the .cab, would that disable PTT,and the settings menu take over?
I realize I can do a registry hack, but I was looking for something that A) would be easy to install/uninstall B) would add an easily accessible option to the settings on the phone.
TazMan1688 said:
I were to remove that string after i install the .cab, would that disable PTT,and the settings menu take over?
I realize I can do a registry hack, but I was looking for something that A) would be easy to install/uninstall B) would add an easily accessible option to the settings on the phone.
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Um that is the easiest way right now.
And it does as B). Just change what Button 1 (Hold) to whatever you want and that's what your PTT button will act as.
Alright, its Button 1...awesome. Now lets see if I can find that setting ;-)
In settings/personal/buttons
...there is only an option for button 5, and button 5(hold). 1-4 do not show up there. How would I go about editing button 1's action?
Thanks alot
I found a program called AE BUTTON PLUS, it allows you to map any hardware button on the device. The PTT button is not listed by default so you need to "add button" it will then ask you to press the hardware button you would like to map, after that it shows up on the list and you can map it... I have found that adjusting long press setting causes issues, but tap and double tap work fine. I have tap disabled since I always hit the key by accident, double tap is Torch. Working fine so far. I believe you can even map individual keys on the keyboard in the same way.
I tried to use AE Button Plus(registered it), and had no luck creating an action for the PTT button. So I followed the registry ediit intructions, again..with no avail.
My PTT is disabled, which as previously stated, is better than nothing.
I would like to clarify two things. Does 40C6, and 40C7 relate to PTT on all devices, or is this a phone by phone basis? 40C6 could be PTT on a tilt, but the touch may be 33D4. Noobish question, but I'm not sure how this stuff works.
Also you said its "Button 1". Again, does this refer to hardware button # 1. Or is this just a random name we give it so we know which one to edit in the buttons menu?
So if I use 40c6, and 40c7 for "Button 1", and "Button 1(hold)"...it should work?
...I also used Button 6 & Button 6 hold as in the Tilt instructions. Same function.
I appreciate the assistance gang!
any1 have any luck?
If you want to remap the PTT button using a cab file (instead of manually doing reg tweaks) just look here: http://www.fuzemobility.com/ptt-remapping-revisited-application/
pretty simple but read the 'update' at the end
Hi. Suppose I just want to remap the long end key press button to something other than the HTC dafault. Do I need AEBPlus for that? I assume that would be a overkill for remapping just one button. The HTC interal app only allows to either display the quick list or make 4 other actions. I was wondering if I can change that to something else without using the AEBPlus app. I just wanted to run the comm manager rather than the htc options
Thanks
Don't get your hopes up about AE Button cause it don't work if your using touch gl. Apparently touch fl keeps regrabning the keys so sometimes they work snd sometimes they dont. I gave up. i think ot might work better with the hold button but like i said i got frustrated snd gaveup when thr suthor told mr there was nothing he could do..
craigwillie said:
Don't get your hopes up about AE Button cause it don't work if your using touch gl. Apparently touch fl keeps regrabning the keys so sometimes they work snd sometimes they dont. I gave up. i think ot might work better with the hold button but like i said i got frustrated snd gaveup when thr suthor told mr there was nothing he could do..
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Actually I don't need it working with the TouchFlo, as I don't use TF. I only want to remap the long end press button to the comm manager. Of course it would have been great to also map a long press on the Home button or the Back button but I think I read that's not possible even without TouchFlo ?
what no one answered ? wow i thought that's easy,a metter of registry or link change. quite disappointing.
I am also looking for a way to change the back button to run some other program...
How to assign a shortcut to EndKey, SendKey ....
Not tried myself on TP, but maybe it's useful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356322
Create a shortcut in your windows directory called long_end.lnk
whatever the shortcut points to will run when you long press the end key.
There are a few of these hard press shortcuts
long_end.lnk
long_send.lnk
long_power.lnk
long_ptt.lnk
short_power.lnk
short_ptt.lnk
I can remap all the buttons except the Long End. Somehow the Long End button is mapped to the phone Lock. Where can I disable that and allow for my own?
Start, settings, system tab, long press end key
if you don't see what you want there ... we might have to figure out how to disable the long press htc software
I cooked my own rom and I didn't put in long press end key. I assumed it wouldn't have installed any reg settings for it, guess I'll have to check. Thanks!
For some reason if you don't add HTC Long End to the ROM, it will stick on one setting and can't be changed. Weird, but fixable. If you install HTC End Key (the cab is somewhere on here) it will override the previous setting and then you can either select your preference from within the program or create a custom link. Not sure about the second idea working, since I haven't tried it myself, but I've been able to override HTC End Key when it was installed on previous phones. You could also consider un-installing it after installing it if all else fails.
baub said:
For some reason if you don't add HTC Long End to the ROM, it will stick on one setting and can't be changed. Weird, but fixable. If you install HTC End Key (the cab is somewhere on here) it will override the previous setting and then you can either select your preference from within the program or create a custom link. Not sure about the second idea working, since I haven't tried it myself, but I've been able to override HTC End Key when it was installed on previous phones. You could also consider un-installing it after installing it if all else fails.
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Yeah, I recooked the Long End Key Press in, but there isn't a custom selection part of it so that must be a different version of End Key software. It's ok not too important.
AEB
Just for those who wonder, AEButton can remap everything (single, double, triple, long presses) on all keys except two: Long Green and Long Red.
You either need to disable Long End Key software or find some other way to hard map these.
Using my HTC Touch Pro. I am still unablet to map the Long press End Key to something other than the limited options that the HTC Long Press End Key program settings offer.
I simply wish to map the long press end key to run a different program. I tried the suggestion offered on this post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1783616#post1783616) but it doesn't work. I put a file called Long_End.lnk in the windows directory, soft reset the device and still it doesn't map to that. Only displays the HTC 'quick list'.
I am not running TF3D.
Anyhelp ? To map to any program I choose ?
Thanks
So no buddy managed to map the End button long press to some other program than the options that the HTC's prg in the settings allow ?
I want to remap the End key to open Phone Weaver Profiles which is much more useful than what the HTC Long End Pressapp offers.
nik3r said:
Just for those who wonder, AEButton can remap everything (single, double, triple, long presses) on all keys except two: Long Green and Long Red.
You either need to disable Long End Key software or find some other way to hard map these.
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That's not the full story ....
on ex: HTC HD
there are buttons:
"Green Key", -> mapping possible but without Long Press
"Home Key" -> nothing possible !!!
"Back Key" -> not really mapable (mapping possible, but always send to wanted mapping ~backspace and jump back to Homescreen and then the mapped button will execute - little bit strange ..)
Longpress also doesn't work
"Red Key", -> mapping possible but without Long Press
tried with aebutton also (last version)
some additional ideas ?
cu camel
Proto732 said:
Start, settings, system tab, long press end key
if you don't see what you want there ... we might have to figure out how to disable the long press htc software
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HI!
I'm another one that tried everything to remap the long end key without that HTC app and no solutions.
What we really need is to know how to disable that app from the system.
Anyone help us!
Hi,
i look for it for a long time and i can't find it :
how to attribute a function to a button ?
In settings, there is no buttons available though there is 5 hardware buttons !!!
For exemple, i'd like to attribute task manager or task facade to the long press home button, is it possible ?
thanks
up...
nobody is interested in attributing hardware buttons ?
Yes I am interesting too
I used aebutton plus to assign MS Voice Command to long press windows button. That worked fine, although I haven't used it on any other buttons.
Well, the hardware buttons already have set functions. So assigning things to them would be a little bit complex within the settings. That's why they aren't there.
I imagine you would need to use a third party application, and even then you could only assign long presses to the keys.
Long press would be nice though
Pantaloonie, does everything run fine with aebutton and HD2?
Yes, it does what I want it to do, although as I said I only added long press windows key.
It was a little bit fiddly with aebp's small menus on the capacitive screen, but I got there after several attempts.
Now when I start the aebp program, I get an error message reading "Once you set AEBPlus to process Windows button you may also need to re-define following buttons also:"Button 1(Hold)", "OK Key"."
I haven't done as it says, and everything works perfectly.
Cool, thanks I might give it a spin then
Here's a guy who's tried AE Button Plus with HD2 pretty thoroughly it seems:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=603186
I just installed it and mapped the windows hard button with long press to task facade. It worked just fine, but it seems the button lost the original function which is to access the start menu on single tap. I dont mind it so much though, I might as well use the the soft start button in the upper left corner. The important thing is that multi tasking now works without having to go through the today screen.